How can you split a dsl line WITHOUT buying a router or other EXPENSIVE item?

[quote name='GrilledWitOnions']Wifi on DS has to be WEP security as best, right? It doesn't support WPA2? I remember wanting to do wifi but it was too much of a hassle to temporarily change to a different security setting, and I didn't want to go with a permanent, weaker setting... which I don't think is all that weak anyway. My understanding is that WEP can be broken but it's not as easy as simply jumping on an unsecured connection, you have to work at it. Anyone want to fill me in on if WEP is substantially less secure than WPA2?[/quote]


first off if someone wants in your networks they can. WPA2-PSK isn't "cracked" but with a common SSID and coWPAtty & those lovely rainbow tables its been broken.

Now the question - If you really dont want someone on your network WEP works fine. 95% of the people wont get in. The neighbor across the street wont connect their laptop to your network. Thats good enough for me.
That being said..someone one will get in if they want to. Now WEP has been cracked, the huge problem is these "interesting packets" or IV's. If someone wanted to they can capture these IV's and eventually get your wireless key. Thats cutting out all the boring details. It can be done in under 5 minutes with them slamming your AP(access point) for these IV requests. WEP has a very small key size(40bit later 128bit), those IVs I mentioned are just too small. WEP's IV size is only 24bits, & is finally uses RC4. IEEE decided that WEP was weak and decided to make WPA which took care of these problems which means we have AES which is very strong. Just a matter of time ;)
 
[quote name='Koggit']That's not a fair statement at all. In fact, it's just flat out wrong.

Switches and routers are two different things -- although most routers have built-in switches. Switches are for LAN networking (computer-to-computer), where-as routers are for WAN networking (internet).

For people with serious LAN needs, like serious gaming competitions, businesses, etc, switches are necessary. A good 16-port switch can be found for ~$100, where-as a 16-port router with good switching is far more expensive.

Most home users are fine with a cheap router, using it for both WAN and LAN. Others may benefit from a cheap router with a cheap switch, using the router for WAN and the switch for LAN. Businesses usually have a decent WAN-only router with an expensive switch. Gaming competitions usually involve switches and no routers, since they need low latency LAN but don't need WAN.

The point is, no, switches are not "terrible." However, the OP does not need one.[/quote]

Well, I should have explained myself better. I know what a switch is. ;)

I meant in his situation, a switch and hub would be terrible. Almost no home user would have use for a switch, when a home router would be more effective.
 
[quote name='PRMega']I would check with Verizon to see if you can upgrade your current modem to one with a built-in router. It's what I set up at my mother's apartment, I think it only cost (at the time, at least) about $10-15 more than the basic modem. She's got 4 wired ports plus wireless.[/quote]

Thing is, the modem was a 'no charge' one provided with my service and I just don't want that bill going up any further at this point. I'll probably just splurge on the Linksys wireless router others have mentioned, though with my connection speed(768kb), I doubt it'll be all that reliable for online gaming with the PS3 without a wired connection.
 
I've had this for about a month now and just switched over to letting things with wireless cards be connected wirelessly since I have a new connection (5 instead of 4). Is it normal for the Wii to have a crappy connection? I never used it all that much when I had it wired, but it struggled during the Nintendo channel (my PC was connecting to the internet normally).

What's the recommended security settings for wireless with this? I think I saw someone post about using a MAC filter and only enabling the ones I list. I did that but I think it's WPK or WPA otherwise (Not sure, but I know it's not WEP)
 
Hey you gotta pay to play. Computers and consoles aren't a cheap hobby, and while you can find occasional deals on gear, it still costs money. For example, I just ordered a netgear wireless G bridge with a built-in 4 port switch. It cost me about $80. Why? So I don't have to run a long ass cable across the 2nd floor and then into a switch.
 
OK, I've got a question, and keep in mind I'm an idiot so go as monosyllabic and non-techie as possible.

At work there is an intranet connection fed by a DSL line. Naturally,the DSLline has active internet but there's no way to access it. The line comes out of the wall, into a filter/splitter with the dsl cable going to the computer and the phone line going to the phone.

I want to clandestinely split that DSL signal for internet access on my notebook (which from this thread I take it means putting a router inline).

What is the least obtrusive means of doing this?? Just find a small router and stick it inline after the ethernet cable leaves the modem,then run one ethernet cable out of the router to the work computer and one to my notebook?? Would this work??

Keep in mind I can't play around with the modem/intranet settings because I need to do this on the sly.
 
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[quote name='Scatter']OK, I've got a question, and keep in mind I'm an idiot so go as monosyllabic and non-techie as possible.

At work there is an intranet connection fed by a DSL line. Naturally,the DSLline has active internet but there's no way to access it. The line comes out of the wall, into a filter/splitter with the dsl cable going to the computer and the phone line going to the phone.

I want to clandestinely split that DSL signal for internet access on my notebook (which from this thread I take it means putting a router inline).

What is the least obtrusive means of doing this?? Just find a small router and stick it inline after the ethernet cable leaves the modem,then run one ethernet cable out of the router to the work computer and one to my notebook?? Would this work??

Keep in mind I can't play around with the modem/intranet settings because I need to do this on the sly.[/quote]If you change any settings, someone will notice, but they won't notice a router connecting to your laptop?

At face value I'm going to guess if your work computer can't access the internet through this DSL connection, your laptop will have the same problem.
 
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