Dexter Season 4 FINALE 9/27 THIS SUNDAY 9 PM EST!

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I was thinking that was a viable option. But that seemed a bit to contrived to me.
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Then how would you explain him putting Harrison in the blood? Just a coincidence?
 
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Then how would you explain him putting Harrison in the blood? Just a coincidence?
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Could be. Or it could be that Harrison just crawled to find his mother since he would have been alone for several hours.
 
[quote name='thehuskerfan']
Harrison = Harry's Son = Dexter.. Very clever writers.
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or he's just named after Harry whose full name is probably Harrison.
 
[quote name='gareman']
Could be. Or it could be that Harrison just crawled to find his mother since he would have been alone for several hours.
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Actually it makes more sense if it was intentional. The cycle was broken since the older children were with Mickey Mouse. I figured that out when you wantchTrinity's last moment, how he came to peace with everything he's done and his words take on a prophetic meaning.

His last kill insured his vengeance was carried out against the loved one, destroyed Dexter's fragile balance and condemned himself and his son down the path of destruction.
 
[quote name='gareman']
Could be. Or it could be that Harrison just crawled to find his mother since he would have been alone for several hours.
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Very unlikely. The blood pooled around Harrison wasn't disturbed, so he clearly couldn't have crawled through it. Either he was placed there, or he crawled there and just sat for a time long enough for the blood to pool around him, yet it is unlikely he would be undisturbed seeing as how he is a baby.
 
WOW. I just watched 40 hours of Dexter (Seasons 1-4) in one week and it was just gripping. What an amazing show. Michael C Hall really sells the character. He makes even the most mundane thoughts funny.
Rita dieing was just .... not foreseen. The tension between Dex and Trinity in the last two episodes was awesome
 
I can't watch a series week by week. Even Lost loses power when you've got to wait a week and sit through commercials on top of that.

Watching a series set in a marathon session, even if you have to waste a few nights of your spare time, is the only way to go.
 
My favorite scene was in season 4:
the Thanksgiving scene where Dexter takes Trinity by the neck and tells him "I should of fucking killed you when I had the chance" with the knife behind his back.
 
Yes, that was one of my favorite scenes to. The scenes in which Dex let's his dark side come out on impulse are great.
Like the scene in Season 2 where Dex just kicks Dokes (?) ass at the shipping container yard. Or in this season where he just throws Quinn to the floor. Awesome
BUT
the last scene of Season 4 is by far the best. I was not expecting anything to happen and when it was just ending normally I was a little dissapointed and all the sudden WAY TOO much happened... I was speechless
 
I had it ruined for me. I was doing a google search to confirm or deny some rumor that season 5 would be the last and in the page snippet it said
do we still really need to use these bullshit tags nearly a week after the fucking finale?
was would be killed off.
 
I watched this as a way to relax before some finals for school a few days ago, and it really messed me up. After reading some of the explanations in this post, it kind of makes sense, but it still seems like a lazy, pointless shock ending to garner press. I really love this show, and I'm not really affected emotionally by TV, but that ending really made me feel...bad. Does anybody else feel that way? I really can't imagine how they will pull off another season with the new "situation".
 
Amazing season finale.

Almost as good as Season 1, which was hard to do.

Wish it was Deb though at the end instead of Rita.
 
I really didn't mind this season waiting every week because I knew they would all be good. If it was any other season or any other show I'd say marathon.
 
Watched seasons 1-3 at the end of summer and waited until it was all said and done to marathon through season 4. Holy fuck, it was brilliant from the very beginning to the very end. I'm still just stunned after seeing the finale. Season 5 is going to be great.
 
I believe what would have been lazy is if
Dexter killed Trinity and went on vacation. This is a complete deviation from the season 1-3 finales. Someone Dexter is extremely close to is gone. What will happen next???? Hell even if it was Deb it would have still been powerful and a game changer.
 
@ evildeadjedi: I see your point, but after reading that they decided to write this event into the show really late in the season, it seemed tacked on.
The setup for Deb getting whacked made sense, but there was no context for Rita dying except the phone call about forgetting her ID, which I completely missed and read in this thread. Even with my lack of perception, that ending just seemed kind of pointless.
I agree that it's time for a change of pace, though.
 
Deb's acting is terrible IMO.

And they wrote off Rita at the end, because the writer's realized they couldn't just do what they did the previous seasons (1-3) where Dexter just kills the bad guy and everything's all good.

Season 1: Kills Ice Truck Killer.
Season 2: Doakes/Lyla. Engaged to Rita.
Season 3: Kills the Tree dude. Marries Rita.
 
[quote name='slickkill77']I was hoping for Deb. I got sick of her recycled f bombs and the constant crying/bitching about her men.[/QUOTE]

Well,
I thought Trinity would have killed Deb, Rita's older son from Paul, and Rita. Out of those three, Rita seemed the most plausible given the actress who plays Deb and her relationship wit Michael C. Hall. Deb herself is a bit more vital that Rita (see: the scene where she tells Dexter how he gave her confidence). I thought the writers had more balls and would kill off one of Rita's kids, though. Killing off Rita and either Rita's son with Paul or Harrison would have presented a much greater dilemma for Dexter. :whistle2:k
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Deb's acting is terrible IMO.

And they wrote off Rita at the end, because the writer's realized they couldn't just do what they did the previous seasons (1-3) where Dexter just kills the bad guy and everything's all good.

Season 1: Kills Ice Truck Killer.
Season 2: Doakes/Lyla. Engaged to Rita.
Season 3: Kills the Tree dude. Marries Rita.[/QUOTE]
Really? I find the actress that plays Deb to be really great. Her character is not THAT likable, but she does an amazing job - especially conveying extreme emotions. She is a great contrast for Dex.
 
I was over at a friend's house and she had the soup on. The fucking told the whole season 4 in a nutshell and spoiled everything. I fucking hate that show even more. Not cool.
 
Just got done watching this. I waited until the season was over, and avoided spoilers thankfully, and watched it all in 3 days. This show is just plain awesome, one of my favorites. Definitely did not see the ending coming, and I too am not sure where they are going to go with this.

I am guessing that is next season is the last, it will culminate with Deb vs. Dexter, with Deb having to make a choice on what to do.
 
I'm so pissed. Sounds like everyone was truly shocked by the ending. I inadvertently read half of a spoiler before realizing it was a spoiler.
It basically said "she" and "killed off." I was expecting it was going to be Deb or Rita. When Dex got home and her cellphone rang from inside the house I just said "fuck!", not because I cared she died (she served no purpose in the grand scheme of things) but because that spoiler took away a lot of the suspense. Guess we'll never get the full story about her first husband.
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']I'm so pissed. Sounds like everyone was truly shocked by the ending. I inadvertently read half of a spoiler before realizing it was a spoiler.
It basically said "she" and "killed off." I was expecting it was going to be Deb or Rita. When Dex got home and her cellphone rang from inside the house I just said "fuck!", not because I cared she died (she served no purpose in the grand scheme of things) but because that spoiler took away a lot of the suspense. Guess we'll never get the full story about her first husband.
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What story do you think is missing? I got everything out of it I needed to know. Abusive , drug-addicted ex-husband who Dexter
injected with heroin and beat in the face with a frying pan.
That was some of the most satisfying TV I've ever seen.

Also, I know at this point in the series that's not really a spoiler, but it's so hilariously bad-ass it needs to be in bright red letters.
 
[quote name='slickkill77']He means the first husband not Paul[/QUOTE]

Third time's a charm ;)

Maybe he'll end up being the 'villain' next season?
 
I'm caught up on all 4 seasons now. The spoiler at the end of season 4 pleased me immensely, as I had been clamoring for that to happen for some time now.

Rita's role had two faces: horny Rita and nagging/crying Rita. Her character dragged the show down because she was so demanding and whiny. I was saying I wished she would die around the 3rd episode of season 4. I got my wish. Yay!

I know it's not popular opinion, but Jimmy Smits' performance as Miguel Prado was fucking fantastic. A lot of good tension and back-and-forth in that season. I've heard a few people say that was their least favorite, but I think it was a good bit better than the 4th season. Not that I disliked any of them.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'm caught up on all 4 seasons now. The spoiler at the end of season 4 pleased me immensely, as I had been clamoring for that to happen for some time now.

Rita's role had two faces: horny Rita and nagging/crying Rita. Her character dragged the show down because she was so demanding and whiny. I was saying I wished she would die around the 3rd episode of season 4. I got my wish. Yay!
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That is why you don't get married...
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'm caught up on all 4 seasons now. The spoiler at the end of season 4 pleased me immensely, as I had been clamoring for that to happen for some time now.
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Lol, you're indulging in all the good shows lately. The Wire, now Dexter. And props for standing up to the anti-Smits crowd. Hopefully Lithgow wins the Emmy Smits was robbed of.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
I know it's not popular opinion, but Jimmy Smits' performance as Miguel Prado was fucking fantastic. A lot of good tension and back-and-forth in that season. I've heard a few people say that was their least favorite, but I think it was a good bit better than the 4th season. Not that I disliked any of them.[/QUOTE]

I'll never understand anyone who didn't like Smits' performance. He was awesome. Yeah, that season lacked some of the high-wire tension of season 4 (which I personally think was the best) but Smits was amazing, and absolutely should have won an Emmy. Lithgow definitely should (and I think will).
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']Lol, you're indulging in all the good shows lately. The Wire, now Dexter. And props for standing up to the anti-Smits crowd. Hopefully Lithgow wins the Emmy Smits was robbed of.[/QUOTE]

By the by, like you, I accidentally came across the major spoiler on the main Dexter IMDB page about 5 episodes into the season.

some fucker started a thread titles "how did miller have the time to kill Rita???" or somesuch nonsense.

Stay away from the internet forever - that's the lesson I learned.

So it was anticlimactic for me; which is good enough, I suppose, as had I been truly caught off guard by it, my wife would freak out at my rampant applauding, cheering, and cartwheels from celebrating over that moment.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I'll never understand anyone who didn't like Smits' performance. He was awesome. Yeah, that season lacked some of the high-wire tension of season 4 (which I personally think was the best) but Smits was amazing, and absolutely should have won an Emmy. Lithgow definitely should (and I think will).[/QUOTE]


Smits was good in that show "Cane" that only lasted a few episodes, too.
 
I'll join the pro-Prado crowd. He started off relatively normal by Dexter standards, and eventually become borderline psychotic.

Lithgow's nominated for a Golden Globe for his performance, and his competition is fairly weak. He's up against Michael Emerson (Lost), Neil Patrick Harris (How I Met Your Mother), William Hurt (Damages), and Jeremy Piven (Entourage). Of those, I immediately discount NPH and Piven. I've never seen Damages, so I can't comment on William Hurt. I figure Emerson's the biggest threat to Lithgow, as he's won awards for Lost before. Should be interesting.

Dexter's up against Big Love, True Blood, House, and Mad Men for best TV drama.
 
Add me to Pro Smits camp. I thought his performance was great and full of unappreciated depth. I think a lot of people don't realize that his character was completely misunderstood. Prado was very tragic character in the fact that he accepted Dexter for all his faults and mistakes (like Prado's concept of family), and all he wanted was for Dexter to do the same for him...like how he believes brothers should treat one and another. However, Dexter is far too dogmatic and too much of loner for him to ever understand much less accept that kind of relationship.

I rewatched the later half of season 3 again after coming to this realization and I almost disliked Dexter and felt nothing but empathy for Prado. Smits presented the conflicts that happened between him and Hall as anger, bullying, and intimidation but with a underlining sense of pain, frustration, and almost confusion of Dexter lack of acceptance and true understanding after Prado offer him so much of himself to Dexter.

edit: Hopefully my comment was vague enough to not warrant spoilers and clear enough to make sense.
 
[quote name='JJSP']Dexter's up against Big Love, True Blood, House, and Mad Men for best TV drama.[/QUOTE]

I like True Blood, House, and Mad Men but... if Lithgow doesn't own everyone in his category(s) it will be an EPIC FAIL. No clue what categories or how many he'd be in...
 
[quote name='gareman']Add me to Pro Smits camp. I thought his performance was great and full of unappreciated depth. I think a lot of people don't realize that his character was completely misunderstood. Prado was very tragic character in the fact that he accepted Dexter for all his faults and mistakes (like Prado's concept of family), and all he wanted was for Dexter to do the same for him...like how he believes brothers should treat one and another. However, Dexter is far too dogmatic and too much of loner for him to ever understand much less accept that kind of relationship.

I rewatched the later half of season 3 again after coming to this realization and I almost disliked Dexter and felt nothing but empathy for Prado. Smits presented the conflicts that happened between him and Hall as anger, bullying, and intimidation but with a underlining sense of pain, frustration, and almost confusion of Dexter lack of acceptance and true understanding after Prado offer him so much of himself to Dexter.

edit: Hopefully my comment was vague enough to not warrant spoilers and clear enough to make sense.[/QUOTE]

Very well said. I think the show did a subtle, but adequate, job of showing how Dexter's persona made the relationship he had with Prado was unsustainable.

Prado is not an empathetic character, IMO, only if you perceive Harry Morgan (or Dexter's conscience, however you view Harry as a recurring character) as infallible. But I think that's a hard thing to buy into, even if you view "The Code" as a solid ideal. It has inherent limitations to it, and the show does a great job of exploring the complexity brought on by adhering to it (which makes the season 4 surprise all the more necessary).
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Very well said. I think the show did a subtle, but adequate, job of showing how Dexter's persona made the relationship he had with Prado was unsustainable.

Prado is not an empathetic character, IMO, only if you perceive Harry Morgan (or Dexter's conscience, however you view Harry as a recurring character) as infallible. But I think that's a hard thing to buy into, even if you view "The Code" as a solid ideal. It has inherent limitations to it, and the show does a great job of exploring the complexity brought on by adhering to it (which makes the season 4 surprise all the more necessary).[/QUOTE]

I didn't empathize with a few of Prado's actions
Killing Ellen Wolf
, but I empathized with the fact that he was was so accepting of Dexter and may have not agreed with all of Dexter's code that a friendship was more important than a few degrees of subjective "what makes a bad person bad enough to die".

I empathize with Prado because not only did Dexter just walk away from their friendship--he added to Prado's ordeal. Prado expected Dexter to be upset but that he would still help him.....Prado felt betrayed and panicked and had the one person, a friend no less, the only person whom could help him dismiss him thus lead to Prado taking extreme measures and trying to
kill La Guetra
. I truly believe that if Dexter had accepted his "mistake"
Prado would have accepted that Dexter Killed Oscar
.

I would really like the last season to touch on this subject and have Dexter realize what Prado was trying to teach him.

My favorite line by Smits is on the rooftop where he screams "I will fuck you back!" it was screamed with such anger fear and frustration and then hit cuts to Dexter whom has only an empty hallow "you deserve to die" look on his face.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']By the by, like you, I accidentally came across the major spoiler on the main Dexter IMDB page about 5 episodes into the season.

some fucker started a thread titles "how did miller have the time to kill Rita???" or somesuch nonsense.

Stay away from the internet forever - that's the lesson I learned.

So it was anticlimactic for me; which is good enough, I suppose, as had I been truly caught off guard by it, my wife would freak out at my rampant applauding, cheering, and cartwheels from celebrating over that moment.[/QUOTE]

For me it was a spoiler on some random blog, talking about
a major female character that was being killed off. I averted my eyes quickly enough to miss the character name, but had narrowed it down to Deb or Rita since Laguerta had her brush with death (albeit an unaware brush) involving Pado and I figured they wouldn't put her in the crosshairs again so soon. I must admit there was a lot of added tension for me watching the finale though. When Trinity was in Deb's apartment, I was worried it might be Deb. But at the end when Dex returned to an empty home and Rita's phone rung, I knew in that split second it was her. Still, it was a satisfying finale. Rita ceased to be an interesting character, only having that one unresolved hint of her character evolving when Dex found out she had a husband before Paul, the character became expendable and the death somewhat necessary. And you have to admit the baby sitting in blood spliced with Little Dex in that shipping container was rather poetic.
A good finale, with the next season able to go in any number of directions.
 
Smits needed like 2 or 3 more shows.... As soon as he was interesting, it was over.

Lithgow was creepy right from the begining, solid performance through and through.

4>3>1>2 in preference to seasons...
 
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