Douchebag living downstairs: Advice

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Today was pretty much the last straw for this douchebag. He plays loud music during the worst hours of the day and has the biggest entitlement personality I've ever seen (trust fund baby?). Here is a draft of the complaint letter we are sending to management:

This letter is a formal complaint against the tenant(s) of 4118 to Management. On March 25, 2009, at approximately 10:00 A.M., Ms. DoK (Ms. DoK), the fiancée and guest during Ms. DoK’s Spring Break of Mr. DoK’s Fiance (Mr. DoK’s Fiance), tenant of 4120 , was woken up by loud music coming from 4118 . Mr. DoK’s Fiance was at work at the time and not present. Ms. DoK attempted to continue to sleep and try to ignore the music but could not. At approximately 10:45 A.M., Ms. DoK went downstairs and knocked on the door of 4118 at the advice of Mr. DoK’s Fiance via phone. A male (henceforth known as “Tenant”) opened the door and an unleashed large brown dog exited the apartment and pounced on Ms. DoK while barking loudly. Tenant did not immediately restrain the dog and instead Tenant spat saliva over the balcony. Ms. DoK told Tenant to please restrain the dog and Tenant yelled at the dog to reenter the apartment, which the dog did. Ms. DoK referred to the dog as a “he” and Tenant decided to correct Ms. DoK and say the dog was a “her.” Ms. DoK then told Tenant that she could hear loud music from his apartment and that it was not the first time that music had been heard, and that it was really bothering her. Ms. DoK did not tell Tenant which apartment she was from. She told him to please consider that different people have different schedules and to please turn down the music. Tenant yelled at Ms. DoK and told her that he likes to listen to music while getting ready for work or a business trip. Tenant then said that if it bothers Ms. DoK to file a formal complaint and to “get a house.” Tenant told Ms. DoK not to bother him again and banged the door shut. Ms. DoK then called Mr. DoK’s Fiance and Mr. DoK’s Fiance arrived at 4120 at approximately 11:10 A.M. to go with Ms. DoK to complain to Management. Mr. DoK’s Fiance and Ms. DoK spoke to Patti Mayonnaise, who told them to write a written complaint as documented here.

This incident is not the first time Mr. DoK’s Fiance has dealt with the tenant(s) of 4118 . The tenant(s) play loud music on a daily basis and often during early (8:00 A.M.-on) and late (11:00 P.M.-on) hours. The most recent time loud music was heard from 4118 prior to incident of March 25, 2009, was at 11:00 P.M. the previous night.

There were two instances approximately one month ago where Mr. DoK’s Fiance had personally spoken with the tenant(s) of 4118 to complain of the loud music. Mr. DoK’s Fiance knocked on the door of 4118 approximately one month ago around 8:30 A.M. on a weekday and first spoke to a blonde woman, who apologized and turned down the music, but it was still loud and audible. Mr. DoK’s Fiance returned about ten minutes later to inform the tenant(s) of this and male Tenant from March 25, 2009, answered and was equally as belligerent as on March 25, 2009. The blonde woman restrained the dog on the previous date and it did not exit the apartment. Since this incident approximately one month ago, Mr. DoK’s Fiance and Ms. DoK attempted to ignore and try to live with 4118 ’s loud music without contacting Management, but the situation did not improve.

Additionally, Mr. DoK’s Fiance and Ms. DoK have noticed multiple occurrences where trash was left directly outside of 4118 for several days at a time.
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Summary: Assmaster lives below me and my fiance and plays crappy loud music all the time. We have complained 3 times to them. Today I went to complain and the guy's dog jumped on me while the guy spat over the balcony with no attempt to restrain the dog until I yelled at him to. Guy told me to "buy a house" if I had a problem with his music. We went to complain to apartment management and they told us to write this letter. They also leave trash outside their apartment for several days at a time when the dumpster is like 50 feet or less away. So they were in violation of 3 terms of their lease (loud music disrupting others, dog outside the apt without a leash, and trash left outside overnight and not in the dumpster). I'm sure nothing will really be resolved though.

My questions are: Is there anything else we can do? We plan on documenting every new incidence of noise as advised by the apartment management. The management also said we may call the police, but we are wondering if that will help at all or do anything. My fiance seems inclined to think that the police won't do shit since it's not a public noise problem (unless it's really loud you can't hear it from outside). The guy is also an obvious entitlement queen and will probably think he's above the law. However, I've talked to a few people and they think otherwise. What does CAG think?
 
During hours where they are not playing music, play your music loud and dance around the house to make pounding noises.

And you can always stick doggy treats in your pocket and go talk to them again. If the dog seems like it's trying to attack you, call animal control on them.
 
I'm glad you went to the tenant living there first. After you send the letter to the management office, start calling the cops.

They should notify the management directly after subsequent complaints, and you'll have your complaint letter on file already, giving the landlord more ammo to evict.
 
I put Patti Mayonnaise to conceal names. The person we talked to at management was named Patti so I just added the Mayonnaise in. Yes I'm a Doug fan.

[quote name='shieryda']I'm glad you went to the tenant living there first. After you send the letter to the management office, start calling the cops.

They should notify the management directly after subsequent complaints, and you'll have your complaint letter on file already, giving the landlord more ammo to evict.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the serious reply. That makes a lot of sense. Also, someone else said I should talk to their immediate neighbors (on the sides of them) and ask if they have issues. Good idea?
 
Also, take pictures of the trash. You could always call the cops about the dog, too. Does your city have a leash ordinance?

Also, someone else said I should talk to their immediate neighbors (on the sides of them) and ask if they have issues. Good idea?
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Yes. The more people who side with you, the better. Your neighbors may be too afraid to make a complaint, or don't want to do it themselves.

I used to hate having the cops come to bust up a party, rather than have the neighbors ask us to politely turn down the music. We would have been more than happy to comply, had we known that it was bothering the neighbors, and had they asked us themselves.
 
No leash law here according to Google, which is bullshit considering how most people around here can't control their dogs. But I am pretty sure it is against apartment complex policy. And the dog basically assaulted me, if it were a person, so I could probably mention that to the cops.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']No leash law here according to Google, which is bullshit considering how most people around here can't control their dogs. But I am pretty sure it is against apartment complex policy. And the dog basically assaulted me, if it were a person, so I could probably mention that to the cops.[/quote]

You could still call the cops about the aggressive dog.
 
I'd start withholding my rent, if you pay it into an account you should be able to prove you're withholding and not just refusing to pay.

I'd want the apartment management to do something about this. I've not had this problem but I remember our management company telling us we should go and talk to people if they're making a noise. Frankly my attitude was no freaking way, thats how you end up getting shot by some psycho. It's good that you did that first I guess.
 
Could be worse... Could be ABOVE you.

Anyway, fill the bathtub and let it leak though the floor. Have a kids B-day party at 3am?
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']No leash law here according to Google, which is bullshit considering how most people around here can't control their dogs. But I am pretty sure it is against apartment complex policy. And the dog basically assaulted me, if it were a person, so I could probably mention that to the cops.[/quote]You need to call Wade Blasingame, Esq.
 
[quote name='benjamouth']I'd start withholding my rent, if you pay it into an account you should be able to prove you're withholding and not just refusing to pay.

I'd want the apartment management to do something about this. I've not had this problem but I remember our management company telling us we should go and talk to people if they're making a noise. Frankly my attitude was no freaking way, thats how you end up getting shot by some psycho. It's good that you did that first I guess.[/quote]

Don't start withholding rent. Your best move is to document noise complaints, keep contacting the office, and eventually escalate to the police. Make sure you date and document noise issues before contacting the police though.

If you want the landlord/management to stay on your side, pay them on time.
 
[quote name='Quillion']Don't start withholding rent. Your best move is to document noise complaints, keep contacting the office, and eventually escalate to the police. Make sure you date and document noise issues before contacting the police though.

If you want the landlord/management to stay on your side, pay them on time.[/QUOTE]
Agreed 100%. We aren't gonna withold rent, that'll just piss off management. We've lived here much longer than these douches and have always paid rent early. They just moved in a couple months ago and already have violated 3 parts of their contract lease. I think we have the upper hand already.
 
The girlfriend and I had a similar problem with our neighbors downstairs. At the slightest noise, he would somehow start banging on his ceiling to let us know that he was home. He did it so frequently that one day I went downstairs with a bat and threatened to beat his ass if he persisted.. it has not happened since. That was pretty much the last resort.. but before when he did it, we would just stomp on the ground back and have really loud and over exaggerated sex. What I found out is that you can't be civil with douchebags like that. My girlfriend and her roommates went down several times and the creep basically just hit on all of them with his ugly mug. Anyway, being 6'1, 190 pounds and Asian helped I think.. seeing how the general consensus is that Asians know karate.. and being tall means I know bigger karate? :bouncy:
 
[quote name='mis0']The girlfriend and I had a similar problem with our neighbors downstairs. At the slightest noise, he would somehow start banging on his ceiling to let us know that he was home. He did it so frequently that one day I went downstairs with a bat and threatened to beat his ass if he persisted.. it has not happened since. That was pretty much the last resort.. but before when he did it, we would just stomp on the ground back and have really loud and over exaggerated sex. What I found out is that you can't be civil with douchebags like that. My girlfriend and her roommates went down several times and the creep basically just hit on all of them with his ugly mug. Anyway, being 6'1, 190 pounds and Asian helped I think.. seeing how the general consensus is that Asians know karate.. and being tall means I know bigger karate? :bouncy:[/quote]
You're lucky he didn't press charges for assault.
 
[quote name='mis0']The girlfriend and I had a similar problem with our neighbors downstairs. At the slightest noise, he would somehow start banging on his ceiling to let us know that he was home. He did it so frequently that one day I went downstairs with a bat and threatened to beat his ass if he persisted.. it has not happened since. That was pretty much the last resort.. but before when he did it, we would just stomp on the ground back and have really loud and over exaggerated sex. What I found out is that you can't be civil with douchebags like that. My girlfriend and her roommates went down several times and the creep basically just hit on all of them with his ugly mug. Anyway, being 6'1, 190 pounds and Asian helped I think.. seeing how the general consensus is that Asians know karate.. and being tall means I know bigger karate? :bouncy:[/QUOTE]

My fiance is Asian, 6', and 150 pounds. I'm Italian, 5'1", and 95 pounds. Somehow I don't think this guy thinks we're intimidating, especially with his aggressive dog. I think we're just gonna go by the books for now.
 
[quote name='Quillion']Don't start withholding rent. Your best move is to document noise complaints, keep contacting the office, and eventually escalate to the police. Make sure you date and document noise issues before contacting the police though.

If you want the landlord/management to stay on your side, pay them on time.[/quote]

Yeah great, but until then you have to put up with the noise, plus OP has already been to the office 3 times, when are they going to do something.

Maybe it's just cos I pay a shit load of rent or something, but if this happened more than once I'd want something done, pronto.

Mind you if this was me I'd just wack the volume on my sound system up to full blast and play my 360 all night, if nothing else you won't have to listen to his music any more.
 
buy a house...

I'm all honesty, can they even do anything about him playing loud music at 10 AM?... that's plenty late enough, 8:30 AM may be pushing it.

When I lived in an apartment I once lived next to these pre-med girls, and once I put on loud music during the Yankee game at 8PM and I hear her banging on the wall for me to turn it down.... Saturday night at 8 PM?? fuck off... I'm a nice kid so I turned it off, I was leaving in 20 mins anyway.

My roommate used to play movies and music SO loud at 2 AM, he didn't give a shit... I guess since I have moved out, he gets a little more into loud banging with his girlfriend and the people underneath him bang on the ceiling when he is fucking her... I think that's pretty damn funny.

fuck apartments, they suck. So glad I own something and don't have to hear shit.
 
[quote name='benjamouth']Yeah great, but until then you have to put up with the noise, plus OP has already been to the office 3 times, when are they going to do something.

Maybe it's just cos I pay a shit load of rent or something, but if this happened more than once I'd want something done, pronto.

Mind you if this was me I'd just wack the volume on my sound system up to full blast and play my 360 all night, if nothing else you won't have to listen to his music any more.[/quote]
Dealing with shitty tenants isn't easy for a landlord. They can't just evict without going through a great many steps. That's why they're asking for a written complaint.

Besides, why punish the landlord for something that really isn't their fault, and only barely under their control?
 
[quote name='benjamouth']Yeah great, but until then you have to put up with the noise, plus OP has already been to the office 3 times, when are they going to do something.

Maybe it's just cos I pay a shit load of rent or something, but if this happened more than once I'd want something done, pronto.

Mind you if this was me I'd just wack the volume on my sound system up to full blast and play my 360 all night, if nothing else you won't have to listen to his music any more.[/QUOTE]

I think you misread my post. I haven't been to the office 3 times. We've been to this guy's apartment 3 times. Today was the first time we went to the rental office.
 
[quote name='Quillion']Dealing with shitty tenants isn't easy for a landlord. They can't just evict without going through a great many steps. That's why they're asking for a written complaint.

Besides, why punish the landlord for something that really isn't their fault, and only barely under their control?[/quote]

Because they're the ones I'm paying. I don't really care if it isn't their fault, they're the ones I pay, so they're the ones I expect to deal with it.

Besides I'm not exactly expecting them to evict straight away, but I do expect them to send a written warning or something.

[quote name='Dead of Knight']I think you misread my post. I haven't been to the office 3 times. We've been to this guy's apartment 3 times. Today was the first time we went to the rental office.[/quote]

Ahh ok, my mistake then, well it will be interesting to see what they do. Maybe I am being unreasonable and they will take care of it.
 
[quote name='benjamouth']
Ahh ok, my mistake then, well it will be interesting to see what they do. Maybe I am being unreasonable and they will take care of it.[/QUOTE]

They probably won't take care of it, but right now isn't the time to get upset with them as it's their move whenever we give them the letter.
 
[quote name='joe2187']I can honestly and truthfully say...I have never felt fear in the presence of anyone of Asian ethnicity.[/quote]

It is true that Bruce Lee is no longer with us.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']buy a house...

I'm all honesty, can they even do anything about him playing loud music at 10 AM?... that's plenty late enough, 8:30 AM may be pushing it.

When I lived in an apartment I once lived next to these pre-med girls, and once I put on loud music during the Yankee game at 8PM and I hear her banging on the wall for me to turn it down.... Saturday night at 8 PM?? fuck off... I'm a nice kid so I turned it off, I was leaving in 20 mins anyway.

My roommate used to play movies and music SO loud at 2 AM, he didn't give a shit... I guess since I have moved out, he gets a little more into loud banging with his girlfriend and the people underneath him bang on the ceiling when he is fucking her... I think that's pretty damn funny.

fuck apartments, they suck. So glad I own something and don't have to hear shit.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's more the 8 AM bullshit we've had to put up with that pisses us off. 10 AM wasn't really a big deal but it was just about the millionth time we've heard music coming from their place and I was getting really upset so I decided to go down there. Almost every weekday morning from 8-9AM you can hear shittastic music coming from their apartment. My boyfriend is generally up for work by then but I'm not.
 
Even though the situation sucks and I do feel for you, I'm not sure how much your landlord is going to do about it. Like someone said and you commented on, the 10am isn't going to mean anything. I think in my apartment complex according to my lease, I could basically play the drums in my apartment until 9pm and nothing could be done to me. Check in your lease and see how the actual rules are laid out. Also, a lawyer may be able to answer this, but if it is a noise complaint, that may be better directed at the police, but I think it has to past a certain time or really early for them to do something about it.

Short story: we lived upstairs and below us were a mother and daughter who either didn't work or worked a later shift. They used to constantly bitch at us and tell us that we were walking really loudly in the morning (for us it was literally between the hours of 6:00 - 6:30am), while we were getting ready for work. We made a point to carpet our floors and never wear shoes until right before we were ready to leave. They still complained and eventually filed a complaint with the landlord. I basically ended up telling the landlord that we had to live our lives and we weren't changing what we were doing in the morning. Didn't hear anything after that. I guess the moral of the story is that even when someone may have a legitimate complaint, the landlord may not pursue it very far.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal'] Check in your lease and see how the actual rules are laid out.

Short story: we lived upstairs and below us were a mother and daughter who either didn't work or worked a later shift. They used to constantly bitch at us and tell us that we were walking really loudly in the morning (for us it was literally between the hours of 6:00 - 6:30am), while we were getting ready for work. We made a point to carpet our floors and never wear shoes until right before we were ready to leave. They still complained and eventually filed a complaint with the landlord. I basically ended up telling the landlord that we had to live our lives and we weren't changing what we were doing in the morning. Didn't hear anything after that. I guess the moral of the story is that even when someone may have a legitimate complaint, the landlord may not pursue it very far.[/QUOTE]

Already did this. They are against the rules of the lease.

Your neighbors had a far less legitimate complaint than we do. You HAVE to get up and get ready for work at that time. Our neighbors DO NOT HAVE to listen to loud music at 8 AM. It's a matter of necessity versus just being an outright asshole. You and your wife (I'm guessing at the wife thing) actually made it a point to address the neighbors' concerns by carpeting the floor and not wearing shoes until you had to leave. I'm thinking that's why your landlord did not give a flying fuck about what they had to say: you actually made an effort to correct the problem and you weren't being a dick about it. Our neighbors simply don't give a shit about our concerns. If they actually made an effort to not be douchebags I wouldn't mind so much, but it's obvious that this guy thinks he's entitled to be an asshole and that the world revolves around him.
 
You have the upper hand as you live upstairs! You can make many annoying noises to bother them at all times of the night.

However, first contact the apartment people and try to get them to do something about it. It would be terrific if you could get someone from management to come to your place when it is happening!

Good luck!
 
If it was obscenely loud, you should have just directly contacted the property management or police. If it was "audible" you should have let it go.. 10am? C'mon now, if it was 10pm that would be different.
 
[quote name='QiG']If it was obscenely loud, you should have just directly contacted the property management or police. If it was "audible" you should have let it go.. 10am? C'mon now, if it was 10pm that would be different.[/QUOTE]

It was loud enough to wake me up multiple times and I'm a reasonably deep sleeper. When I was living in Guam my then-boyfriend would constantly be woken up by chickens living next to our apartment (they were abandoned by the previous owner of the house when he died or something) at like 5-6am. I NEVER woke up because of them even though they were pretty loud if I heard them while awake.

And like I've posted in the thread several times, they usually do it at far less reasonable hours. In fact, just last night it was pretty much obscenely loud at 11PM. The only reason why I went to them at 10 AM this morning is because I've had enough of it.
 
All I have to say, is thank you for not being an asshole and at least trying to resolve the issue with your neighbors before escalating the issue to management.

We have some old fart around here that doesn't like us, so the first thing he always does is complain to our little town home association without ever attempting to talk to us to resolve the issue, which we would be more than happy to comply with most of the time, provided it is not a dumb complaint.

Best of luck with resolving it. I know exactly how annoying douchbag neighbors can be...
 
[quote name='BlueLobstah']All I have to say, is thank you for not being an asshole and at least trying to resolve the issue with your neighbors before escalating the issue to management.

We have some old fart around here that doesn't like us, so the first thing he always does is complain to our little town home association without ever attempting to talk to us to resolve the issue, which we would be more than happy to comply with most of the time, provided it is not a dumb complaint.

Best of luck with resolving it. I know exactly how annoying douchbag neighbors can be...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I am always willing to compromise and listen to other people's issues. For example, if someone came to my apt about a noise problem, I'd probably drastically decrease the volume or put on headphones and maybe even go to them myself after lowering the volume and asking if it's ok for them. I wouldn't tell them to "go fuck themselves" like this guy. Some people are just incredibly selfish and it really upsets me that some people think they can act this way. Though I suppose these exact kinds of people are what got us into this recession.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']My fiance is Asian, 6', and 150 pounds. I'm Italian, 5'1", and 95 pounds. Somehow I don't think this guy thinks we're intimidating, especially with his aggressive dog. I think we're just gonna go by the books for now.[/quote]

:shock:
DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.... both of you are UNDERWEIGHT!
Both of you need to pack more muscles and gain weight (not fat).


[quote name='joe2187']I can honestly and truthfully say...I have never felt fear in the presence of anyone of Asian ethnicity.[/quote]

Yea me either..


Wait a minute...the dog jumped you? I don't know where you live, but in some places that *might* be considered assault. If it was a playful jump on you, then you can't do shit... but if the dog jumped you , barked and growled while you were pinned down, and the owner did jack..then yea you might have reason to get the police and animal control involved.

Seriously DoK...time for you and the fiance to bulk up. Your gonna need it if that dog jumps you so you can fight back in self defense.

Either that or get a shotgun, but the recoil might throw you back a few feet.
 
We had one noise complaint about a year ago. My roommate had a battle of the bands gig coming up, and was practicing in the garage at 2pm in the afternoon. No one came by and said anything, and a few joggers apparently even stopped and complemented him on his playing.

A week later, we receive a complaint notice in our mail from the association and our land lady that we were playing music too loudly. Pissed me off considering that not one person came by and complained, and he would've been more than happy to turn down if someone said something, not to mention it was 2pm in the afternoon.

But considering they've already disregarded you, you're taking the right steps. If management doesn't do anything, next step is to check your city/county ordinances and see if you can file a complaint with a police. Also, I'm pretty sure in most cities an aggressive dog is considered dangerous and measures can be enforced if the dog is unrestrained (i.e. leash/chain, indoors).
 
This is a very interesting topic for me because I've been through numerous situations like this in the different apartments I've lived in. I'm a musician, so I spend a lot of time playing guitar and singing. But I've always been super conscious of how loud I get (especially if I'm jamming on electric).

Where I live now, it seems no matter what time I start playing...it could be 4 PM, the girl ABOVE me starts stomping around and making noise (it's not like an intentional knocking per se, but she definitely lets me know she's there). It's gotten to a point where it's so distracting, I've started to pay more attention to that than my playing. I'm even half listening for someone (I get the feeling she'd be the type to just call the cops) to start pounding on my front door.

My opinion on it is this, and I think this is something ALL apartment complexes need to adopt. There needs to be a "day time" noise period when it is acceptable to basically be alive and make a fair amount of noise. We all have our routines and hobbies. Some people work out, some people play music, some play Rock Band. If it were me, I would set the hours from 10 AM to 10 PM. 12 hours a day, you shouldn't even have to worry that you're being "too loud". As long as you're not doing something that you could get arrested for, you should be able to enjoy yourself.

My argument for it is this: between those hours, YOU should be doing something as well, so your neighbor's noise shouldn't be the only thing you hear. If you're reading a book, and can't concentrate, put in some earplugs. You can get a giant jar of them at Wal-Mart for $3. They work great! I have noticed a couple times when I've started playing guitar, my upstairs neighbor will turn on music of her own. Good for her! I'd much rather her do that than act like I'm disrupting her life.

The bottom line is, it's a two way street. You can't expect someone to allow you to enjoy your life by telling them to not enjoy theirs. I'm not saying your complaint isn't valid though, because at 8 AM, it definitely is. But every party involved just needs to be reasonable about it. That's the key.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']
Wait a minute...the dog jumped you? I don't know where you live, but in some places that *might* be considered assault. If it was a playful jump on you, then you can't do shit... but if the dog jumped you , barked and growled while you were pinned down, and the owner did jack..then yea you might have reason to get the police and animal control involved.

Seriously DoK...time for you and the fiance to bulk up. Your gonna need it if that dog jumps you so you can fight back in self defense.

Either that or get a shotgun, but the recoil might throw you back a few feet.[/QUOTE]

He didn't pin me down, but he was barking and clawing. I panic around aggressive dogs so it was scary for me. It really pissed me off that the guy didn't do something about it right away and I instead had to ASK about him to.

[quote name='n8rockerasu']This is a very interesting topic for me because I've been through numerous situations like this in the different apartments I've lived in. I'm a musician, so I spend a lot of time playing guitar and singing. But I've always been super conscious of how loud I get (especially if I'm jamming electric).

Where I live now, it seems no matter what time I start playing...it could be 4 PM, the girl ABOVE me starts stomping around and making noise (it's not like an intentional knocking per se, but she definitely lets me know she's there). It's gotten to a point where it's so distracting, I've started to pay more attention to that than my playing. I'm even half listening for someone (I get the feeling she'd be the type to just call the cops) to start pounding on my front door.

My opinion on it is this, and I think this is something ALL apartment complexes need to adopt. There needs to be a "day time" noise period when it is acceptable to basically be alive and make a fair amount of noise. We all have our routines and hobbies. Some people work out, some people play music, some play Rock Band. If it were me, I would set the hours from 10 AM to 10 PM. 12 hours a day, you shouldn't even have to worry that you're being "too loud". As long as you're not doing something that you could get arrested for, you should be able to enjoy yourself.

My argument for it is this: between those hours, YOU should be doing something as well, so your neighbor's noise shouldn't be the only thing you hear. If you're reading a book, and can't concentrate, put in some earplugs. You can get a giant jar of them at Wal-Mart for $3. They work great! I have noticed a couple times when I've started playing guitar, my upstairs neighbor will turn on music of her own. Good for her! I'd much rather her do that than act like I'm disrupting her life.

The bottom line is, it's a two way street. You can't expect someone to allow you to enjoy your life by telling them to not enjoy theirs. I'm not saying your complaint isn't valid though, because at 8 AM, it definitely is. But every party involved just needs to be reasonable about it. That's the key.[/QUOTE]
Good post. The thing is the guy is doing it at shitty hours- 8AM, past 11 PM. My fiance is also a musician but he's conscious about it and would definitely stop if someone came and complained. Like you said, I don't give two shits when the guy has the music blasting at like 5PM. I've also never stomped or anything; the only act we've done is gone down and attempted to talk with them. But apparently HE is the king of the world and can listen to music whenever he wants as long as it doesn't inconvenience HIM.
 
I completely understand where you're coming from. I live in a house but there is this asshole next door who for some reason likes to park his car in front of our house and blast music with the windows open at like 8am or sometimes even at like 1am. It drives me crazy. I've called the police on him once but they never showed up just took my complaint and that was it. I don't think there's much I can do in my case.

But for you. I think you should definitely go ask the other neighbors if he's bothering them with his music as someone already mentioned. If you can get a bunch of people then you might be able to get him kicked out. Other than that I think you should call the police and file a noise complaint every time he does it at least they will have a record of it. I don't think you should turn up your music and try to annoy him because then someone else might get mad at you guys and you'd be no better than him. Anyway I really hope you get it taken care of I know how annoying it can be. Good Luck!
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']He didn't pin me down, but he was barking and clawing. I panic around aggressive dogs so it was scary for me. It really pissed me off that the guy didn't do something about it right away and I instead had to ASK about him to.

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You are going to have to check your local city laws...if a dog is used in that manner and is not under a lease...it might be some sort of violation since it did scare/intimidate you. You might be able to get that dog removed by animal control. Did it's claws leave any visible marks on you? Did you take pictures of said areas?

Seriously check into this... as you might be able to get animal control to take the dog away at best... but if the law is in your favor..you might be able to have the owner charged with some sort of an assault crime. I believe there are laws that pretty much say that if an animal attacks another person and that animal was not on a leashed or not restrained, then the owner could be charged and the animal could be taken away.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']You are going to have to check your local city laws...if a dog is used in that manner and is not under a lease...it might be some sort of violation since it did scare/intimidate you. You might be able to get that dog removed by animal control. Did it's claws leave any visible marks on you? Did you take pictures of said areas?

Seriously check into this... as you might be able to get animal control to take the dog away at best... but if the law is in your favor..you might be able to have the owner charged with some sort of an assault crime. I believe there are laws that pretty much say that if an animal attacks another person and that animal was not on a leashed or not restrained, then the owner could be charged and the animal could be taken away.[/QUOTE]

No marks as I was wearing a heavy coat covering most of my body. Even though the incident happened this morning do you think I could still call the police about it?
 
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