Flash Forward - Thursdays at 8pm/7pm CT on ABC (Not Renewed for a 2nd Season)

I just watched the first two episodes on Hulu. I agree with most of the comments here--good concept, poor implementation so far combined with bad acting and a rushed feel, almost like the writers are in a hurry to explain everything. It's got my interest for now, but I hope it gets better.
 
After watching the first episode and unsure as to how I felt, I decided to give the second one a chance. I got about 10 minutes in, paused it to grab the ringing phone and when I got back realized I didn't care anymore. The premise is really intriguing but I just can't get into it. The characters are so...meh.
 
Watched Episode 2 yesterday. I'm done with the show. If I hear it stops beating the audience over the head with the facts, then I'll probably just wait and watch it during the summer when nothing else is on.
 
Im liking it so far, but i agree the beating us over the head thing is annoying, after all aren't most of the people who are tuning into this show more than likely fans of lost? We've put up with Lost's bullshit after 5 seasons surely we can play the figure it out game.
 
Jeez you guys are tough. I really like it. I admit they are beating us over the head with stuff but I think it is a conscious decision to appeal to morons. Also, I read that the producers/writers want to answer everything as they go to keep viewers from getting frustrated but as it turns out viewers are frustrated no matter what! How did they not know this?
 
Tonight's was decent. Show's kind of good enough to keep me watching, but still have me going into each episode thinking of dropping it.

Hopefully it will pick up like Invasion from a few years ago that was pretty dull for the first 1/3 and then really picked it up. Hopefully it won't have the same fate and end on a cliff hanger and then get canceled!
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']A bit slow tonight, but great ending. Also Gabrielle Union looked phenomenal :drool:.[/QUOTE]
That's like saying the sky is blue amigo...
 
I like the show but I hope that it doesn't have too many seasons or they will destroy it.

I like how its based on the novel Flashforward by Robert J. Sawyer but it is nothing like the book. The book is a good read. Differences (spoilers for both book and TV shows)
based in Europe, see the future of 21 years ahead, not a government/FBI story, nobody walking during the blackout, and I guarantee the ending of the TV show will not be the ending of the book (I wont spoil that)
 
[quote name='PenguinoMF']I like the show but I hope that it doesn't have too many seasons or they will destroy it. [/QUOTE]

thought it was set for 5 seasons?
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']I can't tell what's worse, this show, Dollhouse or Heroes.[/QUOTE]

That's ok. At least you still have Desperate Housewives.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Don't knock it. Desperate Housewives is a damn good show.[/QUOTE]

If you consider watching completely vapid, gold digging bitches influencing how women act in real life a "damn good show", sure. Sorry, I'll pass...but to each their own.
 
I take it you've never watched? Only one of the characters would fit that bill of being a gold digger (Gabby). None of the others have wealthy husbands, and a couple are the bread winners for their families.

But enough on that in the Flashforward thread.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']I can't tell what's worse, this show, Dollhouse or Heroes.[/QUOTE]

Your quality meter is mostly broken (2 out of 3).
 
I'm a Sci-Fi fan , I know that Battlestar Galactica is a very good show , so many people like it . But I never watched it , can anybody here can tell me what it is about?
 
[quote name='pacifickarma']And you think the FlashForward thread is the best place to get info about Battlestar Galactica? Allow me to help: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+battlestar+galactica+about?[/QUOTE]

i was on my way to lmgtfy as soon as i read his post but you beat me to it!

Back on topic,

Im going to give Flashforward to episode 12 to entice me and grab me like Lost and many other tv shows have interested me. I figure if by what I assume episode 12 will be around the half way point of the season im still only mildly curious then it isn't worth my time.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']I can't tell what's worse, this show, Dollhouse or Heroes.[/QUOTE]

Troll alert! Alarms flashing! I'll feed you anyway: Dollhouse by far.

Just watched this week's ep. I think it's getting better, although the ending of last week was superior. Also, I thought D. Gibbons was the guy who died in the clown factory, but now I'm not sure. If he wasn't, then who WAS that guy who blew up the clown place?
 
[quote name='keithp'] Just watched this week's ep. I think it's getting better, although the ending of last week was superior. Also, I thought D. Gibbons was the guy who died in the clown factory, but now I'm not sure. If he wasn't, then who WAS that guy who blew up the clown place?[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure that dude escaped. The only person who died there was the female cop, and not from the explosion.
 
Just watched last weeks episode last night.

It's just barely holding my interest. I'll give it another couple episodes but it has to pick it up to keep me watching.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I just caught up last night. I really like it so far. Gabrielle Union is so freaking hot.[/QUOTE]

Christine Woods is way hotter.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']Christine Woods is way hotter.[/QUOTE]

She doesn't do much for me. I'd have to go with Union as well.
 
[quote name='keithp']Troll alert! Alarms flashing! I'll feed you anyway: Dollhouse by far.

Just watched this week's ep. I think it's getting better, although the ending of last week was superior. Also, I thought D. Gibbons was the guy who died in the clown factory, but now I'm not sure. If he wasn't, then who WAS that guy who blew up the clown place?[/QUOTE]

What the fuck are you talking about? I didn't see any rules that said you had to like the show before you can post here.

But seriously, you guys will watch anything.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Just watched last weeks episode last night.

It's just barely holding my interest. I'll give it another couple episodes but it has to pick it up to keep me watching.[/QUOTE]

All the stupid attempts at humor ruined the episode for me. My interest in the show was fading until the ending with the phone call.
 
Same the ending with the crows and this week's ending with the phone call are the main reasons I haven't given up on it yet.

It's just barely doing enough to keep me from canceling my DVR series recording.
 
http://www.tvguide.com/News/FlashForward-Changes-Showrunners-1011084.aspx

Executive producer Marc Guggenheim is leaving ABC's FlashForward, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

Check out photos from FlashForward

Guggenheim, who created Eli Stone for the network, was brought in as showrunner/co-executive producer after the pilot, according to the Reporter. With a full-season pickup for the show secured, Guggenheim will depart FlashForward to develop other projects.

Co-creator and executive producer David S. Goyer (who wrote Batman Begins and the Blade series) will replace him for the show's back-nine episode order.

The switch mirrors The Good Wife's showrunner swap last week, in which TV vet Dee Johnson handed over the reins to co-executive producers Michelle and Robert King. Like Guggenheim, Johnson was recruited for The Good Wife's initial 13-episode order while the Kings found their footing.

FlashForward opened strong with 12 million viewers tuning into the pilot; the series has since settled into the 9 million-viewers range.
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Pretty dull episode this week. Next weeks looks more promising from the previews. My interest is waning with each episode though....
 
I just caught up with last weeks episode, and I'm kinda confused. Did they change the future for that one kid who was on the bus, or is his skin pigment still going to change?
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Pretty dull episode this week. Next weeks looks more promising from the previews. My interest is waning with each episode though....[/QUOTE]

But you're still on board with Heroes? :whistle2:s The ep started with
an attempted hit, cuts to show the buildup to it throughout the ep (not to mention some essential character development) and ends with a major gunfight
yet you found it dull? To each his own, I guess.
 
The beginning and end were exciting--other than the fucking awful music for
shootout
. Most everything in between was dull with all the political bullshit etc.

This show can't develop the main plot as slowly as Lost if I'm going to keep watching. The characters aren't as interesting, the acting isn't nearly as good and the writing/dialogue are pretty crappy at times.

I'm not big on Heroes either, but I've always kind of viewed it as the TV equivalent of a B movie--kind of intentionally cheesy and doesn't take itself too seriously. That doesn't apply to this show. It's a good premise, but it's got to pick it up in an episode or two or I'm ditching it.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']The beginning and end were exciting--other than the fucking awful music for
shootout
. Most everything in between was dull with all the political bullshit etc.

This show can't develop the main plot as slowly as Lost if I'm going to keep watching. The characters aren't as interesting, the acting isn't nearly as good and the writing/dialogue are pretty crappy at times.

I'm not big on Heroes either, but I've always kind of viewed it as the TV equivalent of a B movie--kind of intentionally cheesy and doesn't take itself too seriously. That doesn't apply to this show. It's a good premise, but it's got to pick it up in an episode or two or I'm ditching it.[/QUOTE]


I think you've been trying to ditch this show the past three times... JUST DO IT ALREADY.

I'm kinda hoping that I come back to this thread and people are actually talking about the show, and not talking about what they want to do, but aren't.

I think the show is fine, it's not Lost, but what can be now... the people are fine and they have a good story if they can run with it. They certainly not out of material, or going to rehash what someone else already did.... It may not be the best but it's certainly more unique than say 10 billion other cop shows that have been playing.
 
Like I said before, it's doing just barely enough to keep me watching. I'll at least wait and see what's up with Dominic Monaghan's character and the other guy.

As I said earlier, I hope it will end up like Invasion a few years ago where it was pretty boring for the first 1/3 of the season and then really took off.

That's what it has to do for anyone to have anything to talk about the show on here. The episodes are so straight forward there's not much to talk about after watching them other than giving a quick opinion on the episode/show.

Sorry if I've been sounding like a broken record, as I get annoyed with the Heroes thread with people posting how the show has been awful since season 2 yet still watch and post. That won't be me though, this has to pick up in another episode or two at the most as my free time is too short to keep watching if it doesn't hook me by then.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']I just caught up with last weeks episode, and I'm kinda confused. Did they change the future for that one kid who was on the bus, or is his skin pigment still going to change?[/QUOTE]

I believe he still has the condition but, he is going to live as shown in his Flashforward. If he would have died then his Flashforward would have been incorrect.

This weeks episode was pretty good and looks like it will only get better. :)
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']The beginning and end were exciting--other than the fucking awful music for
shootout
. Most everything in between was dull with all the political bullshit etc.
[/QUOTE]

Personally I love the Stones version of Dylan's tune, but I did think it was an odd choice artistically for the segment. And I didn't find the rest of the show dull at all. It had plot and good character development, and how can we forget
lesbians kissing
?? That alone elevates the episode!!

One minor point- the bitchy woman senator who's about to become the Vice President actually becomes the President in 6 months according to her flash forward, which means the President dies, yet he had a vision himself where he's woken up by Secret Service who tells him "we've got an incident" or something to that effect---WTF? How can she be President if he's still alive and President? That was my only quibble with the writing this week.
 
[quote name='keithp']Personally I love the Stones version of Dylan's tune, but I did think it was an odd choice artistically for the segment. And I didn't find the rest of the show dull at all. It had plot and good character development, and how can we forget
lesbians kissing
?? That alone elevates the episode!!

One minor point- the bitchy woman senator who's about to become the Vice President actually becomes the President in 6 months according to her flash forward, which means the President dies, yet he had a vision himself where he's woken up by Secret Service who tells him "we've got an incident" or something to that effect---WTF? How can she be President if he's still alive and President? That was my only quibble with the writing this week.[/QUOTE]

See, either it's a plot hole, or she's just a bitch, and lied to him. Seems like there are alot of people that would lie about their flash forward.

I like Invasion, and it was great at the end when ABC killed it off.... fuckers... so yeah this show has potential, it's just not going to be Lost epic.

I think there are tidbits to discuss, just that the show is pretty straight foward in the story telling....


Just from the last show, the "chinese killers" isn't there another like guy and girl that didn't get targeted that is on the FBI team?
 
FF is trying to learn from the lessons of Lost. They're trying to have suspenseful moments (and succeeding) without making it too convoluted (again, success, at least in comparison to Lost). They're trying to give out payoffs without making people wait a very long time. This show has definitely been entertaining and hopefully will continue to be.

BTW, has anyone else noticed that ABC has been a pretty decent suspense/sci-fi (so to speak) network for a while now? Lost, now FF, V coming very soon (even Alias back in the day). Suck it, Fox, for your treatment of genre shows.
 
[quote name='xycury']See, either it's a plot hole, or she's just a bitch, and lied to him. Seems like there are alot of people that would lie about their flash forward.

I like Invasion, and it was great at the end when ABC killed it off.... fuckers... so yeah this show has potential, it's just not going to be Lost epic.

I think there are tidbits to discuss, just that the show is pretty straight foward in the story telling....


Just from the last show, the "chinese killers" isn't there another like guy and girl that didn't get targeted that is on the FBI team?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but doesn't the fact that she got picked for Vice President kind of validate her story in a way? As far as the FBI team, are you thinking of the guy and girl that were helping the lesbian about-to-be-pregnant-in-6-months lady with the satellite surveillance? We don't know what happened to them.
 
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[quote name='keithp']Yeah, but doesn't the fact that she got picked for Vice President kind of validate her story in a way? As far as the FBI team, are you thinking of the guy and girl that were helping the lesbian about-to-be-pregnant-in-6-months lady with the satellite surveillance? We don't know what happened to them.[/QUOTE]

Well it could be that the VP had planned an assassination attempt and verified it... if she thought she was going to be president and had a plan to do it, you could say you were confident that you were going to be....

Yep that guy and girl.... they were part of it, yet didn't show anything... so either just a drop of the plot or something will happen later?
 
Agreed that the shoot out music was out of nowhere!~ ...I agree with zycury, I think its more plausible that she knows something that will eventually make her president.
 
:lol: I told Linkin I was giving up on the show and then the lesbian kissing scene happened and I said hold up .. I'm in for some more.

[quote name='xycury']See, either it's a plot hole, or she's just a bitch, and lied to him. Seems like there are alot of people that would lie about their flash forward.
[/QUOTE]


Yeah like Harold's wife who said she saw him in her vision and they were getting married. He seems pretty confident he'll be dead by then so how could he be there?

And about the ending of this week's episode --->
I guess I wasn't paying attention but I thought all 4 FBI guys were in the car when it got hit with a rocket launcher .. so how did they survive that and how did they seem to come running from the back of the garage?
 
[quote name='Maklershed']:lol: I told Linkin I was giving up on the show and then the lesbian kissing scene happened and I said hold up .. I'm in for some more. [/quote]

Welcome back! :)
Yeah like Harold's wife who said she saw him in her vision and they were getting married. He seems pretty confident he'll be dead by then so how could he be there?

And about the ending of this week's episode --->
I guess I wasn't paying attention but I thought all 4 FBI guys were in the car when it got hit with a rocket launcher .. so how did they survive that and how did they seem to come running from the back of the garage?
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The head guy told everyone to jump out of the car. It sure seemed like there wasn't enough time for everyone to get out, but I guess they did. And we never saw Harold's face at the beach, so I'm thinking his fiance was there with someone else.
 
Yeah, I have to say, for anybody crying "plot hole", isn't it a little ridiculous for a show to have contradicting elements in the SAME episode if it wasn't on purpose? We actually saw the President's vision, so that has to be true. The soon-to-be VP is either lying or making assumptions based on vague information. LOST does this kind of shit all the time and people view it as a "suspenseful plot twist". But when another show does it, it's a plot hole? Come on. It's like you're wanting the show to fail.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Yeah, I have to say, for anybody crying "plot hole", isn't it a little ridiculous for a show to have contradicting elements in the SAME episode if it wasn't on purpose? We actually saw the President's vision, so that has to be true. The soon-to-be VP is either lying or making assumptions based on vague information. LOST does this kind of shit all the time and people view it as a "suspenseful plot twist". But when another show does it, it's a plot hole? Come on. It's like you're wanting the show to fail.[/QUOTE]

Right now, the show should be doing everything to make us keep viewing, not playing games.

I consider the rocket launcher to be cheating. The beginning of the show, and even the repeat right before the end, showed there was not near enough time for them to all exit the car and find strategic positions in the garage. One of them is shown seconds later to be walking towards the bad guys from the side. This is FlashForward, not The Flash.

The senator/VP/wanna-be-president is unclear. Since we don't see her flash forward, she's most likely lying. If we see it later and she really is president, that's something to be explained later. There are multiple ways for it to be true and for both visions to be true. This one is not a contradiction or cheating. Yet.

But coming in the same episode as the rocket launcher, it's a little worrisome. If they're willing to fudge little details for the sake of making it look more exciting, they'll certainly be willing to fudge details to make the whole thing hold together.

Me, I'm on the fence about this show. The premise is great and some of the ideas and visuals are impressive. The pacing and acting are all over the place, though.
 
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