Demon's Souls - Atlus & From Software's Action RPG - October 6

[quote name='happy']You thought that boss was easy? Unless you mean either the red knight or the dragon it was the hardest thing on the stage for me (probably harder than the red knight). That's one of the great things about the game I suppose different things pose different challenges to different players. The easiest bosses for me so far were the giant spider thing and the 1-3 boss (which probably could have been hard)[/QUOTE]

The blob thing? I never even came close to using any sort of healing. I used a claymore on him, it would hit four or five pieces of him at a time.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']Tips on the Tower Knight? I died almost instantly. Soul Arrow too a sliver of his health...[/QUOTE]



Too add, after you take care of the archers, you can use their sniping emplacements to take free shots at the TK. R3 to target his head, then shoot, step back, and let his range attack harmlessly hit the wall.

I try to keep my shield up in case I mis-time the shot.

I did the entire 1-2 run again last night w/o any deaths or other issues, then killed the red dragon again.

When I went to the roost, the nest was empty and I had free reign to pick up the PFS, ring, and other goodies.
 
Beat the Tower Knight, died shortly after and can't get my body back (got my souls though). I have to beat another demon to get my body back don't I...?

Anyway, since I can't go any further in World 1, where should I go now? I'm thinking of some tunnel place...
 
[quote name='SynGamer']Beat the Tower Knight, died shortly after and can't get my body back (got my souls though). I have to beat another demon to get my body back don't I...?

Anyway, since I can't go any further in World 1, where should I go now? I'm thinking of some tunnel place...[/QUOTE]



Yeah, you have to beat bosses to regain your physical body.

However, it's actually a little nicer to be in Soul Form when starting a new level since you've got the extra damage and lower aggro radius bonuses, so I just suicide in the Nexus after I beat 'em. I don't want to lose my physical body when starting a new world as I don't want to take down the WT too quickly. Anyway, having a physical form mainly increases your HP to max, which isn't that big a deal really since death comes pretty quickly regardless.

My current track as a primarily Magic user is to try and prep myself to do 3-1 to save Sage Freke as you can pick up more useful spells (like Soul Light) that can be used in the other worlds. The suggested grinding area is 4-1 Shrine of Storms since the skels provide good souls, and there aren't too many environmental dangers to worry about. I had a really hard time dealing with the skels since I'm not very good at melee, and my shield (at the time) had terrible hit res, but now that I have PFS, I should be a little better off. I just have to grind a bit more on blue knights until I have STR 22 and then I'll have another go at 4-1.
 
Respawn. If you die... respawn. If you leave... respawn. Only time they don't if you save and quit in a dungeon to play through it later (but don't leave or die). They stay gone til you die, come back for another go, etc.
 
[quote name='m_d_amore']if i kill a bunch of guys and go back to nexus will they respawn if i go back before dying or stay clear?[/QUOTE]



They will respawn.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']If you have poison cloud, you can kill Freke without even Freke attacking you. If you don't have poison cloud, you screwed up.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be wearing the old king's armor if it wasn't for poison cloud. That tactic will come in handy for the npc's in nexus I decide to kill.
 
Finally killed Old King Allant ^_^, so I'm done with world 1 and 2. What do you guys think is the next logical step? It seems some ppl prefer to go to world 4 (for better items), but I don't know if it'll be too hard for me TT
 
I don't know what sort of character you're playing, but if you like magic, you should go to 3-1 to free Freke. And then to 4-1 to get poison cloud.
 
I'm kind of at a point where I need to grind because I'm stuck on 1-4 atm so I decided to start a new character. I picked knight because I liked the starting stats and items. The combat is so much easier this time around and I died one time I think while going through 1-1. The phalanx is a pain in the ass with just melee but I just kept using turpentines to beat it.
 
Yeah, you have to work the stats to get Royals into a more acceptable melee mode. I'm finding that combat is getting a bit easier the more points I dump into STR, and by using a better hit res shield.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']I don't know what sort of character you're playing, but if you like magic, you should go to 3-1 to free Freke. And then to 4-1 to get poison cloud.[/QUOTE]

Where in 4-1 do I get said poison cloud. I've cleared it, but did not come across it.

I was cruising along in 1-3 ...
opened the gate as asked letting in the pile of red eye knights. Soul level 50 and I got smoked. Died prematurely trying to collect my 30k worth of souls.
:bomb:

I'm going to go on record to say that by the end of my campaign, I will have probably put in the most hours to achieve the very least. lol
 
[quote name='Apollo Creed']Where in 4-1 do I get said poison cloud. I've cleared it, but did not come across it.[/QUOTE]

You
buy it in the Nexus with the boss' demon soul from 5-1
. EDIT - fixed.
 
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[quote name='Saint Noir']You
buy it in the Nexus with the boss' demon soul from 4-1
.[/QUOTE]

I've beat him, I'm pretty sure I still have the soul. Freke doesn't offer it to me. Hmmm. I'll double check tomorrow to make sure I've got the swollen demon's soul.
 
ey, i just got this game (DE!) and it friggin rocks so hard. Just wanna say thanks to CAG for letting me know about it.

This game is hard as hell but i dont think ive been so into a rpg since chrono trigger and grandia 2. only action rpg ive played was terranigma which was great for SNES.

btw, if you see messages in the first world warning you to beware of the Sticky White Stuff, thats me..lol
Dunno what that is in demons souls but beware the sticky white stuff IRL..especially u girls (probably none here tho)

im royalty class..thank god because some knights with the shiny eyes are too strong for melee. 1 hit deaths all day in this game. but damn, it sure is fun! i already feel my addictive nature coming into play and ive only got like 4 hrs in. I only hope the more i play the more i can understand the terms in this thread. u guys are like speaking another language
 
[quote name='danny8k']Finally killed Old King Allant ^_^, so I'm done with world 1 and 2. What do you guys think is the next logical step? It seems some ppl prefer to go to world 4 (for better items), but I don't know if it'll be too hard for me TT[/QUOTE]

Yeah, see, I don't even know what you are talking about (King who?) and I've done a lot of stuff in worlds 3-5. So you have a lot of choices to be sure. Basically, I pretty much haven't gone beyond phase 2 in any world until I finally did 2-3 as it was part of the WT event walkthrough in the guide (they have you doing world 2, then world 4). So when I get back home I finally have to make my way through 4-2 after getting the WT pure black and fighting the guy that I guess appears at the beginning of 4-1. I'm not looking forward to that as I'm sure he'll cream me. If so, I can farm some higher soul values out of the reapers in 4-2 first.

Odd thing abotu 4-2. I said earlier that the "Makoto" sword was down on the ground the first time I went through there (walkthrough says it will be up on a stalagmite until WT is white). Well, I killed myself once or twice in 4 and then went in that area and the body was back up on the stalagmite and had another treasure on him! I'm really wondering what this is - is it another "Makoto" sword or did the game replace it with a storied hero soul or something? I guess I'll find out when I go black WT and then white again.

But yeah, I would go through 3-1 at least and free Freke if you have any interest in magic.
 
[quote name='Saint Noir']It's 5-1. Not 4-1. My fault. It's the Wriggling soul. 4-1 soul doesn't give you anything too great... you need to beat 5-1.[/QUOTE]

No worries. I may take a run at 5-1 today when I'm done work. I should start farming grasses and the like. I burned through my entire inventory the last few days.

Two other questions...

1) How come the npc I speak to at the nexus to learn miracles doesn't offer the option to learn or remember anymore? I think I play this game when I'm far too tired and miss out on 90% of the story.

2) What's the easiest way to get world 2 to pure white? I want the rubble gone at the start of 1-3.
 
[quote name='Apollo Creed']No worries. I may take a run at 5-1 today when I'm done work. I should start farming grasses and the like. I burned through my entire inventory the last few days.

Two other questions...

1) How come the npc I speak to at the nexus to learn miracles doesn't offer the option to learn or remember anymore? I think I play this game when I'm far too tired and miss out on 90% of the story.

2) What's the easiest way to get world 2 to pure white? I want the rubble gone at the start of 1-3.[/QUOTE]

2-3 you mean? If you haven't killed all the bosses yet, here's how.
This may not be the "easiest" way but it is the most thorough and takes care of the black WT event too:

First, get it to pure black (commit suicide in body form in world 2 several times - use stones of ephemeral eyes to resurrect in between).
Then you can go fight black phantom Scirvir in the pit area to the right of the 2-2 entrance (past the miners, then down halfway into the pit by two crystal geckos - snipe them first). Bring lots of arrows and snipe him from the planks across the chasm, then maybe hit him with magic when he walks over. He just sat there most of the time and let me pound on him, but he does heal so you have to interrupt that or hit him enough to overcome it. Once you do that, WITHOUT LEAVING the world, go back to 2-1 (die if you have to to get back to the archstone) and make your way to the second elevator (past the rock throwing dudes). Head down and beat the very easy primeval demon. Now you can leave and go back to the Nexus. It should be nearly pure white. Then just kill the 2-2 or 2-3 boss and it will be at pure white. Since you are in 2-3 already I presume you killed the 2-2 boss. Now, if you already killed the 2-3 boss then you may be out of luck as I'm not sure how else you can raise WT besides killing invading black phantoms (other players) which would be tricky at best. Once you clear the rubble in 2-3 and get the item there, make sure to visit the white WT Scirvir (commit suicide in the Nexus or another world so you don't die in body form on the way down to see him as that will make him go away!). You will get another item from him for showing him the one from 2-3.
 
[quote name='io']2-3 you mean? If you haven't killed all the bosses yet, here's how.
This may not be the "easiest" way but it is the most thorough and takes care of the black WT event too:

First, get it to pure black (commit suicide in body form in world 2 several times - use stones of ephemeral eyes to resurrect in between).
Then you can go fight black phantom Scirvir in the pit area to the right of the 2-2 entrance (past the miners, then down halfway into the pit by two crystal geckos - snipe them first). Bring lots of arrows and snipe him from the planks across the chasm, then maybe hit him with magic when he walks over. He just sat there most of the time and let me pound on him, but he does heal so you have to interrupt that or hit him enough to overcome it. Once you do that, WITHOUT LEAVING the world, go back to 2-1 (die if you have to to get back to the archstone) and make your way to the second elevator (past the rock throwing dudes). Head down and beat the very easy primeval demon. Now you can leave and go back to the Nexus. It should be nearly pure white. Then just kill the 2-2 or 2-3 boss and it will be at pure white. Since you are in 2-3 already I presume you killed the 2-2 boss. Now, if you already killed the 2-3 boss then you may be out of luck as I'm not sure how else you can raise WT besides killing invading black phantoms (other players) which would be tricky at best. Once you clear the rubble in 2-3 and get the item there, make sure to visit the white WT Scirvir (commit suicide in the Nexus or another world so you don't die in body form on the way down to see him as that will make him go away!). You will get another item from him for showing him the one from 2-3.[/QUOTE]

My bad, 2-3 rubble. I think I'm screwed -- I've killed bosses in world 2-1, 2-2 and 2-3. :bomb: Oh well. I'll just move it to pure black to take out black phantom Scirvir.
 
[quote name='Apollo Creed']My bad, 2-3 rubble. I think I'm screwed -- I've killed bosses in world 2-1, 2-2 and 2-3. :bomb: Oh well. I'll just move it to pure black to take out black phantom Scirvir.[/QUOTE]

If you go pure black and kill the BP and the primeval demon (in one go without going to the Nexus) that will get it very close to pure white. And since the WT has a mind of its own, it will probably inch up to pure white eventually. I had this happen in world 3.
 
Yeah...never run through a play while sleep deprived...finally got to put more than 30 minutes into it and got to Phalanx....then realized I did not have any firebombs or turpentine with me. Stupid, party of one. :)

Tonight will be a different story....just need to kill a bunch of things to get some souls so I can purchase some items.....
 
As long as you have a sweeping weapon that can hit the minis from the side, you don't really need firebombs or turpentine to beat phalanx, but it makes the battle go by a lot quicker and easier. Usually, a single run through 1-1 will net you at least 1 firebomb though.
 
You can try whatever level. Some go to 2-1 or 4-1, I went to 1-2 (playing Royal).

Last night for me was just farming stones and grinding out souls so I could hit STR22 (on my other save)--PFS is nice. I'm planning to do the 1-2 rescue of Ostrava before tackling the skells in 4-1 again. Or might just grind souls on my first save, but in that one Ostrava died in 1-1.
 
[quote name='gunm']What do you mean, for trophies and such?[/QUOTE]

Weapons, trophies, spells, armor. Things that I can't get without playing a new game essentially...stuff that are important. :)
 
For trophies, you can't get everything on one play through. As for important items, that stuff would probably depend on your style of play. Many players like Clever Rat's Ring as it can be combined with the Morion Blade for much better damage. Most other high-end items are "crafted" from regular equipment coupled with stones and Demon Souls. I don't know if there are too many special treasure drops that you need to specifically hunt around for as opposed to just naturally find or obtain during the normal course of exploration and beating the level. Things like Winged Spear and Short Compound Bow, I found pretty easily just by killing stuff. I think the Long Compound Bow you can find in the normal course of exploring as well...
 
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Hell yeah. Beat the 1-4 archdemon after figuring out the zig zag path you have to take to make it past the second bridge unscathed. He wasn't as bad as I thought he would be and he only stole one of my soul levels. Killed off the three important npc's in nexus and finished the game at 86 soul level. Kind of sucks having to sit on 100k+ souls until I beat 1-1 in my new game +. Also got the beast talisman thing before I beat the game.
 
[quote name='sotc1988']Hell yeah. Beat the 1-4 archdemon after figuring out the zig zag path you have to take to make it past the second bridge unscathed. He wasn't as bad as I thought he would be and he only stole one of my soul levels. Killed off the three important npc's in nexus and finished the game at 86 soul level. Kind of sucks having to sit on 100k+ souls until I beat 1-1 in my new game +. Also got the beast talisman thing before I beat the game.[/QUOTE]

Hey, that's exactly what I did today, although I lost three soul levels on the final boss to finish at 86. :bomb:

I started my New Game + and breezed through 1-1 without dying. I thought "This ain't so tough," but now I'm quickly realizing I need to sharpen my skills. The rolling skeletons are a lot tougher. I beat the 4-1 boss on the first try in the last game. This time I've died four times and I haven't even gotten any good licks on him.

Killing all those NPCs at the end of the first game and putting myself in CT Pure Black is a pain in my butt right now. Especially when I choked away two chances at killing invading black phantoms.
 
Rats, I'm nowhere near finishing New Game. I don't think I can handle pure black WT enemies, lol.

It's cool that they can do that, though. Very MMO for a technically non-MMO game.
 
Awesome - and I get home late Friday night. Saturday will be a busy day - hopefully they keep it running till at least midnight Pacific and don't just do that Eastern time zone crap.

This means maybe I can farm some spiderstones in world 2 in addition to the other black WT events.

Here's the problem though: normally killing the black phantom + primeval demon would raise the WT back to near pure white. So what happens on this day? Will it stay black just for the day and then go back to near pure white if you do those things, or just back to where it was before?
 
I'll definitely be playing even though I doubt I'll get very far. Hoping drops are slightly improved for regular enemies...curious to see what other changes they can make for the game.
 
Sounds like an all-day event, but really they didn't specify exactly.

Maybe I'll start yet another game save just to fool around.
 
[quote name='gunm']Sounds like an all-day event, but really they didn't specify exactly.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, if anyone sees clarification, make sure to pass it on!

Was also a great way to keep it in the news and on people's minds. Go Atlus!
 
[quote name='io']Here's the problem though: normally killing the black phantom + primeval demon would raise the WT back to near pure white. So what happens on this day? Will it stay black just for the day and then go back to near pure white if you do those things, or just back to where it was before?[/QUOTE]
Guess we'll find out. On a side note, how awesome would it be if primeval demons weren't one spawn per playthrough? You could just farm colorless demon's souls all day long!
 
[quote name='Jodou']Guess we'll find out. On a side note, how awesome would it be if primeval demons weren't one spawn per playthrough? You could just farm colorless demon's souls all day long![/QUOTE]

This... I was secretly hoping they would at least respawn once that day... :lol:
 
[quote name='Jodou']Guess we'll find out. On a side note, how awesome would it be if primeval demons weren't one spawn per playthrough? You could just farm colorless demon's souls all day long![/QUOTE]

I was lucky enough to get one on the one and only primeval demon I've faced so far. But then I saw that one miracle requires THREE of them! D'oh!
 
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