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Welcome to the Japanese niche games deals and discussion thread!  Feel free to talk about local and import Japanese games here.  Our goal is to maintain a thread dedicated to active deals on niche games including RPGs, Visual Novels (VN), Shoot'em ups (Shmups), Musou, etc.  Also maintained are pre-orders for standard, limited and collector's edition games with key release dates provided.

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nitrosmob said:
7 hours how many rerolls is that? I got tired at 5 and lucky 5 was my lucky pull. Also added.
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Thanks. Added you. I don't even know since I just started going through the motions. I'm also on ios with a non-rooted phone, so there's no easy way to just delete the profile settings file. So the painful thing was to delete and redownload the whole app and that big update all over again. But I'd say at least 30+ times. My best roll was a Roy before I got Camilla.

 
PS4's new update 4.50 is adding a "Boost Mode" for ps4 pro.

Seems like most games are going to run at smoother (higher*) frame rates natively, without needing specific patches from devs.  (Games tested with improvements so far: Bloodborne, Just Cause 3, Evil Within, Witcher 3).

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Some Comparison Videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deb-EaLTgzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqu1ObkxBAs

 
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Yeah the stat difference between top tier characters really starts showing up around chapter 6.   Which is like 1-2 real world days based on Stamina.  I highly recommend anyone who hasn't started Fire Emblem Heroes yet to reroll until you get a solid 5* melee type.

The healer I use is named Wrys.  He's an bald, ugly old man but he has a cool heal named Reconcile that heals both himself and his target for 7 HP each. For the early stages it was much better healing throughput than the two single target 10hp/cast healers.  The one really annoying thing was most of the early maps put him in the very front, even though he's fourth on the team lineup.

Another thing I've noticed is that having two of your three offense as range-2 attackers is not good.  I'm still looking for a green axes or blue spear 5star melee dps to replace one of my guys.  Double caster is not good; maybe if their stats were 5star high enough.

 
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Richard Kain said:
This is good advice for my do-over. He does hog a lot of the experience, which is a finite resource in a game like this. I might use him for pairing in some of the early chapters, where the stat boosts he would provide would come in handy. But it would be a good idea to use him less and focus on building up some of the other characters.
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Frederick is just a point-man tank. Don't use him to kill units. Use him to draw enemies in and then give the kill exp to your other guys.

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hmm...

Pick up UMVC3 on sale now for under $20 on PSN & pick up n play whenever.

or

Wait till next month for the $30+ physical release?
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always physical.

 
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Nothing371 said:
Frederick is just a point-man tank. Don't use him to kill units. Use him to draw enemies in and then give the kill exp to your other guys.
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This is good advice. I would either give Frederick a crappy weapon or just unequip whatever he has on him to maximize exp for characters with better growth rates. Frederick's growth rates are so bad that odds are, unless you overuse him, he will be one of your worst units by end game.
 
Frederick sucks....he can tank...i would almost recommend the no weapons, but if you're playing on a harder difficulty he can be used to soften the units for a killing blow.

Also I agree with Nothing's Fire Emblem Heroes sentiment. 2 range is not great....I had an archer and tarja cause of a mission for the stone (a hard one) and it sucked. I do hope I can roll a healer or it's going to be a 3 attack team (one each type) and Tharja. Later missions are getting harder even with a 5 star unit. I'm just about to start Chapter 7.

 
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Say_Jayx3 said:
hmm...

Pick up UMVC3 on sale now for under $20 on PSN & pick up n play whenever.

or

Wait till next month for the $30+ physical release?
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I'd wait for the physical disc, though the digital is tempting.

As for swapping a disc out of the console, doesn't that take all of .02 seconds?

 
Im still butthurt i brought digital only for physical to get announced the next day or two.

I dont care enough about possible rarity to double dip.
 
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NeoMonk said:
The more I read about FEH the less I want to download it... sounds like a huge time sink. :speaktothehand:
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It's actually really fun for a stupid phone game, and I hate phone gaming with a passion. If you enjoy Fire Emblem then you'll love the characters in Heroes. It's fan service-y. If you never played FE before though, it's probably a pass.

You can play this for a few minutes a day and have fun.

 
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NeoMonk said:
The more I read about FEH the less I want to download it... sounds like a huge time sink. :speaktothehand:
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It seems like it. The missions are grindy and the energy system is not great (5 minutes for 1 point)...don't think you can increase said pool without paying i'm sure. The battles aren't that bad but later on the AI seems to get better and gang up on your low HP units. 4 units is likely not enough...should have been 6 with a slightly bigger field. It has Fire Emblem heroes (haha), and that's why anyone would play it. I may quit after I kill the story (which is laughable....it's the same story repeated every chapter).

For a very fair to play f2p I recommend Dandy Dungeon. It does get repetitive but their is a lot of character and it's decently challenging and lots of stuff to unlock and such.

 
NeoMonk said:
The more I read about FEH the less I want to download it... sounds like a huge time sink. :speaktothehand:
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Ya, they are time and money sinks if you get into it. I tend to avoid them like the plague. The only one I would consider playing would be F/GO if they ever localize it.

 
Draekon said:
Stardew Valley is getting a physical "Collector's Edition" on April 11th on PS4 & Xbox One. It will include the game, a town map of Pelican, a mini-guidebook and a code to download the soundtrack. No word on the price, but I'm surprised that a physical edition is coming so soon. Since the game is $15 digitally, I'd guess that it will cost $30.

EDIT: They are $30 MSRP.
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Wow this is awesome news! I already bought this digital when it came out, but I'm going to 100% get this too.

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PS4's new update 4.50 is adding a "Boost Mode" for ps4 pro.

Seems like most games are going to run at smoother (higher*) frame rates natively, without needing specific patches from devs. (Games tested with improvements so far: Bloodborne, Just Cause 3, Evil Within, Witcher 3).
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Nice! I'm updating to the beta now. I can't wait to check it out. I'm curious if I will notice anything in FF XIV.

 
Ugh, playing both FEH and F/GO is definitely going to destroy my already limited free time (and MONEY).

Guess my backlog of console games is going to get infinitely longer....

 
Got 3 of 4 stars kinda happy, my buddy rerolled for a whole day, got 5 star Marth and Sakura and a 4 star tharja.

Stupid auto correct on these names
 
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On chapter 9 of story mode in FEH and its starting to lose its appeal which is fine with me. A solid day is the most a mobile app has ever gotten from me.  :lol:

 
CAiNiAC said:
On chapter 9 of story mode in FEH and its starting to lose its appeal which is fine with me. A solid day is the most a mobile app has ever gotten from me. :lol:
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I'm at chapter 8-5 or 8-6 so i'm close. It's losing its appeal with me too. The thing to promote units is ridiculous and the units you have that are lower than 4 get wrecked in later stages even with high levels. Pure bull honestly.

 
nitrosmob said:
The key to every Fire Emblem game I think is a balanced (esp in levels) team. They can tackle pretty much anything. Course a few OP characters here and there (Donnel!) and the Myrmidon class is a fave along with pegasus knights which get Gale Force are a fave.
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another thing to remember is there are tons of dlc cameo characters from the other games along with all the free weapons and such.

Richard Kain said:
This is good advice for my do-over. He does hog a lot of the experience, which is a finite resource in a game like this. I might use him for pairing in some of the early chapters, where the stat boosts he would provide would come in handy. But it would be a good idea to use him less and focus on building up some of the other characters.
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other tips are to put promoted units like frederick on the field with weak or no equipment and let him draw aggro for enemies. Since enemy ai is prone to attacking units without equipment first. Then you can have your other units go in for the kills. Since awakening has infinite grinding maps its very easy to become over leveled.

it may be persona bias but the usually best units in fire emblem titles are pegs/flying units in general and cavs. Most other units have minimal use. armored knights are especially worthless outside enclosed maps since their movement and stats are crap outside hp and def which doesn't do much if a mage or armor piercing weapons users come knockin. If you want you can promote one to a different hybrid class where they get a mount so they have increased movement. But generally its better to just take a cav and promote them to the armored horse back unit that way they are easier to level.

 
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nitrosmob said:
The key to every Fire Emblem game I think is a balanced (esp in levels) team. They can tackle pretty much anything. Course a few OP characters here and there (Donnel!) and the Myrmidon class is a fave along with pegasus knights which get Gale Force are a fave.
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Not every FE games, in conquest lunatic u can't afford to spread a blalanced level team, get your most OP shit like Xander and what not or the game will crap on you. And how is donnel OP in a game with infinite grinding? His cap is pretty bad
 
superxgaga said:
Not every FE games, in conquest lunatic u can't afford to spread a blalanced level team, get your most OP shit like Xander and what not or the game will crap on you. And how is donnel OP in a game with infinite grinding? His cap is pretty bad
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Well there's a difficulty mode where you can't grind in the game(i.e. Lunatic mode). I wouldn't know though. By the time I got him, the earliest possible time, he was already too far behind to be of any use to me.
 
Well, it happened.  Last night it finally appears I've hit the wall in FE: Heroes main story missions.  I can tell that this must be happening to most everyone else who didn't get god rolls of multiple 5 star characters too.  I was able to beat both 9-1 and 9-2 on the very first try, but only with some really tricky multi-turn juggling of Lucina + healer.  I won't be able to progress any further without some serious leveling or some stronger characters.  Everything hits way hard now, often one-shotting both my 4* guys, plus the levels are filled with knights that have really high defense. 

My team is levels 23, 21, 20, 20 and it's going to be a long slog to 25.  I guess from here on you play the story missions on hard for exp, and hope to beat training tower stratum 5. My second and third 20 orb character attempts gave only 3 and 4 star dudes that are useless.  Still enjoying this little game.

 
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Yeah I'm stuck on chapter 5 of world 8. My two four star heroes can't carry my 3 and 2 star heroes any further it seems. Imma try and grind some orbs and hopefully roll a 5 star hero.
 
whoknows said:
I've restarted a couple times and have two 4 star heroes...I guess I should keep retrying until I get at least one five star?
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definitely. The 5*s make all the difference.

you could roll with whoever, but then after you play the game for two days you'll just get stuck. and even contemplate deleting everything and restarting at that point.

You should try to get a good healer too, like Clarine or Wrys. They have 'Reconcile' which heals 7 to self + 7 to ally at once, and charge their Imbue ability every other turn (1 action to charge, +10 to heal). The self healing seems pretty important so far.

 
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Nothing371 said:
definitely. The 5*s make all the difference.

you could roll with whoever, but then after you play the game for two days you'll just get stuck. and even contemplate deleting everything and restarting at that point.
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Guess I'll keep trying.

Any easier way to do it then uninstalling and redownloading every time?

 
whoknows said:
Guess I'll keep trying.

Any easier way to do it then uninstalling and redownloading every time?
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If you're using Android, you can go to the App under Settings on Android and Clear Data rather than deleting and re-downloading. If you've linked a Nintendo account, you need to unlink it in the game before hand Misc -> Account Management -> Unlink or something along those lines before clearing data. You'll always have to re-download the two data packs after launching the game though. So make sure you're on wi-fi.

iOS? No idea if they have an option to just delete the app data without uninstalling.

Though if you want to go at re-rolling more hardcore and are on Android, [customspoiler='use an emulator,']
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[/customspoiler] but you may need a semi-decent PC for it. Then when you find something, pick that one, link your Nintendo account and switch to your phone/tablet/whatever if you want. Simply signing into your Nintendo account on launch will load up all your saved data. I don't believe there's any cross-data between Android and iOS though.

Out of curiosity and boredom I experimented with the Android VMs above. Best so far was two 5* being Tiki and Nowi. I apparently have the shittiest luck when it comes to healers though. Very rarely get them. Though I've had 8 12 in a row (two three sets of the 4VMs) give me absolutely shit as seen above.

 
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Yeah i'm done likely with FE heroes. I pulled a Roy (another 5 star) and have been using him in my teams. I'm on the last stage, but the mages and healers they have (plus they have 5 heroes vs 4 on your team) means i can't beat it with my current team. I need a healer or another Mage, as those guys are bit too strong. The story is GARBAGE though. If this really is the last mission (9-5), it's pure garbage. The disparity between 4 and 5 star units is ridiculous, as is the grind to raise your star level (even for something simple like 2 to 3 star). Whoever thought this was good should be shot. Also whoever thought having 4 vs 5 contests with strong opponents should also be shot. Many of the worst things of F2P exist in this game. It will be forgotten in a week i'm guessing.

On another note I finally finished one Da Capo 3 route. I choose the wrong route! Girl annoyed me so much and her family wasn't much better. Very, very weak ending, and If I read another oh she's so cute line, I will puke. Yeah, that jealous, annoying, overbearing girl who is trying her hardest to fail is cute. I really hope for better routes, but hopefully I got the weakest out of the way. I think Da Capo 3 is OK (don't think it's great) and one thing seems to bother me. The main song that plays when your in the dorms and everywhere really grates on me after a while. Not sure why, and I usually don't notice these generic route themes, but this one stuck out as grating.

 
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nitrosmob said:
Yeah i'm done likely with FE heroes. I pulled a Roy (another 5 star) and have been using him in my teams. I'm on the last stage, but the mages and healers they have (plus they have 5 heroes vs 4 on your team) means i can't beat it with my current team. I need a healer or another Mage, as those guys are bit too strong. The story is GARBAGE though. If this really is the last mission (9-5), it's pure garbage. The disparity between 4 and 5 star units is ridiculous, as is the grind to raise your star level (even for something simple like 2 to 3 star). Whoever thought this was good should be shot. Also whoever thought having 4 vs 5 contests with strong opponents should also be shot. Many of the worst things of F2P exist in this game. It will be forgotten in a week i'm guessing.
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That's how pretty much all F2P games work though. I would say I'm fairly well versed in F2P games and have been playing these types for a few years. Minus the ones I've quit or they ended up shutting down, I currently actively play 7 F2P mobile games NOT including this one. So 8 if I do. Two I play hardcore, 2 I semi play hardcore, and the others I just login and do a little bit. FE we'll see if I continue. But I do agree that it seems to be lacking something. Aside from waifus and the cool portrait art, I don't see why we don't just play the real FE games lol.

Although the problem that I'm seeing in this thread is everyone seems to be close to finishing the story. No wonder they're stuck. It has only been a few days. F2P games are meant to be grindfests and last literallly forever. I'm basically just grinding the training area over and over leveling all my units (not just the main ones). You shouldn't be able to breeze through all the content that quickly. The lucky few or the ones who spend a ton of money are the ones that get ahead. Everyone else has to be patient and save up the in game currency.

I don't know how this game will be later in the future, but many games eventually give you free event units/items that will make the parts you are stuck on easier and able to be finished. The problem is when that will happen and if one has the patience. One thing I've noticed though is global is usually treated much worse than their JP counterpart. Whether it has to do with laws or whatever, who knows. We'll see how it is for FE.

But I will say regarding your 4 vs 5 scenario, it gives it challenge. So I wouldn't put that as something bad. Unless you're saying you have all 5* units maxed out in ability and level, and you still can't beat it. Then that would be an issue with the game. But really, the whales need a challenge because they are the ones supporting most of the game. The reason F2P people are important is because it allows whales to either beat on them, rank high to make them feel superior, or just have people to play with. They make the whales, and potentially the dolphins, spend. However, I do agree the upgrading of rarity in FE takes a ridiculous amount considering there's no decent ways to get the materials needed. I haven't looked at 2* to 3* upgrading, but 4* to 5* is definitely insane.

 
Finally pulled a five star. Got a Cordelia who is nice but is a total glass canon. It seems she can kill anything non- green in one move, but she'll get destroyed by anything that looks at her wrong. My next five pulls were all 3 stars though so that was a bit demoralizing :p
I agree with nitrosmob though in that the story is absolute garbage. I thought the writing had been pretty weak lately in the past couple games but this is kind of ridiculous. Every chapter is just the same general thing with flat characters and no development whatsoever.
 
godofwar7 said:
Well there's a difficulty mode where you can't grind in the game(i.e. Lunatic mode). I wouldn't know though. By the time I got him, the earliest possible time, he was already too far behind to be of any use to me.
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conquest u cant grind anyways, lunatic just made sure that u cant Save/load on stats its all fixed everytime you start new game.

xander needs some item boost and Charlotte, simply because his weapon is broken.

 
Thatguy1513 said:
Finally pulled a five star. Got a Cordelia who is nice but is a total glass canon. It seems she can kill anything non- green in one move, but she'll get destroyed by anything that looks at her wrong. My next five pulls were all 3 stars though so that was a bit demoralizing :p
I agree with nitrosmob though in that the story is absolute garbage. I thought the writing had been pretty weak lately in the past couple games but this is kind of ridiculous. Every chapter is just the same general thing with flat characters and no development whatsoever.
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heheh. It's a free mobile game.

 
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heheh. It's a free mobile game.
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Yet I'm playing Dandy Dungeon, which is also F2P and has a pretty nice albeit simple story. It makes me like the characters and they are fun and such even with the simple story. So if it's a free mobile game I should give the story an automatic pass? Even something like Dragon Ball Dokkan Battle or Final Fantasy Brave Exvius have stories even if they're simple....they're still aight. It makes it more like a waste of time than anything.

 
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Yet I'm playing Dandy Dungeon, which is also F2P and has a pretty nice albeit simple story. It makes me like the characters and they are fun and such even with the simple story. So if it's a free mobile game I should give the story an automatic pass? Even something like Dragon Ball Dokkan Battle or Final Fantasy Brave Exvius have stories even if they're simple....they're still aight. It makes it more like a waste of time than anything.
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I guess i'm just saying, I wouldn't expect a great story from a free version of a game that story is already sub par.

I personally haven't played the games you are talking about (I generally don't play mobile games). But I would not expect a free mobile 9 chapter game with ~5 missions per chapter to have a cohesively good story of any kind. TBH I hit the skip button every time.

 
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There is absolutely no way the FE Heroes story could be worse than FE Fates story. None.

"Hey maybe if I do THIS good thing evil dad will love me again! ;_; "

"NO SON/DAUGHTER, NOW DIE... OKAY DONT DIE NOW GO KILL ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE."

"If I save them with you love me?"

"HOW STUPID ARE YOU"

 
superxgaga said:
conquest u cant grind anyways, lunatic just made sure that u cant Save/load on stats its all fixed everytime you start new game.

xander needs some item boost and Charlotte, simply because his weapon is broken.
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you can boss grind in conquest just like every other fire emblem game but yeah conquests is incredibly difficult to level in.

And jesus yes at the post above on fates story. man that story was terrible.

 
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Yeah, Fire Emblem Heroes is your typical Gacha game. I guess it's fun for a short while, but getting the characters you really want can be impossible. The quality is there. I love the voice acting, how smooth it runs, the music, but the gameplay and story is relatively shallow.

For anyone tempted to buy orbs for money, don't. It simply isn't worth it. I've rerolled accounts 50+ times already and I still have never seen a 5* Tiki. Why put real money down on a game that is designed to take advantage of unlucky people? You can still beat the game without spending anything, and just reroll accounts if you want a certain character. Unless you really want to throw money at Nintendo, it's unnecessary. Save your money for Fire Emblem Echoes if you need your SRPG fix.

 
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