Fallout 3 - Gen. Discussion & Info - 'GOTY' Edition w/All 5 DLC Packs 10.13.09

Well, I beat it.

Is it worth it? Honestly, no. Some of the alien weapons are awesome (the drone cannon is great against machines), but the expansion is VERY short, VERY, VERY repetitive, and there's not much in the way of scenery. The new age spaceship gets pretty old quickly. With all of the lights and stuff everywhere, it's really hard to tell what you can interact with.. thankfully they've added a little hologram above interactable objects. There's only four or five different enemy types.

Anyway, it wasn't too much fun, but at the same time, I don't regret purchasing it.. if that even makes sense.

I've only played OA, Point Lookout and Zeta so far.. I have BS but I haven't done any quests (are there any? or does it just extend the level cap to 30 and let you keep playing after you beat it?). No Pitt yet. I'd rank OA last, Zeta 2nd and PL first. OA would be first in terms of items you can get.. the chinese stealth suit is great.. but Zeta wasn't that great, especially after playing Point Lookout. Zeta should've been released before PL.

In terms of glitches, I had a few.. none of which are game breaking.:

A raider was hanging out of his cyro chamber.
When I targeted an alien, it said my name instead of Alien at the bottom.
The captain's quarters became a frame rate nightmare, and I could see through enemies and allies' heads.

Other than that, it was.. meh.
 
[quote name='Hydro2Oxide']One more month and I get my precious GotY version.[/QUOTE]

October is two months away, homie. October 13th is the date.
 
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I've only played OA, Point Lookout and Zeta so far.. I have BS but I haven't done any quests (are there any? or does it just extend the level cap to 30 and let you keep playing after you beat it?). No Pitt yet. I'd rank OA last, Zeta 2nd and PL first. OA would be first in terms of items you can get.. the chinese stealth suit is great.. but Zeta wasn't that great, especially after playing Point Lookout. Zeta should've been released before PL.
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Broken Steel has quests. Basically go to the citadel to get started on them. To be honest it isn't anywhere near the quality of Point Lookout and really doesn't add that much storyline wise besides kill some more Enclave. I Do agree though that PL is the best one of all the DLC, just the environments and locals make it worth it. That and it also helps to show that the game really does best in open environments as opposed to closed corridors.

Well, looks like Zeta I'll just get if it ever gets a sale on Marketplace.
 
I just came back to the game, and I now have The Pitt and Operation Anchorage due to the disc conga. I'm a n00b when it comes to DLC, so I have a couple questions:

1) Can all sidequests be done if I finish the regular game and then later purchase the DLC which raises the level cap? Same with other DLC. Can that be played after I finish the main game, so long as I purchase Broken Steel?

2) Which should be played first- Op. Anchorage or The Pitt? I'm slightly below level 16, and I just finished "The American Dream"- the second to last story mission. I'm 33 hours into the game, not that that matters.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']I just came back to the game, and I now have The Pitt and Operation Anchorage due to the disc conga. I'm a n00b when it comes to DLC, so I have a couple questions:

1) Can all sidequests be done if I finish the regular game and then later purchase the DLC which raises the level cap? Same with other DLC. Can that be played after I finish the main game, so long as I purchase Broken Steel?

2) Which should be played first- Op. Anchorage or The Pitt? I'm slightly below level 16, and I just finished "The American Dream"- the second to last story mission. I'm 33 hours into the game, not that that matters.[/QUOTE]

i say purchase broken steel before you hit level 20, otherwise you wont gain anymore levels, and if you beat the game before you buy broken steel, you will NOT be able to go back to play other missions (unless you make a seperate save file), broken steel adds that feature though. imo broken steel is the only one so far to be worth $10 and is my favorite dlc out of the 3 i have (i dont have the 2 new ones)
and i say play the dlc in order of when they were released, but it really dosnt matter what order you play them in.
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']I think Point Lookout is well worth it as well. There's a lot of content in it.[/QUOTE]

yeah i want to get that, but i only have 400 points left and i dont have the cash to buy any right now. but that looks interesting, i want m.z also, but not as much as point lookout:whistle2:#
 
I wish the aiens would of had the energy weapons and strength bobbleheads for those who missed them. It would of been a nice touch by Bethesda and could of cut those who have supported the DLC with a bonus. I had to start a new game so I could try to get the CEO achievement...
 
Thanks for the opinions, but I'm still uncertain- If I finish the main quest before getting Broken Steel, can I still continue from that point, or do I need to have broken Steel before I finish the final mission?
 
Hmm... I guess I'm the only one who thoroughly enjoyed Zeta. I thought it was solid and fell absolutely in love with the Disintegrator rifle and Novasurge pistol after snagging the Xenotech Expert perk. After taking another run for the captive recordings achievement I'm probably going to book and bobblehead hunt for better stats, mop up any Behemoths I missed and start BS. Brilliant game is brilliant.

Matt: You need to have downloaded BS before you beat the game because you can't continue on from that point without it. You'll have to either reload a previous save from your original game or start a new game. The BS DLC is the only way you can continue playing the game after beating the last main quest without having to start a new game. If you have any left over business or side quests to take care of I'd suggest you forget about touching the last main quest until you've downloaded the DLC.
 
I'll agree with just about everyone else and say that Zeta is fairly ho-hum. I can't even get myself to finish it, and I love this game. The interesting characters and the recordings is saving it from being as bad as OA.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Thanks for the opinions, but I'm still uncertain- If I finish the main quest before getting Broken Steel, can I still continue from that point, or do I need to have broken Steel before I finish the final mission?[/QUOTE]

You can go ahead and finish it without getting Broken Steel, but make a save right before you do. When you get Broken Steel you can just start from the save right before you finished, and you'll just have to do the final run again.
My save was at the Citadel just before the charge, if that's what you'd like to do as well.

I really liked Broken Steel, and I liked Point Lookout, too. Mothership Zeta was fun, but not quite as good. Be glad you got Operation Anchorage and the Pitt for free.
 
I say Broken Steel is by far the Best, for the improvements and Level Boost, do it at Level 15 at least that gives you room to spread out XP and which skills you want.

Second Best is THE PITT, for Pittsburg mainly because its smaller not a giant wasteland has the Best story of all I think, Plus the best Weapons, the Silenced Scoped Riffle, and the Chainsaw looking yellow weapons, plus some other goodies.


Third place, OPeration Anchorage mainly for the Stealth sneaking suit makes you look like a futuristic Black Ninja, combined with your silenced 10mm, and silenced riffle, and a good knife, if you adjust your character with high sneaking, you can be great at pick pocketing and inflicting massive Critical damage, on enemies when they are not aware of you.

Point Look Out
Mothership Zeta

I don't think fit in like the others do.
 
I've thoroughly played all of the DLCs, and here's how I would rank them:

1) Broken Steel - Mainly because of the level cap increase and new perks. The quests were alright too.
2) Point Lookout - Most content of all the DLCs. Large new area to explore, plus you get to shoot hillbillies with a double barrel .
3) The Pitt - I found the storyline for the quests in "The Pitt" to be the most interesting. The mill worker achievement is a pita, but it you get some cool new toys for doing it.
4) Mothership Zeta - The concept was really nice, but I don't think they pulled it off very well. There was a lot to explore on the ship, but it all looked the same. You can go back to the ship after you're done, but only about half of it is accessible.
5) Operation Anchorage - The only one I feel wasn't worth the 800 points. It's a one time run through that takes 2 hours tops. It's somewhat interesting, because it gives you a first person look at the war before the nuclear fallout. You get a nice prize for finishing it.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']I think I have something like 85 Fallout saves.[/QUOTE]

You're not alone.. I have over 200.. almost 100 hours into it. This is pretty much the only game I play anymore.
 
[quote name='Scorch']You're not alone.. I have over 200.. almost 100 hours into it. This is pretty much the only game I play anymore.[/QUOTE]

I've easily got 150, and I think it makes the loading go so slow. Need to delete some saves. But I love this game and have kept on playing it after I 1000'd it plus the DLC. I really don't mind MZ too much, but its not as good as the others.
 
damn the alien archivist achievement. I missed it the first time because I didn't notice it until I already completed the first two quests. I tried going back but some doors were inaccessible. Just a warning to those collecting logs. Get it early on and don't miss any! You won't be able to get into some rooms once you reach the bridge.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']So I just started the game 2 days ago and have progressed a bit but I was wondering..

I killed the Overseer...is that bad?
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It only makes a difference I want to say about half way through the main story when an optional quest pops up, but it doesn't take away from any of the missions (being someone will take his place).
 
I just got 1550/1550 a few days ago. I had to go back to a save before "Trouble on the Homefront" to get the CEO achievement. I missed that damn bobblehead twice on my first playthrough.

I've got an easly 90+ hours into this game. I'm thinking about starting from the beginning and making a stealth/explosives/melee character. Should be fun and challenging...sneaking up to people and putting a grenade in their pocket, then tearing their friends up Freddy Kreuger-style with the deathclaw weapon.
 
Ok, so as of today I'm on the last mission of Fallout 3. I like it enough that I'd like to buy some extra content to keep the game going. I've just having trouble deciding which ones. Please reply with your suggestions!
 
BS, then Point Lookout, then Pitt, then Mothership Zeta, and finally Anchorage (for the Chinese Stealth Armor alone).

Definitely get BS, though. It ups the level max to 30 and offers the true "ending" to the game. The other will just unlock more content while you level up to 30.
 
I agree. thats pretty much the way to go, except, if you like shooters, you may want to switch around the last three. Zeta and Anchorage are very shooter-friendly.
 
[quote name='Moxio']BS, then Point Lookout, then Pitt, then Mothership Zeta, and finally Anchorage (for the Chinese Stealth Armor alone).

Definitely get BS, though. It ups the level max to 30 and offers the true "ending" to the game. The other will just unlock more content while you level up to 30.[/QUOTE]

nailed it.

Broken steel takes the cake, simply because it raises the level. lookout has plenty of stuff to discover, the pitt is a decent romp. zeta and anchorage are very linear, but enjoyable.
 
Broken Steel only for the level cap and some of the new perks, but in my opinion BEST DLC is Point Lookout. It's a great change of pace from the usual narrow corridors and barren wasteland plus it offers so much more depth to the Fallout lore (the whereabouts of the Pint-Sized Slasher for one). That and the mutated hillbillies are freaky as hell. The only time VATS works against you because they move so damn fast to try and hit you with an axe.
 
[quote name='Moxio']BS, then Point Lookout, then Pitt, then Mothership Zeta, and finally Anchorage (for the Chinese Stealth Armor alone).

Definitely get BS, though. It ups the level max to 30 and offers the true "ending" to the game. The other will just unlock more content while you level up to 30.[/QUOTE]

Yep this is pretty much the consensus among most players.
 
[quote name='Moxio']BS, then Point Lookout, then Pitt, then Mothership Zeta, and finally Anchorage (for the Chinese Stealth Armor alone).

Definitely get BS, though. It ups the level max to 30 and offers the true "ending" to the game. The other will just unlock more content while you level up to 30.[/QUOTE]
OK, I'll probably just get the first two.
 
Does anybody know if the orginal Fallout 3 save will work on the GOTY edition? I want to get rid of my old copy and just pick up the GOTY since I haven't bought any DLC for it yet.
 
I wish I got BS instead of Operation Anchorage and The Pitt. Cause Now I'm at level 19 and then Capped at 20. I guess that's the next add on I will get. Is Mothership Zeta there last add on?
 
[quote name='shieryda']What are the chances that we'll be able to buy the reg. edition of this game, and rent the GotY for the extra dlc to rip to the hdd?[/QUOTE]

I second this motion
 
I got the first 4 dlc for free

Downloaded them from my pc and then transfered the files to my 360 harddrive
 
I started Fallout 3 a couple months ago, but strangely couldn't get into it, even though Oblivion is one of my favorite games on the 360. Started to play again a week ago, and fell in love with it. Beat the main quest in just a few days, and I started another game so that I can go back and do all of the side quests. I thought the last few hours were absolutely fantastic.
Starting with the rescue of Fawkes, which was awesome and it actually made me sad when he said we couldn't hang out since people would probably kill us. Busting out of the Enclave base was really cool, although it got kind of annoying since I got lost a couple times. The twist that the President was a computer was kickass, and making him self destruct was equally cool. And then running with the Transformer was just incredible. I actually didn't notice Liberty Prime until they were activating him even though they mentioned him earlier. I sacrificed my dude at the end, which I thought was a really satisfying ending to the game. Side question: what was that statue of that was shown as you die?

From what I've read, Broken Steel and Point Lookout are the best DLCs, but I think BS sounds the best since it continues the story and raises the level cap (even though I haven't hit 20 yet). Since BS lets you continue your game now, will I be able to go back and do side quests from the game itself for achievements?
 
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[quote name='StickyWaffles']I started Fallout 3 a couple months ago, but strangely couldn't get into it, even though Oblivion is one of my favorite games on the 360. Started to play again a week ago, and fell in love with it. Beat the main quest in just a few days, and I started another game so that I can go back and do all of the side quests. I thought the last few hours were absolutely fantastic.
Starting with the rescue of Fawkes, which was awesome and it actually made me sad when he said we couldn't hang out since people would probably kill us. Busting out of the Enclave base was really cool, although it got kind of annoying since I got lost a couple times. The twist that the President was a computer was kickass, and making him self destruct was equally cool. And then running with the Transformer was just incredible. I actually didn't notice Liberty Prime until they were activating him even though they mentioned him earlier. I sacrificed my dude at the end, which I thought was a really satisfying ending to the game. Side question: what was that statue of that was shown as you die?

From what I've read, Broken Steel and Point Lookout are the best DLCs, but I think BS sounds the best since it continues the story and raises the level cap (even though I haven't hit 20 yet). Since BS lets you continue your game now, will I be able to go back and do side quests from the game itself for achievements?[/QUOTE]

Interesting. I'm having the opposite problem. I played Fallout 3 first..put close to 100 hours into it with all the DLC. Now, I've started Oblivion, and I'm having trouble getting into it.

To answer your question: yes, you can go back and do all the side quests after you beat the game as long as you have BS installed. I should mention that there are 2 bobbleheads that you cannot get after you've completed the game, so you might want to look that up if you're interested in getting that achievement.
 
So I've been thinking about finally picking up Fallout 3 from Goozex. Since I'm late in getting the game, I've missed out on the discs floating around to be able to get the DLC free. I'm assuming that Gamestop is hip to the fact that you don't need the add-on discs once you install them, so they probably won't let you bring it back within the 7 days.

Would I be better off waiting for the GoTY edition, since it is out in 2 months and has all of the DLC?
 
Wait. You can install the DLC from the retail discs, multiple times? I figured they'd have a live code tied to them to make it more restricting like a PC game. Wow. That's actually kind of cool if they kept it open like that.

Kind if wish I would've known that. I would've waited instead of buying them on XBL.


As for jumping in now: wait for the GOTY. I plan on picking up GOTY for the PS3, due to my 360 constantly dying. I had it red ring in the middle of Point Lookout. :cry:

Amazing game, if you can forgive the bugs and general lack of polish in the animations, camera and aiming. Just saying that makes me feel like a douche, but the game really is excellent, despite all of the glaring problems.
 
Thanks for the quick feedback, that's what I figured would be the best Cheap Ass way to go. I decided to snag Tales of Vesperia from Goozex in the mean time.
 
OK guys, I need some advice on this game. I just accepted Moira's last mission (which for me is the Library in Arlington) and for the life of me I can't get into this game. At this point I think my biggest issue is that I am constantly running out of ammo for decent guns (Plasma Rifle, Shotgun, Minigun) which is getting me my ass handed to me. I'm half way through level 7 and don't know if I can keep interest in this game. Does the ammo start to increase and do the missions get any better? If not, this game is getting traded off (which is ironic since I love Oblivion).
 
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