I'd vote for Windows 8 before I vote for either party.I can hope Romney is out, but since when can you trust what a politician says?
Clinton v Bush... ugh.
Can we just let computers run the government yet?
Windows 8 treats everyone like shit, and doesn't pick favorites.
I would pretty much say either of those are a worst case scenario.
er...I've been in this chair most of your life." These people are the reason America is where it is today. The idea that some person leasing a giant white house for 4-8 years has much impact is damn silly.
themselves. Voter Apathy is rather high. I think people forget that the President doesn't write the laws and passes them, and this is what the Republicans are banking on.I'm always torn when it comes to term limits.Who in the hell do you think is going to listen to you when Thad Cochran is sitting there thinking "Mother
Bingo. Couldn't agree more. Term limits are DESPERATELY needed. It will help take money out of politics, and let fresh, new faces have a chance. People often are voting on legacy and name, and when you've been pandering to the electorate and working with lobbyists for 40yrs, you had your chance. Get out of the way now, go on your 100k speaking tours, and GTFO. American Politics are completely broken. We need a viable third party, term limits, and I'd love to see campaign contributions be taxable, with the tax raised being required to pay down the national debt.
The part where I DO think term limits will help is the lobbyists will need to build new relationships with congressmen far more frequently, and maybe they turn a few off in their presentation. The refresh gives us a chance to get someone better, worse, or the same. But at least lobbyists will have to work harder, decide if it's still worth it to dump so much money into elections, sway policy, and keep maintaining the status quo.
Sure, but that tree didn't start 50 years old. Someone in a single office for fifty years has either won election eight times or twenty-five separate times, depending on the chamber. If you've successfully made the case for re-election 8/25 times then perhaps it should take an exceptional candidate to knock you out.
So much of this. There's not a thing here I disgree with. (oh, and those staff members/advisors? those positions would end up being filled with former congresscritters anyway)
Yeah, I don't disagree with that...but I guess the thought is rather than openly inviting it, at least make it a little harder to manipulate. That's what I mean that it might not be an ultimate solution. But should at least be one facet to limiting the opportunity of being in someone's pocket. It just feels like the alternative is a "Why bother? What's the use?" approach. And again...if we're at that point, then stick a fork in this country and our alleged "freedoms".
that noise!" lol. Makes you wonder what type of person you're voting for if they're afraid of a fair fight.
It's not a question of their age, really. It's just a reality that if you term limit a House rep to two terms, then you will never have a House rep (including committee chairs and Speaker of the House) with more than four years experience. I think that's more of a bad thing than a good thing. How close they are to getting the senior discount at Denny's is secondary.
You don't think a middle ground between two terms and infinity would be reasonable?
ing sick of gerrymandering as I am of the lack of term limits. Moreso, likely.
Not really how it works, at least in states like California. The professional politicians are still around, just now in un-elected advisory positions to incoming freshmen. If they aren't in advisory position, they become the lobbyists for corporation, non-profits, or think tanks. Honestly the only thing term limits do is put unskilled legislators against a well oiled and financed machine most don't have any hope of understanding before they are whisked off to their second and last election. Then they just grab whatever cash/jobs/favor they can on the way out. Then the process continues again for the next group.The part where I DO think term limits will help is the lobbyists will need to build new relationships with congressmen far more frequently, and maybe they turn a few off in their presentation. The refresh gives us a chance to get someone better, worse, or the same. But at least lobbyists will have to work harder, decide if it's still worth it to dump so much money into elections, sway policy, and keep maintaining the status quo.
On the Presidential side, it would be fun if the President and VP were required to be the winner of the election, and the candidate they beat. Olllld school style. Those would make for some interesting State of the Unions!
It only took Putin about 10 years to undermine the Duma. I kind of feel that Term limits wont stop anything you mention in your post. If they put good legislation at a disadvantage, if they are too long a skilled person/group can get out from under any system.Perhaps some kind of mixed term limit is possible. Two is just arbitrary, and for reasons Syntax Error and others pointed out, that creates tremendous volatility in the House. So perhaps maximum four consecutive terms or ten terms in total?
Two is fine for the Senate. Maybe three, I'm not wedded to a particular number.
I wholly agree that the problem with term limits is that it presents an arbitrary cutoff point where we might lose some people who otherwise are amazing public servants. Since we've had precisely zero of those in two centuries plus (hey, man, I love Bernie Sanders and really dug Dennis Kucinich, it's not like I would *insist* upon their right to exist in congress in perpetuity).
Oh, that reminds me - I would take congressional district boundary making out of the hands of federal and state congress altogether. I'm not 100% sold on who I *would* have evaluate it, but I'm just as
I mean, is it that unexpected? This has been brewing for over 15 years since Clinton was in office. The only thing that sidetracked her was Obama's unexpected gravitas building to the 2008 election. Now that he's out of the way the expectation has returned, it's inevitable.
