CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ


QDizzle said:
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Bani Your English is fluent bro I'm jealous what was that app u told me to get btw?
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Duolingo was the app's name. Yeah I sounded like Brad Pitt... but in this role


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Also I sent you a message earlier but if you are going to buy DB XV put me on your timeshare list.

 
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I love that Rai keeps using cross buys as an example.  I have only ever had 2 accounts stolen, one of the first ones I was in, and a cross buy account.  In some ways I am happy that PS4 only has one resell spot because I don't have to worry about it getting stolen. 

 
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A little something to lighten the mood this morning. And with that said I'm sitll looking for a timeshare.
 
Selling a phantom of Guilty Gear Xrd PS3 ver. w/ Elphelt Valentine & Leo Whitefang DLC HK PSN for $20. PM me, if you're interested. This is the PS3 version.

 
breakfuss said:
A little something to lighten the mood this morning. And with that said I'm sitll looking for a timeshare.
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At this point I'm pretty certain you'll have to be put on a waiting list from one of the 2-3 people that will be timesharing it. Look through the last several pages and you should see who will have it. :)

 
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South Park: The Stick of Truth    $15+ (3.6GB)
 
$5
1.rpg
2.menewbe
 
$2.50
1.Rolandino1

2.derkasan

Selling:

PS4

---InFamous second son Phantom $10

(includes:Cole's Legacy,Cole's Jacket,EXIST,JOS,Penny Arcade,iam8bit) 21.80GB SOLD

---The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Phantom $7 (includes: electro proof suit) 8.87GB

---The Last of Us Phantom $7 40.6GB  SOLD

PS3

The last of us Phantom $4 27GB

Resident Evil Revelations Phantom $3.50 11.3GB

 
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What is the community consensus on selling phantoms in this situation? 

I have quite a few ps3 resells that can be phantomed, but they are co-owned with another user here. Should we be in contact with one another in selling off phantoms? Or is it just a 'whoever does it, does it' kind of thing?

I ask this because I notice someone selling phantoms of accounts that I own a resell to without communicating with me at all. I would AT LEAST hope he tells me if/when he changes the password.

 
@raiborg (and p much everyone else should read this wall of text as well)


He's merely saying that offering locked slots promotes practices that should not be allowed because it's a situation where a cheapskate preys on the poor to get a game for a significant discount. Naturally that's going to tick people off that play by the rules.

All parties in the group benefit at the time (one far more than the other two), but any future resell owner isn't seeing any benefit for the past/current risk on that account due to a locked spot. A future purchaser of that resell slot doesn't fully own the account they paid for. And if the new owner changes the pass (as all ps4 resell owners should when they buy a resell due to one active slot) then the locked spot bitches they lost access to something they paid for and demand payment. And when you refuse payment, nobody knows how to handle the situation. Do we screw over the guy who properly paid for the locked slot, or do we screw over the guy who just paid for a slot that he didn’t know had a locked slot attached and expected full control of the acct? If we demand the buyer of the resell be refunded for misinformation and the seller truly didn’t know, how do we punish them if they refuse to refund? Simple answer is that we can’t, so why bother allowing something we can’t enforce once problems arise?

You're forced to accept the risk without getting any discount bc of said risk, potentially on any ps4 resell you attempt to purchase, so long as we allow locked spots. The inital group is getting a game cheaper at the expense of future buyers of that resell. Total bs considering we continue to exist based on the ability to resell past games. It's incredibly hard to sell accts with locked slots on them, so I assume most ppl would just lie about it and feign ignorance since they can’t be punished after the fact and they already have the buyers money. If you do this, you’re a cheap shithead and you should feel bad.

Here's another great example of why we shouldn't allow them. Raiborg, you always seem to have new releases to timeshare (how? we never see you join groups? but i digress..) You could easily just be using locked spots yourself and then renting out the resell slot. You would still get to play the game using the locked spot while other people play on the resell slot and pay off your expenses. That's gaming the system in a really shitty way. If you're doing $2.50/wk rentals, within a month you would have paid what a phantom did for that share, still played the game during that month, and can further timeshare it/sell it outright on top of continuing to play it on either the resell or locked slots. There's no incentive to buy a phantom in this regard if we allow locked slots. Just shell out $10 more and you’ll benefit far more. If you take away the incentive for phantoms, less and less groups get filled and people stop coming here as a result. You have more people repeatedly asking for resells outside of groups and the topic becomes unbrowsable.

Also, why else would you buy a game on day one and not play it and then rent it out on day one for so cheap that it would take months to make your money back? If you truly were doing it to benefit the community those games would be in the library rented out for free. You refuse to give a solid answer to this anytime it's brought up. QD is exempt from this bc I can see that he's not playing the games he's renting out since he's on my FL. His rates are also more than double. I don’t exactly know his motivations either, but I can say for sure they’re not sketchy. Now while you could be telling the truth, there's no proof in front of us since nobody knows your PSN because you operate from the shadows. My point is If it's hard for me to trust a thread vet with stuff like this, imagine how hard it is to trust semi-regulars or newbs


Took me an hour to type out and edit. Hopefully someone agrees with it. There's plenty of reasons why locked spots should be forbidden.
 
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laundrymatt said:
I have quite a few ps3 resells that can be phantomed, but they are co-owned with another user here. Should we be in contact with one another in selling off phantoms? Or is it just a 'whoever does it, does it' kind of thing?

I ask this because I notice someone selling phantoms of accounts that I own a resell to without communicating with me at all. I would AT LEAST hope he tells me if/when he changes the password.
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You need the other owner's permission to sell phantoms. The ideal case is you both sell off phantoms at the same time.

If the other resell is selling regular phantoms without your permission or knowledge, it's likely theft. I'll PM you.

 
Pravado said:
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I can't speak for QD but I can say for myself the reason I have games for rent right away is because my backlog is stupid long and I know I won't play it on day 1. And if anyone doubts I know I have a few of you (maybe even Prav?) on my friends list.

 
I'll respond to the rest of your post later, but for now:

Pravado said:
Raiborg, you always seem to have new releases to timeshare (how? we never see you join groups? but i digress..)
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Ohhhhhhh shit, we have a winner :whee:

I've been holding the contest for a few months now. I was beginning to think no one would ever win it.

I am about to send you your prize, but one thing:


Pravado said:
You refuse to give a solid answer to this anytime it's brought up.
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I don't recall it ever being brought up. If someone other than you did it bring it up, let me know so I can send them the credit instead.

 
QDizzle said:
Convince wpress how awesome the collectibles would be in his trophy room and u may have yourself a group.
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the figures like amiibos are somewhat well made so I'm tempted to get it, but do you need the "base" to put the figures right? I suppose it's sold separately?

 
Please don’t send a bomb to my inbox

Also please don't mistake my claims of "there's a potential for this to be true about someone" to be "I'm saying this is factually true" - I merely meant that anything is possible. In no way do I believe in guilty until proven innocent. do i think raiborg is doing what i mentioned? As mysterious as he is sometimes, probably not. (However I do strongly desire to know why people would timeshare games that cheap on day one instead of just waiting to buy them, just curious as to the logic). i merely said that shady situation is a possibility that people should be aware of since we were discussing locked spots potentially becoming a welcomed "thing". I could have used anyone as an example, raiborg was just the one taking the opposing position so it was the example I used.

And don't confuse basic timesharing with what I mentioned above, they are not one in the same. In one case you're legit renting out a game and not playing it, which is how it would work if you were doing it physically. In the other case you're manipulating the system to pay less/profit while retaining rights to play the game. I can tolerate someone wanting to get their game cheaper and timesharing it out to do so. What I can't tolerate is someone wanting to get their game cheaper and still feel entitled to play the game during the time they're renting it out.

And some people probably just think “who cares if that guy is renting out a game and playing it himself it doesn’t affect me” - You’re entitled to your opinion, I have no qualms with this perspective, but when that day comes when you buy a resell and find out someone else is linked to that acct, you're gonna be pissed and a situation’s gonna arise, and I'm gonna refer you back to this post.

Again, if you *really* need that extra $5 you’d get from a locked spot, just friggin timeshare the game
 
Will2 where are them B+H's @ :( we need some.... No wait your whole bingo book.

Lashley Estonian beast has been posting a group all day man I think his group just got filled. pM him and verify.
 
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For Sale (Resells)

$2 - Ace Combat Assault Horizon

$4 - Injustice Gods Among Us (PS4)
$5 - XCOM Enemy Within

$7 - Call of Duty Ghosts Season Pass with all 4 DLCs (PS3)

For Sale (Phantoms)

$0.50 - Game of Thrones (US) + XCOM Bureau Trophy DLC

$0.50 - Tom Clancy's HAWX

$2 - Agarest Generations of War 2

$3 - Lost Planet 3 + Need For Speed The Run

$3 - Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory

$3 - Okabu + Dungeon Defenders + Rocketbirds + Sam & Max Time and Space Ep1-5 + PacMan DX + Eufloria + Dragon's Lair II + Worms Golf + Stardrone

$6 - LittleBigPlanet 3 (PS3)

Exclusively for Rent (All are $1 a week unless otherwise noted):

Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes (PS3)

Resogun Season Pass (PS4)

 
Raiborg said:
You're claiming there is hostility where there is none and you included a large image. Your post was doing the exact opposite of what it seemed you were trying to accomplish. Thanks for removing it.
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I was trying to lighten the mood because let's be honest, there was some hostility.

One doesn't just write a wall of text to have fun

 
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Mageshadow said:
I was trying to lighten the mood because let's be honest, there was some hostility.

One doesn't just write a wall of text to have fun
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Pretty much this. Discussing whether we should promote locked spots within the community is perfectly fine, but the moment everyone starts accusing each other of their shares coming from unknown sources, I would say it's starting to get pretty hostile.

 
Bought me a used VITA. The rear touchpad sucks donkey balls. The games suck mostly - i only speak about all the crossplay/PS+ games.

I hereby name my Vita "THE LITTLE BLACK INDIE GAME MACHINE".

Here is my testing results, purely objective, full of hatespeak etc pp:

  • Pix the Cat: Good funky great music aaarrghh wtf why are the controls start to lag if i am on lv20 and on FEVER. FK.
  • The Swapper: Not my kind of game (read: It sucks)
  • Luftrausers: Awesome. Now i own the game on PC/PS3/PS4/Vita. Trophies still bugged though.
  • Hotline Miami: Awesome. Same as above^^
  • Titan Attacks: Would never pay a cent for Galaga remix. fk that.
  • Resogun: Wtf is this. Me no like. Looks pretty though.
  • Minecraft: Drop some acid, makes the "game" more fun. Also, all my houses look like shit. I cant Minecraft at all.
  • Little King Story: Goofy translation. Good game.
  • Soul Sacrifice: Atrocity. What the hell does this game want to be. Fk. I regret the download time.
  • Fifa Football: Surprisingly good! And i never play football games. Manager mode is awesome. Trophies bugged :(
  • PS All-Stars Battle Royale: If you want this crap, drop me a line. I may even ship the game to you for free, my level of disgust is that high.
  • NFS Most Wanted: Same as PS3 version. May be good, may be bad. I say, above average. And bad soundtrack.
  • Dragons Crown: Yeah. No. If you want to look at wobbling drawn tits of monstrous proportions, then this is the game for you. A hint: You can also watch real porn on the vita without problems.
  • PIxeljunk Shooter: Ugly crap.
  • Pixeljunk TD: Surprisingly good. Not all games with Pixeljunk in the title are JUNK indeed. HUEHUEHUE.
  • Street fighter X Tekken: Pretty, but shallow and laggy. And what the fuck with the gems, like seriously. If you ever try online, get some lube first. A whole bucket is a good amount i think.
  • Uncharted Golden Abyss: Finally a game where everything is nice. If you dont have it, buy it.
  • Rogue Legacy: Good, hard, rage inducing and ugly. If you can take it, play it.
  • All the LEGO Games: Shit. If you see one, you saw all.
  • Kick and Fennix: Too tight jumpcontrols. Hard is good, but ALMOST FKING IMPOSSIBLE is pure rage. Not good.
  • Joe Danger: Ehhhh...5minute fun. Try for free, buy if you like.
  • Rainbow Moon: Bad story, good grind game for long train tours. Dont buy orbs from sony!
  • Muramasa Rebirth: Cant install, looks pretty though.
  • Sonic All-Star Racing: Crap in my humble hating opinion.
  • Rayman Origins: I hated the Rayman games on the PSone. And i love this one. Maybe thats because i got older and senile or because they finally decided to make Rayman games not only pretty but fun, too. Great game. Really.
  • Touch My Katamari: What the fk is this game. I cant even...O_O But, the chaos is FUN. Like, REAL FUN. Try it :)
  • Jax and Dexter Trilogy: Same as PS3. Good controls, pretty graphics, nice sound.
  • Sly cooper: Same as above.
  • FEZ: Dungpile. Tries too hard to be a hipster piece of shit. It works, it IS a hipster piece of feces. Dont waste your precious memorycard space.
  • Velocity 2X: Woaaaaahhh prrreetttyyy. And fast. Good game.
  • Unit 13: Nice looking shooter.
  • Oddworld: Strangers Wrath: Too much weirdness for me. Cannot form an opinion.
  • Moto GP 13: Very good if you like bike racing. Otherwise, pass.
  • Dynasty Warriors: Same as above. Ill pass on this one.
  • Sine Mora: Strange name for a damn good game.

And now to my favourite part of the Vita: Remote Play. Damn, this is good. If the game which you are streaming supports controls (aka not the shitty L2R2 L3R3 on the rear pad) you can actually play a PS4 game WHILE SITTING ON THE WHITE THRONE OF POWER. Glorious.

 
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Islan said:
Am I going crazy or were there PSN codes for less than $5 being sold before? $2-3? codes? Anyone have one?
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I can't say for certain, but it's highly unlikely considering how they even limit adding funds through credit card or PayPal to a couple of presets, all of them $5 and higher.

 
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