Am I the only person that doesn't really care for Nirvana?

Kayden

Kayden

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No, not spiritual enlightenment and totally oneness with the universe, but the grunge band.

The more I hear them the more it sounds like ratty voiced whining.

I like metal and rock, but Kurt's singing has a habit of making my ears bleed. I know their music is supposed to identify with the 'teen delima of human existance' but to me it just sounds like ... obnoxious second rate music. Not to bash the dead or anything... but why are they still so popular? Don't they have a new 3 cd collection coming out? Its what, 10 years after?
 
Hey, you too? Never thought they were anything special, never will. I always found it hilarious as to how people could look up to Kurt Cobain, as he was a heroin addict who killed himself. But whatever.

Their new song from a few years ago was good though. "You know you're right", I think it was called.
 
I like playing his songs on guitar, but until i find out what his lyrics mean, its preety much sucky

change that i like em
 
[quote name='Kayden']No, not spiritual enlightenment and totally oneness with the universe, but the grunge band.

The more I hear them the more it sounds like ratty voiced whining.

I like metal and rock, but Kurt's singing has a habit of making my ears bleed. I know their music is supposed to identify with the 'teen delima of human existance' but to me it just sounds like ... obnoxious second rate music. Not to bash the dead or anything... but why are they still so popular? Don't they have a new 3 cd collection coming out? Its what, 10 years after?[/QUOTE]

No you're not.

I'm gonna take a shot and guess that by the time you were listening to music, Kurt was already dead. People like the music they grew up with. I grew up listening to Nirvana.

We liked it because it was the opposite of everything the mean older brothers listened to. You can still see that today. I do not like Winger, Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, etc. My brother eats it up. Nirvana was the opposite, they broke ground with the new style. Much like punk to disco in the late 70's.
 
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I personally love Nirvana. Nevermind was the first CD I ever bought, and the first album I ever really liked. It's easy to overlook how influencial they were in getting us out of the slump of bland corporate rock coming out of the 80's and early 90's, because there's just so much good music out there right now from indie labels such as Saddle Creek. However, I really feel that the face of music would be different right now if they hadn't come along.
 
[quote name='fanskad']No you're not.

I'm gonna take a shot and guess that by the time you were listening to music, Kurt was already dead. People like the music they grew up with. I grew up listening to Nirvana.

We liked it because it was the opposite of everything the mean older brothers listened to. You can still see that today. I do not like Winger, Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, etc. My brother eats it up. Nirvana was the opposite, they broke ground with the new style. Much like punk to disco in the late 70's.[/QUOTE]

Nirvana basically ended 80s hair metal which IMO was a good thing. Then again Nirvana has led to most of the crap music we have nowadays.
 
Oh thank lord. I hate Nirvana like poison. Kurt Cobein is not a genius in any sense of the word. He made a "good" album (to most people I guess) and then killed himself. I mean hell, if Ricky Martin killed himself after Livin La whatever he probably would've been praised too!!! No sir....no sir
 
Grew up during their "phenomenon" and I still think they were just a bunch of miserable assholes who got lucky.
It's a tragedy he took his own life, as with anyone, very sad. They had a few songs I liked, but for the most part it just seemed like the generation x kids just needed someone to follow.

Then again, I don't understand the whole Elvis thing either so....
 
[quote name='saadman']Oh thank lord. I hate Nirvana like poison. Kurt Cobein is not a genius in any sense of the word. He made a "good" album (to most people I guess) and then killed himself. I mean hell, if Ricky Martin killed himself after Livin La whatever he probably would've been praised too!!! No sir....no sir[/QUOTE]

you're out of your mind.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Let's see you hate rap and find nirvana unsatisfying. Anything else? Or should we just get right to the stoning?[/QUOTE]

It all balances out when you consider I like boobies and enjoy tormenting the stupid. :lol:
 
[quote name='crazytalkx']Nirvana basically ended 80s hair metal which IMO was a good thing. Then again Nirvana has led to most of the crap music we have nowadays.[/QUOTE]

See, here is my dilemna with Nirvana. Nirvana is my favorite band of all itme, I don't listen to them much anymore, but when I was like 12 or 13 they really got me into music. The thing is, Nirvana ended the crap that was coming out at the time, but thye in turn lead to the crap that comes out today. They ended corporate rock, but little did Kurt know, he would ultimately lead to the birth of corporate rock for the new milennium. All of the current rock music today is an extension of Nirvana and other grunge bands of the time. So, while I loved Nirvana for what they did they ultimately created what they destroyed.
 
I can't stand 'em either, I cannot get myself to sit through Smells like Teen whatever, God knows I tried to like 'em but I can't.
 
They're not bad, but they're also not the "greatest rock band ever" as your crappy music channels make it out to be. Hell, there are way better grunge bands out there, like Silverchair, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, etc. Nirvana is just overrated.
 
Nirvana, just as a band I don't really care either way about. I don't love them, but I don't change the radio dial when they come on, either. IMO, Dave Grohl went out and made much better music with Foo Fighters.

I say "just as a band" because Kurt Kobain makes me angry. Killing yourself when you have a child...I just can't see why people would want to idolize someone who could do something like that.
 
I dont think they are the best band ever and are a bit overrated, but I can't deny that they were certainly the catalyst for a new era in rock music. Whether or not you or I thought it was deserved isn't the issue, it happens every so often with artists you may or may not like for each generation and each type of music. As for the lasting popularity, it goes hand in hand with what I just said. There's a fan base for the era and style of music that people grew up with. You could say the same about why do Elvis albums still sell? Why do Tupac albums sell? the Beatles and so forth...
 
[quote name='AdamInPlaidum']Nirvana, just as a band I don't really care either way about. I don't love them, but I don't change the radio dial when they come on, either. IMO, Dave Grohl went out and made much better music with Foo Fighters.

I say "just as a band" because Kurt Kobain makes me angry. Killing yourself when you have a child...I just can't see why people would want to idolize someone who could do something like that.[/QUOTE]

You basically summed up my feelings as well. Nirvana was OK, but I'm glad that Dave was able to create Foo Fighters. They are one of my all-time favorite bands, and I can't see my life without their great music.

Also, there is no reason to kill yourself. I can understand that Kobain was messed up pretty badly, but there are always places where you can get help. It's just sad...
 
[quote name='Saucy Jack']You basically summed up my feelings as well. Nirvana was OK, but I'm glad that Dave was able to create Foo Fighters. They are one of my all-time favorite bands, and I can't see my life without their great music.

Also, there is no reason to kill yourself. I can understand that Kobain was messed up pretty badly, but there are always places where you can get help. It's just sad...[/QUOTE]

You only yourself because you're nuts. It's not that he couldnt get help, it's that he was so nuts that he cracked. I pity him.
 
I hate Nirvana so so so so so so much. Them and the rest of that stupid Seattle grunge teen garbage killed my beloved '80s metal.

I hate that band, and that entire type of stupid, whiney, wah-wah-boo-hoo music. I'm really cheery and happy in natural disposition, so that kind of stuff is like fingernails on chalkboard to me. Doesn't speak to me at all.
 
never liked 'em, never will. their songs are just ok, not great. good tunes, bad lyrics. typical of a lot of bands that are popular, but I think suck.
 
I respect Nirvana's emphasis on individualism over materialism, which went against the grain of *every* metal band at the time.

At the same time, the ironic result was thousands of bands that took the route of "individuality" to the point of self-mockery. That's not Nirvana's fault, though.

Seeing Pat Smear on MTV was pretty surreal, and purely the responsibility of Nirvana.

Was Nirvana an amazing band, the greatest of all time? Not even close. Were they one of the most influential bands of the 90's? No one can argue that they were not.

myke.
 
Grunge wasn't really a revolutionary style of music, it was just a return to de-tuned guitar sound of the late 1960's Heavy-Metal sound. It was a knee-jerk reaction to peopel being fed up with hair metal.

The LA hair-metal scene was the "hard" alternative to the synth-laden New Wave scene in the 80's....by the time 1990 came around, Hair Metal wasn't even metal anymore, it was pop sung by guys in spandex.

See, white suburbanite kids weren't going to jump from Poison to Slayer, from Warrant to Sepultura......that was too much of a stretch. Grunge fit the bill nicely.

It was hard enough and depresing enough that people could get into it, having had their fill of guys with teased hair. But, it wasn't thrash....so pretty much everyone could get into it,

You didn't have to cross that line into "one of those black t-shirt wearing weirdos". The prom queen and the guys who fixed old camaros in high school both had copies of Nevermind on CD.

I liked the Seattle sound...for awhile.....but by that time MTV was already the great Satan, and MTV did was MTV always does...finds a trend and then rams it down your throat until they can find something else to sell you. I got tired of Grunge pretty quickly.........Nirvana especially...because the whole sound got played out fast.

I thought Nirvana had some good tunes.....but I have a copy of NEvermind and the followup that will never get played again because I'm so sick of those tracks, even 10 yeras after hearing them.

The only one I enjoy listening to still, though I never do, is the Unplugged session. If only because hearing Kurt's voice crack all over the place just sounds nice and unique, it sounds very honest. Probably their best work if you ask me.
 
I blame her

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I like Nirvana but I am the first one to say that "Nevermind" was the worst album in terms of production. Butch Vig (from the group "Garbage") was the producer of that album as well as L7's "The Bricks are Heavy" and Sonic Youth's "Dirty".

The problem with all those albums is that they sound too clean. The guitars sound muted and all the power is washed away. Things got better when they changed producers in "In Utero." It goes without saying that I think Butch Vig is a terrible producer.
 
Thank god!! I felt I was the only one who hated their music. I mean yes, they did start the grunge trend, but I am sick of people thinking they are the greatest band ever because Cobain put a fucking shot-gun in his mouth.
 
I have never, ever, liked Nirvana. Ever. And I hated how they were always pointed out as the "music of your generation" when I was in middle school. Bullshit. I never identified with them and never will.

Of course, it's worse not that some genius at the local classic rock station has the gall to put "Come as you Are" on their playlist.
 
[quote name='Jrunt20x']It's not that he couldnt get help, it's that he was so nuts that he cracked. I pity him.[/QUOTE]

Very true. I forgot to look at it this way. If you are sane, there are plenty of ways and places to get help. I guess when you finally lose it, and no one is there to get you help, it's over.
 
Although some people say they were the catlyst I can't agree with that but at the time MTV was budding into the the television circuit and they needed a band to replace the dieing hair bands of the 80's. Grunge music was taking a new course with the younger people and Nirvana just seemed to click with the times. I will agree that their are and were better bands than then at the time, and although I am not a big fan of their album I do enjoy listening to some of their unplugged songs. In terms of their popularity today you have to acknowledge Courtney Love whom has kept her name popping up in media and their lead singers early and violent departure. Same thing happened with Sublime whom seemed to gain popularity after a suicide, kind of a Van Gogh thing I think.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']I hate Nirvana so so so so so so much. Them and the rest of that stupid Seattle grunge teen garbage killed my beloved '80s metal.

I hate that band, and that entire type of stupid, whiney, wah-wah-boo-hoo music. I'm really cheery and happy in natural disposition, so that kind of stuff is like fingernails on chalkboard to me. Doesn't speak to me at all.[/QUOTE]

If I understand what you're saying, the Backstreet Boys are your thang.:cry:
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']I hate Nirvana so so so so so so much. Them and the rest of that stupid Seattle grunge teen garbage killed my beloved '80s metal.

I hate that band, and that entire type of stupid, whiney, wah-wah-boo-hoo music. I'm really cheery and happy in natural disposition, so that kind of stuff is like fingernails on chalkboard to me. Doesn't speak to me at all.[/QUOTE]

80s metal is cheery,happy and fits your natural disposition? :shock:
 
[quote name='supadupacheap']80s metal is cheery,happy and fits your natural disposition? :shock:[/QUOTE]
Perhaps I should have specified 80s party metal.

"Cheery" isn't exactly the right word, but most 80s metal isn't "Wah wah pity me wah wah teen wah," and you know it. My music doesn't have giddy...it just has to NOT be manic depressive garbage.

If I understand what you're saying, the Backstreet Boys are your thang.
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Wow, you're an idiot.
 
[quote name='Xevious']I like Nirvana but I am the first one to say that "Nevermind" was the worst album in terms of production. Butch Vig (from the group "Garbage") was the producer of that album as well as L7's "The Bricks are Heavy" and Sonic Youth's "Dirty".

The problem with all those albums is that they sound too clean. The guitars sound muted and all the power is washed away. Things got better when they changed producers in "In Utero." It goes without saying that I think Butch Vig is a terrible producer.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty interested, I never knew that about the producer. It does make sense though, Bricks are Heavy is easily L7's most polished record. Amazing how much difference a producer can make on an album.
 
Listen to Nirvana's MTV Unplugged album. If you don't like it, then you are dead inside.


However, I have always disliked the Nirvana being placed on the pedestal of grunge rock, when I think that Pearl Jam was not only right along side them in the creation, but overall a much more talented band, who is still writing great music today.
 
You know, I'll say this outright - I never cared for Nirvana. Sure I liked a few songs I heard ("Heart-Shaped Box" especially) but I just never cared much for Nirvana. However I won't deny that they did help the music scene at the time, and they have been an influence to many others.
 
[quote name='demomanTNA']You know, I'll say this outright - I never cared for Nirvana. Sure I liked a few songs I heard ("Black Hole Heart" especially) but I just never cared much for Nirvana. However I won't deny that they did help the music scene at the time, and they have been an influence to many others.[/QUOTE]

Yeah dude, only they never had a song called "Black Hole Heart." They had a song called "Heart-Shaped Box," and Soundgarden had "Black Hole Sun," but either way you get the dunce cap. :dunce:
 
[quote name='evilmregg']Yeah dude, only they never had a song called "Black Hole Heart." They had a song called "Heart-Shaped Box," and Soundgarden had "Black Hole Sun," but either way you get the dunce cap. :dunce:[/QUOTE]

I get the feeling he's thinking of Soundgarden. Therefore, HE LOVES TEH NIRVANA!!!
 
yeah nirvana the band is no good. where's the rising techno beat?

BTW I assume that you're not talking about Nirvana as "the culmination of the Buddhist pursuit of liberation" ;)
 
[quote name='neocisco']Nirvana was nothing special at all, just another band. They just happened to be in the right place at the right time.[/QUOTE]

Are you fucking kidding me? How is fucking Olympia, Washington the right place at any time? Just because you do not personally care for the style of a band doesn't mean they weren't good, it just means you don't like them. I mean, I hate the Dave Matthews Band, but I acknowledge that they're extremely talented. Kurt Cobain was a talented lyricist, and probably the single most sincere person in musical history.
 
[quote name='evilmregg']Are you fucking kidding me? How is fucking Olympia, Washington the right place at any time? Just because you do not personally care for the style of a band doesn't mean they weren't good, it just means you don't like them. I mean, I hate the Dave Matthews Band, but I acknowledge that they're extremely talented. Kurt Cobain was a talented lyricist, and probably the single most sincere person in musical history.[/QUOTE]

Cmon dude. Receipe for 90's success:

1. Move near seattle
2. Become tone-deaf through excessively loud music
3. Forget everything you know about personal hygene
4. Start using heroin
5. Start shopping at salvation army
6. Hook up with 2 or 3 semi-talented guitarists
7. Make MTV music videos with dudes "moshing"
8. Success!
 
[quote name='camoor']Cmon dude. Receipe for 90's success:

1. Move near seattle
2. Become tone-deaf through excessively loud music
3. Forget everything you know about personal hygene
4. Start using heroin
5. Start shopping at salvation army
6. Hook up with 2 or 3 semi-talented guitarists
7. Make MTV music videos with dudes "moshing"
8. Success![/QUOTE]

OK, true, but who set those trends? *ding* Nirvana. Every other "grunge" band was just riding the wave of their success. This happens with every major trend in rock music. After the success of the White Stripes, we saw bands like The Strokes and The Hives suddenly gaining popularity. After the first Interpol album there have been more "new new wave" bands than I can even keep track of (e.g. Franz Ferdinand, The Killers, etc.).

Was Nirvana the Greatest Rock Band of All Time? Hell no. That title will pretty much always go to Led Zeppelin. But they were the single most influential band of the 90's and at least deserve credit for that.
 
I think Nirvana deserves a lot of credit as one of the pioneers of grunge music. Grunge did not exist before Nirvana. Also Dave Grohl is easily one of the most talented musicians ever. Cobain wasn't a great guitar by any means but he wrote fantastic songs... just because something is easy to play doesn't mean its not good.
 
[quote name='onetrackmind']I think Nirvana deserves a lot of credit as one of the pioneers of grunge music. Grunge did not exist before Nirvana. Also Dave Grohl is easily one of the most talented musicians ever. Cobain wasn't a great guitar by any means but he wrote fantastic songs... just because something is easy to play doesn't mean its not good.[/QUOTE]

In that sain vein, I think one could argue that the best song in the world is one that strikes a chord (pun not intended) with the most people, not necessarily the most complex song musically.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']In that sain vein, I think one could argue that the best song in the world is one that strikes a chord (pun not intended) with the most people, not necessarily the most complex song musically.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely. Being technically proficient in a music instrument does not make a person a good songwriter. If technical proficiency were the chief criterion by which musicians were ultimately judged, Yngwie Malmsteen would be immensely popular and the world would be a cold, dark place incdeed. Kurt Cobain was by no means a proficient guitarist. Hell, I've only had a couple years worth of lessons and I'm a better guitarist than he was, but damn if he wasn't a terrific song writer and performer. I still get chills every time I listen to the Unplugged album.
 
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