CAGLS: Official NHL 13 No Hockey League - Playoffs! Rd 1 - Deadline 12/11!

[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']I do think we need to just go ahead and create a policy for this. It's going to become an even bigger issue as the league goes on. I thnk the basic policy should be this:

Everyone is REQUIRED to enable CPU play

Everyone must PM their opponent before even considering playing the CPU

No games vs the CPU should be played before the day of the deadline unless given permission by the owner (games against unowned teams can be played at any time)

If a player is reported as having played the CPU for an owned team before the day of the deadline, you get one warning. After that, you're suspended for 3 games (meaning, 3 opponents get to play your CPU). I'm hoping a 1:3 ratio would be enough to encourage people to pay attention and double check before just launching into a game against the CPU.


If anyone else has anything to add to this or something they think should be changed, feel free to speak up.[/QUOTE]

What about something where if you are reported you get 1 warning, then if it happens again you have to forfeit a game? I ask this only because we all know that playing the CPU is anything but an automatic win.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']What about something where if you are reported you get 1 warning, then if it happens again you have to forfeit a game? I ask this only because we all know that playing the CPU is anything but an automatic win.[/QUOTE]

That's a reasonable request, but where's the forfeit button? If you're suggesting that the person just start up a game with you and allow you to score goals, that would never work. You're not going to get people to show up for their punishment.

I realize playing the CPU isn't a perfect solution, but that's why I came up with the 3 game suspension. If it was just 1:1, people probably wouldn't really care. You have to remember, the objective here is to prevent it from happening at all.
 
Good games with Destro, MVP and Alan. Should have gone to OT with MVP but I hit that spot in the net where it doesn't count as a goal. Lovely.
 
[quote name='jza1218']Good games with Destro, MVP and Alan. Should have gone to OT with MVP but I hit that spot in the net where it doesn't count as a goal. Lovely.[/QUOTE]

I was wondering what the hell happened on that. Solid defensive game though both ways. Couldn't do shit on my power play.
 
[quote name='jza1218']Good games with Destro, MVP and Alan. Should have gone to OT with MVP but I hit that spot in the net where it doesn't count as a goal. Lovely.[/QUOTE]

Where is that?
 
[quote name='Flyersfan']Where is that?[/QUOTE]

It's in the top corner of the goal where the crossbar meets the post. It happened once before to me in a HUT game. I just assumed it hit the corner perfectly and figured it dropped on the line when it happened to me.
 
you know what sucks? when someone enables you to play the cpu and it won't let you play because the team doesn't have enough players on their roster. you would think since the cpu was about to play the game, then the cpu could call someone up...
 
[quote name='mvp828']It's in the top corner of the goal where the crossbar meets the post. It happened once before to me in a HUT game. I just assumed it hit the corner perfectly and figured it dropped on the line when it happened to me.[/QUOTE]

It was in last year's game too. If you pause and look at the replay, you'll see the puck with space on all sides, clearly over the line. Not to mention it doesn't react like a post hit at all. It just dies and falls straight down. Yet another thing EA didn't bother to fix.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']It was in last year's game too. If you pause and look at the replay, you'll see the puck with space on all sides, clearly over the line. Not to mention it doesn't react like a post hit at all. It just dies and falls straight down. Yet another thing EA didn't bother to fix.[/QUOTE]

Gotcha... I never really looked at it too much just kept playing. It does suck though.

Just a heads up to anyone I have for this period, my availability is a little different this week since I'm in a licensing course for work. I'll be available from 6PM EST to about midnight each night.
 
Sorry I didn't get online last night. For the 4 people that had to play St. Louis how did the games go and how did Elliott do at the net.
 
Ok, we have advanced to the next set of games on the schedule. Since no one else has commented, I'm just going to go forward with the policy I suggested last night. So, this is for EVERYONE.

Select one of the games on your schedule, press A, and select "Enable CPU and Sim Games Vs Your Team". This DOES NOT prevent you from playing your games in any way. It just makes it possible for other teams to play you should you not be available by the day of the deadline.

ALL TEAMS must contact their opponents through private message on CAG to inquire about schedulling a time to play their game. If you have not responded to your opponent within an appropriate amount of time to get the game scheduled before the deadline, do not be surprised if your opponent ends up playing the CPU.

NO ONE should be playing any games vs the CPU until the day of the deadline unless given permission by the team owner in this thread (teams with no owner can be played at any time...if you're not sure who doesn't have an owner, check the Original Post of this thread).

Any team that plays a CPU team without permission or without giving the team owner a chance to exchange private messages will be given one initial WARNING. A second offense will come with a 3 GAME SUSPSENSION (meaning 3 opponents get to play your CPU team). A third offense will come with a 6 GAME SUSPENSION. And a fourth offense will result in being BANNED from the league. Don't let this happen to you. There are plenty of ways to figure out if you should be playing the CPU or not. Don't be lazy.

I'm hoping this will open things up more for the teams who don't want to see their games getting simmed. Originally, I wanted to try to avoid just rewarding people who have the most free time and can play all 82 games. But honestly, we've done a better job completing games than I anticipated, so it's really more unfair for the few that are holding up games to force those games to be simmed. At least this way, it gives everyone a chance to try to get as many games completed as possible.

The deadline for this next batch of games will be 10/19 at 11:59 PM EST.
 
[quote name='sendme']Sorry I didn't get online last night. For the 4 people that had to play St. Louis how did the games go and how did Elliott do at the net.[/QUOTE]

He wasn't horrible in the game I played. I got 3 goals but they were on good scoring chances.

But my AI scared the crap out of me by taking cheap shots at your players. There were two injuries to your guys early in the game but I know one of them returned later and the other didn't show up in the injury listings so I think it was just for that game. It was Perron who returned later and Pietrangelo was the other one. But I checked the injury report after the game and neither was listed.

EA really needs to learn hpw to program AI, both hits that resulted in injuries were away from the play on AI hits. On the worse one, the STL AI dumps the puck and starts skating the direction of the bench for a line change I think. As I take control of the d-man in the corner to grab the puck the whistle blows and it turns out one of my Ai had followed him towards the bench and cross checks him in the back, injuring him. So the way EA programs AI is to take cheap shots and turn penalites down, awesome job guys.
 
[quote name='DarkTower80']He wasn't horrible in the game I played. I got 3 goals but they were on good scoring chances.

But my AI scared the crap out of me by taking cheap shots at your players. There were two injuries to your guys early in the game but I know one of them returned later and the other didn't show up in the injury listings so I think it was just for that game. It was Perron who returned later and Pietrangelo was the other one. But I checked the injury report after the game and neither was listed.

EA really needs to learn hpw to program AI, both hits that resulted in injuries were away from the play on AI hits. On the worse one, the STL AI dumps the puck and starts skating the direction of the bench for a line change I think. As I take control of the d-man in the corner to grab the puck the whistle blows and it turns out one of my Ai had followed him towards the bench and cross checks him in the back, injuring him. So the way EA programs AI is to take cheap shots and turn penalites down, awesome job guys.[/QUOTE]

And you're surprised by this why?
 
Thanks. I don't want them hurt also. I will check the list in a second to see who is injured. I'm contacting the people I need to play now.
 
For anyone needing to play Chicago, I'm not going to have much time this week due to birthday activities and going out of town. I will try to get in touch with everyone individually but if you don't play me by late Wednesday night, then play the CPU. I will not have any access to my 360 from Thursday - Sunday afternoon.
 
[quote name='DarkTower80']Not surprised at all, just didn't want to have two if his top guys get hurt by idiotic plays by my AI.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the concern about my top players. Good thing is they are fine.

I was just looking at the free agents and draft picks. I was looking to see if Vladimir Tarasenko was listed. I didn't see him. I know St. Louis picked him up for this season and I have seen some videos of the guy. So does that mean someone picked him up already or that he is just not listed?
 
[quote name='Ninjas in a Box']I apologize for sounding like a douche. You could have messaged me to tell me my friends list is full. I could have fixed that.[/QUOTE]


Good game.


Apparently my guys (or my controller) decided that working in the faceoff circle wasn't important. I don't think I won one draw, or if I did, it was so insignificant.


You skated backwards in to my goalie holding the left trigger twice though. I'm not going to be a bitch about it, but these were the kind of plays that I thought we were specifically asked not to perform for the sake of keeping the game as close to a real hockey game as possible.


Logging on to set CPU now.
 
[quote name='redshadow']Good game.


Apparently my guys (or my controller) decided that working in the faceoff circle wasn't important. I don't think I won one draw, or if I did, it was so insignificant.


You skated backwards in to my goalie holding the left trigger twice though. I'm not going to be a bitch about it, but these were the kind of plays that I thought we were specifically asked not to perform for the sake of keeping the game as close to a real hockey game as possible.


Logging on to set CPU now.[/QUOTE]

Whoa whoa wait a minute. Are you sure you're not confused with another game?! I'm terrible at face off. Anyone who plays me definitely destroys me in face offs.

hmmm, I don't remember backwards skating into your goalie at all. I may have used LT but used it to work around the defense or to try to set up some one timers (which failed as always) not try to back up into your goalie.

Good game though. You played well and strong defense.
 
[quote name='redshadow']Good game.


Apparently my guys (or my controller) decided that working in the faceoff circle wasn't important. I don't think I won one draw, or if I did, it was so insignificant.


You skated backwards in to my goalie holding the left trigger twice though. I'm not going to be a bitch about it, but these were the kind of plays that I thought we were specifically asked not to perform for the sake of keeping the game as close to a real hockey game as possible.


Logging on to set CPU now.[/QUOTE]

Well, there was a lot of discussion with this because some people had no idea what it was referencing. Skating backward at the goalie refers to one on one opportunities (ie. breakaways) where you hold the LT to turn your back and hide the puck from the goalie, and then whip it past him. Any other backward skating that could pop up during a scramble, or a one timer attempt (since "vision control" doesn't work worth crap this year), or a deke turned spinorama is not against the rules (and is usually unintentional). Skating backward at the goalie is blatant and pretty noticeable. If he really did this, you should have uploaded a replay of it. No point bickering about it when we have a means for showing proof.
 
Good games with Buffalo (2x), Florida, and Washington tonight.

Buffalo and I have a rivalry in the making. Last week he was able to nudge me by a goal in regulation and won another in the shootout. Tonight I was able to avenge the losses. Going to be a good race for the division.

Good game with Destro too. Until a really ridiculous goal when I tried to clear the puck on the PK from a little bit outside of center ice. Somehow, the dump ended up going on net and Holtby decided to try to reach up and glove the puck... Problem was, the puck was bouncing on the ice at his feet. No idea what the hell the AI was thinking. I was going to save it, but figured Destro might have got it.

Tampa is my last game for this period, so I'll shoot you a message to see what time works best for you.
 
mvp I think your division lead is safe lol, you've nearly clinched a playoff spot already. I'm gonna focus more on possibly winning the season series against you. Kinda sucks that the best I can do at this point is gonna be 4th place. But yea, good games yesterday although you pretty much dominated me both times. Yesterday was not my day as I got dominated in 3 of my 4 games...
 
Destro looks like we have another game this week. God I hope Ovechkin doesn't go on a scoring frenzy like he did last time. Cam Ward still has nightmares from that game.
 
[quote name='Ninjas in a Box']Destro looks like we have another game this week. God I hope Ovechkin doesn't go on a scoring frenzy like he did last time. Cam Ward still has nightmares from that game.[/QUOTE]

I am going to play Bruins tonight, you want to play too?

Then if MrHockey and Vulcan want, we can play Thursday night if you guys are free.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']I am going to play Bruins tonight, you want to play too?

Then if MrHockey and Vulcan want, we can play Thursday night if you guys are free.[/QUOTE]

yes, tonight is good for me.
 
[quote name='Twick87']mvp I think your division lead is safe lol, you've nearly clinched a playoff spot already. I'm gonna focus more on possibly winning the season series against you. Kinda sucks that the best I can do at this point is gonna be 4th place. But yea, good games yesterday although you pretty much dominated me both times. Yesterday was not my day as I got dominated in 3 of my 4 games...[/QUOTE]

Ah I don't know... We aren't quite to half way, and right now a lot of my success has been on Price and Price alone. Good chance I'm screwed if he gets hurt. Yesterday's games were just an absolute flip of last week. Last week you dominated Price in the first game and then last night my guys couldn't miss on Miller in the second. Then we had the games 2 and 3 that were right down to the end. Don't worry about the losing 3 of 4. That was me last week when we played. I lost the two to you, and one to Carolina.

[quote name='DestroVega']I didn't save that dump-in goal. I would erase it from my brain if I could. Good games last night.[/QUOTE]

Good point. It's one of those that you'll take it when you get it, but it feels dirty even doing that.

On another note, has anyone noticed that injuries are screwed up (besides the fact that they are more common than a Vegas hooker)?

Example: On 12/1 Gionta got hurt for 46 games. About 12 games later he is only out for 14 more games. WTF?

Then I have PK Subban who was knocked out for 20 games. Before I played any games for this period he had 2 games remaining on the injury. I played 6 of my 7 games last night and he is still injured for 1 game. He was also listed for 1 more game prior to my games with Florida and Washington last night.
 
Don't know about Gionta, but for Subban, I think if someone has a playable injury and you still play them, it will take longer to fully heal.
 
Good games with Carolina and Philly tonight. Somehow, Rinne was able to get shutouts in both of them, but he definitely had a little help. I know Ninjas in a Box hit the post at least twice...and in addition to Rinne, David Legwand and Shea Weber were in beast mode. Legwand got the first two goals of the game. The first coming on a simple wrister that Ward just missed, and the second on a spin around backhand (which amazingly, I was actually trying to do), after Ward made a ridiculous save on a centering pass that Legwand threw. Weber added the insurance goal off a faceoff in Carolina's end.

As for the game with Philly, we both seemed to be missing chances in this one. The lone goal came off a Mike Fisher shot off the post that was scooped up and thrown back in. Flyersfan and I both missed open nets several times after that though. I outshot him 21 to 11, but I definitely didn't feel like the dominant team. I was just lucky to get that one goal and for none of the bounces and blocked shots in front of Rinne to create easy goals.

Good game to both of you guys. These went much better than my Madden game which desynced in the 3rd quarter after I had just scored the go ahead TD. So overall, a solid C- effort from EA tonight. Just like they planned it! lol
 
[quote name='Vulcan2422']Well, my record is horrible. On the plus side, I know exactly who im drafting if my record gets any worse![/QUOTE]

Gary, I'm lucky enough to have DP with you this week. And by DP of course I mean "Double Playtime". What else could it possibly mean...? Anyway, let me know what your availability looks like the rest of this week and we can have some fun...with the DP...the double playtime...
 
Rant time, I really, REALLY hate that in penalty shots or the shootout you automatically have to take control of the goalie. I dont ever use goalie mode and I hate having to figure it out on the fly like that and giving up easy goals as a result. I know I know, practice, but it shouldnt even be mandatory in the first place. I'm pretty sure you didnt automatically take control in 12, why couldnt they have just kept that?

Aside from that, great game with Destro tonight. B's take a tough loss 3-2.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']Rant time, I really, REALLY hate that in penalty shots or the shootout you automatically have to take control of the goalie. I dont ever use goalie mode and I hate having to figure it out on the fly like that and giving up easy goals as a result. I know I know, practice, but it shouldnt even be mandatory in the first place. I'm pretty sure you didnt automatically take control in 12, why couldnt they have just kept that?

Aside from that, great game with Destro tonight. B's take a tough loss 3-2.[/QUOTE]

No, it was the same way in 12. I know it's hard to get used to if you don't play a lot of goalie (which I don't either), but honestly, it's really the most fair way to do it. Otherwise, one person's CPU goalie who has been a brick wall all game, stopping 40 out of 43 shots could continue to outperform the other person's goalie who has only stopped 10 out of 13 shots.

At least in these cases, it specifically comes down to your skill vs your opponent's skill. I had a penalty shot in my game against Flyersfan, and he stuffed me. I tried to get a quick feel to see how jumpy he would be, but he did a great job being patient and following the puck. I was impressed. The biggest thing that will help you is just playing a lot of online shootouts. They're very quick and easy to get into.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Good games with Carolina and Philly tonight. Somehow, Rinne was able to get shutouts in both of them, but he definitely had a little help. I know Ninjas in a Box hit the post at least twice...and in addition to Rinne, David Legwand and Shea Weber were in beast mode. Legwand got the first two goals of the game. The first coming on a simple wrister that Ward just missed, and the second on a spin around backhand (which amazingly, I was actually trying to do), after Ward made a ridiculous save on a centering pass that Legwand threw. Weber added the insurance goal off a faceoff in Carolina's end.

As for the game with Philly, we both seemed to be missing chances in this one. The lone goal came off a Mike Fisher shot off the post that was scooped up and thrown back in. Flyersfan and I both missed open nets several times after that though. I outshot him 21 to 11, but I definitely didn't feel like the dominant team. I was just lucky to get that one goal and for none of the bounces and blocked shots in front of Rinne to create easy goals.

Good game to both of you guys. These went much better than my Madden game which desynced in the 3rd quarter after I had just scored the go ahead TD. So overall, a solid C- effort from EA tonight. Just like they planned it! lol[/QUOTE]


Good game as well , Legwand is crazy fast flying down the boards. That interference call in the 1st was really strange, I was controlling that guy but somehow got sucked into checking him, kinda like how Madden had defensive linemen get sucked into offensive linemen.

Played three games tonight and lost all three by one goal. Frustrating. Somehow I had no noticeable lag vs NJ or Nashville but vs Carolina I did and he did as well. Ea servers :wall:
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']No, it was the same way in 12. I know it's hard to get used to if you don't play a lot of goalie (which I don't either), but honestly, it's really the most fair way to do it. Otherwise, one person's CPU goalie who has been a brick wall all game, stopping 40 out of 43 shots could continue to outperform the other person's goalie who has only stopped 10 out of 13 shots.

At least in these cases, it specifically comes down to your skill vs your opponent's skill. I had a penalty shot in my game against Flyersfan, and he stuffed me. I tried to get a quick feel to see how jumpy he would be, but he did a great job being patient and following the puck. I was impressed. The biggest thing that will help you is just playing a lot of online shootouts. They're very quick and easy to get into.[/QUOTE]

This. I play a lot of online games (well, in the past, not so much this year except this league.) I also poke check a lot and always end up giving up fast breaks where I have to dive back, so I tend to put myself in the position to be a goalie in shoot outs a lot. I've probably done that 10 times against peope in this league alone. Patience is key as in real life. Follow the puck, hope EA puck physics don't fuck you over.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Gary, I'm lucky enough to have DP with you this week. And by DP of course I mean "Double Playtime". What else could it possibly mean...? Anyway, let me know what your availability looks like the rest of this week and we can have some fun...with the DP...the double playtime...[/QUOTE]

You want to have dp with Gary? Eeewwww... Keeps reading .....wait oooooooh okay doubly playtime not double penetra....nevermind.

Yeah gg from Nate. His team played better all around and definitely showed it in that game. The second goal (spin back hand) still makes me sick. I had two ai guys there to stop it instead their ai brain kicks in and just stand there. Pure loveliness.

Gg against flyers except the horrible lag in the game. You definitely played some great defense in the game.

Anaheim ducks told me to go ahead play the CPU game. Cam Ward decides he wants to play like pure shit in that game. Let's just say it was 4-0 middle of second period. I was finally able to get in a goal by the end of second. Third period, Carolina decides they want to play and tied it up 4-4 at the end of third period. Finally scored the winning goal in the middle of ot. But wait that's not all.... The game doesn't count. At that point I'm livid. So I decided to play the game again only to win it in ot 2-1.

Here's a video of some of the crap I went through in the first game against Anaheim.

http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/139346375

I've had enough of your shenanigans, Cam Ward. Enough is enough.
 
LOL...holy shit! That video is awesome, hahaha. Look at #55 before he takes that shot too. It's like he waves at the Cam like "Hey, buddy. You ready for this one? Look alive!" Wow.

I tell ya though, Jeremy, getting in on the man love, complaining about EA...you're starting to fit right in with us, lol. ;)
 
WOW. The more of this stuff I see the more I think I should just trade the game in. Should a shot like that even be able to happen. I don't know how the hell a goaltender would even let that in.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']No, it was the same way in 12. I know it's hard to get used to if you don't play a lot of goalie (which I don't either), but honestly, it's really the most fair way to do it. Otherwise, one person's CPU goalie who has been a brick wall all game, stopping 40 out of 43 shots could continue to outperform the other person's goalie who has only stopped 10 out of 13 shots.

At least in these cases, it specifically comes down to your skill vs your opponent's skill. I had a penalty shot in my game against Flyersfan, and he stuffed me. I tried to get a quick feel to see how jumpy he would be, but he did a great job being patient and following the puck. I was impressed. The biggest thing that will help you is just playing a lot of online shootouts. They're very quick and easy to get into.[/QUOTE]


Still, you'd think that having goalie mode off would mean its actually, ya know, off instead of just being off except for penalty shots and shootouts where the game could be on the line. Especially since they didnt even bother to include any sort of explanation of what does what for your goalie...the first time I saw this was in a shootout in 13, couldnt exactly pause it to access the fuckin manual.
 
Sadly that isn't the first time I've seen that. I did something similar in a Be A Pro game when clearing on a penalty. Only difference was the puck bounced off the end boards and went off the goalies skate.

You'd think after being possible to do for 3 years they would have fixed it by now. Guess not. EA Sported!
 
Yeah, honestly, that shot going in is less disturbing than some of the ones the goalies routinely let in (see: soft backhanders). I'm ok with something having a 1:200 chance of going in. It's the 1:3 chances ones that ruin the game.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Yeah, honestly, that shot going in is less disturbing than some of the ones the goalies routinely let in (see: soft backhanders). I'm ok with something having a 1:200 chance of going in. It's the 1:3 chances ones that ruin the game.[/QUOTE]

It just seems like when it rains it pours. Our game being a prime example. 3 of my 4 regulation losses Price let 3 goals in during the 1st. Then he does headstands.
 
Just sent a message to the two people that did get back with me about our games. The other two have not got back with me, but if they see this I won't be on till maybe late tonight if I'm on. We are having storms in the area and a lot of lightning around here. I planing on shutting down my computer soon.
 
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