Can anyone teach me the secret of the Pho Noodle Bowl?

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I only recently discovered the delicacy that is Pho Noodle Bowl, at Fresh Choice of all places...:lol:

Anyhow, I want to make this traditional soup at home.. anyone know how to make it? I was thinking of Googling but I figure that maybe some of you might have a killer recipe (perhaps a Vietnamese person on the site?)..

That stuff is gooooood! I'm actually just looking to make a simple version sans meat. Fresh jalapeno slices in it too!

I shall Google now and return to see if anyone can help.
 
for the soup base I think u can get like beef flavored cubes u jus throw into water,

then jus throw in all your ingredients.

I think....
 
[quote name='JEKKI']for the soup base I think u can get like beef flavored cubes u jus throw into water,

then jus throw in all your ingredients.

I think....[/quote]

Jekki, OT, is that your kid? Painfully cute.

Back to the topic on hand: whose got the downlow on the bowl? I've been looking online and there are so many varieties, with oxtails and bamboo etc etc... This is a shot in the dark but I'm looking for one that is similar to Fresh Choice's take on it (god this sounds pathetically caucasian ;) )...

Basically a good clean beef broth with seasonings... i think they had jalapenos, sciracca (sp?) sauce, basil, bean sprouts for toppings... what kind of noodles to get? is there fish sauce in it? not sure... assist?
 
Instead of using the soup cubes, you can boil beef bones. That is how my mom makes it. It takes some times, but the flavor is great.

http://www.vietworldkitchen.com/bookshelf/articles/pho_SJM.htm

Something like this I guess:
Making Pho at Home

By Andrea Q. Nguyen
Special to the Mercury News

It's convenient and fun to eat pho out, but nothing beats a homemade bowl.
What makes the homemade version dac biet (special) is the love and care put into the broth -- the cornerstone of pho. Multidimensional in fragrance and flavor, homemade broth will beat out those prepared in restaurants any day.


I've learned to make pho from listening to my mom and other women, reading cookbooks in Vietnamese and English, and emptying many bowls. Here are some insights:


1. Start with good beef bones: Avoid neck bones. Look for knuckle bones and leg bones that contain marrow. At Asian markets, you'll find beef bones cut and bagged in the refrigerated section. Vietnamese markets will sometimes have the leg bones at the butcher counter. You can specify how you want them sawed; ask for two- to three-inch sections.


From eating pho in Vietnam and observing how the cows there live low-key lives grazing in the countryside, I was inspired to make pho broth from the fragrant bones of grass-fed and natural beef. The experiments have consistently yielded amazing results, with the essence of beef captured every time. To find the bones, ask a butcher who breaks down large beef carcass sections into small retail cuts. [Also check these sites for sources for natural, organic or grass-fed beef: Eatwellguide.org, Localharvest.org, Eatwild.com]

2. Aim for a clear broth: This is achieved by parboiling and rinsing the bones, which greatly reduces the amount of residue in the broth. You may think you're pouring essential flavors down the drain, but you're not. The bones exude their essence during the three-hour gentle simmer. Cooking at a low heat also helps produce clear broth.


3. Char the onion and ginger: It imparts a wonderful brown color and deepens the overall flavors.


4. Leave some fat: Despite all the talk about obesity in the United States, I like some shiny globules of fat floating in the broth. They lend a richness that underscores pho's beefiness.


5. Serve it hot: To cook the raw beef and warm the cooked beef and noodles, the broth must be boiling when it's ladled into the bowl. But hot pho shouldn't be left to sit in the bowl. The noodles will absorb too much broth.


Posted Wed, June 9, 2004, copyright San Jose Mercury News
 
So the recipe mentioned above calls for rice stick noodles... I'm having a hard time visualizing the ones in the Pho that I enjoyed. Are they the clear ones? I *think* the noodles they used at Fresh Choice were the thick white noodles that are almost (slightly) rubbery, in a good waym and white.
 
My mom starts off by boiling a whole chicken and using the chicken broth as a base for the soup. Something like that. I like beef based broth better...

Soak the noodles in cold water for a little while before you cook them. When you cook the noodles, it's best to put them in a strainer, then dip it in boiling water for a few seconds (10-ish, 20-ish?), then take it back out. Make sure not too keep it under water for too long, they get soggy pretty fast.

The noodles can be bought at a local Asian mart. They come in little clear packages. I think we get the kind with some guy in a chef's hat on it..he might be holding a plate of fish.

My parents like bean sprouts, chicken meat, and these pork meatballs or something like that as toppings. We also put in this stuff...I don't know what Americans would call it, but my mom fries garlic (I think) until it's brown and then keeps it in the jar for soups and stuff. We just take a small spoonful and put it in the soup. It adds a lot of flavor.

Edit: the rice noodles we use aren't really clear at all. Right now, my family has taken a liking to these square rice noodles that roll up when you cook them. They start out semi-translucent, but they turn white and kinda rubbery. Same for the other noodles. Just make sure the noodles aren't too skinny at the store.
 
[quote name='jmcc']Sounds pretty straightforward: http://www.mediterrasian.com/delicious_recipes_pho_bo.htm

edit: except for five-spice powder, though you can make your own: http://chinesefood.about.com/cs/sauces/ht/fivespicepowder.htm[/quote]

I tried that recipie (minus bean sprouts, because I hate them), and it's pretty fucking good. Doesn't take too long either.

If you live on the West Coast, 5 spice powder shouldn't be too hard to find. I walked into my supermarket and picked a bottle right up.
 
::drools:: ah good to see we have some pho lovers here. if I had to eat one food for the rest of my life, it would have to be pho. Beef pho, only way to go. And boilin beef bones is definitely the way to go, my mom puts in quite a bit of fish sauce too. She makes the best pho ever =DDD ah and top it off with a bunch of fresh diced cilantro.
 
man I aint got any kids!

Im a kid as it is!

me & my homegirl always talk crap on girls we kno younger than us getting pregnant

anyway, my post was hella insightful! fool!

the soup should cook everything u put in it, so all u needa do is make the soup.

the guy who said to use beef bones instead of a stock has a very good idea too (or his mom does)
 
bread's done
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