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[quote name='sprice8688']it didnt make me renew heyward beys so id assume i have his origional contract from oakland[/QUOTE]

Weird... Looking at Heyward-Bey's contract for the Lions, it says his cap number is $3.64M in 2012 and $4.74M in 2013. When he was on the Raiders, it was $6.64M in 2012 and $7.74M. So it looks like somehow the move to the Lions shed $3M per year off of his contract. Can anyone shed any light on this?
 
[quote name='bvharris']Weird... Looking at Heyward-Bey's contract for the Lions, it says his cap number is $3.64M in 2012 and $4.74M in 2013. When he was on the Raiders, it was $6.64M in 2012 and $7.74M. So it looks like somehow the move to the Lions shed $3M per year off of his contract. Can anyone shed any light on this?[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure it has to do with the bonus money. I think when you trade a player with a lot of his contract in bonus money, then the orginal team is still responsible for it. Check to see if the Raiders have anything under CAP PENALTIES in the Team Salary section.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']I'm pretty sure it has to do with the bonus money. I think when you trade a player with a lot of his contract in bonus money, then the orginal team is still responsible for it. Check to see if the Raiders have anything under CAP PENALTIES in the Team Salary section.[/QUOTE]

That's exactly it. You're like a bottomless font of knowledge. :D

Thanks again!
 
Started a Game with Tanabeo.... JUST tied the Score 7-7....and it looks like his internet dropped...this was about 10 minutes ago... Le sigh! :)
 
[quote name='siradam134']Started a Game with Tanabeo.... JUST tied the Score 7-7....and it looks like his internet dropped...this was about 10 minutes ago... Le sigh! :)[/QUOTE]

that td knocked out my power it just came back on im going to wait 5 min or so to see if it shuts off again
 
[quote name='Superstar']This Ravens\Patriots game is getting good.[/QUOTE]

Really? I just saw an 11-point swing for the home team created entirely by officiating. That's not really what I call "good".
 
[quote name='bvharris']Really? I just saw an 11-point swing for the home team created entirely by officiating. That's not really what I call "good".[/QUOTE]

I enjoy the physical game play when two teams like this go against each other. The calls have been shotty. and the refs are horrid - but I am still enjoying the game quite a bit.

Though neither of these teams are "my" team, so I may see things differently.
 
Dolphins Over Raiders 31-17

R. Tannehill 15-21 290 Yards, 3 Touchdowns, 1 Pick
R. Bush 21 Carries for 181 Yards, 1 TD

D. McFadden 12 Carries for 116 Yards, 1 TD

Raiders had 7 Sacks on the day! Just realized!
 
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[quote name='sprice8688']the refs got torry smith in fantasy :)[/QUOTE]

His catch was good, and good for him after all he's been through today. But that drive never should have been there, it was a 3-and-out which the zebras extended with that ridiculous call on Mayo. :roll:
 
[quote name='siradam134']Dolphins Over Raiders 31-17

R. Tannehill 15-21 290 Yards, 3 Touchdowns, 1 Pick
R. Bush 21 Carries for 181 Yards, 1 TD

D. McFadden 12 Carries for 116 Yards, 1 TD[/QUOTE]

Bounceback win for the Dolphins, hoping I can do the same tomorrow! Look at that balance - 21 passes, 21 rushes.
 
[quote name='siradam134']Dolphins Over Raiders 31-17

R. Tannehill 15-21 290 Yards, 3 Touchdowns, 1 Pick
R. Bush 21 Carries for 181 Yards, 1 TD

D. McFadden 12 Carries for 116 Yards, 1 TD[/QUOTE]

My Def blows I can't get my off back on the field I really need to start working on it more.
 
[quote name='theredworm']Lets go week 7[/QUOTE]

Im thinking this is going to be the one the decides who gets the first pick
 
[quote name='theredworm']wow.........[/QUOTE]

Any Ravens fan who is proud of that victory should be embarrassed.

Feel good for Torrey Smith, what a story, but the Ravens absolutely did not deserve to win that game. The refs were in the bag for the home team for the entire night, it was an absolute embarrassment.

I'm sure I'll get accused of being a homer, but this was the first NFL game I can remember where there can honestly be a question of whether the fix was in. Unreal.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Chuckled at Belichick trying to mug a ref after the game.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, it's going to take someone like Belichick taking the fine on the chin and saying in his press conference "the refs gave the Ravens a win they did not earn or deserve. This is an embarrassment for the league" before the NFL does something about it.
 
[quote name='augmog']That was a make up game after the td catch they called back against the eagles[/QUOTE]

That doesn't make it right, and it's not like the Patriots didn't also lose last week as a direct result of a blown call. This one was even worse. The bottom line is the Patriots would be 3-0 with the real officials and are 1-2 with these clowns.

I appreciate you not pretending this was anything other than it was though. :)
 
Honestly, I felt the officiating was terrible for both sides. But the Ravens made enough plays to win the game. As did the Pats
 
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Who wants to trade me a decent QB?

Edit: Didn't watch the game, but can only imagine how bad officiating was. The Chiefs game had 5 call reversals after reviews... embarrassing
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']Honestly, I felt the officiating was terrible for both sides. But the Ravens made enough plays to win the game.[/QUOTE]

Come on, Ramesu. I know you can't possibly think it was remotely even. You just can't, I know you watched the game.

Your team won, that's what counts in the standings, but don't kid yourself about what just happened. Just enjoy the win, and enjoy Torrey Smith turning into a star, because it's a great story, especially today.
 
Me and Cru's trade never went through. As much as I appreciate DRC wanting to shut down his old teammate jeremy maclin, not having Brandon Jacobs in the game pisses me off. Freakin EA
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Me and Cru's trade never went through. As much as I appreciate DRC wanting to shut down his old teammate jeremy maclin, not having Brandon Jacobs in the game pisses me off. Freakin EA[/QUOTE]

I could be wrong, but I think someone said earlier that they had the same problem and it didn't work until they tried it when they were both online.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I could be wrong, but I think someone said earlier that they had the same problem and it didn't work until they tried it when they were both online.[/QUOTE]

yep sprice/tanabeo's trade both had to be online
 
This is the sequence that completely changed the game: The Patriots were up 10-0 late in the first quarter and driving in Ravens territory. 2nd and 8 from the Baltimore 27, Ridley ran for 9 yards but it was called back on a hold on Gronk, replays showed no hold at all. Two plays later, Edelman caught a first down pass but was whistled for OPI on what was clearly DPI if anything (he was essentially tackled as he caught the ball). The Pats were forced to settle for a field goal.

On the next Ravens drive, the Patriots forced a 3rd-and-6 on the Baltimore 22. The drive was extended when the refs threw a flag on Jerod Mayo because his hand was on Ray Rice's back on an incomplete pass, even though he was within the 5-yard contact zone (it was a 2-yard penalty).

Those were the three most atrocious calls in the game by a long shot (in a game full of plenty of bad calls), and they completely changed the game. I'm confident that if you go back and watch the tape, they'll appear just as terrible as they did at full speed. The Ravens scored a TD on that drive, so it was at the very minimum a 7-point swing and probably an 11-point one if the Patriots scored a TD instead of the field goal.

Even if you want to argue that from that point forward the calls roughly evened out (which I don't think they did, but at least you could make a vague case for it), the game was already irrevocably changed by that sequence of events and what was on its way to being a Patriots blowout turned into a close game. Did they still have the opportunity to win in spite of that? Sure. And if they had, I'm sure I'd be less annoyed by what happened, but an 11-point swing in the 1st half is just as big a deal as one that happens late.
 
Anyway, back to Madden and its officials which are thankfully more competent than NFL replacement refs. :)

Broncos-Falcons going down sometime tomorrow night. Looking forward to see if DVO's improvement is real, or he just gets up for games where he can beat his brother. :D
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']I'd be as pissed as you are. But the Ravens made plays too.[/QUOTE]

They made plays, no doubt. Torrey Smith was fucking heroic, and Rice had a much better game than I thought he would.

But many of those plays that they made (including both Smith TDs) came on the backs of drives which were extended via phantom penalties. That's really not debatable, and it just didn't cut both ways in this one like it so often does. You really hope that even when there are poorly officiated games - which, let's face it, is basically every NFL game with these refs - that it doesn't directly lead one team to win that should not have won. In this game it did.

The Ravens deserved to win last week and they lost, this week they deserved to lose and they won. Hopefully it will balance out for the Patriots at some point, but that doesn't change the fact that with competent refs they'd be 3-0 and with these clowns they are 1-2.
 
Good luck to the Pats for the rest of the season. The game was awesome and I'd love to watch these two teams do it again with a bit more on the line (and hopefully with the regular refs). Btw....the Ravens had 14 penalties for 135 yards, the Pats had 10 for 82 yards.
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']Btw....the Ravens had 14 penalties for 135 yards, the Pats had 10 for 82 yards.[/QUOTE]

You watched the game, you know it wasn't equivalent, counting penalties doesn't tell the story. Read my post above about the turning point in the game, it was really not remotely in any sort of "it evens out" gray area.

But I mean, ultimately it's up to you about how to view this game. If I were a Ravens fan I'd view it as one we were handed, I'd probably even view it as karmic make up for the screw-job last week, but I don't think I could talk myself into thinking the Ravens deserved that one. But if you can, more power to you I guess.

[quote name='RamesuThe1']Good luck to the Pats for the rest of the season. [/QUOTE]

Ditto. I don't blame the Ravens, it's not their fault the refs gave them the win, they didn't ask for that. They took the chances they were handed and made the most of them, which is all you can expect them to do.
 
At least the field goal was good... I think.

The kick in the balls while down: This game also cost me both my fantasy games this week, one thanks to Smith and the other thanks to Rice.

Needless to say, there's no dog walk long enough.
 
I'm a little disappointed Belichick refused to rip the refs in his press conference. He's probably already getting a fine for grabbing an official at the end, he could have at least got his money's worth.

Oh, and how glad am I that I turned down a chance to buy tickets to this game? I wouldn't have made it back to DC alive.*

*I don't mean a Ravens fan would have murdered me, but that I'd have crashed my car trying to vent to the Madden thread while driving.
 
[quote name='bvharris']That doesn't make it right, and it's not like the Patriots didn't also lose last week as a direct result of a blown call. This one was even worse. The bottom line is the Patriots would be 3-0 with the real officials and are 1-2 with these clowns.

I appreciate you not pretending this was anything other than it was though. :)[/QUOTE]

I'm so use to seeing the ravens getting the short end of the stick...it feels good to get some home cooking for once (the pats always get protected by the refs)
 
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