1UP's Thoughts for TGS (Tons of PS3 Love)

I'll admit that the PS3 did gain some steam after a few missteps recently. Though Xbox 360 is still doing a lot of things right as well. First Sony shows White Knight Story and makes me think that this is THE reason for me to own a PS3. Then MS announces Splinter Cell and GTA IV mission exclusivities. All the more reason to get an Xbox 360. THEN, freaking Sony counters that with Obvlivion going to PS3 with bonus material.

All that's left now is for Dead Rising to go to the PS3 and I think I'll know what system to buy after I get the Wii.
 
Hm, the post show thoughts seem really split though with only about half of the writers saying "PS3 proved it's point here, well worth buying". Yes PS3 won all the awards simply because it was, in essence, a Sony show.
 
[quote name='furyk']Hm, the post show thoughts seem really split though with only about half of the writers saying "PS3 proved it's point here, well worth buying". Yes PS3 won all the awards simply because it was, in essence, a Sony show.[/quote]

Xbox 360 is currently having it's own show in Europe. I'm sure they'll get plenty of press for that. Most of the companies do several shows on their own to avoid having to compete for attention. Such is the business.
 
[quote name='solid snake']hehe and the ps3 deserves it i am so glad i didnt buy a 360.:applause: ;)

i see all the 360 cryboys are whinning[/quote]

Z-saber,

I think this post is just as ridiculous. I'm an equal opportunity fanboy hater. :)
 
Jeremy Parish: This year's TGS was as close to boring as something like this can be. Sony's good stuff is just a video-only haze, while Microsoft is still struggling to grok what Japanese gamers want. The prevailing message, I think, was, "Please be patient until we get our acts together."

I thought that comment was funny in comparison to the other editor comments.
 
[quote name='dastly75']Jeremy Parish: This year's TGS was as close to boring as something like this can be. Sony's good stuff is just a video-only haze, while Microsoft is still struggling to grok what Japanese gamers want. The prevailing message, I think, was, "Please be patient until we get our acts together."

I thought that comment was funny in comparison to the other editor comments.[/quote]

I don't get that quote either...were they even at the same show? I'm confused.
 
[quote name='furyk']Hm, the post show thoughts seem really split though with only about half of the writers saying "PS3 proved it's point here, well worth buying". Yes PS3 won all the awards simply because it was, in essence, a Sony show.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, plus X06 leveled TGS's 8 days in about 2 hrs..lol
 
[quote name='solid snake']hehe and the ps3 deserves it i am so glad i didnt buy a 360.:applause: ;)

i see all the 360 cryboys are whinning[/quote]

This is just a stupid post. Did you read the first sentence of the post-show impressions? It said, "Sony owned the show (not surprisingly, given that Nintendo was virtually absent and Microsoft was holding some of its cards for X06)." Gee, I wonder why Sony had the best showing...

Also, why does the "PS3 deserve it" at all? Sony has shown us virtually nothing to get us excited about up until TGS. They don't "deserve" anything.
 
[quote name='Daddy']Agreed, plus X06 leveled TGS's 8 days in about 2 hrs..lol[/quote]
It was three days and no, X06 didn't level TGS in two hours.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It was three days and no, X06 didn't level TGS in two hours.[/QUOTE]


Ya ok suuuurrreeee it didnt
 
[quote name='solid snake']hehe and the ps3 deserves it i am so glad i didnt buy a 360.:applause: ;)

i see all the 360 cryboys are whinning[/QUOTE]


all I see is a Sony fanboy trying to reassure himself PS3 is amazing, which is kinda sad
 
Oh man... 1UP gave Sony some awards. Wow.

That's it ladies and gents, the console wars are over. Sony won.

:roll:

It means nothing until we get our hands on it. You can have critics praise and honor something to no end but it won't mean shit for Sony unless they can satisfy consumers.;) I'm still not impressed by the games or their pricing policy. I'm seeing a lot better games on the 360 than the PS3 (for now).
 
Did anyone watch the most recent 1upshow? They were going on and on about how great the PS3 was...then one of the guys (not sure on names) kept saying how he was unimpressed by some of the stuff like white knight story. He was like yeah its a prettier version of the same thing. Then CheapyD in the cagcast was saying how the PS3 games looked all jaggy and what not. While I'm sure there will be some good stuff at some point it still all seems to be hype on 1up's part. Personally the only thing right now that I can say looks sick and I'm interested in is MGS4.
 
[quote name='Vinny']It means nothing until we get our hands on it. You can have critics praise and honor something to no end but it won't mean shit for Sony unless they can satisfy consumers.;) I'm still not impressed by the games or their pricing policy. I'm seeing a lot better games on the 360 than the PS3 (for now).[/QUOTE]

Didn't these same critics say the PSP will dominate the DS because it looked better. Well the sales are neck and neck world wide but the DS is crushing the PSP in Japan. Of course, as you said it doesn't matter till we get our hands on it.
 
I am no Fanyboy to any company , but the way they kept going on about how ps3 is amazing makes feel like they were paid to say so highly of ps3 and nothing else.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It was three days and no, X06 didn't level TGS in two hours.[/QUOTE]

How can you say that? X06 had all the good announcements like that we'd be getting another shitty Rare adventure and that we'd finally be able to play Doom on XBL arcade. I mean, how can you beat an outdated shooter from over a decade ago?
 
[quote name='solid snake']hehe and the ps3 deserves it i am so glad i didnt buy a 360.:applause: ;)

i see all the 360 cryboys are whinning[/QUOTE]

Haven't I read this somewhere before???

Oh yeah.. every day I read an article on Gamestop news and accidentally scroll down too far in the user replies.

You know.. attitudes like make marketing departments cream their pants. It's also partially why a company will assume its brand equity is nominally sky high, thus eventually screwing the consumer by believing it doesn't have to be competitive. Who's going to lose in the end? Millions of enthusiasts who won't play MGS4 until three price drops on the hardware occur.

It isn't a contest.. Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony aren't in some grand schlong measuring battle. If you look at the bare facts, from a logical perspective, all TGS illustrates is that the gap between Eastern and Western gaming is widening. Never before has it occurred on this scale, where two seperate companies with the resources of Sony and Microsoft, and seperated by two nations, had to fight for the same market. Atari dominated for years, and then the market crashed (partly due to a flood of poor software, similar to what happens today). Then Nintendo stepped in, and dominated the market.. then the market was split with Sega (I'm not counting other manufacturers such as Neo Geo and TurboGrafx for a reason, as they held smaller segments of the market). Then Sony dominated the market... suddenly, an American company steps in to further split the market.. which hadn't been accomplished since the 80's.

American companies contributed to the Japanese firms' successes through American and European software (game) development. The market here is different in Japan.. and that's why you don't see localization of train simulator games and whatnot. Inversely, the Japanese market isn't too keen on running around with a sniper rifle and screaming "owned" into a headset. The cultures are different, the markets are different, and that's just the way it is.

There's going to be a split.. with the competition the way it is and money to be had, one company cannot dominate all markets as had occurred in the 80's and 90's. The division has begun, and MS is realizing that they can only exist (with their current strategy) as a niche provider in Japan. Since Sony is producing a high cost machine, they are screwing themselves to only appeal to a high end, niche/early adopter market. Nintendo.. well... they're going for broke and trying to expand their market by appealing to different users (great if you ask me).

So.. what's all this mean? There's a division that's growing. It's why so many developers are truly going third party... developing across all platforms, to maximize profitibility. Fanboy assclowns do nothing more than skew data and make up for lacking aspects of their lives by worshipping a corporate product and proclaiming its greatness... and if get your dualshock out of your ass, stick your nose in marketing and economics books, and actually enjoy the hobby your worship; you'll realize that competition is great for everybody (and thus, you won't have to bag groceries for 6 months and ride to work on a bicycle just to save up for a core system to attain internet message board bragging rights, while having to play a demo disk for 2 more months until you save enough to purchase one game.
 
[quote name='solid snake']hehe and the ps3 deserves it i am so glad i didnt buy a 360.:applause: ;)

i see all the 360 cryboys are whinning[/quote]
No, they aren't, because in an hour and a half of X06, there were more big announcements and game demos shown than in the entire TGS.
 
people who get offended at somone insulting the 360 are just as bad as the people insulting the 360... it's a fricking game machine, not your mother. -_-...
I enjoy my 360 and all, but damn people......
 
[quote name='Chacrana']How can you say that? X06 had all the good announcements like that we'd be getting another shitty Rare adventure and that we'd finally be able to play Doom on XBL arcade. I mean, how can you beat an outdated shooter from over a decade ago?[/quote]Why does everyone hate Doom? I seriously don't understand this.
 
[quote name='Z-Saber']Why does everyone hate Doom? I seriously don't understand this.[/QUOTE]

Eh, I just think it's too simplistic to be fun now. It had some good ideas, but it feels incredibly generic and it simply hasn't aged well.

The main reason I brought it up though is because most of the Xbox 360 fanboys are like "ZOMG PS3 sux and Wii sux cause we got XBLA." Which is kinda messed up because old games should not be a new system's main attraction.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Eh, I just think it's too simplistic to be fun now. It had some good ideas, but it feels incredibly generic and it simply hasn't aged well.

The main reason I brought it up though is because most of the Xbox 360 fanboys are like "ZOMG PS3 sux and Wii sux cause we got XBLA." Which is kinda messed up because old games should not be a new system's main attraction.[/QUOTE]

I don't know about you, but you were the one to bring Doom into this topic.

BTW I think the people saying X06 owned all the announcements of TGS in 2 hours is simply because 2 new Halo games were announced on top of Halo 3. That's like Kojima announcing MGS4 for the first time or a brand new Zelda game being announced. Then you add in all the other big announcements at X06 like Bioshock exclusive (timed or not), a trailer of in-game Assassins Creed (which was thought to be a PS3 timed exclusive), and all the other games. You can see why it made a bigger impact. And no matter how much you hate or like Halo you cannot deny its one of the bigger forces in gaming over here in the States (sales-wise).
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It was three days and no, X06 didn't level TGS in two hours.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it did.

P.S. solid snake - you are ignorant and a moron. get a brain.
 
[quote name='solid snake']hehe and the ps3 deserves it i am so glad i didnt buy a 360.:applause: ;)

i see all the 360 cryboys are whinning[/QUOTE]
Nope all of us 360 "owners" are too busy playing games ;)
*Notice I didn't use the f word.
 
[quote name='zewone']Yeah it did.

P.S. solid snake - you are ignorant and a moron. get a brain.[/quote]

I ate it.
 
Philosophical question: If money was no object, would you not want to own a 360, a PS3, and a Wii? (If you frequent gaming forums and you don't answer Yes to this question, then I don't understand you).
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Of course, the PS3 was pretty much the big thing that was there.[/QUOTE]

M$ & Nintendo already had (or was going to have) there own big shows, so that explains their almost non-existance at the show. Sony "won" what was easily one of the worst TGS's of all time. Mad props to Sony, but this doesn't really change much at all.
 
[quote name='getmyrunon']Philosophical question: If money was no object, would you not want to own a 360, a PS3, and a Wii? (If you frequent gaming forums and you don't answer Yes to this question, then I don't understand you).[/quote]

If money wasnt an issue, I would be full when I went to restaurants.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Eh, I just think it's too simplistic to be fun now. It had some good ideas, but it feels incredibly generic and it simply hasn't aged well.[/quote]After reading this, I asked myself if I would pimp ZDaemon in yet another thread. And I said yes. So play Doom on ZDaemon and tell me it isn't fun.
 
[quote name='zewone']Yeah it did.

P.S. solid snake - you are ignorant and a moron. get a brain.[/quote]
It's big news if you enjoy MS's flavor of games. There wasn't much of anything that was amazing and shocking.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It's big news if you enjoy MS's flavor of games. There wasn't much of anything that was amazing and shocking.[/QUOTE]
What was amazing or shocking at TGS if you don't like Sony's flavor of games?
 
[quote name='zewone']What was amazing or shocking at TGS if you don't like Sony's flavor of games?[/QUOTE]

That's the thing though -- Sony had all the bases covered at TGS so they don't have a distinct flavor. MS has a couple genres they actually try with on the 360 but if you aren't into FPSes or PC ports, then there's really nothing worth caring about at X06.
 
[quote name='zewone']What was amazing or shocking at TGS if you don't like Sony's flavor of games?[/quote]
The thing is that there were many more consoles and games to check out at TGS, even MS was there, so there was plenty to look at depending on your tastes. X06 is an MS event, obviously, so if they aren't your thing it's not going to be that much of an interesting show.
 
I haven't fully followed the tgs or x06, but the only thing msft has lacked from what I have seen is a fighter. They had a couple rpg's (blue dragoon, lost odesyy, mass effect). A lot of fps that don't really need to be mentioned. A platformer in sonic and banjoo, a kids game in viva pinata. Several racing games (foza 2, pgr 4) a horror type game in bioshock.

If square stops making there big guns exclusive to sony, I really don't see much difference between sony and msft game wise.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']That's the thing though -- Sony had all the bases covered at TGS so they don't have a distinct flavor. MS has a couple genres they actually try with on the 360 but if you aren't into FPSes or PC ports, then there's really nothing worth caring about at X06.[/QUOTE]
Blue Dragon
Assassin's Creed
Halo Wars
Lost Odessy
Splinter Cell: DA
Guitar Hero 2
Sonic
Lost Planet

Which of those are FPSs or PC ports?
 
[quote name='zewone']Blue Dragon
Assassin's Creed
Halo Wars
Lost Odessy
Splinter Cell: DA
Guitar Hero 2
Sonic
Lost Planet

Which of those are FPSs or PC ports?[/QUOTE]

Way to list a very small number of games so that you can avoid stuff that fits into those categories... but you missed Splinter Cell DA. And you shouldn't count Assassin's Creed, Guitar Hero 2, or Sonic either because those are multiplatform, but whatever.

Yeah, there's going to be exceptions, but the vast majority of the stuff coming out on the system is still FPSes and PC ports. The list you provided is a nearly comprehensive list of the games that don't fit that criteria which is pathetic.
 
Why don't you make a list of games shown at the show that does fit into the FPS or PC port categories and we'll see who's list is larger?

So, if a game is multi-platform then it doesn't count as being available on the system? :roll:

No one said anything about exclusives.

How did I miss Splinter Cell? It's neither a FPS or a PC port.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Way to list a very small number of games so that you can avoid stuff that fits into those categories... but you missed Splinter Cell DA. And you shouldn't count Assassin's Creed, Guitar Hero 2, or Sonic either because those are multiplatform, but whatever.

Yeah, there's going to be exceptions, but the vast majority of the stuff coming out on the system is still FPSes and PC ports. The list you provided is a nearly comprehensive list of the games that don't fit that criteria which is pathetic.[/quote]In that case, post every FPS, PC port, and all the rest. Criticize if you want, but surely you aren't going to do any better.
 
[quote name='zewone']Blue Dragon
Assassin's Creed
Halo Wars
Lost Odessy
Splinter Cell: DA
Guitar Hero 2
Sonic
Lost Planet

Which of those are FPSs or PC ports?[/QUOTE]

This is mostly directed towards Chacrana:

Don't forget to add Mass Effect (Third-person RPG), Gears of War (Third-person action/adventure), New Halo property by Peter Jackson (not FPS and not PC port), Fable 2 (going by the first its a third-person action RPG), New property by Peter Jackson that's exclusive to 360, DOAX 2 (Volleyball/Wave Race type of game), Alan Wake (third-person something), PGR4 (racing game), Forza 2 (racing game), Marvel Universe (MMO game), Kane and Lynch (looks like third-person action game), Banjo (platformer), Viva Pinata (animal crossing/sims type game), Next Splinter Cell after SC: DA (exclusive to 360), etc. There was a lot shown. Like someone said earlier the only game type that wasn't really covered was Fighting games.

If you want to get into games not shown at the show then heres a bigger list:

Culdcept (boardgame), Trusty Bell (RPG), 4 Team Ninja games (Project Progressive, Code Chronus, and two others that Itagaki has yet to reveal), Resident Evil 5 (third-person action/adventure), Armored Core IV (third-person action game), Japanese RPG that they showed a still shot for and can't recall the name, KUF (action RPG), etc. I just threw in more Japanese titles since it seems that's where your interests lie.

It really is kind of foolish to say stuff like 360 only has PC ports and FPS games. But you can just keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.
 
Microsoft "won" for a few reasons. First off, the big talk about PS3 isn't so much the games, it's that HDMI is back in all systems (something that should have never been taken out in the first place).

Secondly, X06 had quite a few "new" announcements in the Marvel MMO, Halo Wars, and Banjo Kazooie 3. There was no new PS3 Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, or other big announcement so to speak. The general impression that I heard coming out of 1up (not out of the people on 1up trying to put a positive spin on things on all things Sony) was that Sony was missing the "Jobs moment", the one big surprise. Instead... Afrika. The best PS3 demoes were discovered rather then being featured. That's a problem.

Third, variety. The big knock against the 360 has always been the lack of variety on the system. Microsoft seems to have understood this as Guitar Hero 2, a plethora of RPGs, Banjo Kazooie 3, Alan Wake, and Halo Wars have given a brand new life to the system. In the meantime, they still are supporting their three powerhouse genres (FPSes, Sports, Racing) with a bunch of solid titles.

The big knocks against Sony still stand.

It's not all gloom and doom for Sony, but you've got to be smoking some pretty strong shit to think that Tokyo Game Show was a stronger showing with the PS3 then X06 was for the 360.
 
blah blah blah 1UP/EGM loves sony, they always show bias towards them, because they (and many publishers pushing PS3) are a big advertising force. EGM is by far my favorite gaming mag, but none of them are without bias. They're all just advertisement books with advertisments in them. Get over it. Remember how last year at this time, EGM was soooo skeptical about the 360 and all the games that were "the same"? Where's that criticism now? Where's that "journalistic edge" and "hard hitting questions" at now? Sony's the big dog in the industry, of course they get praised.
 
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