CAG PSN Gamesharing #7 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

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Usuyami said:
Howdy boys!

Sorry for my continued absence for the past long while. Without going too much into it, my dad's dying so there's really not much time for video games. WIth that said, I'm currently setting up my PS4 and am eager to find out if gamesharing can continue next-gen (now current-gen). I know there's probably a small group of you working silently to figure out all the little details so someone PM me and get me in on the action.
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This is terrible, and Im so very sad and hope you are ok and that your father may feel some ease as well. Keep your head up. I have prayed for you and hope everyone has said a prayer as well and will keep you and your father/family in their thoughts. My mother's friend is also losing her father right now, and although i have problems with my dad, i couldn't imagine this, i wish you and your family the best, and if you need anything let me know!

 
Pravado said:
i made the lefora forum. it's still up but nobody uses it. like we still have gta 5 up there for rental and nobody has inquired about it. pointless to make a new library since all the active members are on that one. kinda sucks :\
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Oh yeah! I was trying to remember your name. Lefora did some massive update so you couldn't use your original log in password (a long code was emailed instead) I think that's why it unfortunately died down :(

 
I tried using the new GS library, but apparently the shares from it I wanted to use were sold off instead, but the posts were still there.

 
I feel like some of these are going to be a hard hitter, but looking for resells of the following. Dem fires express which are higher for mah needs:

Tales of Graces f  :hot:  :hot:  :hot:

Tales of Xillia  :hot:

Catherine   :hot:  :hot:

Splinter Cell: Blacklist  :hot:

The Last of Us  :hot:| :cold:

P.M me prices

 
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I'm going to start a Killzone Group.

Resell: Kerouac $30

Phantom $15 

Locked $15 (No trophies have to add your friends to GS account)

You guys know my stance on newbs and douche bags. So if you're not one of those, shoot me a pm to discuss.

 
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KuHLiiDE said:
I feel like some of these are going to be a hard hitter, but looking for resells of the following. Dem fires express which are higher for mah needs:

Tales of Graces f :hot: :hot: :hot:
Tales of Xillia :hot:
Catherine :hot: :hot:
Splinter Cell: Blacklist :hot:
The Last of Us :hot:| :cold:

P.M me prices
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I'm halfway through Xillia now, so if you haven't got a share of it before I'm finished with it, I'll let you have it :)
 
Pravado said:
i made the lefora forum. it's still up but nobody uses it. like we still have gta 5 up there for rental and nobody has inquired about it. pointless to make a new library since all the active members are on that one. kinda sucks :\
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Like Homer Simpson once said: "Kids, you tried and you failed...the lesson is...never try."

Seriously though, I thought it was cool that you made the effort and succeeded in creating a new library. Being off site didn't help, but the library was always something that everyone wanted to join and donate but few used.

 
I contacted amazon support and they are sending me a new bundle...

So I have a Cod ghosts resell, with the digital upgrade will I get a resell on ps4?

Thanks for the answers!

 
Injustice(ps4)

resell($30)- snakeybro

phantom($15) iquabal

locked phantom($15) (can not earn trophies or add friends!)-

Knack(ps4)

resell($30)-

phantom($15)- snakey

locked phanty ($15)-

 
Edit: Doesn't the locked slot also have to be online while playing?

akbeast17 said:
So I have a Cod ghosts resell, with the digital upgrade will I get a resell on ps4?
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Do you own both resells or just the one? If it is just the one, has the other owner given you their consent to upgrade it? Assuming they are okay with it, then yes, you would have a PS4 resell. If they haven't agreed to allow you to use the slot, then you can't take it, as it would be no different from taking the $10 reward and using it for yourself.

If you own both slots, then the simple answer is you'd have two PS3 resells and one PS4 resell. Note this may not work with all upgraded games, as AC4 has a different description, for example.

 
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PS3 shares-

Adventure Time(uk) out now!!

resales- $19

1.

2.

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phants- $9

1.snakey

2.clone

Stick it to the Man

r-$4

1.

2.

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p-$2.17

1.snakey

2.strange

 
@railborg thanks I only have one resell and the other resell is ok with me having the ps4 slot so it looks like I will have a ps4 resell will I be able to sell a phantom then or give it to a friend?
 
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akbeast17 said:
@railborg thanks I only have one resell and the other resell is ok with me having the ps4 slot so it looks like I will have a ps4 resell will I be able to sell a phantom then or give it to a friend?
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If the account has already been reset, you won't be able to phantom the PS4 slot.

 
So is everyone pricing locked and unlocked phantoms the same price?  I feel it would be real hard to get rid of locked phantoms when they are the same price as regular phantoms.

 
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PancakesAreLove said:
So is everyone pricing locked and unlocked phantoms the same price? I feel it would be real hard to get rid of locked phantoms when they are the same price as regular phantoms.
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i was just thinkin about that, locked would be like $10 and regular phantoms would be 15.

resell-$35

phantom-$15

ghost(locked phantom)-$10

 
I think that's the plan for now but it's an experiment really to see what the market is like for locked phantoms. If they don't sell at $15, adjustments will be necessary and the price will go down until we get a better idea and can form a true consensus.

 
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PancakesAreLove said:
So is everyone pricing locked and unlocked phantoms the same price? I feel it would be real hard to get rid of locked phantoms when they are the same price as regular phantoms.
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Yeah, that looks really weird

It should be more like $35-$15-$10

Reseller has it @$35

Phantom @$15

Locked @$10

So for the locked person, at least you can still get the game @1/6th the price

Phantom gets the 1/4th treatment (next gen bump!)

Reseller now is a little more 1/2 of total

Time share can be done too no?, can put the TS @$5 a week, I mean just as a starter, title gets older, TS price will get lower

 
Raiborg said:
Edit: Doesn't the locked slot also have to be online while playing?
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If you get disconnected it still works, even if you quit/close applicaions you can start again without being online

However, if you log out of the PS4 on that user and the log back in, you will have to connect to PSN again for it to work.

Amir just sent me this pm.
 
Also so far Ustream is the best for streaming, twitch not so much

I streamed earlier in the day, BF4 and Resogun, people were saying it was working really really well, maybe a stutter here or there, but they got the 60fps and 720p+ signal

You have to realize your connection pays a huge part in this, I have 150Mb from FiOS, so yeah...

I would be hella pissed if my shit was choppy/blocky while streaming

 
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GraveRobberX said:
Yeah, that looks really weird

It should be more like $35-$15-$10

Reseller has it @$35

Phantom @$15

Locked @$10

So for the locked person, at least you can still get the game @1/6th the price

Phantom gets the 1/4th treatment (next gen bump!)

Reseller now is a little more 1/2 of total

Time share can be done too no?, can put the TS @$5 a week, I mean just as a starter, title gets older, TS price will get lower
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Will all shares get to play on their main account?

 
PancakesAreLove said:
So a locked resell? Anyway that changes things but I wonder who in our community are interested in those slots, we should make a poll haha.
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When I was coming up with a pricing structure I figured the Locked slot should be the same price as the phantom because it can be resold. The target demographic are the members with no interest in trophies. You can always add your friends to the gs account.

 
Have some resells here

I can offer only one phantom of everything here except for account #1.

BUY ONE RESELL/PHANTOM, GET ONE FREE!


Account #1
Sonic Adventure DX
Sonic The Hedgehog 4 episodes 1&2
Four Pieces Of MK9 DLC
Pac-Man DX
38 PS3 Themes
Assassins creed embers
Assassins Creed Revelations +DLC
Assassins Creed
The Walking Dead Season 1 complete
Assassins Creed Brotherhood+ DLC
90 pieces of LBP 2 DLC (including level kits)
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition
Batman Arkham City+ All DLC
Elemental Monster Online Card Game


Account #2

Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit
Red Dead Redemption+All Major DLC Packs (undead, gold guns, horses u know)
FIFA 13
BF3+ BF3 Premium
Borderlands 2 + Captain Scarlet DLC



Account #3 (UK ACCOUNT)
All Black Ops 1 DLC
BF3 online pass
Assassins creed Brotherhood + DLC
God Of War II HD

PROTOTYPE
LittleBigPlanet™
inFamous


Account #4
Modern Combat: Domination
Battlefield: Bad Company™ 2
Dead Rising® 2 Off The Record (yes again lol)
REAL STEEL
Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas[PS2CLASSIC]
Street Fighter Alpha [PSONE CLASSIC]


Account #5
PES 14
The Last Of Us





PS4 Primary Slot:

Call Of Duty: Ghosts

PM me for pricing/Or a trade offer


Edit: I've decided to just use my PS+ from main and wait for more games for my Vita.
 
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PancakesAreLove said:
So a locked resell? Anyway that changes things but I wonder who in our community are interested in those slots, we should make a poll haha.
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There was a poll a short while back. Only 1 out of 30 voters was interested in the locked slot. I know Clone wouldn't have a problem and I saw someone else mention recently that they wouldn't have a problem either, but that's a whopping total of 3 people.

 
Raiborg said:
There was a poll a short while back. Only 1 out of 30 voters was interested in the locked slot. I know Clone wouldn't have a problem and I saw someone else mention recently that they wouldn't have a problem either, but that's a whopping total of 3 people.
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Well it's just the beginning so if there is no demand, it will eventually become cheaper until there is interest.

 
Raiborg said:
There was a poll a short while back. Only 1 out of 30 voters was interested in the locked slot. I know Clone wouldn't have a problem and I saw someone else mention recently that they wouldn't have a problem either, but that's a whopping total of 3 people.
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Well. Maybe we should just have a 2 person share.

Most members on GTZ think it should be $25/$35. What say ye?

 
Looking for a Need for Speed and a Killzone phantom slot for the PS4.  I assume it will be 15$ each, 30$ for both.  Please let me know if anyone wants to setup for those two.

 
So the way PS4 game sharing works at the moment is

The reseller has to pay 58% of the price

The phantom has to pay 25% of the price

The ghost will has to pay 17% of the price

If you break it down fairly by using %, but I think rather than adding the different amounts, the 35-15-10 rule looks real good

So now from my standing viewpoint on how PS4 GS works

The 3 people pay up, host gets game

The phantom goes first, makes it primary PS4, DL game

Then the Host/Reseller reset with account deactivation, and starts their process

The locked or ghost gets the info, can't have friends or earn trophies, but can enjoy the game until they sign out of the reseller account

If 2 people want to share just as a reseller/phantom it will go the $40-$20 route, 2/3rd by reseller, 1/3rd for phantom

(I'm just spit-balling here)

 
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GraveRobberX said:
So the way PS4 game sharing works at the moment is

The reseller has to pay 58% of the price

The phantom has to pay 25% of the price

The ghost will has to pay 17% of the price

If you break it down fairly by using %, but I think rather than adding the different amounts, the 35-25-10 rule looks real good

So now from my standing viewpoint on how PS4 GS works

The 3 people pay up, host gets game

The phantom goes first, makes it primary PS4, DL game

Then the Host/Reseller reset with account deactivation, and starts their process

The locked or ghost gets the info, can't have friends or earn trophies, but can enjoy the game until they sign out of the reseller account

If 2 people want to share just as a reseller/phantom it will go the $40-$20 route, 2/3rd by reseller, 1/3rd for phantom

(I'm just spit-balling here)
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$35 + $25 + $10 = $70 :)

Also I think a problem with $40 - $20 is that for resell it is much closer to the price you can get for physical (unless you live in some country where games are really expensive). Are there many American GSers who would actually pay $40 for resell?

Anyway you guys figure out some sort of guideline that works while Clyde and I enjoy our sweet, sweet 4-way ps3 gameshares.

 
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mythus said:
35-25-10 = 70$

If we're going by 58-25-17, shouldnt it be 34.80 - 15 - 10.20
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Whoops, lol my mistake

We can do the 20 cent differential, but I like whole numbers persay

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I know a $40 resell looks steep, but over time the value will drop, also if there are many resell accounts, a price war begins and price starts getting lower

I mean if you payed $40 and got back say $35-37, it's still worth it no?

 
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