Sly Cooper Collection for PS3. Playable in HD and in 3D.

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http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/14/sly-cooper-collection-coming-to-ps3-in-hd-and-3d/

The Sly Cooper Collection will be revealed tomorrow as part of the Sony press conference. A blurry image on 1UP, taken at the as-yet-unopened PlayStation booth, not only announces the title but also touts 3D support as one of its key features. An independent source confirmed to Joystiq that Sly Cooper Collection is very much a real thing, and that other PS2 HD remixes are likely to be seen during the show.

It seems like we can cross at least one box off our bingo card.
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Have not played Sly Cooper yet, so this is great!
 
[quote name='javeryh']It's a great series but what's with all the PS2 -> PS3 ports?[/QUOTE]
"All the..."? This is only the second one. Besides, I'm all for it. I've never played this or the God of War games (before the collection was released), so it gives me an incentive to play these games. I hope Jak and Ratchet collections are on the way too.
 
Isn't there an ICO/Shadow of the Colossus coming too? I'm not opposed to it but I do think it is kind of lame.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']"All the..."? This is only the second one. Besides, I'm all for it. I've never played this or the God of War games (before the collection was released), so it gives me an incentive to play these games. I hope Jak and Ratchet collections are on the way too.[/QUOTE]

yep i can see jak and ratchet and even mgs coming to a collection near you.....still wish theyd hurry up with the ico/sotc collection or just put those 2 games in a se of the last guardian. actually wasnt the first sly cooper a game with 3d already in it?
 
[quote name='javeryh']Isn't there an ICO/Shadow of the Colossus coming too? I'm not opposed to it but I do think it is kind of lame.[/QUOTE]

Been talked about nothing official but if so:drool:
 
[quote name='javeryh']It's a great series but what's with all the PS2 -> PS3 ports?[/QUOTE]

its a way to get people to buy ps2 game who either didnt have a ps2 and would like to play some of the consoles classic series and a way to get us old sony gamers to buy what we had once and got rid of. maybe too theyre having trouble implementing ps2 games onto psn.
 
This is why the PS3 isn't backwards compatible with PS2 games anymore, to make room for games like this. I'm not opposed to these type of games when they get the up-res treatment.
 
I'm all for these. Between HD, 3D, and trophy support, it's great for those who missed out, and I for one am really hoping to see a SOCOM collection announced tomorrow. Doubtful, but it would definitely be a day 1 pickup for me.
 
[quote name='lokizz']yep i can see jak and ratchet and even mgs coming to a collection near you.....still wish theyd hurry up with the ico/sotc collection or just put those 2 games in a se of the last guardian. actually wasnt the first sly cooper a game with 3d already in it?[/QUOTE]
No, the 3rd one had some parts with anaglyph 3D.
 
I'll be honest, I'd love a Sly Cooper collection if it means Sly Cooper 4 is on the way. Sly 2 was hands-down the best platformer on the PS2. I don't want to buy any collection, but I do want a new entry in the franchise. Might not come that soon, though, with Sucker Punch focused on inFamous 2...
 
Want. Thank you for posting this OP.

I have all the ps2 games, and was well on my way into the first one when my beloved 60 gig PS3 died. Now I can get back into this series again!
 
It also said other ps2 HD remixes will be announced at the show...

Kingdom hearts/ICO(never played, wanna try it) collections PLEASE! I will go crazy over those.

Anyway, Never played sly cooper so looks like im getting this!
 
[quote name='pjb16']Same here, so I'm excited.[/QUOTE]
Ditto! XD I can't even play my Sly 1 to 3 ps2 game on my PS3 80GB model because it doesn't have a backward compatibility. Now, I'm happy to see good news about the Sly cooper collection putting into PSN as digital download.
 
I'm totally stoked and happy Sony is pushing foward with the ps2 collections on the ps3. It was such easy money to do it with GoW. Should be a no brainer for other titles to get a similar release since the ps2 had a very expansive library.

Sly Cooper and Gran Turismo 3 were the very first games I played on my ps2 since they were in a bundle that I got at sams club.

Keep up the good work Sony! First day purchase!!
 
well the GOW collection came out right before GOW3 came out. ico/sotc collection might come out right before the last guardian comes out... SSSSOOOOOO sly cooper collection right before sly cooper 4 comes out?!?! i can dream.
 
wish theyd do a neogeo game collection with online play. man i miss the old days of samurai showdown back when arcades were still relevant.
 
[quote name='lokizz']wish theyd do a neogeo game collection with online play. man i miss the old days of samurai showdown back when arcades were still relevant.[/QUOTE]
Of course, we all really miss our old classic games and we would wait to see happens. :D
 
Im hoping this will be a nice upgrade. I tried to play the original, but the visuals (camera movement?) got me nauseous.

Personally, I like the idea of these collections. There are a lot of established franchises on Playstation, which I have never touched because I missed the early games. These provide a great value and a good way to get into series which are now showing up on PS3.
 
[quote name='MillerTime2523']Any word on other collections?[/QUOTE]
None yet, just finished watching the conference and that is the only one. I can definitely see more in the future though. Easy money.
 
The PS2 had such great exclusives that I think it's going to be great to see some of them remastered in HD. I've only played SC1, so the SC collection might be something I actually get.
 
sly 1 was great, 2 better, 3 a stepback but still above average. The carmelita voice was unfortunate.
But Kevin Miller is great, more games need to use his narration.
 
[quote name='lokizz']wish theyd do a neogeo game collection with online play. man i miss the old days of samurai showdown back when arcades were still relevant.[/QUOTE]
They don't do that for their XBLA games, so they won't do an HD collection.
 
Sooo... Should I beat my copy of SC1 that I haven't touched in a million years, or just forget I own it?
 
Can't wait for this. Some of you may be upset to find out it'll be a full priced game, but it actually makes sense considering it's 3 games, not 2 like the GOW Collection.
 
How does it make sense for it to be a full price game? You could get all 3 for £30, that's half of £60 (maths is fun) off Amazon. No doubt cheaper somewhere else if you could find them. I don't mind HD collections (hell I love them) but at £60 this is too much. I'll be waiting for the more than likely price drop.
 
[quote name='Goemar']How does it make sense for it to be a full price game? You could get all 3 for £30, that's half of £60 (maths is fun) off Amazon. No doubt cheaper somewhere else if you could find them. I don't mind HD collections (hell I love them) but at £60 this is too much. I'll be waiting for the more than likely price drop.[/QUOTE]

God of War Collection came out for $39.99 for two games. That's $20 a piece.

This has 3 games. Since it's getting the same treatment as the GOW collection then 3 x $20 = $60 .... maths is fun indeed.........

You can make the same argument about getting God of War 1 and 2 on the PS2 for cheaper but does that mean the PS3 version was a bad value at $40? Absolutely not. So tell me why we should expect them to sell a 3 game set for the same exact price. 3 games that each probably have more gameplay than each GOW title, are remastered in HD, and one comes in 3D, Plus possible Move support.
 
The God of War collection here is £17. God of War 1 and 2 are about £10 each (in a lot of cases a bit more). Your paying less for the HD version than the original games.
 
What does that matter? We have to discuss this in terms of retail pricing, not current pricing (affected by price drops and retailer prices). The GOW collection came out for $40US (I don't know about GBP). it made greatest hits a few months later but that still doesn't change the fact that it came out for that price.
 
I'm talking US figures obviously. I don't know how much EU/UK prices vary on avg. compared to US pricing.

At £24.99 (the actual retail) that's $37US. So that's a $3 difference from the US price. Apply that to the Sly collection and you get £39. Where does the argument stand now? I have no idea why you felt you could apply the US amount I mentioned above directly into pounds. Is any PS3 game sold for £60 there? I'm looking on Amazon UK and I don't see any
 
My point isn't comparing prices across regions though PS3 games in stores tend to be at £40.
It's simply that these are older games, so you should be paying less for them.

You can pick up all 3 Sly games for $23. $30 seems like a fair price to pay for them to be HD. But double the amount just fot a HD face-lift and maybe some camera improvement? No thanks. Sony just knows big Sly fans will grab this on day one.
 
[quote name='AvidWriter']Greed.[/QUOTE]

Demand.

If it were merely greed we'd see way more than 2 franchises being remastered in the 4 years the PS3 was released. If you visit various gaming forums like I do you'll always see people asking for PS3 revamps of their fav. franchises. Is it an easier cash-in for Sony? No doubt, but you can't ignore the demand either.
 
Such a big demand for PS2 games that they removed the ability to play them on the PS3? Sounds like greed to me. And don't say it was to make the PS3 cheaper as in the UK it was software emulating the PS2, not physical hardware.
 
Actually no PS3 hardware had 100% software BC, look it up. It was a stupid decision to remove BC nontheless but their reasoning was to push the sales of PS3 games as they felt that demand for PS2 games was too high. It was shortsighted logic. Again, I don't disagree that Sony is cashing in on these PS2 remakes, but to deny demand for them is just silly. Both factors are playing a role in these remakes.
 
Push sales of PS3 games? You have to really really love Sony for that reason to work for you. Seriously. Plus, I never said the PS3 had full backwards compatibility I said that with the JAP and US releases it was (apparently) hardware (thus physical parts that could raise the cost of the PS3) and not pure software as it is in the UK model.
And yes there is demand, there's always demand for collections and things, doesn't mean they have to screw the fans over by charging them full whack for it.
 
I've never played the Sly games (I'm guessing a lot of other people haven't either) so it seems like a really good deal (if it's $40, which I assume it will be). But I guess I'll wait and see what the Trophy list is like.
 
Your letting a trophy list decide whether you buy a game or not? Wow... that's crazy.
But well, it has 3 Platinum trophies, so I guess that's a must buy for you.
 
[quote name='Goemar']Push sales of PS3 games? You have to really really love Sony for that reason to work for you. Seriously. Plus, I never said the PS3 had full backwards compatibility I said that with the JAP and US releases it was (apparently) hardware (thus physical parts that could raise the cost of the PS3) and not pure software as it is in the UK model.
And yes there is demand, there's always demand for collections and things, doesn't mean they have to screw the fans over by charging them full whack for it.[/QUOTE]

Dude, that's not my reason. That's what I recall Kotaku or some media outlet saying Sony mentioned as their reason for removing it years back. I never said I agreed with either, did I? In fact I said it was backwards logic. And what is this "pure software" PS2 BC that you're referring to. Do you not grasp the fact that no PS3 had pure software PS2 or was I not clear enough last time? ALL PS3's including those in the UK had at least some hardware inside that was needed for PS2 BC. I told you to look it up before, but apparently you don't need facts.

Just to make sure you know I'm not making this shit up:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/spin/jack-tretton-says-dropping-bc-wasnt-for-cost-measures-312628.php

The feature-gimped PlayStation 3 with a 40 GB hard drive is coming to North America at a reduced price, but without the ability to play PlayStation 2 games. If you thought Sony was removing the PS2 guts out of the system, saving them gobs of cash and passing the savings on to you, late adopters, maybe you should think again. According to the Wall Street Journal's paraphrasing of SCEA boss Jack Tretton, the removal of PS2 backward compatibility and other components isn't "dramatically reducing Sony's cost of manufacturing" on Sony's behemoth console. Instead, the handicapping of the PS3 was part of an effort to "encourage buyers of the entry-level PlayStation 3 to purchase more games designed specifically for the new system." If only there were some other ways of doing that outside of ripping out the PS3's ability to play PS2 games better than an actual PS2 in so many cases.
God, I just can't think of any. Obviously having better PS3 software won't work. Nor would working more closely with third parties to help them ship their PS3 ports of Xbox 360 titles day and date, feature for feature. I'll admit... I'm stumped!
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http://kotaku.com/308467/sony-could-run-bc-on-40gb-ps3s-they-just-dont-want-to
PS2
On the other hand, backwards compatibility for PS2 titles is largely made possible through the use of actual semiconductors, supported by the PS3 system software. The 20GB and 60GB PS3 models launched in Japan and the USA were equipped with both the PS2 Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesiser chips and we could therefore guarantee over 90% backwards compatibility for PS2 titles.
The 60GB model launched in Europe was a new model (shared with the 80GB model launched subsequently in USA) which contains only a modified version of the Graphics Synthesiser chip from the PS2 and not the Emotion Engine chip. The European launch model therefore used a combination of software and the modified version of the PS2 Graphics Synthesiser chip to deliver backwards compatibility for PS2 titles. As a result the percentage of backwards compatible PS2 titles was slightly reduced.
The 40GB model, to be launched in Europe on 10th October, is a new model and is not equipped with any of the semi conductors from the PS2, and backwards compatibility would therefore have to be achieved by software emulation alone. The sheer numbers of PS2 titles available, together with the increased complexity of using a software only solution for each and every title means that to ensure accurate software emulation for the majority would be technically challenging, time consuming and costly. As we have mentioned on several occasions, our engineering resources are now focused on developing new and innovative features and services for the PS3 and, as a result the 40GB model does not have backwards compatibility with PS2 titles.
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Wow no need to go all qoute happy, calm down. My point is if Sony cared about demand more than being greedy the PS3 would be able to play PS2 games. That is all.
 
seems only sly 3 will have 3d. Seeing as how it came with 3d glasses originally, and only certain portions of the game were in 3d (some laser beams among other forgettable stuff), sly collection will disappoint people expecting a 3d experience.
 
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