Wii U - General Discussion Thread

Can't remember last time I payed for ms office so many better opions that are free on internet that can even make the files work on office for others to view
 
Blaster man said:
It's looking like MS is going to try to sell Office as a service to folks that need to use it on a lot of devices. They'll still have the regular software package but going forward the cloud is the way to go. People will be able to work on their stuff anywhere and on any device made by any manufacturer. I'm sure you can see the appeal of this?
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You greatly overestimate the appeal of this. Anyone with proprietary or personal information will shy away from a new vector of attack. Tech companies won't use it, government won't use it, and health care won't use it.

 
FriskyTanuki said:
They've fucked up the whole thing so that now the two systems are competitors instead of being great compliments to one another.
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Well there is the Gamepad. What exactly was on the GBA that was so fantastic that it's a must buy. I did have a GBA Advanced (still do somewhere) but that was for Zelda on GC for the tingle stuff. I didn't really play games on it.
 
Blaster man said:
Well there is the Gamepad. What exactly was on the GBA that was so fantastic that it's a must buy. I did have a GBA Advanced (still do somewhere) but that was for Zelda on GC for the tingle stuff. I didn't really play games on it.
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Golden Sun series, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Zelda, Castlevania, Metroid, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Advance Wars. Those games might not appeal to you but you can't really argue that they weren't good GBA games.

The GBA had a ton of great games for it.

 
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LordVila said:
Golden Sun series, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Zelda, Castlevania, Metroid, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Advance Wars. Those games might not appeal to you but you can't really argue that they weren't good GBA games.

The GBA had a ton of great games for it.
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I actually just bought Golden Sun and Advance Wars 2 in the past week (and really wanting to play Zero Mission and Fusion someday), playing catch up since I never owned a GBA in the past. For most people I know, they don't buy both the handheld and the consoles, just either or, so cross marketing the GBA games on a home console that has a portable (well, semi portable) screen isn't a bad idea at all.

Though they should have BOTH Wii U and 3DS VC versions available, no reason they can't do that.

 
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Blaster man said:
Well there is the Gamepad. What exactly was on the GBA that was so fantastic that it's a must buy. I did have a GBA Advanced (still do somewhere) but that was for Zelda on GC for the tingle stuff. I didn't really play games on it.
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Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, WarioWare, Super Monkey Ball, Prince of Persia, Klonoa, F-Zero, Astro Boy, Boktai, and plenty more beyond that. Plus, it's probably the only way you'll get Yoshi's Island on any Virtual Console.

The thing is that these games were made for a portable, so it makes more sense for the 3DS since they already gave out the Ambassador games there. Blowing up the games for an HDTV or even the GamePad is not going to look that great.

 
FriskyTanuki said:
Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, WarioWare, Super Monkey Ball, Prince of Persia, Klonoa, F-Zero, Astro Boy, Boktai, and plenty more beyond that. Plus, it's probably the only way you'll get Yoshi's Island on any Virtual Console.

The thing is that these games were made for a portable, so it makes more sense for the 3DS since they already gave out the Ambassador games there. Blowing up the games for an HDTV or even the GamePad is not going to look that great.
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Agreed. There were some fantastic GBA games (I still have my GBA SP and plenty of games for it, hated the dim original GBA but loved the backlit SP), but they're best played on a tiny screen. GBA games have a resolution of 240x160, which would look awful on a 1920x1080 TV (or even a 720p one). Can't imagine why Nintendo doesn't focus on GC games for the Wii U, and keep the handheld game ports to the 3DS.

 
Eh, although they wouldn't look the greatest, a lot of GBA games look like or were based on SNES games which really hold up well in terms of console TV play.  

I've been playing SNES virtual console games (Super Mario World, Super Metroid, Earthbound) on my TV and they look great. On the Gamepad they look even better, in fact I say they look better on the Gamepad than they would on a 3DS or 3DS XL. 

I'm actually intrigued by GBA and DS games on the Wii U, although reasonable pricing is going to be a major factor on whether I actually pick up some titles. 

 
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AFRO insomniac said:
Eh, although they wouldn't look the greatest, a lot of GBA games look like or were based on SNES games which really hold up well in terms of console TV play.

I've been playing SNES virtual console games (Super Mario World, Super Metroid, Earthbound) on my TV and they look great. On the Gamepad they look even better, in fact I say they look better on the Gamepad than they would on a 3DS or 3DS XL.

I'm actually intrigued by GBA and DS games on the Wii U, although reasonable pricing is going to be a major factor on whether I actually pick up some titles.
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SNES has a much bigger resolution than GBA, so of course they look pretty good on the Wii U.

GBA games were designed with a smaller screen in mind, so they are a better fit on the 3DS as I've seen from playing them on mine myself. SNES games were designed for a bigger TV display, so they work well on a TV.

 
FriskyTanuki said:
SNES has a much bigger resolution than GBA, so of course they look pretty good on the Wii U.

GBA games were designed with a smaller screen in mind, so they are a better fit on the 3DS as I've seen from playing them on mine myself. SNES games were designed for a bigger TV display, so they work well on a TV.
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I have gameboy advance player for my gamecube and games look fine on that.

 
Deader2818 said:
I have gameboy advance player for my gamecube and games look fine on that.
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My point still stands that they'd be a better fit on the 3DS than the Wii U and Nintendo ignoring that is a mistake. They should be focusing on getting N64, GC, and Wii games on the Wii U Virtual Console and adding GBA and DS to the 3DS Virtual Console.

 
FriskyTanuki said:
My point still stands that they'd be a better fit on the 3DS than the Wii U and Nintendo ignoring that is a mistake. They should be focusing on getting N64, GC, and Wii games on the Wii U Virtual Console and adding GBA and DS to the 3DS Virtual Console.
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Not really disagreeing with that but just saying that its not like they havent GBA games on TV before.

This really shouldnt be a shock to anyone since they said a year ago they were going to add GBA games to the Wii U VC.

 
Deader2818 said:
Not really disagreeing with that but just saying that its not like they havent GBA games on TV before.

This really shouldnt be a shock to anyone since they said a year ago they were going to add GBA games to the Wii U VC.
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GBA on an SDTV is probably a bit better than an HDTV, but a 3DS screen would still be the ideal situation.

Never said it was a shocking thing, but I've been against the notion of ignoring the ideal platform for this sort of stuff over putting them on the Wii U instead because they're so desperate for more content. Same with the DS stuff. They really need get their heads out of their ass in regards to making the eShop truly cross-platform with Cross Buy support for applicable VC games and eShop stuff that is on both systems to create a co-operative ecosystem than one that is more combative and childish.

 
Deader2818 said:
Im following you but why is it "childish?"
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The exclusivity between the two gives off the impression of there being a Wii U eShop team making faces at the 3DS eShop team saying "We get these games and you can't have them!" *sticks tongue out at them* It's like they're grade school kids that can't share.

 
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FriskyTanuki said:
My point still stands that they'd be a better fit on the 3DS than the Wii U and Nintendo ignoring that is a mistake. They should be focusing on getting N64, GC, and Wii games on the Wii U Virtual Console and adding GBA and DS to the 3DS Virtual Console.
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They're probably going to upscale it by a factor of 3 and have it take up the SD space in the center of your screen. 720X480.

LordVila said:
Of course the simplest solution is cross-buy/cross-play between Wii U and 3DS.
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Nintendo doesn't seem particularly fond of that idea. I think that they believe that if they have to put work in to port it to another platform than you should have to pay for the content (and their hard work) on that platform. I mean, look at the Wii to Wii U games. They obviously don't give a shit if Sony is letting you buy a game once and play it on 2 (and in some cases 3) platforms, they don't think they're in competition with anyone else. Or at least that's what they've believed for quite some time (that belief may be changing finally).

 
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Do you think the Wii U will see another price drop at E3? My girlfriend is thinking about getting me one for my birthday in March with the Target GC deal next week, but I'm wondering if it's gonna drop further. Even when it comes to gifts, I am a CAG after all ;)
 
GamerDude316 said:
Do you think the Wii U will see another price drop at E3? My girlfriend is thinking about getting me one for my birthday in March with the Target GC deal next week, but I'm wondering if it's gonna drop further. Even when it comes to gifts, I am a CAG after all ;)
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Who knows. A lot of people (myself included) have found the 32GB models for $250 or less. They might do a price cut at E3 though the previous price cut was a month or two after that.

 
Yeah GBA games look fine on TV. But they definitely should be on 3DS also.

I'm much more into playing retro games on handhelds. If I'm sitting down to game on the big screen I want to play a full fledged console game with great graphics and sound like Mario 3D World or The Last of Us. Handhelds I'm much more likely to play old games or little indie games since cutting edge graphics aren't key to the handheld experience.

And they definitely should have cross buy. That's a big reason why I finally bought a Vita--being able to play stuff like Guacamelee on either platform.

Nintendo really needs to get up to speed on that kind of stuff or just stop making hardware since they suck at that and online infrastructure. They make fantastic games, but it's getting old having to buy underpowered and clunky hardware to enjoy them.  But they'd have to fail a few more times for that to happen since they're still sitting on mountains of cash from the success of the Wii and all their handhelds.

 
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Why does Nintendo need cross buy? 3ds should keep having its own games and wii u the same. Sony only did cross buy to help sell their handheld system. Nintendo don't need that with 3ds.
 
They could easily make the games available on both systems at the same time, then offer a discount if you buy it both places.

e.g., Metroid Fusion is $5 on 3DS e-shop, $7 on Wii U e-shop, $9 for complete access on both.

 
TimboSliceGB said:
Why does Nintendo need cross buy? 3ds should keep having its own games and wii u the same. Sony only did cross buy to help sell their handheld system. Nintendo don't need that with 3ds.
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True but it would be nice just to purchase the really old games just once. The price for the virtual console game are pretty steep considering how old they are and some of them can even be found on compilation disc or other means for less what Nintendo is charging.

 
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TimboSliceGB said:
Why does Nintendo need cross buy? 3ds should keep having its own games and wii u the same. Sony only did cross buy to help sell their handheld system. Nintendo don't need that with 3ds.
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They want to sell their console that gets a lot of the same games as 3DS, so Virtual Console and eShop stuff would be more enticing for people to own both and be able to play them wherever they want to play them.

 
FriskyTanuki said:
They want to sell their console that gets a lot of the same games as 3DS, so Virtual Console and eShop stuff would be more enticing for people to own both and be able to play them wherever they want to play them.
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Agreed. It seems like a no-brainer. Lots of people have 3DS's. If those people got Wii U copies of the 3DS games they buy, they could eventually get a critical mass of Wii U games. Lots of people would be tempted to pick up a Wii U if they already own say, 10 games on it.

 
Yeah being able to play games on either the handheld or the tv console is a great feature. Be it remote play of console games or cross buy (and saves) for virtual console or indie games.

I didn't care when I lived alone, but it's great once you live with others and share the tv. Plus being able to get some progress in a game while on the toilet or in the kitchen while cooking ( in between active tasks) is great as well when super busy).

So having cross play makes me much more apt to buy both pieces of hardware and I'm sure many others are the same. Remote play, cross buy and having several games from ps+ are what got me to buy a Vita.
 
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soonersfan60 said:
They could easily make the games available on both systems at the same time, then offer a discount if you buy it both places.

e.g., Metroid Fusion is $5 on 3DS e-shop, $7 on Wii U e-shop, $9 for complete access on both.
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Eh. Seeing how efficiently Sony has handled cross buy, both with new digital titles and PS1 games, one flat price is the way to go. These are games that just need an emulator working, something people on the internet have had working for years. No game development cost involved. Hell, the Vita had PS1 support patched in months after release, and suddenly a bunch of games people bought years prior on PSN were playable at no extra cost beyond what they already paid. This is about giving consumers a good value to repurchase old games that they could easily buy used or play on emulators, and so far Nintendo hasn't done that.

Not to mention the slow as snails VC release schedule. There should be a new game every week on both platforms. Its so fucking absurd.
 
I said before that Nintendo should have released VC titles on the same schedule as the original released titles, +18 years or whatever... steady flow and get people hyped to re-buy all the games they loved as a kid (with Super Mario Bros/Duck Hunt as a free download with the console).

 
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To be fair, the X1 and PS4 have big threads for general discussion.  The 3DS as well.

I'm not a huge fan of big catch all threads either, but it's just the norm here I guess.

 
Brad Bishop said:
It sort of sucks that all Wii U discussion, no matter what the topic, is contained in this long thread.
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I think you'd find that if you broke out several different Wii U topics into multiple threads you wouldn't get nearly the activity you'd want. People tend not to monitor several different threads at once (especially on just one slice of gaming). That's just my observation from 10 years on CAG ;). (Good lord - 10 years...)
 
whodoneit said:
yeah i dont get it. seems kinda dumb. Lordvila seems to have it right.
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It's mostly from Zelda fans going insane at the notion of Jeff Gerstmann suggesting that Twilight Princess wasn't a perfect game like they expected. Some of those people even cheered his firing due to the whole Gerstmann-gate thing.

 
I was at the post office to ship something I sold for my niece and I saw some fat guy that looked to be in his late 20's with his sister.  She was shipping some packages and he was just slummin at the post office with his sweat pants that had Mario faces all over it.  Deader, was that you?

 
I would LOVE to see them re-release Twilight Princess in HD like they did with Wind Waker.  I don't think it would look as nice though... maybe if they put some efforts into improving the textures, etc. 

Has anyone been enjoying NSMBU?  I just started playing it and it is infuriatingly hard because of the controls.  I am experiencing significant lag (well, significant enough to cause me to mistime most of my jumps - especially edge jumps) with respect to Mario jumping on screen - I don't have this issue in any other game on any other system so I'm 99% sure it isn't related to my television.  Is this a thing or is it just me?

 
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