Steam Deals Thread V13 ~ Star Wars Empire at War $6.80 | The Legend of Korra $10.04 | Red Faction Guerrilla $2.99 |

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Summer sale has come and gone; welcome to the Steam Deals Thread V13!
 
Stop: Before you go any further be sure you are using Enhanced Steam. It will save you a lot of time and embarrassment in the future.
 
Daily Deal
Star Wars: Empire at War Gold Edition - $19.99 $6.80

 
Yesterday's Deal

N/A

Midweek Madness
The Legend of Korra - $14.99 $10.04

Red Faction - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction II - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction Armageddon - $19.99 $2.99
Red Faction Guerrilla - $19.99 $2.99 
 
Thanks to EastX, Detruire, Psydero, and everyone else that has contributed to the thread!

 
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Foxhack said:
Trying to get this for cheap.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/49962/

But the few traders that I'm seeing keep asking for the same price it is down here... argh.
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I KNEW that I should have held off buying the Bundle Star Phantom bundle. I paid $2.49 (plus whatever international fee) for the bundle for 3 games that are in the steam bundle. Lesson learned to wait. Nevertheless, $4.5 for 8 of these games is GREAT, for 5 not so much.

 
waabulo said:
I KNEW that I should have held off buying the Bundle Star Phantom bundle. I paid $2.49 (plus whatever international fee) for the bundle for 3 games that are in the steam bundle. Lesson learned to wait. Nevertheless, $4.5 for 8 of these games is GREAT, for 5 not so much.
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That BS bundle was probably worth it for Haunted alone.. that's what I bought it for, and it's not in that pack. I'll just wait for the other games to get bundled.

 
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Neuro5i5 said:
I'm a fan of Hitachi drives. Have had zero issues with them; desktop or server. (Whereas I've had 7 WD Blacks RMA'd in the past 3 years with 3 more to RMA when I'm not being lazy; none DOA, they just start developing bad sectors. All have very little use as far as HDD's go.) HGST has since been bought by WD and HDDs are being manufactured by Toshiba, so that's kinda weird (I've got a few Toshiba's that are essentially HGST tech). Fwiw, I've had great success with WD Enterprise drive, it's just the cost of the higher capacity units is getting out of my reach.
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I haven't bought a HDD outside of a couple external HDDs (Which I find fail more due to more points of failure) in almost 10 years (Last two personal drive purchases were SSDs for internal). However I do know that the higher the capacity, the higher the chance of failure. So typically when using internal drives I intentionally never went above 1TB for a single drive. This probably accounts for why I have a low failure rate on my internal drives.

I know I'm going the pricey route, but I'm looking for reliability in hardware first and foremost. Second will be parity through RAID. Just deciding whether it will be RAID 1 or 10 right off the bat. If it's an 8-bay, then I would only buy two drives to start and then later get an additional 4 so I can make a RAID 10 and move it over and then expand it with the original two drives. If it's a 4-bay, I'm stuck with RAID 1 unless I have something to move the data off to while I rebuild it as RAID 10 unless I buy four drives and at the price difference I could do that.

 
Neuro5i5 said:
I'm a fan of Hitachi drives. Have had zero issues with them; desktop or server. (Whereas I've had 7 WD Blacks RMA'd in the past 3 years with 3 more to RMA when I'm not being lazy; none DOA, they just start developing bad sectors. All have very little use as far as HDD's go.) HGST has since been bought by WD and HDDs are being manufactured by Toshiba, so that's kinda weird (I've got a few Toshiba's that are essentially HGST tech). Fwiw, I've had great success with WD Enterprise drive, it's just the cost of the higher capacity units is getting out of my reach.
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I've never had a single WD HDD failure in 20 years. Seagate and Hiatchi (looking at old IBM deathstars still makes me have fits of rage) have been absolute garbage for me. As far as home NASs go, I've become a huge fan of Synology and I'm currently using the DS412+ in a hybrid RAID setup with 4 WD Blacks.

 
Draekon said:
I haven't bought a HDD outside of a couple external HDDs (Which I find fail more due to more points of failure) in almost 10 years (Last two personal drive purchases were SSDs for internal). However I do know that the higher the capacity, the higher the chance of failure. So typically when using internal drives I intentionally never went above 1TB for a single drive. This probably accounts for why I have a low failure rate on my internal drives.

I know I'm going the pricey route, but I'm looking for reliability in hardware first and foremost. Second will be parity through RAID. Just deciding whether it will be RAID 1 or 10 right off the bat. If it's an 8-bay, then I would only buy two drives to start and then later get an additional 4 so I can make a RAID 10 and move it over and then expand it with the original two drives. If it's a 4-bay, I'm stuck with RAID 1 unless I have something to move the data off to while I rebuild it as RAID 10 unless I buy four drives and at the price difference I could do that.
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All of my WD failures have been with 2TB drives.

I don't like RAID 1/10 personally. I use RAID 5 in my NAS for potentially "uninterrupted" data access and all that data is backed up externally. My Steam setup is in RAID 0 which is also backed up.

Bruticis said:
I've never had a single WD HDD failure in 20 years. Seagate and Hiatchi (looking at old IBM deathstars still makes me have fits of rage) have been absolute garbage for me. As far as home NASs go, I've become a huge fan of Synology and I'm currently using the DS412+ in a hybrid RAID setup with 4 WD Blacks.
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Synology was a brand I was considering before I bought my Thecus. Got the Thecus for cheaper, so...

And, yeah, those old Hitachi's I would never touch. During those years I mainly used Maxtor. I was surprised myself with the reliability I've had with the higher capacity Hitachi drives of recent. And don't get me started on Seagate. I've mainly forgotten about them which is why I never even mention them. I don't think I've had another brand with more firmware issues, than Seagate. For the record, all of my WD Black failures have been with FASS and FAEX 2TB HDDs. I've had them fail in all sorts of installs, so I'm personally turned off from WD consumer drive tech for now.

 
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Neuro5i5 said:
All of my WD failures have been with 2TB drives.

I don't like RAID 1/10 personally. I use RAID 5 in my NAS for potentially "uninterrupted" data access and all that data is backed up externally. My Steam setup is in RAID 0 which is also backed up.

Synology was a brand I was considering before I bought my Thecus. Got the Thecus for cheaper, so...

And, yeah, those old Hitachi's I would never touch. During those years I mainly used Maxtor. I was surprised myself with the reliability I've had with the higher capacity Hitachi drives of recent. And don't get me started on Seagate. I've mainly forgotten about them which is why I never even mention them. I don't think I've had another brand with more firmware issues, than Seagate. For the record, all of my WD Black failures have been with FASS and FAEX 2TB HDDs. I've had them fail in all sorts of installs, so I'm personally turned off from WD consumer drive tech for now.
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Maxtor was my go-to brand back in the day as well.

Synology was one I was originally considering. However their recent firmware updates have caused issues with RAID rebuilds, so I'm really hesitant on doing it otherwise I would have. Especially since their support is shit. QNAP on the other hand has really good support if I run into any problems. I haven't done much research on Thecus yet, but I'll make my decision by tomorrow evening so I can get the stuff here by Tuesday or Wednesday at the latest.

As for RAID 5, it's nice for the extra space over RAID 10. However it doesn't allow as many drives to go bad simultaneously. I've run into several issues on-the-job that RAID 5 has caused and I don't really want to deal with it for the most part in my free time. However that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of times where RAID 5 has done its job, but it's just a pain in the ass to deal with when something goes seriously wrong which seems to happen to me more frequently than it should. It's to the point where I do a little 'Please don't fuck up' when I hot swap a RAID 5 drive.

There's also the fact that should I actually use my NAS intensively at all, then the extra read and write speed over RAID 5 will come in handy. It's more of a 'We'll see what happens down the raid' kind of thing. Much like my 'I'll get this PSU that supports two GPUs' and then never bother with a second GPU.

 
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I buy whatever drive is the best price/performance/capacity. Brand really means nothing, nor do anecdotes from people on the internet. I used to work at a computer OEM and the failure rates for all of the manufacturers were basically the same. What was different were particular models/lots would have issues and we would quickly pull them from the shelf and force the manufacturer to swap them.

 
spoderman said:
Sure she does, lostnumber
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I take offense to that. I wouldn't touch that game with a ten foot pole and I certainly wouldn't force that kind of torture on any of my family. Also I don't have kids.

 
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Drabelincoln said:
fuck the bus, period...
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People still take the bus? I just ride the subway and try to make small talk with pretty ladies. Although it's a subway, so you have to keep it close to the chest. And by that, I mean real or fake tits, because a sex change costs too much for someone who rides the subway.

 
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