Guitar Hero II - General Disscusion - Indie Pack #2 - 3 Songs Up Now

I played this for a good chunk today at CES (this and Shadowrun) and I must say that it is fucking awesome and I can't wait till it comes out. My Activision lady rep friend was there on hand as well and I spoke to her and they haven't set a price point yet for downloadable songs, but there will definitely be songs available and that fans have really been asking for GH1 songs so they are seriously contemplating making some GH1 songs apart of the first batch.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']The Trooper (Iron Maiden)

fuck yes.

Like Myke, I just want to know if we're getting Guitar Hero 1 tracks too, so I know whether to start packing my GH 1 and 2 to sell it.[/quote]

Go read my post just now:D
 
[quote name='hhhdx4']It will really get bad when they put bands like Sum 41, The Donnas, and Franz Ferdinad.

wait a minute....


edit: what it needs is Metallica and I know its impossible to get them (how long did it take for them to get on iTunes?) but If theyre going to sell the X-plorer with the game it only feels right to have SOMETHING Metallica.

heres to GH3![/quote]

Metallica sucks. period. I could care less about Metallica at this point. They're drowned out and washed up.

Anyway, I like The Donnas, Sum 41, and Franz. Hate me if you will, but I don't care
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']I played this for a good chunk today at CES (this and Shadowrun) and I must say that it is fucking awesome and I can't wait till it comes out.[/quote]I hate you. [quote name='hiccupleftovers']My Activision lady rep friend was there on hand as well and I spoke to her and they haven't set a price point yet for downloadable songs, but there will definitely be songs available and that fans have really been asking for GH1 songs so they are seriously contemplating making some GH1 songs apart of the first batch.[/quote]Awesome news.

Off topic, but something I'd like to see in GH3 is the ability to import songs off your hard drive and have the game make notes and such for it.
How cool would that be?
 
[quote name='LiquidNight']Off topic, but something I'd like to see in GH3 is the ability to import songs off your hard drive and have the game make notes and such for it.
How cool would that be?[/quote]

That'd be awesome, a note generator =D.
There was a game that was going to be released, I think for the PSP, and you basically play mini games that go along with whatever song you play on your Memory Stick.
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']It will really get bad when they put bands like Sum 41, The Donnas, and Franz Ferdinad.

For what it's worth, all three of those bands are at least twice as 'rocking' as the polarizing band revealed today. While The Donnas' lyrics are atrocious, if you strip away the vocals, you (usually) have a very compotent-sounding (and 3/4s hella-cute) AC/DC wannabe band. Sum 41 have always made their '80s-metal fixation clear to anyone listening (probably for cross-generational commercial gain as much as sincere love, but whatever). And Franz Ferdinand, well, they're sassy, but they make bookstore employees want to dance...or at least wonder if they want to...do they, do they want to?

EDIT: Concering Pearl Jam, "Go" would've made a good choice for guitar/bass interplay, although it probably would've been a bitch to 'play'. "Do the Evolution" would've been a good choice for an easier song, but that song and its video are inseparable in my head.[/quote]

After reading your post, you've pretty much hit the nail right on the head.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Metallica sucks. period. I could care less about Metallica at this point. They're drowned out and washed up.

Anyway, I like The Donnas, Sum 41, and Franz. Hate me if you will, but I don't care[/QUOTE]


I wont get into a music discussion since the last one was deleted, but wow...
 
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oh snap!

http://www.pricegrabber.com/home_cesblog.php
 
[quote name='LiquidNight']
Off topic, but something I'd like to see in GH3 is the ability to import songs off your hard drive and have the game make notes and such for it.
How cool would that be?[/quote]

There is a freeware pc game that takes mp3s and converts them so you can shred up a virtual fretboard with your pc. I could see this happening in GH3.

I think the big question is do we even need a GH3... Seeing as we will be able to DL songs it might just be better to release expansions for dl (they wouldn't have expenses like the disc and packaging). I'm sure they could add new features with downloadable updates...
 
I think the downloadable songs will be GH1 songs, and maybe some small underground stuff, if they released major label stuff how could they justify making Guitar Hero 3?
 
oooooooyea cant wait for this to hit the 360 , i already ordered the KEG's . . . . now i just need a number so i can order some strippers . . . . . YAY!!!!:applause:
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']They already had their one alotted song.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Needs more.
 
[quote name='hhhdx4']I think the downloadable songs will be GH1 songs, and maybe some small underground stuff, if they released major label stuff how could they justify making Guitar Hero 3?[/QUOTE]

While I would really like to see some cool underground stuff in GH, it's probably not in the cards. Big hits from big bands sell. And I don't think they'll ever run out of music to choose from. There's a lot of it. :)

[quote name='fraggedbylaggers']There is a freeware pc game that takes mp3s and converts them so you can shred up a virtual fretboard with your pc. I could see this happening in GH3.

I think the big question is do we even need a GH3... Seeing as we will be able to DL songs it might just be better to release expansions for dl (they wouldn't have expenses like the disc and packaging). I'm sure they could add new features with downloadable updates...[/QUOTE]

Many 360 owners don't have Live. Mandatory downloading for expansions and sequels will never happen. It just wouldn't sell as many units as a physical copy.
 
[quote name='Mr. Anderson']While I would really like to see some cool underground stuff in GH, it's probably not in the cards. Big hits from big bands sell. And I don't think they'll ever run out of music to choose from. There's a lot of it. :)



Many 360 owners don't have Live. Mandatory downloading for expansions and sequels will never happen. It just wouldn't sell as many units as a physical copy.[/quote]Actually, I am pretty sure more than half of Xbox 360 users are on Xbox Live. That's still probably not enough for a company to decide to not make a physical copy for a sequel, but still.
 
well in essence, they wouldn't need to make a sequel. They could release songs over live. After a couple of batches of songs went out, they could also offer a collection disc. Sorta like what bungie did with the maps for multiplayer. That way msft is rewarding the live subscribers, and those not on live would still get updates.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Actually, I am pretty sure more than half of Xbox 360 users are on Xbox Live. That's still probably not enough for a company to decide to not make a physical copy for a sequel, but still.[/QUOTE]

That's why I said many, not most. ;)

And all the new features are cool, but I'm most excited about leaderboards. I want to see how my skills match up to the best. I'm definitely better at GH than any other game I've ever played.
 
I just really hope they do PS2 owners a solid and either release the new songs as an expansion disc, or throw em in with GH3.

Or maybe put em in an enhanced version of GH1 for the PS2???
 
[quote name='hhhdx4']The Beatles=/= Guitar Hero[/quote]


Uh, they have plenty of songs that they could put on Guitar Hero. The majority I agree wouldn't be great guitar songs.



While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Drive My Car
And Your Bird Can Sing
Blackbird
Yesterday
Birthday
Revolution 1
Octopus's Garden
Here Comes the Sun
Get Back




all of those could be done on Guitar Hero IMO.
 
[quote name='Seventh']WOOT This is going to be the first game I get with my 360 then when the "361" is released :).[/quote]The 361 S'not really worth waiting for. Microsoft already said It was just one prototy[e in a long line of prototypes for a pupoted 361. It won;t be here for a while. BUy guitare hero NOW*

*Spring 2007
 
i don't like all the co-op achievements.

I will for sure get this game, but i wish they would put out some better songs. I want some hendrix!
 
[quote name='elsnow77']i don't like all the co-op achievements.

I will for sure get this game, but i wish they would put out some better songs. I want some hendrix![/QUOTE]



if all GH1 songs are downloadable youll get your Hendrix.
 
[quote name='Mr. Anderson']And all the new features are cool, but I'm most excited about leaderboards. I want to see how my skills match up to the best. I'm definitely better at GH than any other game I've ever played.[/quote]All you need is a 360 now ;).

Are you planning on picking one up for this?
 
[quote name='LiquidNight']All you need is a 360 now ;).

Are you planning on picking one up for this?[/QUOTE]

Yes, very soon. I was going to buy an HDTV first, but I won't need it for GH, so I'm putting all my extra cash towards a 360 right now.
 
[quote name='Flyersfan']Uh, they have plenty of songs that they could put on Guitar Hero. The majority I agree wouldn't be great guitar songs.



While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Drive My Car
And Your Bird Can Sing
Blackbird
Yesterday
Birthday
Revolution 1
Octopus's Garden
Here Comes the Sun
Get Back




all of those could be done on Guitar Hero IMO.[/QUOTE]

How can you have such good taste in Beatles and yet like such an ass team as the Flyers? I am so baffled right now...

P.S. "And Your Bird Can Sing" is exactly the song I always imagined them putting in Guitar Hero. It would be so perfect.
 
[quote name='hhhdx4']I wont get into a music discussion since the last one was deleted, but wow...[/quote]

The truth always hurts it seems to fans of Metallica. They simply can't surmise that the band should have retired years/albums ago and that they have not come out with anything new, fresh, innovative, interesting, worth listening to in years and should actually shut themselves up as much as Tom Cruise should. They once were great, but have now tarnished their legacy with the Napster debacle and multiple crap albums. At least with bands like The Donnas and Sum 41 I know what I'm getting and that it isn't meant to be taken truly serious. Metallica was on a pedestal among the great metal gods of the metal parthenon, but have fallen and really have shown to be pure shit IMO. Franz Fernidand makes really catchy and fun indie-pop that sounds better than most stuff.
 
[quote name='Flyersfan']Uh, they have plenty of songs that they could put on Guitar Hero. The majority I agree wouldn't be great guitar songs.



While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Drive My Car
And Your Bird Can Sing
Blackbird
Yesterday
Birthday
Revolution 1
Octopus's Garden
Here Comes the Sun
Get Back




all of those could be done on Guitar Hero IMO.[/quote]
There's a few other good guitar driven Beatles songs...Helter Skelter comes to mind immediately, but even songs like Twist and Shout, Ticket to Ride, Help, Come Together, and especially Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band would all "work", I think.

I'd LOVE to see a Beatles song in GH3, or as a downloadable add on to GH2.
 
I hate those Smash TV-style achievments that no one can get. Challenging is fine, "requires a year of your life focused on hard practice and study" is not. Just having it as "beat every song on expert" would have been fine.

On the other hand, if it's possible to save replays or whatever, it would be cool to be able to download a well-played co-op game on expert.


Since someone didn't take the hint earlier and had to respond...
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']The truth always hurts it seems to fans of Metallica. They simply can't surmise that the band should have retired years/albums ago and that they have not come out with anything new, fresh, innovative, interesting, worth listening to in years and should actually shut themselves up as much as Tom Cruise should.[/QUOTE]
And that has WHAT to do with the first 10-12 years of the band's career? What truth are you talking about? Metallica did a ton of awesome stuff - the fact that they apparently aren't as good now does absolutely nothing to change that.

Not liking Metallica is fine - I certainly haven't been impressed in a long time, and for me their last good album that isn't a decade old was a collection of covers. Not exactly a beaming endorsement. That said, the band you'll take INSTEAD of them are pretty laughable. Sum 41 is shit. If Metallica are has-been's, Sum 41 are never was-es. Trendy, tired MTV punk that tries to throw in a retro-metal theme once in a while as a gimmick. I'd like to punch that singer with the scrunched up face to try to fix it for him. The mentality of little pricks like him is why punk is currently stuffed down a dark, stinky tunnel that resembles Britney's hole.

Here's a nugget of wisdom from ol' scrunchy face:

"The Ramones' genius is that they could say in two minutes what it taks most bands five minutes to say. You hear any of their songs once, and you'll walk away knowing it."
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I love when people "explain" the Ramones. Like the Ramones didn't do good 3-minute songs. Like 2-minute songs are intrinsically better than 5-minute songs. Like there's a deep message encoded in most Ramones songs.

Hell, I defy him to even NAME 15 Ramones songs.

"I also wanna say that if Joey Ramone and Jeff Spicoli had a baby, it'd be Sum 41." - Deryck Whibley, Sum 41
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Well, yeah, obviously, because the baby would be an equal combination of drug-addled semen and feces. No matter who was pitching, and who was catching.

And speaking of "catching," Deryck Whibley of Sum 41 (parents weren't good spellers?), how about you go write a second catchy song, before you dare speak a word on any topic, ever again?!?! BEGONE!!!

In conclusion, Sum 41 is 141 worse than blink-182. But both are better than 50 Cent, who is equal to 10,000 Maniacs. This one goes to 11. 69, dudes!
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']I hate those Smash TV-style achievments that no one can get. Challenging is fine, "requires a year of your life focused on hard practice and study" is not. Just having it as "beat every song on expert" would have been fine.[/quote]

I disagree. 5 starring everything on expert is an achievement done right, if you ask me. It sets a high bar which most players will never be able to hit. If you accomplish it, which is absolutely possible if you're really good at the game, you really have something you can brag about. It requires actual skill and dedication.

The Smash TV (and a lot of other games) achievements are just unfair. Guitar Hero's can be attained if you try hard enough.
 
Actaully I just noticed an achievement called "Lennon & McCartney Award", maybe a Beatles song will appear after all.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']The mentality of little pricks like him is why punk is currently stuffed down a dark, stinky tunnel that resembles Britney's hole.
[/quote]

:applause:
Nothing that is on the radio or on TV will ever be punk. That being said. Punk isn't really known for it's facemelting guitar solos...
 
Look I never said that Sum 41 is of Rock God status, but I can enjoy their fluff. Good catchy choruses for when you don't really care for much.

Metallica on the other hand is IMHO the most overrated band to have ever come out. Great singles here and there and a good album and a half, but lots and lots of crap.

And we'll probably never see license Beatles music in either a game or in GH3. I don't remember off hand without looking it up, but I don't even think that The Beatles have licensed any of their stuff for any online website yet.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']And we'll probably never see license Beatles music in either a game or in GH3. I don't remember off hand without looking it up, but I don't even think that The Beatles have licensed any of their stuff for any online website yet.[/QUOTE]

They hit iTunes about 6 months ago, to little fanfare but lotsa surprise for those paying attention. EDIT: After consulting with my wife and checking the music store, it appears they're gone from iTunes, so forget I said anything.

What you have to remember is who owns the Beatles' music rights - Michael fucking Jackson. It's not up to the Beatles, it's up to him. I can't think of whether he's ever licensed his songs for games (Moonwalker notwithstanding ;)) or not, but that could be an indication of if it could happen.

Now, Led Zeppelin OTOH, that would be my vote for "most unlikely to appear in a Guitar Hero game."

This month's EGM listed "Guitar Hero: 80's Edition" for the PS2 with an approximate Spring release. They went so far as to say it's unannounced but "trust us, it's coming." Anyone hear anything else about this? It could damn well make life easier and more palatable for those seething over the 360 bonus songs (and perhaps give you access to Iron Maiden).
 
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