Anyone else spooked by the recent terror alerts?
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its definitely scary....but dont let those bastards ruin your life by non-stop worrying
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i'm not really spooked about it cause i live in VA. but that really sucks that the building you are supposed to be working in soon is a terrorist threat.
That is the downside of being in one of the nation's most glamorous locations. The high value targets from a terror perspective are those that will create the best effect on a news broadcast as opposed to those that would be chosen as military objectives.
For most people all you can do is acknowledge it and go through life. People complain about DHS issueing these alerts but they're in a damned if you do, damned if you don't position. They also have to weigh the possibility of a suspect exposing himself only if he thinks there is no awareness by the authorities. No matter what they do if they're in for criticism.
For most people all you can do is acknowledge it and go through life. People complain about DHS issueing these alerts but they're in a damned if you do, damned if you don't position. They also have to weigh the possibility of a suspect exposing himself only if he thinks there is no awareness by the authorities. No matter what they do if they're in for criticism.
[quote name='slidecage']most missle bases r under corn feilds DOH lol[/quote]
Those are targets for the people we're dealing with today. They aren't dealing in conventional warfare because that would be utterly hopeless. You cannot take out seriously dug in missile base, what you refer to would only be ICBMs for nuclear strikes, without a sunstantial missile and payload capability of your own. That would be better used against any urban center with high population density.
This isn't about winning a military victory against us. They simply haven't the capability. The victories here are emotional. If a strike causes Western forces to withdraw and allow the fascist brand of Islam to take control of a major chunk of the world, that is their victory condition. If the strike occurs but only drives us to be more determined in wiping out that brand of thinking they've lost. They've become accustomed to dealing with soft Westerners who turn tail and run at the first encounter with a ruthless foe despite overwhelmingly great military capacity. Bin Laden's entire strategy is predicated on that expected behavior.
Those are targets for the people we're dealing with today. They aren't dealing in conventional warfare because that would be utterly hopeless. You cannot take out seriously dug in missile base, what you refer to would only be ICBMs for nuclear strikes, without a sunstantial missile and payload capability of your own. That would be better used against any urban center with high population density.
This isn't about winning a military victory against us. They simply haven't the capability. The victories here are emotional. If a strike causes Western forces to withdraw and allow the fascist brand of Islam to take control of a major chunk of the world, that is their victory condition. If the strike occurs but only drives us to be more determined in wiping out that brand of thinking they've lost. They've become accustomed to dealing with soft Westerners who turn tail and run at the first encounter with a ruthless foe despite overwhelmingly great military capacity. Bin Laden's entire strategy is predicated on that expected behavior.
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Terror Reports can kiss my ass, its just a ploy to mess with ya. I really wouldnt want to know about it. I should be able to live my life in peach without an aqua checkered clown terror alert.
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THe unfortunate things is, the alerts seem to be pointless. They've raised them a lot and dropped them in the past 2 years, yet nothing else has happened in the us. So they've cryed wolf quite a few times, so people don't take them too seriously, and unless the actually raise the alert and something does happen, they don't prove their effectivness. Damned if you do damned if you don't
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']Terror Reports can kiss my ass, its just a ploy to mess with ya. I really wouldnt want to know about it. I should be able to live my life in peach without an aqua checkered clown terror alert.[/quote]
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...
Another big part of the problem is they cannot discuss their successes if they're still following a string of contacts back to their source. Stopping one small group of bozos with some ammonium nitrate is important but you don't announce it if you want your enemy to keep making the same mistakes in your favor.
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[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']Terror Reports can kiss my ass, its just a ploy to mess with ya. I really wouldnt want to know about it. I should be able to live my life in peach without an aqua checkered clown terror alert.[/quote]
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...[/quote]
If something is going to happen, well its going to happen, and most likely u will not have anything to do with the outcome. Live your life and enjoy it, though your life maybe in danger at one point or another, living in fear your whole life seems pointless. Might as well move to Nebraska and live in a hut in the woods if you want to be perfectly safe.
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...[/quote]
If something is going to happen, well its going to happen, and most likely u will not have anything to do with the outcome. Live your life and enjoy it, though your life maybe in danger at one point or another, living in fear your whole life seems pointless. Might as well move to Nebraska and live in a hut in the woods if you want to be perfectly safe.
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[quote name='pfunkpearl']THe unfortunate things is, the alerts seem to be pointless. They've raised them a lot and dropped them in the past 2 years, yet nothing else has happened in the us. So they've cryed wolf quite a few times, so people don't take them too seriously, and unless the actually raise the alert and something does happen, they don't prove their effectivness. Damned if you do damned if you don't[/quote]
Not sure I agree with this assessment. So, what you're saying is that the only way to prove their worth is to raise the alert to a higher level and then have something happen? Then we can say, "See there, we told you there was a threat! We didn't stop it, but we sure knew about it!!".
I'm not saying this is the case, but isn't it possible that the alerts/raising the threat level may discourage the event or make the terrorists wait for the element of suprise. I think I speak for most when I say that I would rather them raise the threat level and have NOTHING happen. Crying wolf. Maybe, but I'll take it anyday over another attack!
Not sure I agree with this assessment. So, what you're saying is that the only way to prove their worth is to raise the alert to a higher level and then have something happen? Then we can say, "See there, we told you there was a threat! We didn't stop it, but we sure knew about it!!".
I'm not saying this is the case, but isn't it possible that the alerts/raising the threat level may discourage the event or make the terrorists wait for the element of suprise. I think I speak for most when I say that I would rather them raise the threat level and have NOTHING happen. Crying wolf. Maybe, but I'll take it anyday over another attack!
[quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='javeryh'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']Terror Reports can kiss my ass, its just a ploy to mess with ya. I really wouldnt want to know about it. I should be able to live my life in peach without an aqua checkered clown terror alert.[/quote]
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...[/quote]
If something is going to happen, well its going to happen, and most likely u will not have anything to do with the outcome. Live your life and enjoy it, though your life maybe in danger at one point or another, living in fear your whole life seems pointless. Might as well move to Nebraska and live in a hut in the woods if you want to be perfectly safe.[/quote]
I agree with you in theory but it's easy to say that when you are not located in NYC... and you can still get eaten by a bear in the woods of Nebraska, I think...
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...[/quote]
If something is going to happen, well its going to happen, and most likely u will not have anything to do with the outcome. Live your life and enjoy it, though your life maybe in danger at one point or another, living in fear your whole life seems pointless. Might as well move to Nebraska and live in a hut in the woods if you want to be perfectly safe.[/quote]
I agree with you in theory but it's easy to say that when you are not located in NYC... and you can still get eaten by a bear in the woods of Nebraska, I think...
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[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='javeryh'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']Terror Reports can kiss my ass, its just a ploy to mess with ya. I really wouldnt want to know about it. I should be able to live my life in peach without an aqua checkered clown terror alert.[/quote]
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...[/quote]
If something is going to happen, well its going to happen, and most likely u will not have anything to do with the outcome. Live your life and enjoy it, though your life maybe in danger at one point or another, living in fear your whole life seems pointless. Might as well move to Nebraska and live in a hut in the woods if you want to be perfectly safe.[/quote]
I agree with you in theory but it's easy to say that when you are not located in NYC... and you can still get eaten by a bear in the woods of Nebraska, I think...[/quote]
You are prob more likely to get killed by a cab then be involved in a terrorist attack. Especially living in NY.
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...[/quote]
If something is going to happen, well its going to happen, and most likely u will not have anything to do with the outcome. Live your life and enjoy it, though your life maybe in danger at one point or another, living in fear your whole life seems pointless. Might as well move to Nebraska and live in a hut in the woods if you want to be perfectly safe.[/quote]
I agree with you in theory but it's easy to say that when you are not located in NYC... and you can still get eaten by a bear in the woods of Nebraska, I think...
[/quote]You are prob more likely to get killed by a cab then be involved in a terrorist attack. Especially living in NY.
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[quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='javeryh'][quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='javeryh'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']Terror Reports can kiss my ass, its just a ploy to mess with ya. I really wouldnt want to know about it. I should be able to live my life in peach without an aqua checkered clown terror alert.[/quote]
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...[/quote]
If something is going to happen, well its going to happen, and most likely u will not have anything to do with the outcome. Live your life and enjoy it, though your life maybe in danger at one point or another, living in fear your whole life seems pointless. Might as well move to Nebraska and live in a hut in the woods if you want to be perfectly safe.[/quote]
I agree with you in theory but it's easy to say that when you are not located in NYC... and you can still get eaten by a bear in the woods of Nebraska, I think...[/quote]
You are prob more likely to get killed by a cab then be involved in a terrorist attack. Especially living in NY.[/quote]
What about a "Terrotist cab"?
Even though the alerts are discomforting, I still want to know if something's up - that way I can be more aware of my surroundings and be prepared to run or whatever I need to do if and when something happens...[/quote]
If something is going to happen, well its going to happen, and most likely u will not have anything to do with the outcome. Live your life and enjoy it, though your life maybe in danger at one point or another, living in fear your whole life seems pointless. Might as well move to Nebraska and live in a hut in the woods if you want to be perfectly safe.[/quote]
I agree with you in theory but it's easy to say that when you are not located in NYC... and you can still get eaten by a bear in the woods of Nebraska, I think...
[/quote]You are prob more likely to get killed by a cab then be involved in a terrorist attack. Especially living in NY.[/quote]
What about a "Terrotist cab"?
mario23air
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The whole terror alert color system is stupid. I guess the "war on terror" is a failure because we're still not safe.
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[qote="Michaellvortega"]
What about a "Terrotist cab"?[/quote]
haha, where's herbie the love bug when u need him
What about a "Terrotist cab"?[/quote]
haha, where's herbie the love bug when u need him
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Seeing as though I work 4 blocks away from the Citigroup building i'm disconcerted. Seeing that we are supposed to move to across the street from the building right during the republican convention, well my nerves are slightly rattled to say the least. Anybody find doom 3 yet in nYC?? 
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The "War on Terror" has made the terrorist angry, inturn making them hate us even more. That and the fact that, if I want to pack up my car with some nitro and ram it into my government building, can they relly stop me? I think not. So no matter what, alert or no alert, people still do what the hell they want and nobody can stop them.
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Since 9/11 I always bring a change of clothes and 2 gas masks with me wherever I go
[quote name='zombieman']The "War on Terror" has made the terrorist angry, inturn making them hate us even more. That and the fact that, if I want to pack up my car with some nitro and ram it into my government building, can they relly stop me? I think not. So no matter what, alert or no alert, people still do what the hell they want and nobody can stop them.[/quote]
Ah yes, because the terrorists were so calm previously.
Does the concept of logic appear in schools today outside of CS courses?
Ah yes, because the terrorists were so calm previously.
Does the concept of logic appear in schools today outside of CS courses?
[quote name='mario23air']The whole terror alert color system is stupid. I guess the "war on terror" is a failure because we're still not safe.[/quote]
We're safer than we were a year ago. And truth be known, the government can't track what every person does in the United States, so if you REALLY wanted to be safe, you would surrender all of your rights as a human being and let the government monitor you to the extent of something like what was written in Orwell's 1984.
I think the war on terror is bullshit, but don't knock on the fact that people are trying their best to protect the people here.
We're safer than we were a year ago. And truth be known, the government can't track what every person does in the United States, so if you REALLY wanted to be safe, you would surrender all of your rights as a human being and let the government monitor you to the extent of something like what was written in Orwell's 1984.
I think the war on terror is bullshit, but don't knock on the fact that people are trying their best to protect the people here.
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