Delayed Zelda and what I did

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So I'm sure many of you have Zelda on preorder at EB courtesy of the killer preorder deal from last year, and I'm sure many of you had forgotten about those preorders as Zelda keeps moving back, and lets face it is highly likely to be released for the Revolution only.

Well I finally remembered about my copy yesterday while visiting EB (I have not been in the store in a while as no killer deals have surfaced).

It occurred to me that I would have a good case now to have the preorder transferred into an xbox 360 game. In the past my EB have frowned upon transferring preorders. The clerk approved the transfer without blinking an eye, so this was certainly good news.

I picked up "The OutFit".

I have another preorder at a different EB, so it looks like I get to score twice.
 
Zelda may be compatible on the Revolution, but it will stay on the GC as Nintendo has stated several times.


On topic though, its cool they let you transfer it so easily.
 
They probably did not mind because there are great trade-in deals for 360 items. The clerk probably saw very little reason to care, so he did the rollover for you.
 
I cancelled my preorder after the first delay and they just gave me $50 credit. The only reason I had it preordered was because of the great deal last year (don't care about the game much, probably would've sold it anyway) so this was great for me.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Zelda may be compatible on the Revolution, but it will stay on the GC as Nintendo has stated several times.


On topic though, its cool they let you transfer it so easily.[/quote]

Sure, and it will release in Nov 2005, er early 2006, er June 2006, oh wait...its September now.

I've heard from lots of sources that it will be Cube title (here, retail stores, other websites), but that's just not going to happen. They want to sell Revolution hardware. What's the best way? Put a title that will sell a million copies on a new system. That's a million systems sold.

Nintendo would be STUPID to release it for the Cube now. The gamecube is dead, we all know it, Nintendo knows it and I really doubt we'll see many more titles for it.

My two cents.

TBW

PS If anything, I'm a Nintendo fanboy....I just happen to not be completely blinded by it.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Zelda may be compatible on the Revolution, but it will stay on the GC as Nintendo has stated several times.


On topic though, its cool they let you transfer it so easily.[/QUOTE]
isnt there something thats like certain things can be unlocked on the revolution with zelda:ttp
 
[quote name='TheBlueWizard']Sure, and it will release in Nov 2005, er early 2006, er June 2006, oh wait...its September now.

I've heard from lots of sources that it will be Cube title (here, retail stores, other websites), but that's just not going to happen. They want to sell Revolution hardware. What's the best way? Put a title that will sell a million copies on a new system. That's a million systems sold.

Nintendo would be STUPID to release it for the Cube now. The gamecube is dead, we all know it, Nintendo knows it and I really doubt we'll see many more titles for it.

My two cents.

TBW

PS If anything, I'm a Nintendo fanboy....I just happen to not be completely blinded by it.[/QUOTE]


Nintendo themselves has said that Zelda will come out near Revolution time and be compatible with BOTH! All these release dates that have been out are just "assumed" by EB, Gamestop, etc...

[quote name='ajumbaje']isnt there something thats like certain things can be unlocked on the revolution with zelda:ttp[/QUOTE]
I think so, and that the Revolution controller can be used...
 
Aye, I think it's highly unlikely that they're completely moving development to the Revolution. They've obviously committed a lot of time to the title, so why shift gears now?

But then again, Perfect Dark Zero was in the works for a while, and it did *two* platform shifts... so you never know, eh?
 
[quote name='TheBlueWizard']Sure, and it will release in Nov 2005, er early 2006, er June 2006, oh wait...its September now.

I've heard from lots of sources that it will be Cube title (here, retail stores, other websites), but that's just not going to happen. They want to sell Revolution hardware. What's the best way? Put a title that will sell a million copies on a new system. That's a million systems sold.

Nintendo would be STUPID to release it for the Cube now. The gamecube is dead, we all know it, Nintendo knows it and I really doubt we'll see many more titles for it.

My two cents.

TBW

PS If anything, I'm a Nintendo fanboy....I just happen to not be completely blinded by it.[/QUOTE]
What's stupid about it? I'm sure Nintendo will market the Revolution's backwards compatiability where many people will indeed buy as a launch title without the GC owners losing out.
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']What's stupid about it? I'm sure Nintendo will market the Revolution's backwards compatiability where many people will indeed buy as a launch title without the GC owners losing out.[/quote]

I'm not suggesting that it will be a Cube title released in the Revolution launch window, I'm saying that it will be a Revolution only title, not capable of running on the Cube. Any game programmer could write 10 lines of code that would probably make a game not able to run on a Cube and only on the Revolution if designed initially for both. All you would need is a little bit of code that says "look for Cube OS. If you find it, don't play this game". That's not too hard.

By making it a Revolution only title, Nintendo will guarantee tons of sold hardware. Once we have the hardware, we'll be more likely to buy other games to play, and make Nintendo more money. If Nintendo can guarantee more hardware sales, the price will likely be less as well.

I just don't see the logic in Nintendo brining the game out for the Cube when another month or two would see tons of sales anyway, and probably more Revolution hardware. The last thing that Nintendo wants is to be outselling the Revolution with Cubes for people hoping to play a new Zelda cheap.

That being said, I don't have any more information than the rest of you. I know that most stores around here are saying September for release. My opinion is that we'll see Zelda only on the Revolution. Remember, if it happens, you heard it hear first (unless someone else beat me to it). If it does come out for the Cube, please dig this thread up and tell me I told you so. I'll probably deserve it by then.

TBW
 
This is funny, it looks like it's the eternal optimists vs. the realists. You guys who still beleive this title will show up on the GC are delusional. This is a premiere title, only matched by Mario. Do you all you GC fanboys expect to see another Mario title in the near future. The GC is done. It's a great console, but the moment Nintendo decided not to support DVD's was the moment they relegated the GC to third place.

My 360 is my focus at this point, so all those outstanding preorders are gravy for me :)
 
[quote name='stoned99']This is funny, it looks like it's the eternal optimists vs. the realists. You guys who still beleive this title will show up on the GC are delusional.
[/QUOTE]


I'm gonna hold you to that comment. :)
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']You should've kicked over a magazine rack instead...[/QUOTE]

i was just, unfortunately, thinking about him. whether it's because i felt he was mentioned, or just random coincidence, i know not.

all of these pushbacks don't bother me, i doubt i'll be able to afford it when it releases anyways.

that being said, i definitely won't be able to afford it if it's for revolution only. boohoo
 
[quote name='Strider Turbulence']I'm gonna hold you to that comment. :)[/QUOTE]

Yeah... I think I'm gonna move this thread to the top of my Firefox bookmarks, for future reference.
 
I will bet MONEY that Zelda will come out for the Gamecube. It may have a few token Rev only features, (Rev Tingle anyone? lol) But it will come out for the cube. If anyone wants some action PM me...
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']You should've kicked over a magazine rack instead...[/QUOTE]

LOL, oh man I remember that story.
 
Nintendo has stated time and time again It is and will always be a GameCube game. They will NOT be moving it to a Revolution Only game.

Heres an idea Why not read what Nintendo has said before jumping to conclusions.
 
[quote name='CapAmerica']Nintendo has stated time and time again It is and will always be a GameCube game. They will NOT be moving it to a Revolution Only game.

Heres an idea Why not read what Nintendo has said before jumping to conclusions.[/quote]

You are so trusting, I like that about you.

Hows that PS3 working out for you, I'm fairly certain Sony said it would be out by spring, or well you could always get excited and play your new copy of Duke Nukem on your Windows Vista O/S. I heard both those companies had made promises on delivery.

Don't get me wrong I'm not wishing it to happen, but business is business and the GC is dead.
 
[quote name='stoned99']You are so trusting, I like that about you.

Hows that PS3 working out for you, I'm fairly certain Sony said it would be out by spring, or well you could always get excited and play your new copy of Duke Nukem on your Windows Vista O/S. I heard both those companies had made promises on delivery.

Don't get me wrong I'm not wishing it to happen, but business is business and the GC is dead.[/QUOTE]
And if the Rev wasn't backwards compatible, then they would certainly put Zelda out on the Rev. But it's a great closing title for the GC while also usable as a launch title for the Rev. I honestly couldn't see Zelda: TP in its incarnation being a Rev game. You think they're gonna recode everything they did using the 6 GC buttons to the Rev controller? Assuming it were even possible, without changing parts of the game, I doubt it would feel natural. And if you're going to say you could just use the shell controller... then why does it matter if it will be the same exact game regardless of system? They'll sell more copies if it's a GC/Rev game than just a Rev game.

And last I heard, the PS3 was still going to be the PS3, and use Blu-Ray, and use a Cell processor... they weren't skipping this gen to make it the PS4 or switching over to a Pentium 4 or HD-DVD ;) Release date analogies don't work to well when arguing about hopping systems.
 
The way I see it, while Nintendo has the option to port Zelda to the Revo, the company would be better off keeping it on the Gamecube for a variety of reasons.

- One last great game to push sales of a dying console. It's been done before on tons of systems without that game going next gen.
- By making it a Gamecube game with extra Revo features, they increase sales. More people will have Gamecubes than they will have Revo's at launch - they can only sell so many. By offering the game to be played on both, they not only gain the new user, Revo buying market, but the the Gamecube market too (which they would be "stupid" to alienate).
- Nintendo would be better off to develop, as they have stated they are doing, a Revo only Zelda title. Better graphics, features, etc, and full Revo compatibility. The GCN Zelda will serve as a taste for what's to come - remember, Revo's not only about the wand controller. Online capability and that still unmentioned feature will be a part of it too, and will most definately be a part of a Revo-Zelda.

While I can see the understanding for saying it'd be ported, I just don't believe it will. So yeah, I'm one of those who would be willing to bet cold hard cash that it's going to be released for the GCN.

And I got sick of typing Revo so many times so I'm sure you're sick of reading it.
 
More people currently have a GC then those who are planning on buying a REV. End of Story.

Shiggy has said time and time again that it will be on the GC and compatible with both, right here and now I will bet anyone who disagrees $50.
 
I've got the game on pre-order and am keeping the faith that it will be a GC game with Revo features. Regardless of what system it does come out for, I will be playing Zelda on day one! And, if one can truly dream, playing Metroid Prime 3 on the Revolution on launch day.
 
Unfortunately Faith is not something I'm big on. I do see how certain individuals would still buy a Rev just to use the new features in Zelda if its a GC title, but I still think this a marquee title that can be used to move Rev's day one. I would have expected them to release an updated version of the game if they wanted to enhance it for the rev. That way they could sell two copies of the game.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']You should've kicked over a magazine rack instead...[/quote]

These CAG cliche's just dont have the staying power of a FARK or SA cliche....
 
[quote name='TheBlueWizard']Sure, and it will release in Nov 2005, er early 2006, er June 2006, oh wait...its September now.

I've heard from lots of sources that it will be Cube title (here, retail stores, other websites), but that's just not going to happen. They want to sell Revolution hardware. What's the best way? Put a title that will sell a million copies on a new system. That's a million systems sold.

Nintendo would be STUPID to release it for the Cube now. The gamecube is dead, we all know it, Nintendo knows it and I really doubt we'll see many more titles for it.

My two cents.

TBW

PS If anything, I'm a Nintendo fanboy....I just happen to not be completely blinded by it.[/QUOTE]

Miyamoto himself said that Zelda Twilight Princess would be a GameCube game with extra revolution features when played on the revolution.
 
[quote name='jer7583']Miyamoto himself said that Zelda Twilight Princess would be a GameCube game with extra revolution features when played on the revolution.[/QUOTE]

He also said once upon a time that the sequel to Wind Waker would use the same graphical style.

The man is not above lying.

In this particular instance, I believe he's right and that Zelda will be a GC game. But I wouldn't take the word of anyone at Nintendo at more than face value.
 
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