[quote name='renique46']Next Season they really need to stop the whole Bam Zombie out of nowhere perk, not that i care about patricia that out of nowhere football tackle had me :lol:[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's really lame. NOONE else saw that zombie as they ran past it. Also, why did they wait that long to leave when they were already overrun, I know Lori's being a pain in the ass about Carl (OK, it's her kid, I get it, but obviously he's gone from the house so why not leave too?) Plus Herschel's around the corner with only zombies coming from in front at a distance. The character/zombie placements were really off it seems. Maybe more came from a different side of the farm, but it wasn't clear at all.
[quote name='renique46']Lori/carl need to die
This bitch had the nerve to get mad/shun rick for killing someone that tried to rape her and because their son put him down that he didnt even know was there.

outta here Lori[/QUOTE]To be fair she didn't know Rick didn't know zombieShane was behind him, BUT this is such a problem in tv/movie writing. Who the hell leads an admission with the end result. People tell the story and give their reasons before dropping the bombshell. According to Kirkman, she's really mad at herself not him, but it all played out poorly.
[quote name='SEH']My thoughts exactly. I was really hoping she'd bite it in those last 10 minutes. I seriously cant stand her. Carl also being a pussy and crying when Rick said he killed Shane irritated me too. There's no way in hell they can follow the comics because this kid is way too much of a sissy to play the Carl portrayed in the comics.[/QUOTE]I'm not a big fan of the actor, but he's playing a CHILD, not a teenage psychotic. He seems to be maybe about ten years old, the actor is twelve. Shane has been in his life since the beginning, stepped in as a father figure when his own dad went missing and he just found out that very dad was the one who killed him and he has no idea of what was going on and why it had to happen. I hear demented stuff happens in the jail so maybe that's what pushes Carl over, although they really should have started with him being a little older.
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Yup, and that's one of my biggest problems with the show. People react to things in ways that are ridiculous.
Like that kid they saved. Why did they think he had such a strong tie to his old group? I didn't get the impression that the kid gave two shits about what group he was with, he just didn't want to be alone. Did anyone even think about asking him that? No, they just assumed that he did and decided to torture and kill him. Who would really act like that? It's completely ridiculous and I don't get why this show has such a problem with that. The books didn't have that problem...[/QUOTE]I thought the same thing about Randall, but I can see how paranoia and survival could cloud your thinking, but what if they treated him nice, got to know him while he healed and see? I mean how much loyalty could he have to the group that left him to die?
[quote name='Stoic Person Eater']How about Herschthal using the Unlimited Ammo code when holding off the farm. Nice touch. Over 40 shots without reloading.[/QUOTE]That was ridiculous. He fired too many shots every time he was on camera, even assuming he had freshly reloaded while off camera, but that's all too common in tv and movies, too. I thought he was gonna bite it on the reload as I figured he'd go down swinging, but the creators really like his character and wanted to keep him going for a while. He was originally supposed to be killed by an escaped Randall until a last minute rewrite. Also, Jimmy, not a cow, originally was going to be found by Dale.
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Amazing how everyone was so quick to seemingly turn on Rick wtf?
Carol, really Carol? Can't trust Rick? WTF? I mean he only spent half the time on the farm along with Daryl looking for your stupid ass daughter (whom by the way would still be alive if she just would have listened to Rick in the first place) for weeks yet because he kept something secret for the good of the group, he somehow cant be trusted?
[/QUOTE]People sure turned too fast, I mean I know they want to find a safe place to hole up, but sitting there with no gas what are they to do? And once again Rick's unveiling of Jenner's reveal was typical tv writing crap. Why not lead with "I didn't want to scare people unnecessarily cause Jenner was batshit crazy, but he told me ... and I wanted to be sure first." And on the Carol thing while I agree with you, she blamed Rick for her daughter getting lost because he left her alone.
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The herd magically appearing explanation was borderline. Honesty? 200 zombies followed a heli 20 miles (apparently the world was completely silent the entire trip) and happened to be 10 ft away when they heard a gunshot? I will buy it because I want to buy it not because it makes that much sense.
Another thing, the "exciting part" was kinda meh to me for this reason and this reason alone. You either had people head shotting mofos like they were handing out aimbots with dinner or simply throwing themselves into zombies like the leaves of a freshly raked lawn. There was no in-between. Jimmy now owns the award for the pussiest of pussy-like deaths in any show ever. He headshotted 8 zombies and then stood up and walk into 5 of them, through a door he could of easily barricaded. And by barricaded I mean locked...and by locked I mean simply close the door...because it was apparently wide open. Then the one girl had 3 zombies just appear next to her and start eating.
Not really trying to rip it apart but come one...they were driving around headshotting zeds...
with shotguns! At that point anything is a weapon...might as well be throwing those sharp cocktail toothpicks with your crazy aim. It took away a lot of the drama.
Plus, they didnt have the balls to kill of a real character. You set up this finale for the entire season and it result in the deaths of 2 people who have a combined 10 min of screen time for the season. Lori squeezes 10 min out of a 1 min scene on the regular.."WHERES MY SON....WHERES MY SON....HES NOT IN THE GARAGE!!! NOES!!!" As a black man...you have permission to kill T-Dawg, he is worthless.
The other thing, how did they "set up" the prison? Although I am super excited for them to get there I am not letting that blur what they did....panning to a computer generated prison for 5 seconds , there is a near limitless number of ways to set up the prison..that was the easiest and by far the laziest.
[/QUOTE]At least they explained the herd. It's a pretty big stretch, although I don't know how many distractions you really think there would be on the way there and they were more like 900 feet away, but my question is would they not lose interest eventually. They had to have walked for several days on a mission.
Jimmy's death was pretty lame. It was one of those flimsy ass folding doors that doesn't really lock and hence is a big problem, but why did he walk back there? I thought he'd stop, they'd jump on and bang the roof and say let's go and he'd drive off, not jump up and stand by the door waiting to get eaten.
The marksmanship of these people is truly earned. Remember when they were target practicing and everyone complained, well it prepared them for this. Seriously, WTF??? Constant headshots from moving vehicles ON FARMLAND, that shit's not smooth in the slightest. It would be constant bumps making any kind of shot impossible. The plan sucked ass from the get go, but they should have pulled up at a decent distance, got out and shot standing from the door until zombies got closer, get in, back up and do it again. Driving back and forth was ridiculous. Also, judging by the holes left behind, the shotties seem to be loaded with slugs and not buckshot so precise headshots from a fair distance would be much more possible, just not like that.
I still like the episode a lot, but some of the little flaws and tv writing moments just irk me.