Gears of War 3 - Release Date Sept. 20

[quote name='GUNNM']I hated ruins. Especially if you had dumb teams mates rush middle and get downed or killed by torque as soon as the game started.

What was that map with the mortar all the way on the right/left it was a snow map pack that was a good map too.[/QUOTE]


I think you mean grind yard. That was a good map. In fact a lot of Gears 2 maps were really good. Only ones i really hated were Day one and maybe stasis. The maps in all fathers pack were really nice too. I wouldnt mind seeing a lot of gears 2 maps brought back. Then again gears 3 is a different game than gears 2, so some of the more open maps might be annoying.
 
I don't think I hate any map in any GOW game. D=

I've also come to terms I will never get seriously 3.0. I will just be happy with 1900/2000
 
bring back Courtyard, Underhill, and another vote for Canals!

oh, just bring them all back.
increase achievement limit to 2,250 - 2,500 and be done with it.
 
[quote name='Mospeada_21']bring back Courtyard, Underhill, and another vote for Canals!

oh, just bring them all back.
increase achievement limit to 2,250 - 2,500 and be done with it.[/QUOTE]

Bring back more gears 2 maps and take out all the launch maps from gears 3 from rotation on dedicated servers. well except for gridlock. The only other map i like is hotel, and mercy is somewhat okay. But honestly i dont like many of the launch maps. Most of them are too open, cover that only goes up to your hip, hardly no CQC areas, and rifle friendly.

Then again some maps might not work well in gears 3. Take underhill for example, whoever got up to the mortar in the street would win because rifles would take out anyone who tried to rush up there easy as hell. Unless they put the mortar or maybe digger where sniper/torque was. There are probably a lot of maps that could be spawn trapped just because gears 3 rifles have stopping power and can down you very quick. Nowhere would probably be easy to spawn trap, even from atop the buildings roof. Courtyard, and maybe memorial. All good maps, but gears 3 would probably be bad.

I made it to 1,324 wingman matches, almost halfway there. once i onyx that ill only have heavy weapons, skunker, and last man out. :bouncy:
 
I'll take River, personally. My favorite map in Gears 2.

I'd also take a complete overhaul of the Medals system and the requirements to get them. It's seriously not fun. And the reason I stopped playing beyond trying to get Socialite, which I now have.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']Nowhere would probably be easy to spawn trap, even from atop the buildings roof. Courtyard, and maybe [M]emorial.[/QUOTE]

Good memory, those were also the maps I was thinking of; plus Fuel Station.

I think it also depends on the Game Type/Mode we're playing though.

I hope Epic works on Pendulum Wars soon. I promise to buy the next 3 installments!
 
I think if they go back into the past, they should still keep the retro lancer but they need to change it up. It should be like a bolt action rifle that has single shots like a boltock with active maybe. Something that takes a bit of skill, instead of spray and pray that you can do with the current version. Maybe even have it able to pop heads if the player is damaged enough. Like boltock but more than 2 shots, maybe 3 shots. But still have regular lancer as the new and improved gun in that time line. Also bring back gears of war 1 hammerburst that wasnt a constant spread. Now that i think of that, i really miss gears of war 2 gorgon pistol. That thing was a beast in gears 2, now its garbage.
 
So much hate for the retro. It does take skill, and no one is immune to it if they know what to do. Every time I play a ranked match and our team beats the opposite team they always blame the fact that we all use retros. But when we lose, no one says anything but the typical "your garbage".
 
keep in mind, anything pre E-day [Locust] automatically translates into no Locust weapons; i.e. no hammerburst, gorgon pistol; or my favorite heavy weapon, Boomshot!

it gets weird when game sequels cover earlier time periods, weapons need to continue to evolve to satify buying customers, but canon says otherwise.
 
[quote name='Mospeada_21']but canon says otherwise.[/QUOTE]
"Hey Marcus, ever think it's kinda weird that there was like a three year period where we never saw any retro lancers lying around, no one ever used one, and they were never mentioned? But now they're everywhere again?"

"Yeah Dom, it is weird. Almost like someone retconned our lives. ... Now come back to bed."
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']"Hey Marcus, ever think it's kinda weird that there was like a three year period where we never saw any retro lancers lying around, no one ever used one, and they were never mentioned? But now they're everywhere again?"

"Yeah Dom, it is weird. Almost like someone retconned our lives. ... Now come back to bed."[/QUOTE]
Retros are the M-16's of our world?
 
weapon devo could be interesting though. I suppose it depends on which era of the Pendulum Wars would be used as the game. 26 RTI with Adam Fenix and Helena Stroud? That's not too far before E-Day so it'd be mostly the same weapons. Go back to the beginning roughly 100 years before E-Day and you'd have pre-retro retro lancers, no mention of the Hammer of Dawn, Gnashers would be pre-modified, weaker longshots, etc...

It'd be a completely different game too and would almost make more sense as a hybrid RTS where you control large sections of combat and can zoom in to one squad to battle in the 3rd person action game.
 
First of all WOW, didnt expect a new gears of war game on the xbox 360 at all. Wonder how far the game is off from being released, probably wont come out until Q4 of 2013?

Anyway the biggest thing on my mind is, if this game does have MP, i hope to God that its like Gears 1 or 2. No retro, mantle kick, ink stun, sawed off, power rifles, and hell no to wide open maps. This is a good opportunity to bring back true gears of war mp, and no this COD/Gears MP we know as gears 3.

Either way though, i love gears, so even if its just a single player campaign i would buy it. My guess is its a campaign with adam fenix and queen myrrah before the events of gears 1.
 
Hrm who the fuck is that? He's arrested by the onyx guard it looks like prescott but hes dead. Another book character?

Reading the comments they say its probably marcus arrested so therefore a prequel
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']First of all WOW, didnt expect a new gears of war game on the xbox 360 at all. Wonder how far the game is off from being released, probably wont come out until Q4 of 2013?

Anyway the biggest thing on my mind is, if this game does have MP, i hope to God that its like Gears 1 or 2. No retro, mantle kick, ink stun, sawed off, power rifles, and hell no to wide open maps. This is a good opportunity to bring back true gears of war mp, and no this COD/Gears MP we know as gears 3.

Either way though, i love gears, so even if its just a single player campaign i would buy it. My guess is its a campaign with adam fenix and queen myrrah before the events of gears 1.[/QUOTE]
I think this is the Halo 3: ODST of the Gears universe, with a campaign built quickly on the existing Gears 3 engine, and the multiplayer will probably just be the same as the Gears 3 multi with some new maps based on the new campaign. That is my guess!


[quote name='GUNNM']Hrm who the fuck is that? He's arrested by the onyx guard it looks like prescott but hes dead. Another book character?[/QUOTE]
Could be Marcus, and this is a prequel. "Gears of War: Emergence." Can't take place after Gears 3 since you can see Reavers flying around in the background.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']I think this is the Halo 3: ODST of the Gears universe, with a campaign built quickly on the existing Gears 3 engine, and the multiplayer will probably just be the same as the Gears 3 multi with some new maps based on the new campaign. That is my guess!


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That would make a lot of sense. You play as a random character as you watch marcus get arrested and in the end you probably get the death penalty for helping marcus and marcus goes to jail :bouncy:
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Please don't be a Kinect spin-off!
Please keep the Retro Lancer!

:pray:[/QUOTE]
Gears of War: Exile was the Kinect spinoff and that got cancelled stone dead. Not to say that this won't have any Kinect functionality, but it won't be Gears: The Journey.
 
Hope you're right! At least the image has the same at style as the Gears we all know and love. Guess I was right when I assumed they were done supporting 3 :/
 
Well i will at least say this. If they attempt to make seriously 4.0 any harder than 3.0 they can suck a bag of dicks. Also, the season pass was a bs proposition.
 
The Halo ODST idea sounds reasonable. It will probably be that, new campaign that happened before gears 1 with same MP but with a few new maps, characters to use.

Id really love to see this new game have a theater mode to upload videos to youtube. That would be a wonderful addition if this game is an ODST type game.

Making a new game, instead of it being DLC = more achievements. Since i dont think they can do more than 2000 GS which gears 3 has reached.
 
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[quote name='The 7th Number']The Halo ODST idea sounds reasonable. It will probably be that, new campaign that happened before gears 1 with same MP but with a few new maps, characters to use.

Id really love to see this new game have a theater mode to upload videos to youtube. That would be a wonderful addition if this game is an ODST type game.

Making a new game, instead of it being DLC = more achievements. Since i dont think they can do more than 2000 GS which gears 3 has reached.[/QUOTE]

I don't know...Rod Furgusson tweeted this earlier:

"BTW with the announce of the new Gears game, I can confirm that there's no more DLC for Gears 3."

Wouldn't new maps/characters still be considered DLC? Sounds to me like they're developing a new multiplayer component as well.
 
[quote name='I OU a Beatn']I don't know...Rod Furgusson tweeted this earlier:

"BTW with the announce of the new Gears game, I can confirm that there's no more DLC for Gears 3."

Wouldn't new maps/characters still be considered DLC? Sounds to me like they're developing a new multiplayer component as well.[/QUOTE]
damn that sucks
 
Nah, i think this game is just a way to get around a few things.

If they make this game like ODST they essentially turn DLC into a new game. Which would allow them to give us a new 1,000 achievement score. If they made more DLC they cant add anymore achievements because they hit the limit.

Another thing is they pack in all the DLC MP maps from Gears 3 on the new disc and bam, everyone who buys this game can play on dedicated servers. That would help them sort out their playlists hopefully.

Add new medals, mutators, ribbons.

Also if they made gears 3.5 MP on a new disc, maybe they could fix a few things in the game that they couldnt fix in gears 3. Like fixing guardian, maybe bringing submission back, or other small gameplay adjustments.
 
[quote name='GUNNM']What's wrong with guardian?[/QUOTE]

They had to make it based off CTL. For one you cant move at the start. It would be nice to be able to move from the beginning, even if the warning message still pops up saying you are leader. The inability to move for 5+ seconds is a disadvantage.

Also if you die before your leader dies, and your timer to respawn doesnt show up before your leader dies, you dont get a respawn. In Gears 2 if you died before the leader you would get a respawn even if your timer didnt show up.

Another thing is in Gears 2 guardian you couldnt see everyone with the tac com as the leader. Not sure if taking that away would be good though, since rifles are so powerful in this game, and maps werent really planned for this gametype. Id say keep it the way it is.

But those are a few things they could improve on the game. I dont believe they could fix the first two things i talked about because Gears 3 guardian is just a variant of CTL.


Also dont forget about the Beast vs Horde mode that was mentioned a while back. One team is beasts vs a team of cog. That will probably be on this new disc.
 
I don't mind the 5 second wait as leader you have the ability to see everyone on the field which is cool. I like this version of guardian more than 2. I'm surprised a lot of modes from part 2 didn't make it to 3
 
KOTH should have been Annex
Capture the Leader should have been Guaridan

Similar Modes but twisted for that Gears flavor.
 
[quote name='GUNNM']I don't mind the 5 second wait as leader you have the ability to see everyone on the field which is cool. I like this version of guardian more than 2. I'm surprised a lot of modes from part 2 didn't make it to 3[/QUOTE]

The problem with the wait is that on some maps its really terrible. If they bring back river, security, day one, those maps would be horrible for guardian because by the time you can move, and try to run to your safe area, there will be people right by you trying to kill you before you can get to that safe area.

In Jacinto, you can run through mortar and up their nade stairway and get there just as the leader is trying to plant nades. if there isnt anyone stopping you from rushing, its easy to kill the leader in less than 20 seconds. If there was no waiting time you would be able to plant those nades before anyone can get over there.

I mean the wait doesnt kill the game mode, but i think it would be better to not have to wait at the start.
 
[quote name='I OU a Beatn']"BTW with the announce of the new Gears game, I can confirm that there's no more DLC for Gears 3."

Wouldn't new maps/characters still be considered DLC? Sounds to me like they're developing a new multiplayer component as well.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, yeah. That does make it sound like it won't share MP with Gears 3. It would suck to split up the player base so fast. Unless this new game isn't coming until well into 2013 or something.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Hmm, yeah. That does make it sound like it won't share MP with Gears 3. It would suck to split up the player base so fast. Unless this new game isn't coming until well into 2013 or something.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I don't know how they would handle that, especially since many believe the next Xbox is releasing holiday 2013 and I know how excited Epic Games is to unleash it's Unreal Engine 4. You would think they would be focusing on a possible launch game for the next Xbox, but who knows. I guess we'll find out sometime between now and Monday during Microsoft's E3 conference.
 
Any ideas who the guy is in the photo? I never read any books or comics, but there are hints.

- He looks like he has short hair, with a part on the right (left side of his head)
- 2 blue straps over his shoulders
- Gloves on
- The blue glowing lights look to be coming from the handcuffs.
- a belt like strap on each leg, around thigh area, above knee pads

I kind of think it might be prescott, but it could be someone we havent seen yet in the video game world. But could be someone shown in comics?
 
ODST was a rare situation where Bungie had wanted to make a DLC side story, and Microsoft wanted more Halo games to sell to consumers. You have to remember that for a long time Halo 3 had huge hype and was a big part of Microsoft's Live sales. Microsoft forced ODST as a $60 stand alone game, instead of a $20 DLC. To compensate for what they believed to be an over-inflated price, Bungie worked out that all of the DLC would be included extra on a separate disc. Still Halo 3's multiplayer, to not divide the community, but all of the multiplayer maps as an added value to ODST's price. Gears of War isn't that series, though.

This is just a quick cash grab while the resources are available. It's smart. The next generation of consoles is impending, and with the hype building for the Wii U, it's clear both Microsoft and Sony will have to consider when to launch their next systems, especially if their current systems will be limiting development of 3rd party games, possibly costing them support from certain game studios then.

Gears of War 3 sold well, but Epic's abandoned support of the game, they've released all of its DLC, and thus have hit the peak of their money grab for that game. Releasing a new game in the series, that probably runs off of the Gears of War 3 engine, and is just slightly modified, would be a new sale for them to profit from. I would not be surprised if this was sparked by the sale of RAAM's Shadow, where a 'classic' styled campaign DLC probably sold very well, and the critical reaction of the Lambent perhaps interested Epic in attempting to appease fans of the series who want more, but also really just get more money quickly from a game engine that is already setup, even if People Can Fly are possibly handling this.

Clearly next generation will require understanding the new system(s), building resources, and testing launch titles. Throwing out a quick prequel for this current generation console that runs off of the last games engine gets them easy money, and also is easy to develop. Plus, Gears of War 3 isn't even a year old, so announcing this is keeps Gears of War relevant, though also dooms the interest in Gears of War 3 (but, as noted, the maximum profit from that game has peaked, so losing it was probably a worthy sacrifice in Epic's mind).

This isn't good news or bad news, just more proof that I was right that they've already abandoned Gears of War 3, not even a year after it's release. Epic has changed...

Also, noting this, I laughed when people mentioned the idea of dedicated servers existing in Gears of War 3 when this new title in the series releases. From all we've seen with Gears of War 3 support so far, I'd greatly expect for the dedicated servers support to diminish by the year anniversary of Gears of War 3, with Epic probably claiming that resources and spending on servers are needed elsewhere for future titles and next generation development.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']Any ideas who the guy is in the photo? I never read any books or comics, but there are hints.
[/QUOTE]
AKA pendulum wars It'll probably be a prequel to part 1 when Marcus was sent to jail -- You can see reavers in the background
 
Well THIS is interesting....

@GearsViking I hope this means the new gears is an add on to Gears 3. Id play GOW3 forever as long as there are new maps once in a while.https://twitter.com/Jtfawver/status/208298250028060672https://twitter.com/GearsViking/status/208302414267301888#



Rod Fergusson ‏@GearsViking



@Jtfawver no, whole new game.
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This is kind of confusing to me. I guess it shouldnt. COD makes a new campaign+MP every year. So if the new gears game comes out 2 years after Gears 3 that makes sense. But to me it seems more logical to build onto Gears 3 MP. Unless they are just unhappy with the direction they went with the game? If its a totally new MP i really do hope they go back to Gears 1-2 style.
 
In a way I'm glad there is no more dlc for Gears 3 since I didn't want to spend anymore money on maps but at the same time I wouldn't mind River.

I assumed there would be another Gears game eventually... I didn't expect it to be announced this soon. :applause:
 
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