Kickstarter: Ouya Video Game Console (Coming to Target, Amazon, GameStop, Best Buy)

[quote name='Xaliqen']It sounds like you just don't get Kickstarter, which is fine.[/QUOTE]

There's a difference between not understanding the concept, which is what you appear to be implying, and not agreeing with the concept.

I don't think there's any problem with supporting projects if you have faith in them. I just think that it's difficult to have that kind of faith in a commercial organization that's essentially panhandling online.

If you believe in a project enough that you're willing to kiss that money goodbye and see nothing in return, then there's nothing wrong with that - if the project works out, then consider it a bonus. :)
 
[quote name='Schildkrote']There's a difference between not understanding the concept, which is what you appear to be implying, and not agreeing with the concept.

I don't think there's any problem with supporting projects if you have faith in them. I just think that it's difficult to have that kind of faith in a commercial organization that's essentially panhandling online.

If you believe in a project enough that you're willing to kiss that money goodbye and see nothing in return, then there's nothing wrong with that - if the project works out, then consider it a bonus. :)[/QUOTE]

I wasn't implying you don't understand it on an intellectual level. It just seemed like you don't believe in exchanging capital for ideas, maybe you do.

Just remember, if one of those ideas comes to fruition and you benefit, it's because of people who believed in it and were willing to make it happen.
 
[quote name='Byakurai']I foresee Gameloft sticking their fingers into this pie.[/QUOTE]
Only on the game developers side of things...
 
I was looking for a micro pc just today! This thing doing 1080p, with WiFi, and a controller is a better deal than other $50-100 boards. The others I found are slower, lower resolution, no WiFi, no case!, and no Google Play store. If you can run any hard drive, keyboard, or mouse out the USB port this thing sounds just right.

I bet the launch price will be closer to $225 than the $99 tier. Hmm, 437 left.
 
[quote name='pantsattack']I was looking for a micro pc just today! This thing doing 1080p, with WiFi, and a controller is a better deal than other $50-100 boards. The others I found are slower, lower resolution, no WiFi, no case!, and no Google Play store. If you can run any hard drive, keyboard, or mouse out the USB port this thing sounds just right.

I bet the launch price will be closer to $225 than the $99 tier. Hmm, 437 left.[/QUOTE]

Even before the Kickstarter thing started, Ouya has been advertising this as a $99 box.

[quote name='cancerman1120']My question is since Double Fine caused Kickstarter to become a huge avenue for video game "developers" to fund things how many products have been created?

I just know this whole trend is going to end up going bad. Double Fine has the resources to make the game they promised regardless of the Kickstarter but these start-ups are too much a risk for me. You know there is going to be A LOT of failures and some really really raging gamers out there.[/QUOTE]

The Double Fine thing only occurred this year. That doesn't really leave a lot of time for a game to get funded and get made. There have been non-gaming failures though. Look up ZionEyez for a quick example. Raised over 300k back in July '11, promised deliver in the winter, still no sign of anything.
 
[quote name='pantsattack']I was looking for a micro pc just today! This thing doing 1080p, with WiFi, and a controller is a better deal than other $50-100 boards. The others I found are slower, lower resolution, no WiFi, no case!, and no Google Play store. If you can run any hard drive, keyboard, or mouse out the USB port this thing sounds just right.

I bet the launch price will be closer to $225 than the $99 tier. Hmm, 437 left.[/QUOTE]

You can always cancel a pledge later. I backed knowing I 90% want to back this. If I decide against it I can always back out later and I wont feel bad because I know someone else will snap up my pledge. Better to get in and cancel later then to miss out after deciding you want in.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']Not trying to hijack the thread with something else but it this Project sort of out-shadowed Penny Arcade using Kickstarter to try to go ad free.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/575109064/penny-arcade-sells-out?ref=live[/QUOTE]
Not going to lie. I may have to turn in my CAG card for this, but supporting an ad-free Penny Arcade and getting Gabe to go chase ducks screaming names was easily worth the $1.
 
[quote name='boneless']Well, there's 5000+ available at the $99 price range now. I hope they're prepared for the production.[/QUOTE]

Seems like a Catch 22 - the more they sell, the higher likelihood the Ouya becomes a real thing. But the higher production numbers mean it's going to take longer to get this thing in our hands - probably not before the end of the world, anyway, if you subscribe to that sort of idea.

But if their promises are fulfilled, I can wait.
 
This has the potential to be one of the most revolutionary and disruptive happenings in the console space ever given the price-point and, more importantly, the open nature of the hardware/platform.

OUYA could be a giant leap towards the one-console future if not just a great place to play indie games. (which is the majority of what interests me these days)
 
[quote name='jaso']Seems like a Catch 22 - the more they sell, the higher likelihood the Ouya becomes a real thing. But the higher production numbers mean it's going to take longer to get this thing in our hands - probably not before the end of the world, anyway, if you subscribe to that sort of idea.

But if their promises are fulfilled, I can wait.[/QUOTE]
In this case I won't have use for that $99 so I'll take my chances. Besides we already know the earliest we'll get them is March '13. Probably closer to Sept '13 would be my guess.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']Not trying to hijack the thread with something else but it this Project sort of out-shadowed Penny Arcade using Kickstarter to try to go ad free.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/575109064/penny-arcade-sells-out?ref=live[/QUOTE]

Ehh, I can live with ads. They're there so I don't HAVE to pay for content or donate. This is basically PA saying "We'd rather have all teh monies now so we can invest them into other things to sell you later rather than slowly get it from ads." Which, in a way, is the spirit of Kickstarter...giving people money so they can produce things that you wouldn't otherwise be able to consume...but at least I'm getting an awesome set top box out of my money here.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']Not trying to hijack the thread with something else but it this Project sort of out-shadowed Penny Arcade using Kickstarter to try to go ad free.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/575109064/penny-arcade-sells-out?ref=live[/QUOTE]
I'd be down for that one just to see a video of gabe chasing down ducks shouting all the names. (Just for the record... I haven't seen an ad in like 5 years thanks to mozilla ad-blocker)
 
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I have a PC with free and indie games. I can use a controller on it and hook it up to the TV. I also already have an Android. Why would I want this? (This isn't a sarcastic, rhetorical question. I'm genuinely trying to understand what the selling point is here.)
 
this thing looks pretty cool--- its everything the apple TV could and should be but for android.


I think that this is the anti-deal though---paying up front for a product that may never even materialize or be a shadow of what its supposed to be.

I think the growth of kickstarter is absolutely terrible for consumers. When you give an entity a huge chunk of money without any real accountability there is a serious danger of abuse and exploitation or just flat out failure. As far as I know these companies aren't really vetted like they would be if a real investor with a stake was involved. Just cause somebody has a great idea doesn't mean they have what it takes to bring it to market and succeed on their own.
 
[quote name='SlightlyOffTrack']I have a PC with free and indie games. I can use a controller on it and hook it up to the TV. I also already have an Android. Why would I want this? (This isn't a sarcastic, rhetorical question. I'm genuinely trying to understand what the selling point is here.)[/QUOTE]

Your computer isn't hooked up to the TV unless you're in the minority and have a HTPC or hook up your laptop. $99 isn't much to spend on something that's a permanent fixture. Also, your phone or tablet probably doesn't have a Tegra 3 chip unless you JUST bought it and you also probably don't want to constantly have it hooked up to your TV. It also isn't basically rooted out of the box.

The key here is that a) it's a small, permanent livingroom device and b) it's only $99. The price point puts it in the realm of impulse buy and it's the only decent Android device (save Google TVs, which are crap for games) designed for use with a TV.
 
[quote name='SlightlyOffTrack']I have a PC with free and indie games. I can use a controller on it and hook it up to the TV. I also already have an Android. Why would I want this? (This isn't a sarcastic, rhetorical question. I'm genuinely trying to understand what the selling point is here.)[/QUOTE]

Most of us don't have PCs that are hooked up to the TV with controllers. And even if we wanted to it would be tough to find one with the functionality this has for $99.
 
For me the selling point is being not only able to but rather fully encouraged to hack it to bits.

I'd only caution those dismissing tablet games that Spiderweb Software is releasing tablet games, the Baldur's Gate remakes will be tablet games, Legend of Grimrock will eventfully be a tablet game, and so on and so forth.

The space is changing as the hardware becomes more capable and that's without hardware specs with official controllers.
 
[quote name='SlightlyOffTrack']I have a PC with free and indie games. I can use a controller on it and hook it up to the TV. I also already have an Android. Why would I want this? (This isn't a sarcastic, rhetorical question. I'm genuinely trying to understand what the selling point is here.)[/QUOTE]

Maybe you don't want it and that's ok. I don't have any box for the TV at the moment so for the same price as a roku the ouya has all the same streaming content, an app store, games and a nice looking controller. And I should be able to play all my old SNES games.
 
And it's funded. Dang that was quick! I think they should keep taking orders on this. Assuming that they can actually deliver these consoles, it will only help their installed base to ride the hype.
 
I believe very strongly in this. I'll be kicking myself later for not forking over the $95 but I just can't afford it right now. I wish these developers all the success they deserve. What they are doing it pretty awesome.
 
Yeah, this will be an awesome emu box. I bet within 2 weeks of launch there is an emulator pack (for games you already legally own of course) for all classic systems, as well as some portables.

Also, I am hoping they update with stretch goals soon like 1st party games included with launch, etc.

Wow, they're fully funded.
 
We also don't know how they plan to handle previous Google Play purchases: As it stands now any one of my purchases can be sent to any of my compatible Android devices and it'll even spit-out a different version depending on said device. (Plants vs. Zombies comes to mind)

Putting something like OUYA in that light, it could be a supplemental and backwards compatible experience for existing Android games/apps already on your Play account.
 
Well, I bit it and paid a bit of my college grant for this project. Still not 100% on this system, but I can change my mind before Aug 9th if I want to.
 
Well after much deliberation I jumped in at 99 bucks though if I didn't just dropped 4 grand on home remodeling I woulda put down for the 225 deal. I was wondering what the hold up was on an android based game console. Hope it has a long tail.
 
While I think this has potential to provide games that otherwise might not find a broad market (or any market), all the talk on the web about competing with the "Big 3" is ludicrous.
 
I placed my pledge an hour after it went live this morning. Never thought they will hit there goal until maybe near August, but they did it in 8 hours and moving toward 1 mill soon.

Us gamers have together introduced a new console onto the market today, 11 years right after the original xbox.
 
It won't compete in the traditional way to mainly because they all have to be very aware of what just happened. People gave a mil to this in under half a day. Know where it's screwed? At fending off the idea being jacked.

Google though is gonna have to get involved though.
 
[quote name='htz']I placed my pledge an hour after it went live this morning. Never thought they will hit there goal until maybe near August, but they did it in 8 hours and moving toward 1 mill soon.

Us gamers have together introduced a new console onto the market today, 11 years right after the original xbox.[/QUOTE]

+1 internets to all of us who voted with our wallets today ;-)
 
[quote name='htz']I placed my pledge an hour after it went live this morning. Never thought they will hit there goal until maybe near August, but they did it in 8 hours and moving toward 1 mill soon.

Us gamers have together introduced a new console onto the market today, 11 years right after the original xbox.[/QUOTE]

I was pretty excited about that a well. I put my money down right after you posted basically. I hope this really does live up to the preconcieved notions I have in my head haha
 
I bet these things start going for well over $100 once they start getting shipped out and people start putting them up on eBay.
 
Well I went from skepticism to backing it pretty quickly. I'm stuck with the Droid I have now because of Verizon Wireless's horrible new policy about upgrading smart phones on their new plan; This is the way to get a solid Android device without dropping a lot of money.

More importantly, however, is the idea behind it. I grew up a console gamer but am almost exclusively a PC gamer now. My PS3 sadly mostly serves as a movie player. Console gaming has just taken such an ugly turn, in my opinion. It's all about gimmicks and selling games based on franchise names. The advent of multiplayer game codes and subscription fees for online gaming have made the situation even worse.

Perhaps the must ludicrous thing of all is that, despite the fact that consoles are trying to market themselves as full-fledged entertainment systems, they keep everything locked down and actually punish those who try to get the most out of a product they paid for. This is such a refreshing change and a right step for the industry. I want to see this succeed in the hopes that the big companies will get a wake up call.

I'm sure I'll really enjoy my new toy and the many possibilities that come with it, but for me I'm mostly just backing the principle of it.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']The ability to hack this thing (which is encouraged) will pretty much eliminate any solid MP experience.[/QUOTE]

Or encourage it. A lot of people miss the days of crazy cheats. I mean yes you will get games where you are playing a Halo like game and then you face an invincible opponet, but you will also get games where everyone is rocket jumping around the stage and doing crazy things that make it so much more interesting and fun. If you want to play with non cheaters you just make a few friends you can trust and play purely with them. Easy squeezy.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']The ability to hack this thing (which is encouraged) will pretty much eliminate any solid MP experience.[/QUOTE]

Hack can mean different things and it's not being used in the sense you're thinking of.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']The ability to hack this thing (which is encouraged) will pretty much eliminate any solid MP experience.[/QUOTE]

Either I'm misunderstanding your comment, or you might be misunderstanding what they mean by "hack."

They probably shouldn't have used that word, since the older definition is rarely used now.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']Hack can mean different things and it's not being used in the sense you're thinking of.[/QUOTE]

No I am. The ability to root the device gives you control over the device. Having control over the device makes it much easier to write protocols to control software on that device.
 
I really want this, but sadly, I don't have a way to "pledge" with kickstarter. Maybe I can order it another way when it launches. I'm really interested in game programming, and I think this would be a lot of fun.
 
And seriously, people? 2 star rating on this thread? I just got a unique, unlocked video game console for under $100 shipped. Vote this thing up and spread the support.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']No I am. The ability to root the device gives you control over the device. Having control over the device makes it much easier to write protocols to control software on that device.[/QUOTE]

Sure, but that's true for every home PC.
 
[quote name='apterous']Yeah, this will be an awesome emu box. I bet within 2 weeks of launch there is an emulator pack (for games you already legally own of course) for all classic systems, as well as some portables.

Also, I am hoping they update with stretch goals soon like 1st party games included with launch, etc.

Wow, they're fully funded.[/QUOTE]
If they allow fight sticks via USB support this could be interesting for fighting games or like shmups. Also yeah I can see this being a great box just for emu (assuming they allow external memory like an SD card). I been wanting something that I can hook up to my tv and play classic games on.

Also what's holding me back is the whole lack of SDK information. How different is it to make games than android itself. If there was little or nothing to do, I would consider buying one today, but I might just wait it out.
 
This console will absolutely not survive in this day and age. It does not matter that it's not a direct competitor with Sony or Microsoft.

Yes it has 8,000 backers - but beyond those folks it will not last long at all. It is very difficult for game companies (console, PC, or mobile) to be successful and stay successful today. Just look at the amount of studio closings and sales struggles over the past year.

Please don't be naive and think that this will actually be relevant beyond 'Teh haxxor' community. I give it a year post launch - at most.
 
[quote name='Xaliqen']Sure, but that's true for every home PC.[/QUOTE]

Right and most of the pirating happens there. I will be interested in figuring out how "free games" will benefit a developer.

My nephews (11 and 15) have jailbroke iOS devices and never pay for any apps.
 
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