Xbox One Console Thread (Console is currently in stock as of 12/3 at Amazon)

[Neo]

Yeah, let's blame the hardware, not the lazy, piece of **** developer that is using the same engine for over a decade for the garbage Call of Duty games.

Also don't forget, this is Sony we're dealing with.  They're going to play dirty and spread the FUD like no one else can.  They bullied GameStops into zero support for the Dreamcast if they wanted any PS2 shipments and in 2005 when they had nothing to show for themselves all they did was sit and try to smear the Xbox 360 through various ways.  I ran a blog/website back then and documented all of Sony's garbage and with all the crap they were spewing it was basically a full-time job keeping up with it all.

Then the PS3 came out, performed terribly, and it was so pathetic that it stopped being funny.

Seems like a new generation of gamers have to feel that burn from Sony before they wise up again, but it'll happen.  It becomes clearer each day that Sony rushed this console and it's nothing more than a beefed up PS3.  No innovation, nothing that changes (besides resolutions...how exciting).

Remember when Sony ripped on Achievements and Friends Lists and said they specifically would never do Achievements?  Remember how they copied everything?  Look for another mimicking of Microsoft once these consoles come out and people realize Sony, like Infinity Ward and Call of Duty, is the same old shit and they feel like actually getting a fresh experience for their money.

 

[TimboSliceGB]

COD Ghosts won't run at 1080p on Xbox One (maybe it will be 900p like Ryse or just old-gen 720p), but it will run at 1080p on PS4... looks like multi-platform games will look substantially worse on Xbox One... I'm debating cancelling my pre-order at Fry's now... but I don't think I will be able to pre-order a PS4 anywhere .

Titanfall will be probably 720p... maybe I will play it on PC, because a PS4 version hasn't been announced it yet.

In the current-gen I have always played COD on 360 due to the better online experience and pad... but I'm not sure that will be enough to keep me as an Xbox One player

Source:

www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/10/23/call-of-duty-ghosts-and-titanfall-to-run-at-720p-on-xbox-one/comment-page-2/

have you seen the ps4 version of ghost it looks like garbage and not 1080 p lol plus your link don't even work goes to first page of this forum. plus that's a playstaion fanboy website if you use a website like that for xbox one news source you are not really giving a legit source funny thing is the guy that started the rumor on gaf had a mod close it down after a day and have not seen a post from him on that site since just saying.

 

[Sinfulfate]

COD Ghosts won't run at 1080p on Xbox One (maybe it will be 900p like Ryse or just old-gen 720p), but it will run at 1080p on PS4... looks like multi-platform games will look substantially worse on Xbox One... I'm debating cancelling my pre-order at Fry's now... but I don't think I will be able to pre-order a PS4 anywhere .

Titanfall will be probably 720p... maybe I will play it on PC, because a PS4 version hasn't been announced it yet.

In the current-gen I have always played COD on 360 due to the better online experience and pad... but I'm not sure that will be enough to keep me as an Xbox One player

Source:

www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/10/23/call-of-duty-ghosts-and-titanfall-to-run-at-720p-on-xbox-one/comment-page-2/

That's not true. Running and rendering resolution aren't the same thing. Every Call of Duty game runs in 1080p on xbox 360 and Ghost will run in 1080p on Xbox One. It might not be rendered in 1080p on Xbox One but that wont make it look substantially worst then PS4.

 

[TimboSliceGB]

people making giant deal out of this and saying x1 sucks (if it's true ) just shows the way the gaming world has changed to care about what a game looks like then how it plays. call of duty ghost is the same call of duty it has been since mw2 don't let a so called next gen engine fool you it's the same dang game if it can run at 1080 p on 360 no way it's not 1080 p on x 1

 

[PAULINK]

people making giant deal out of this and saying x1 sucks (if it's true ) just shows the way the gaming world has changed to care about what a game looks like then how it plays. call of duty ghost is the same call of duty it has been since mw2 don't let a so called next gen engine fool you it's the same dang game if it can run at 1080 p on 360 no way it's not 1080 p on x 1

None of the Call of Duty games run native 1080p on the 360 (or ps3 for that matter).

 

[tbassett]

I've vowed to not argue with any sony fanboys at this point.  I'm not sure why they feel the need to be so militant in Sony's camp.  M$'s only mistake was going first at E3.  All the shit they've dealt with is b/c they went first at E3.  Sony was going down the same road with DRM until they saw their opening and took it.  I'll give them credit for that, but other than that, they are bringing nothing but a slightly lower price tag and some indie games this generation.  They will slowly try to catch up to what XBox Live is now.

Neo I really am on the same page you are on.  I loved the Dreamcast and will never forget all the shit Sony did to take out the competition.  The Dreamcast was the last gamers console, it did one thing: play games.  Sony has been riding the wave of the PS1 for a long time now.  The PS3 debacle was well deserved.  I have all of Sony's console and I will play them for the exclusives but that is the only support they get from me.  Nintendo and Microsoft are the innovators at this point.  Sony copies as much as they can.

And to the goofball posting that Titanfall is going to run at 720P what in the world are you smoking?  Plus your link goes to some other thread here on CAG.  Have fun playing Killzone in a couple weeks.  Killer app!!!

 

[Central Scrutinizer]

Source:

www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/10/23/call-of-duty-ghosts-and-titanfall-to-run-at-720p-on-xbox-one/comment-page-2/

That link loops back to the first page of this thread.

Just buzzed by tsa, and there's no article like this up.

It's a hot rumor that's being promoted by SonyGAF and heavily echoed through some other sites, but nothing firm has been announced yet.

I am beginning to wonder if these rumors are being fostered by people who can't get XBOs on launch day because they waited too long, and are hoping to incite mass cancellations so they can get back into line. Same with the PS4 overheating rumors.

 

[TimboSliceGB]

bf4 runs close to 900 p on x1 and close to that on ps4 both systems don't run bf4 at 1080p. BF4 is a more high demanding game then cod will ever be and to think ghost is only running at 720 p is just nonsense lol same couldbe said about the rumor about titanfall. titanfall looks just like the cod engine and not up to par with bf4 also.

 

[cdrw123]

This has become a console war thread. I personally don't care what console you buy, as long as you have fun stick with it. Why do you care what anyone else likes and why must you try to change others views? Neither Microsoft nor Sony pay you, you pay them. Enjoy the consoles for games, movies, etc. they are made for entertainment. Doesn't matter which one you prefer as long as you like it.

 

[Cindaddy]

This has become a console war thread. I personally don't care what console you buy, as long as you have fun stick with it. Why do you care what anyone else likes and why must you try to change others views? Neither Microsoft nor Sony pay you, you pay them. Enjoy the consoles for games, movies, etc. they are made for entertainment. Doesn't matter which one you prefer as long as you like it.

Agreed. It's about the games.

bf4 runs close to 900 p on x1 and close to that on ps4 both systems don't run bf4 at 1080p. BF4 is a more high demanding game then cod will ever be and to think ghost is only running at 720 p is just nonsense lol same couldbe said about the rumor about titanfall. titanfall looks just like the cod engine and not up to par with bf4 also.

BF 4 runs native 1080p on PS4. Not jumping in on the debate as I think XB1 will do fine, but that statement isn't accurate. http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2131523/call_of_duty_ghosts_battlefield_4_1080p_native_on_ps4.html

 

[grumpier]

Yeah, let's blame the hardware, not the lazy, piece of **** developer that is using the same engine for over a decade for the garbage Call of Duty games.

Also don't forget, this is Sony we're dealing with. They're going to play dirty and spread the FUD like no one else can. They bullied GameStops into zero support for the Dreamcast if they wanted any PS2 shipments and in 2005 when they had nothing to show for themselves all they did was sit and try to smear the Xbox 360 through various ways. I ran a blog/website back then and documented all of Sony's garbage and with all the crap they were spewing it was basically a full-time job keeping up with it all.

Then the PS3 came out, performed terribly, and it was so pathetic that it stopped being funny.

Seems like a new generation of gamers have to feel that burn from Sony before they wise up again, but it'll happen. It becomes clearer each day that Sony rushed this console and it's nothing more than a beefed up PS3. No innovation, nothing that changes (besides resolutions...how exciting).

Remember when Sony ripped on Achievements and Friends Lists and said they specifically would never do Achievements? Remember how they copied everything? Look for another mimicking of Microsoft once these consoles come out and people realize Sony, like Infinity Ward and Call of Duty, is the same old shit and they feel like actually getting a fresh experience for their money.

LOL. PS2 was 13 years ago at release. How much of the same management is there you think? XboxOne cost $100 more with lower specs for gaming. That's the problem a lot of people are having. It has nothing to do with the company, but the value you get. At this time the value from the ps4 is better for gaming.

 

[TimboSliceGB]

Agreed. It's about the games.

BF 4 runs native 1080p on PS4. Not jumping in on the debate as I think XB1 will do fine, but that statement isn't accurate. http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2131523/call_of_duty_ghosts_battlefield_4_1080p_native_on_ps4.html

that don't mean it's full 1080p at all lol look on back of alot of 360 and ps3 games it will say 1080 p don't mean it's running fully at 1080 p it's just upscalled to 1080 p. it has been talked for awhile now that bf4 will be running around 900 p on ps4.

 

[xCappax]

or just buy both! /end

 

[TimboSliceGB]

or just buy both! /end

yup spend close to 1k for two systems that pretty much have the same launch games yep that's being a cheap ass gamer :/

 

[Deader2818]

yup spend close to 1k for two systems that pretty much have the same launch games yep that's being a cheap ass gamer :/

But any true gamer would have both.

 

[Cindaddy]

that don't mean it's full 1080p at all lol look on back of alot of 360 and ps3 games it will say 1080 p don't mean it's running fully at 1080 p it's just upscalled to 1080 p. it has been talked for awhile now that bf4 will be running around 900 p on ps4.

Possibly. Time will tell. It will look nice on both systems, either way.

 

[Hestar]

@Neo on the PS4 being a beefed up ps3 isn't that what most people want? The ps3 may have started off BAD but it's ending on a very high note,unlike the xbox who hasn't had a great exclusive since Alan wake (halo 4 was very bleh.Series hasn't been great MP wise since 2 IMO).

you can rip on Sony all you want,but one thing sony does is bring the great AAA games...Just not at launch it seems,lol.The xbox one launch lineup looks good,I hope Ryse and DR3 don't disappoint,Also,Can't believe no dance central 4 on launch.

And you people saying COD looks like crap..Well duh,720p or not,they need to get off their pile of money and put the game on a new engine already.



 

 

[david0820]

This has become a console war thread. I personally don't care what console you buy, as long as you have fun stick with it. Why do you care what anyone else likes and why must you try to change others views? Neither Microsoft nor Sony pay you, you pay them. Enjoy the consoles for games, movies, etc. they are made for entertainment. Doesn't matter which one you prefer as long as you like it.

agreed. I think it's going to be just like last gen where I couldn't tell any difference between the two other than exclusives

 

[Mako1215]

yup spend close to 1k for two systems that pretty much have the same launch games yep that's being a cheap ass gamer :/



Learn how to get both cheap like me and it is.

 

[SniperREX]

Some of you sound too MS fanboy to admit that the Xbox One might be a little too bit under-powered compared to the PS4. I thought that there would have been minor graphical differences, but going from 1080p to maybe 900p (like Ryse) or hopefully not 720p it's not minor at all.

I don't know why the link doesn't work, it might have something to do with CAG 

Anyway I originally read about this on Yahoo front page http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/the-latest-image-problem-for-microsofts-xbox-one.aspx , but it was a Mootley Fool article. So I tried to find an article from at least a gaming website.

 

[hotstud19us]

I love how almost everyone is a graphics whore anymore.

How many of you own a 3ds or a vita. The 3ds is probably a better graphically version of a Nintendo 64 (Came out in 1995). PS Vita is pretty close to a PS3 graphically (came out in 2006). And who is winning that race. The 3ds, because of the games.

And these consoles won't really have any games that really show off what the system can do for at least a year after they come out. But everyone is having a fit over battlefield and cod. Which are essentially ports at the moment.

 

[MykelxKnight]

Some of you sound too MS fanboy to admit that the Xbox One might be a little too bit under-powered compared to the PS4. I thought that there would have been minor graphical differences, but going from 1080p to maybe 900p (like Ryse) or hopefully not 720p it's not minor at all.

I don't know why the link doesn't work, it might have something to do with CAG

Anyway I originally read about this on Yahoo front page http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/the-latest-image-problem-for-microsofts-xbox-one.aspx , but it was a Mootley Fool article. So I tried to find an article from at least a gaming website.

You sound like your being to hard of a Sony fanboy to me. The only games that have been reported playing 720p are cod and bf which I really am not gonna have a heart attack about. I can careless about those games. It sounds like its lack of developers trying to adjust setting to get the game to work right has nothing to do with hardware. Both systems are ideally identical in the hardware department besides them both using different types of ram.

 

[Neo]

But any true gamer would have both.

Absolutely not.

 

[tbassett]

Some of you sound too MS fanboy to admit that the Xbox One might be a little too bit under-powered compared to the PS4. I thought that there would have been minor graphical differences, but going from 1080p to maybe 900p (like Ryse) or hopefully not 720p it's not minor at all.

I don't know why the link doesn't work, it might have something to do with CAG

Anyway I originally read about this on Yahoo front page http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/the-latest-image-problem-for-microsofts-xbox-one.aspx , but it was a Mootley Fool article. So I tried to find an article from at least a gaming website.

Or perhaps you sound too much like a PS fanboy in an X1 thread. If you really are cancelling your pre-order b/c of a rumor two games aren't running at 1080p I have to wonder if you really have a pre-order or are interested in X1. I'm not an expert with this upscaling to 1080p etc, so I can't comment on that stuff. Until a game maker comes straight out and says it's running at xxx I wouldn't believe it. And even then I would have to better understand what that means.

27 days dude and the X1 will be rocking!!!

 

[Rodster]

Some of you sound too MS fanboy to admit that the Xbox One might be a little too bit under-powered compared to the PS4. I thought that there would have been minor graphical differences, but going from 1080p to maybe 900p (like Ryse) or hopefully not 720p it's not minor at all.

I don't know why the link doesn't work, it might have something to do with CAG

Anyway I originally read about this on Yahoo front page http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/the-latest-image-problem-for-microsofts-xbox-one.aspx , but it was a Mootley Fool article. So I tried to find an article from at least a gaming website.

And I believe John Carmack said both systems are pretty much equal. Developers will take advantage of a particular feature on each system for a particular game. He basically said as well as other devs that games on both machines will look and play identical. It will be hard to tell what system you are playing.

Another thing to consider is that they are both using similar AMD guts so if one system is chugging they could dial back the game for both systems to even out the performance because it's not like the 360 and PS3 where they were dealing with different CPUs and GPUs.

Either way I have my Day One Edition preordered and I am definitely getting a PS4 as soon as they become available.

 

[staticz]

But any true gamer would have both.

Yeah...no

 

[Paladinion]

Not to poke any bears about Ryse being at 900p but it is using Cryengine. So it may not be native 1080p but the graphics are going to be good enough to see the warriors crying wife in the eyes of the guy you just skewered. 

 

[Mako1215]

Does true 1080p matter really? As long as it looks good, and has great detail then what's the issue? More importantly if gameplay is smooth and great does it still matter?

 

[Paladinion]

Does true 1080p matter really? As long as it looks good, and has great detail then what's the issue? More importantly if gameplay is smooth and great does it still matter?

It never mattered for this whole console generation and games still managed to look and play great.

 

[Deader2818]

Absolutely not.

Yeah...no

Im not the one that said that, just saying what Timbo said before so take it up with him if you don't agree.

 

[Deader2818]

Does true 1080p matter really? As long as it looks good, and has great detail then what's the issue? More importantly if gameplay is smooth and great does it still matter?

It honestly doesnt matter but people need something to try and move that the next just is going to be such a huge improvement over the last gen.

 

[david0820]

It never mattered for this whole console generation and games still managed to look and play great.

rather than graphics I'm wanting better AI for shooters and bigger worlds for open games

 

[Neo]

Since we're in debate mode thanks to the trolls, here's something I just came across on the utter disaster that is the Xbox One Gamefaqs board:

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/169598-the-great-ps4-vs-xbox-one-storage-debate-is-500gb-really-enough-for-new-games/2
 
"In 2007, the average game took just 138 minutes to download on Steam — today, it’s 250 minutes. The average Xbox 360 game took 153 minutes to download in 2009, but 111 minutes today. PS3 titles, however, have ballooned — from 158.1 minutes in 2011 to 313 minutes in 2013."

 

[Deader2818]

Just to clarify, is a troll anyone that has says anything negative about Xbox or just anything negative in general? If its the latter then I fear everyone on here is a troll.

 

[Neo]

Amazing (off-screen) footage of Xbox One exclusive, and launch title, Dead Rising 3:

http://youtu.be/nnpfTxRABRI

 

[Neo]

Just to clarify, is a troll anyone that has says anything negative about Xbox or just anything negative in general? If its the latter then I fear everyone on here is a troll.

It's anyone who comes in here with a link to a site named after Playstation controller spewing some tired Call of Duty rumor, and then saying how they're wanting to cancel their pre-order. Either the person lacks any critical thinking skills or is trying to stir up crap (which is what a troll does). I don't think the person is stupid, so I lean towards them trolling and trying to piss people off with another BS rumor started by the Sony fanboys since they have no games (as usual) to talk about at launch. This is literally a deja vu of the Xoox 360 launch. People were going nuts back then when it was found out Perfect Dark Zero wasn't running at full 720p, along with a handful of other titles.

You know what ended up being the issue with PD: Zero? It sure as hell wasn't its resolution.

 

[Deader2818]

It's anyone who comes in here with a link to a site named after Playstation controller spewing some tired Call of Duty rumor, and then saying how they're wanting to cancel their pre-order. Either the person lacks any critical thinking skills or is trying to stir up crap (which is what a troll does). I don't think the person is stupid, so I lean towards them trolling and trying to piss people off with another BS rumor started by the Sony fanboys since they have no games (as usual) to talk about at launch. This is literally a deja vu of the Xoox 360 launch. People were going nuts back then when it was found out Perfect Dark Zero wasn't running at full 720p, along with a handful of other titles.

You know what ended up being the issue with PD: Zero? It sure as hell wasn't its resolution.

See, that comment right there to be is more of a troll comment. Saying it trying to stir crap no?

Now, you can preface that and say, in your opinion, but to say it that way seems to want to stir the pot.

 

[Zolor23]

I'm pretty impressed by how many zombies are there, and there are no slowdowns at all when running through all of them. Was the first twenty or so seconds the bootup time of the game? That seems like a long loading screen if it was just to spawn into another section of the game.

 

[Deader2818]

I'm pretty impressed by how many zombies are there, and there are no slowdowns at all when running through all of them. Was the first twenty or so seconds the bootup time of the game? That seems like a long loading screen if it was just to spawn into another section of the game.

Im going to guess it loads up the whole game at start so you dont have loads while playing, much like how The Last of Us was like.

 

[Zolor23]

Im going to guess it loads up the whole game at start so you dont have loads while playing, much like how The Last of Us was like.

That would be a great addition, especially in a long play session. I'm impressed for now.

 

[Neo]

This is what confuses me about all of this.  We all know the usual Sony hype method and the usual behavior of fanboys on either side, but launch titles never bring a console to its full potential...it wouldn't even make sense if they did.  Launch games are usually rushed and have usually been on the lower-end when it comes to depth.  This launch looks to defy that trend when it comes to depth with some games, like BF4, but games like Forza are seeing stuff like that (not having day/night cycles or whatever).  I don't know about the Playstation side but I'm sure many  of their games are also more bareboned that what many games have currently on Xbox 360 and PS3.

So...here we are again at a launch with people flipping out over resolutions and numbers when it has played out time and time again that games are rushed, not optimized, and not the best they could be at a system's launch, ever.  The games were made while the hardware went through different builds and the games were begun long before the dev kit was what the retail box would be.

Beyond that, do people seriously think Microsoft doesn't know what they are doing?  Xbox Live speaks for itself, and when it comes to hardware, remember that the PS3 (with all of its impressive numbers and specs) couldn't do party chat across games due to hardware limitations.  Microsoft knows what they're doing when it comes to software and this isn't even close to their first step into hardware (both the Zune and Surface hardware were and are solid and even many Apple fanboys said that the Zune software trumped iTunes).

Just like last time, Sony has focused on bigger numbers and cheap shots and I believe, once again, we will see them falter where it actually matters, and that's the areas of innovation and online service.  How many days and weeks did PSN go down?  How many times did a gigantic (600mb or so?) system update brick countless consoles?  How much personal information was stolen?  The next-gen is going to be all about online thanks to developers pushing that hard in order to hurt used game sales and try to compel people to not just beat a single player and sell it.  In that kind of situation, I would rather have the system with 300,000 servers and a track record of quality, fast service, rather than whatever you want to call Sony's online track record.  Maybe this generation they can actually improve their online network instead of going backwards when it comes to stability and security and just copying a couple things they previously trash talked.

And if you don't want to take my word for it, many unbiased leaders in the gaming industry who actually know what's going on have said the machines end up being identical when it comes to games (in terms of visuals).  So if that's the same, where does the PS4 actually have any advantages?  Cause the only thing I hear about is resolution numbers being spewed by the other side, rather than impressive games or new innovations the hardware is bringing. 

 

[Neo]

See, that comment right there to be is more of a troll comment. Saying it trying to stir crap no?

Now, you can preface that and say, in your opinion, but to say it that way seems to want to stir the pot.

Uh..this is the Xbox One thread, in case you forgot among all the trolling and people being afraid to say anything positive about the Xbox One without being attacked (like the guy above who praised the CryEngine).

When someone says something negative about the Xbox in a Sony forum, that isn't trolling. When someone comes into a Xbox forum, or thread, and starts not only bashing the Xbox and saying they don't want to buy it anymore, but linking to a rumor site run by the competition with a rumor that is already known as a joke, that is trolling.

Me bashing Obama on some tea party website would not be inflammatory (which is one of the main traits of a troll comment). Yet, if I go somewhere online where Obama supporters are everywhere, possibly his facebook, and post the same thing, that would be trolling.

For months in this thread people have to walk on eggshells if they ever want to say anything positive about the Xbox One cause there's always a handful of people ready to go nuts and start rating posts and threads down in retaliation. We can't just sit here and talk about all the games we have coming or post awesome videos cause then someone comes in, a troll, and starts rattling off Sony talking points and resolution numbers that no one actually cares about until Sony tells them to. It's annoying and pathetic, but mainly it's absolutely transparent, especially when I've seen this show before.

 

[Demontooth]

We need a mod to come in here and clean up all this console arguing shit.

 

[MykelxKnight]

We need a mod to come in here and clean up all this console arguing shit.

The arguing will continue until systems come out and then you will see more arguing for a month or so. People really have no lives and like to argue about pointless things it feels the void of emptyness in them. I swear for a bunch of people who claim they are gamers they sure do a lot more arguing then playing games.

 

[Deader2818]

It honestly doesn't matter and like it has been said, what matters in the end is games.

 

[Neo]

Today I came within 20 seconds of being late to donating plasma and losing out on $40 I would not be able to get back and lose out on.  I have been contemplating for months whether to keep my Forza pre-order on Amazon along with my confirmed Dead Rising 3, Battlefield 4, and Need for Speed: Rivals purchases.  With five minutes to go before I would be 10 minutes late, and thus turned away, I told myself at a red light that if I did make it I would keep my pre-order for Forza no matter what.  

I then used the skills I've honed in Forza (and Need for Speed) and made it with 20 seconds to spare and was able to sign in and donate.  However, I almost ended up failing the screening process cause my pulse was at 98 (anything over 100 and I would have been turned away as well).  

So, yay, I'm getting Forza 5 for sure now!  Between those four games, Killer Instinct, the new UI, Xbox Fitness, etc. it's going to take many days to even get a hold on everything.

 

[Deader2818]

Wait, you sold plasma to be able to pre-order games?

 

[staticz]

That would be a great addition, especially in a long play session. I'm impressed for now.

at E3 I'm fairly certain they said DR3 would load the entire world, meaning no load time during game play. Pretty sweet if they can follow through.

 

[Paladinion]

Wait, you sold plasma to be able to pre-order games?

I do the same thing, its a easy 60 bones a week to sit there for an hour and listen to music on my phone. It pretty much finances all my video game habits.

 

[Neo]

Wait, you sold plasma to be able to pre-order games?

No, I have donated for over five years. It was just that I knew today I probably wasn't going to make it in time and I made a deal with myself that if I found a way to get there in time, I would get that game since it'd be like getting it for $19.99 now, so I made sure to make it. May have broken some laws but I did it.