Is Xenogears part of the Xenosaga?
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[quote name='redgopher']So I've heard that Xenogears and Xenosaga are kind of based on the same universe[/quote]
You've heard wrong. Although there are some parallels between Xenogears and Xenosaga, XS and XG are not within the same series. XG was supposedly chapter 5 of a 6 chapter series, and XS is chapter 1 of a different 6 chapter series. That said, you'll see people who look like characters in XG in XS (such as Nephilim and Elly), but, aside from a passing resemblance, there's no real connection. Play them in any order. I'd recommend Xenosaga first.
You've heard wrong. Although there are some parallels between Xenogears and Xenosaga, XS and XG are not within the same series. XG was supposedly chapter 5 of a 6 chapter series, and XS is chapter 1 of a different 6 chapter series. That said, you'll see people who look like characters in XG in XS (such as Nephilim and Elly), but, aside from a passing resemblance, there's no real connection. Play them in any order. I'd recommend Xenosaga first.
[quote name='redgopher']I think XG was only one part, but then again, we're Americans... what do we know? That chick with the cross necklace, is it the same character as the one in XG? Try not to spoil anything for me if you tell me.[/quote]
Xenogears was one part of an entirely different world/timeline/story arch from Xenosaga. At least, thats what developer Monolith has gone on the record as saying.
The chick with the cross necklace is not the same character. Her name is Elly in XG and Nephilim in XS. Similarly, they have a character that looks like Fei later on in XS, and Citan and Shion share the same last name...
There are a few other similarities, but I don't recall what they are.
Xenogears was one part of an entirely different world/timeline/story arch from Xenosaga. At least, thats what developer Monolith has gone on the record as saying.
The chick with the cross necklace is not the same character. Her name is Elly in XG and Nephilim in XS. Similarly, they have a character that looks like Fei later on in XS, and Citan and Shion share the same last name...
There are a few other similarities, but I don't recall what they are.
Xenogears actually part of Xenosaga?
Xenogears is actually the fifth installment of a series of six, but no Xenogears games were made before this one. Square declined to ever develop a sequel/prequel. Some of the original developers, however, have left and created a company called Monolith Soft, where they are developing a prequel called Xenosaga: Episode I The Will to Power. This was released by Namco in Japan in February 2002 for the Playstation 2. Eventually, they hope to bring out the entire six part series of games
Xenogears is actually the fifth installment of a series of six, but no Xenogears games were made before this one. Square declined to ever develop a sequel/prequel. Some of the original developers, however, have left and created a company called Monolith Soft, where they are developing a prequel called Xenosaga: Episode I The Will to Power. This was released by Namco in Japan in February 2002 for the Playstation 2. Eventually, they hope to bring out the entire six part series of games
Ha. You beat me to it. From what I just read (what I posted) it looks like Xenogears is part five of the XS story? God this is an odd way to develop games... Then again, Star Wars worked out pretty well doing it like that. Except for the new ones.
I'm going to change the topic to get more people in here....
I'm going to change the topic to get more people in here....
From what I've read, which is kind of outdated (around 2001 or so) I think Square Enix still owns Xenogears. Which could be either a good thing or a bad thing... if XG is the 5th episode of XS, it would be nice to remake it because from what I've heard, it seems Monolith is just trying to start over from scratch with the whole Xeno- plot. It could be a good thing meaning XG will fit in just fine or not fit in at all (read: start over). Or they might just let it be, make all six games and just say Xenogears is kind of a parallel universe type thing. I don't know. I'm confused. It's a shame I can't email anyone at Monolith that actually speaks english.
Both are great games, I think Xenogears is probably the best story yet in a videogame. Xenogears is a more self-contained story, while Xenosaga Episode I kinda leaves you hanging. Since Xenosaga Episode II won't be out til next year, I say play Xenogears first and then Xenosaga, that way the wait for Episode II isn't so long 
[quote name='redgopher']From what I just read (what I posted) it looks like Xenogears is part five of the XS story?.[/quote]
No, Xenosaga and Xenogears are unrelated. Xenogears is on a different story arch from Xenosaga. So, when and if a Xenosaga Ep. 5 comes out, it would be different than Xenogears. Not to say they wouldn't be similar, but they would not be the same game because Xenogears is not from the same series, but from a different series based on the same idealogical concepts.
[quote name='RPGFan']Takahashi-san made it evident that Xenosaga is not directly related to Xenogears[/quote]
http://www.rpgfan.com/previews/xenosaga_ep_one/xenosaga-1.html
[quote name='RPGFan']When Takahashi and co. left Square Soft to form Monolith Software, their dream of bringing their story to fruition did not die. Monolith's plan was to take the heart of Perfect Works and sculpt six adventures that would capture the imaginations of gamers worldwide. Fans of Xenogears have been eagerly awaiting the resurrection of their beloved legend, but may be confused at what has truly risen. Xenosaga, in its entirety, will be based on themes central to Perfect Works, but will not be a retelling of the original story.[/quote]
http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/xenosaga/Xenosaga-1.html
No, Xenosaga and Xenogears are unrelated. Xenogears is on a different story arch from Xenosaga. So, when and if a Xenosaga Ep. 5 comes out, it would be different than Xenogears. Not to say they wouldn't be similar, but they would not be the same game because Xenogears is not from the same series, but from a different series based on the same idealogical concepts.
[quote name='RPGFan']Takahashi-san made it evident that Xenosaga is not directly related to Xenogears[/quote]
http://www.rpgfan.com/previews/xenosaga_ep_one/xenosaga-1.html
[quote name='RPGFan']When Takahashi and co. left Square Soft to form Monolith Software, their dream of bringing their story to fruition did not die. Monolith's plan was to take the heart of Perfect Works and sculpt six adventures that would capture the imaginations of gamers worldwide. Fans of Xenogears have been eagerly awaiting the resurrection of their beloved legend, but may be confused at what has truly risen. Xenosaga, in its entirety, will be based on themes central to Perfect Works, but will not be a retelling of the original story.[/quote]
http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/xenosaga/Xenosaga-1.html
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I was thinking about how cool it would be if they did each Episode of the Xenosaga-saga in different art styles. For example, their already changing the style for episode 2, so what if Ep. 3 was cel shaded or something equally cool? Then change it up for four! That would rule.
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[quote name='Moxio']I'm pretty sure Xenogears and Xenosaga aren't related. I mean, they're made by different companies. Unless Square made a deal with Namco that I've never heard of, I can assume they're totally apart.[/quote]
Just different publishers, but I always thought both games were made from the same group or the majority of the people.
Just different publishers, but I always thought both games were made from the same group or the majority of the people.
Xenogears is a better piece of art, for one.
Not only is Xenogears self contained while being a part of a greater whole, the entire tale is much more refined as of yet.
Xenosaga's an incomplete part of a whole and will likely not bear as much fruit as it possibly could. Takahashi has lost his mind as far as I'm concerned.
Play the one and only: Xenogears. Xenosaga's nice, but it'll never top Xenogears.
Not only is Xenogears self contained while being a part of a greater whole, the entire tale is much more refined as of yet.
Xenosaga's an incomplete part of a whole and will likely not bear as much fruit as it possibly could. Takahashi has lost his mind as far as I'm concerned.
Play the one and only: Xenogears. Xenosaga's nice, but it'll never top Xenogears.
[quote name='Moxio']I'm pretty sure Xenogears and Xenosaga aren't related. I mean, they're made by different companies. Unless Square made a deal with Namco that I've never heard of, I can assume they're totally apart.[/quote]
Many of the same developers, the director.. all there.
Many of the same developers, the director.. all there.
I'd suggest playing Xenogears first regardless of how the story plays out. Starting off with a PS2 game then following that with a PS1 game is going to feel like you're going backwards regardless of the story. As a result you may appreciate Xenogears properly when XenoSaga presents such a flashier show.
Look at it this way, even though they come in that order chronologically, would you really want to watch the Star Wars series in the order of the Chapter numbers or would you start with the original three films and try to appreciate what was done with the limits of visualization technology for that era?
Look at it this way, even though they come in that order chronologically, would you really want to watch the Star Wars series in the order of the Chapter numbers or would you start with the original three films and try to appreciate what was done with the limits of visualization technology for that era?
[quote name='redgopher']This is the email I got from Namco:
response was
Granted, this response is from Namco and not Monolith, so it could be completely wrong. And it probably is. But I just thought I'd share the Namco perspective.[/quote][/quote]
If they do own the rights to the game, or are going to buy the rights to it, I wonder how much it would cost. I doubt Squre Enix would even be willing to sell the rights.
response was
Granted, this response is from Namco and not Monolith, so it could be completely wrong. And it probably is. But I just thought I'd share the Namco perspective.[/quote][/quote]
If they do own the rights to the game, or are going to buy the rights to it, I wonder how much it would cost. I doubt Squre Enix would even be willing to sell the rights.
[quote name='zewone'][quote name='Mr. Anderson']I was thinking about how cool it would be if they did each Episode of the Xenosaga-saga in different art styles. For example, their already changing the style for episode 2, so what if Ep. 3 was cel shaded or something equally cool? Then change it up for four! That would rule.[/quote]
that would be cool if it was cel-shaded. than it would look more like Xenogears.[/quote]
I'd like to see the next xenosaga with 3d environments and super detailed 2d sprites. I'm talking Guilty Gear level detail with insane amounts of animation...that would be the shiznitty-nittle.
Sorry, but I'm a total whore for sprite based characters...they truely convey the artist's designs, unlike alot of 3d character models -but that's just me.
that would be cool if it was cel-shaded. than it would look more like Xenogears.[/quote]
I'd like to see the next xenosaga with 3d environments and super detailed 2d sprites. I'm talking Guilty Gear level detail with insane amounts of animation...that would be the shiznitty-nittle.
Sorry, but I'm a total whore for sprite based characters...they truely convey the artist's designs, unlike alot of 3d character models -but that's just me.
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Yes and its a very good game as well.
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