Gears of War 3 - Release Date Sept. 20

[quote name='Ryuukishi']So apparently they're now saying that the new maps will be added to public versus at some unspecified future date. Seriously, how hard is this? You have two choices: 1. Lock the maps out of public matches unless everyone in the lobby has them. BioShock 2 showed that this is bullshit. 2. Create a DLC playlist with the maps in rotation, that you can't access unless you own the DLC. Yeah, splitting the community kind of sucks, but that's the only way for it to work. What is Epic still trying to figure out?[/QUOTE]

How to get away with forcing us to pay for it or do without.

The only good news here is a heads up on their general opinion of a Classic Playlist or anything else with potent "community splitting" potential. It won't happen. Not if they can't even handle adding paid maps to Versus rotation so I won't sweat it.
 
I can now see how you guys are frustrated with the Sawed Off. You can no longer rush someone without fear on being one shotted. I also found myself on alot of double kills where my two gnasher shots from midrange took down the guy as he blasted me on a rush with it. I will say it seems limited to Team Deathmatch and Warzone from the modes I have tried.

Lastly, it seems like the Ink Grenades don't have the range or the damage of GoW2's version.
 
Whenever i can grab an ink, i always grab it. Its not going to kill anyone by itself, unless they are downed already. But it inks them enough, and stuns them so you can lancer them down pretty easy.
 
I think I've maybe killed two people with Ink gernades from level 0-52. They are weak and kinda useless, just good for tossing out and scattering people.

I'm going back to my Snub Pistol fetish from Gears 1. Easy way to get a lot of downs and assists anyways, though obviously the Hammerburst is a better option, and pretty much any other long range weapon.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']I think I've maybe killed two people with Ink gernades from level 0-52. They are weak and kinda useless, just good for tossing out and scattering people.

I'm going back to my Snub Pistol fetish from Gears 1. Easy way to get a lot of downs and assists anyways, though obviously the Hammerburst is a better option, and pretty much any other long range weapon.[/QUOTE]


They're useless when you don't know how to play. Every Ink I pick up is a guaranteed kill and in 1 spawn gametypes that can make or break your win or turn the tide of a losing game for your team.

After the game's been out for a bit I don't see the hate for the sawed off anymore, either you're over it and you quit Gears already because of it or you know how to combat it.

I've been rocking the gnasher since going Sawed off expert and and I still go positive, if I even die at all in some games. I still see the bullshit with both weapons like having to shoot people 8 times with the gnasher and no kill while an enemy shoots you once and downs you from range or the SO not gibbing at point blank, but they're just different play styles and when you go into a fight KNOWING/ASSUMING there's gonna be some bad kid running in a straight line to you with a sawed off you won't run into any problems.

It's the bad kids that hide the whole game and let their team die, wait for you to go searching for him, kill you, then die and still lose, that you have to worry about.

If you put enough heat on those bad kids with the sawed off they will try and run at you, freak out, fire way early or way too far away and they are easy pickings with a gnasher or rifle.
 
[quote name='hustletron']They're useless when you don't know how to play. .[/QUOTE]

No need to be a raging dick about it. I feel they are useless and I've put in quite some time in all Gears games. Probably put in more time into Gears 1 MP then I did in Black Ops or MW2. So I think I know how to play thank you very much.
 
I don't see how I was a dick about it, if you find them useless then you indeed probably don't know how to play because every gun in the game is useful if you know how to use it properly; read: knowing how to play. I just quoted you because you were the last person to respond about the Inks, don't take it so personal big guy. If we were talking about Gears 1 your reference of experience may have been valid.

Seeing as how the inks stun as long as the enemy is within range of the explosion radius and NOT the damage radius, the ink is infinitely useful in almost any application as it's basically an upgraded smoke grenade that, for the most part and in your case, everyone else avoids because they don't know how to use it. Get multiple enemies in close proximity and throw it at them and make sure your rifle/pistol/gnasher/sawed off(if youre close enough and didn't get stunned yourself) comes out after you toss it and you are nearly handed the same amount of downs as there are enemies, I would say you'd get the kills but I know people like to steal those too. Regardless it's all points to your name. This strategy applies in a 1 v 1 scenario and makes your adversary look like a complete clown.

I apologize if I came across as attacking you, I wasn't.
 
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From my personal experience I've yet to see anyone dominate with the ink gernade, and same for snub pistol so I'll take back what I said as 'useless' and label it D tier if you wanna go that route. Every weapon in every game has It's uses, even with what you said I don't see the ink gernade dominating. Again, I only play Team Death Match so maybe that's why I see it more useless since It ends up being a shotgun/lancer fest most of the time.

I'm more upset with the priority of shot guns then anything else. Half the time I click my right trigger and get blown away by a sawed off/gnasher and nothing shows on my screen. It's like this game is having Black Ops syndrome.

Either way I'm still playing this game a lot, just wish my friends were online more off so I didn't have to play with randoms.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']From my personal experience I've yet to see anyone dominate with the ink gernade, and same for snub pistol so I'll take back what I said as 'useless' and label it D tier if you wanna go that route. Every weapon in every game has It's uses, even with what you said I don't see the ink gernade dominating. Again, I only play Team Death Match so maybe that's why I see it more useless since It ends up being a shotgun/lancer fest most of the time.

I'm more upset with the priority of shot guns then anything else. Half the time I click my right trigger and get blown away by a sawed off/gnasher and nothing shows on my screen. It's like this game is having Black Ops syndrome.

Either way I'm still playing this game a lot, just wish my friends were online more off so I didn't have to play with randoms.[/QUOTE]


I agree it's not a sort of domination weapon, especially since you only have one shot, unless you pick up the second one on the map. But it really does turn the tide of games, not so much TDM for obvious reasons but it's very versatile in single spawn gametypes. Even in TDM though, if it's up I'd suggest picking it up.

I agree on the shotguns too regardless of which one is being used, I still run into the same bullshit, lately though it's been 1 enemy that has the most awesome gnasher ever. They down me and my team mates in 1 shot from ridiculous ranges while I end up having to empty my gnasher and blood sprays from their body after every shot.

I haven't figured out why this keeps happening but it happens maybe every other game and it's only 1 player on the enemy team that exhibits this.

If you haven't really tried the ink out that much I'd suggest giving it another shot and working it into your strategy, it's amazing how well it works on mercy when it spawns every round and against sawed off bad kids.

If you're interested in playing I usually only play with like 2 other friends of mine, 3 at the most, we try and win but we pretty much play to have fun, but we win a lot too when we try so it works out. I try and play a little every night but working on a BAS is really cutting into my Gears time.
 
[quote name='The Ebbtide']Rod's supposed to be doing another of his Q&A with online posters (5:30 EST). Wonder what he'll address.

Link.[/QUOTE]


Just checked it out for 2 minutes then left because of the endless flood of chat: "Wahhh nerf the SOS" "The sawed off is bad for us new players" "No sawed off weekend would be best event evarr11!!!".
 
So my gears controller i got with my system is messed up. It always flashes to recharge the battery quickly. Today i was playing and its flashing that i need to recharge, has 2 bars. I take the battery out and put it in my reach controller and it shows 3 bars and no flashing. I dont know whats wrong with it, i should test out my other controller. But its really annoying i pay 400 bucks and get a defective controller.

hmmm after about 10 minutes using my reach controller it did the "needs recharging" flash. But the thing is when i plug it in to recharge with my gears controller it always shows 2 bars and doesnt seem like its charging. When i use my reach controller it fills up to 4 bars after time and even gets a little warm. So i dunno if its the controller or the battery.
 
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[quote name='The 7th Number']So my gears controller i got with my system is messed up. It always flashes to recharge the battery quickly. Today i was playing and its flashing that i need to recharge, has 2 bars. I take the battery out and put it in my reach controller and it shows 3 bars and no flashing. I dont know whats wrong with it, i should test out my other controller. But its really annoying i pay 400 bucks and get a defective controller.[/QUOTE]
If it persists I'd definitely contact the store you bought it from, or Microsoft directly. I swear I read that they were running out of controllers (Amazon doesn't even sell them directly anymore), so it's best to try and get it exchanged now while there may be a supply.

But I think you have 3 months of warranty on controllers, and since these just came out you should still be covered. And since it sounds like you bought the console, you might want to check the other controller, too.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']So my gears controller i got with my system is messed up. It always flashes to recharge the battery quickly. Today i was playing and its flashing that i need to recharge, has 2 bars. I take the battery out and put it in my reach controller and it shows 3 bars and no flashing. I dont know whats wrong with it, i should test out my other controller. But its really annoying i pay 400 bucks and get a defective controller.

hmmm after about 10 minutes using my reach controller it did the "needs recharging" flash. But the thing is when i plug it in to recharge with my gears controller it always shows 2 bars and doesnt seem like its charging. When i use my reach controller it fills up to 4 bars after time and even gets a little warm. So i dunno if its the controller or the battery.[/QUOTE]
Man the dpad on the GOW contollers are ass. They're so unresponsive compared to my silver one I just keep both in the box
 
[quote name='GUNNM']Man the dpad on the GOW contollers are ass. They're so unresponsive compared to my silver one I just keep both in the box[/QUOTE]

Just wait till' that new dpad cracks in the middle and falls off of the controller. :roll:
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']As much as i hate the SOS, i use it in one match, go 18-10 and get called a bitch. Sawed off experts they say... LMAO[/QUOTE]

I'll finally be able to play tonight around midnight since my internet caps clear then. Woo!
 
[quote name='GUNNM']sawn off under investigation according to Rob. cool.[/QUOTE]

People complain about something enough and it will get tweaked. The GoW community needs to be careful that they don't turn this game into Medal of Honor though, so heavily patched and changed that nothing does any damage anymore.
 
[quote name='GUNNM']sawn off under investigation according to Rob. cool.[/QUOTE]

I hope the sawed-off gets patched so it only kills at melee distance, not 6 feet away.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']People complain about something enough and it will get tweaked. The GoW community needs to be careful that they don't turn this game into Medal of Honor though, so heavily patched and changed that nothing does any damage anymore.[/QUOTE]
oh you mean like GOW 2
 
[quote name='GUNNM']sawn off under investigation according to Rob. cool.[/QUOTE]

Good. If they aren't going to properly maintenance the servers in my region then tweaking this gun so super powers aren't bestowed upon it on player connections is a decent compromise.
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']Good. If they aren't going to properly maintenance the servers in my region then tweaking this gun so super powers aren't bestowed upon it on player connections is a decent compromise.[/QUOTE]


Well I mean the same goes for the gnasher dude.
 
[quote name='GUNNM']sawn off under investigation according to Rob. cool.[/QUOTE]

I think the game is fine as is right now. I always fear the first few updates as it always changes the game and not always for the better.

The first couple updates of Gears 2 is what made me stop playing MP.

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I really dont get the SOS, it seems so powerful..... IF IT WORKS. I was just playing a match on mercy and someone went to pick up the boom i blasted them point blank middle of my gun, 0 ft away and they just take it like a champ, i even meleed them after and still nothing. This isnt the first time today either, i just started using this weapon today and it seems so hit and miss for me, when its supposed to be instant death. For some reason half my shots dont even register. Its really annoying.
 
If any rifle should be nerfed its hammerburst. I get downed by those instantly. Its insane how fast those guns can put you down. Lancer is fine, Retro is insta downed too buy only in close range so i think thats fine.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']I really dont get the SOS, it seems so powerful..... IF IT WORKS. I was just playing a match on mercy and someone went to pick up the boom i blasted them point blank middle of my gun, 0 ft away and they just take it like a champ, i even meleed them after and still nothing. This isnt the first time today either, i just started using this weapon today and it seems so hit and miss for me, when its supposed to be instant death. For some reason half my shots dont even register. Its really annoying.[/QUOTE]

This.

I've used it since the beta, and love it. But recently like the past 3 days It's been hit or miss, my KD dropped a lot these past couple days, not sure if it's been tweaked or if I've been playing a lot of P2P matches.
 
LP: Definitely not tonight, but this will save me the trouble of bothering to play tomorrow either. The last job I had royally f*cked up my sleep schedule to the point where I wake up much earlier than expected now. All the time. When that happens I game until I fall back to sleep or stay up until I have to go to work.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']If any rifle should be nerfed its hammerburst. I get downed by those instantly. Its insane how fast those guns can put you down. Lancer is fine, Retro is insta downed too buy only in close range so i think thats fine.[/QUOTE]

everything needs a little tweaking IMHO. gnasher needs stopping power, and to be more consistent, hammerburst should be slightly reduced damage, retro needs to be even less accurate I think, because the damage is ridiculous. sawed off needs to ONLY one hit kill from melee range + a foot or so, it shouldn't insta-kill if i roll away from it and run a bit and then i just explode. i hope they leave smokes as is, they have usefulness to them right now, so they should leave them alone.

that being said, i hope they dont over tweak stuff, and keep tweaking, until it winds up broken like i feel gears of war 2 is right now.
 
is anyone else experiencing this= you execute someone and die within 1 second. THEN you see your firend getting executed shoto the guy with everything you have and they roll away after assasinating your friend.

sometimes it feels like players have super assault rifles and have health thats invincible in certain animations

[quote name='iNFiNiTE HORiZON']everything needs a little tweaking IMHO. gnasher needs stopping power, [/QUOTE]
the gnasher needs to DO NO damage at all from a certain distance. i actually have found myself running away getting gnashered and getting downed. im like a block away and they fire it like its a sniper
 
Dude i shot someone point blank with a SOS and then double meleed them to death since i figured my gun was reloading after the shot, turns out i still had 4 bullets left. So it shot a blank? Its like if you get too close to the point where you are touching it shoots through them, or doesnt shoot a bullet. IDK. its weird.
 
Just my various trophy hate mails, obviously this doesn't even count the voice messages I get.

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[quote name='hustletron']Just my various trophy hate mails, obviously this doesn't even count the voice messages I get.

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These are some of the pre-teen brats that constantly bitch about the Sawed-Off.
 
All of them were unprovoked, I was just using the sawed off and crushing them and they send messages raging. I have a bunch of voicemails too of grown ass men talking shit. I love it.
 
Here is what I don't understand about the gun complaints, and this is a genuine question: If a gun is overpowered and noobs with no skills can use it effectively against experienced players, then wouldn't the problem be solved by the good players just using that same gun also? OP gun + skills > OP gun + no skills, right?
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Here is what I don't understand about the gun complaints, and this is a genuine question: If a gun is overpowered and noobs with no skills can use it effectively against experienced players, then wouldn't the problem be solved by the good players just using that same gun also? OP gun + skills > OP gun + no skills, right?[/QUOTE]


The "experienced/good/non noob players" don't want to "stoop" to that level.......

I use both.

I also got called a "spray noob" for I'm assuming killing some kids with the lancer. There's nothing you can do to some people that isn't considered "noob".
 
My biggest problem with the SOS is the inconsistency. I can be blow away from 5-8 feet away, yet i blast someone down their throat and they walk away fine. I did have a game where i got 2 doubles with it, since they all liked to hang around each other. Sometimes it works, sometimes i magically goes through people. IMO they need to make the blast area 1-3 feet and thats it. As wide as it is, it takes no skill to aim. So the biggest issue is how far it reaches. It reaches so far that even when you are shooting someone they can run up to you, roll, then blast you away.
 
i feel like i have to send rantmail. just so the person knows i tried (not hatemail)

i messaged a guy saying i shot him 1 second early and that he should have been downed not him killing me from the same distance but my shot just wounded him while his made me BLOWUP.

his message back was "OK"

[quote name='The 7th Number']they can run up to you, roll, then blast you away.[/QUOTE]
this urcs me so much, guy rolls behind me and before i can turn 45 degrees, HE CAN finish his roll(stand up), turn 45 degrees and shoot
 
:rofl: at the messages. Like another poster said, wouldn't using the same gun be the end of the issue if the gun was so easy to use and "OP"? But nooo, they probably used it once or twice, got a new hole ripped into them, raged then decided that the gun they couldn't use was "OP".

The Call of Duty effect really. If you can't use that "overpowered UMP" but I can easily, then don't you just suck?
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']My biggest problem with the SOS is the inconsistency. I can be blow away from 5-8 feet away, yet i blast someone down their throat and they walk away fine. I did have a game where i got 2 doubles with it, since they all liked to hang around each other. Sometimes it works, sometimes i magically goes through people. IMO they need to make the blast area 1-3 feet and thats it. As wide as it is, it takes no skill to aim. So the biggest issue is how far it reaches. It reaches so far that even when you are shooting someone they can run up to you, roll, then blast you away.[/QUOTE]

It needs a more narrow scope. The biggest SOS is the width in which it shoots.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit'] then don't you just suck?[/QUOTE]
can you explain this

a guy was downed DOWNED, i pointed my gnasher at his chest and fired nothing

in another match i watched as a guy gnashered a downed player from twice the distance (and it was a regular kill)
 
I wasn't directing my post to you timesplitt, don't get me wrong. As for your questions, I think most of that has to do with lag. In a perfect world all the weapons would work in predictable and consistant manners, but obviously they do not in any online multiplayer game.

Why do you think being "host" and having a "good connection" or "x amount of bars" makes such a big difference and is talked about so much? You made a lot of the same complaints on Black Ops and the answer was typically the same, you weren't host or you had a poor connection or the host was on the other team. Same applies here I believe.
 
Also the biggest prob with SOS is it changes the game into a noobrush/campfest. People know they can rush, blast, win with that gun. So they are more likely to just grab that gun from the moment they spawn and hide around a corner, or rush someone from the side/behind. I think it changes the game for the worse. If they made it so the risk was bigger than less people would use it.

I believe this gun is the reason why we dont have Guardian, because rounds would last 1 minute or less when whole teams can rush with SOS and blast their leader. I wish they could fix it, where even the SOS would only down the leader, and you had to execute the leader to finish him off. But i really dont think they will even bring back guardian which is sad.
 
Maybe I need to get into the Gears 3 MP more, but am I wrong in thinking the SOS, with its range smaller then the Gnasher, is soooo overpowered? Its supposed to be deadly strong if you can get it to land on somebody, but it only has one round in it before a reload and has quite small ammo capacity as well......?
 
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