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Since I thought the cheap 3DS games thread was a good idea. I thought I would start one for the PS Vita. I will maintain this site a few times a day going forward. Post links up to new deals and I will add them to the OP. Anyhow, here we go:

Updated 2/5/2014

Amazon:

Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational $15.50

Lumines- Electronic Symphony $18.49

MLB 12 The Show- $5.88

Silent Hill: Book of Memories- $11.68

Spy Hunter- $14.89

Gravity Rush- $18.53

Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time- $19.12

Need for Speed: Most Wanted- $15.99

Persona 4 Golden - $19.99


Best Buy:


GameStop:

Call of Duty Black Ops: Declassified $19..99 New/ $17.99 Used

 
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nintendospy said:
They will at some point in the not too distant future.

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Is there any guarantee all 3 console makers will still be in the industry 10 years from now? And if they're not, what incentive is there to still operate PSN, Xbox Live, or the eShop?
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I equate modern gaming with a Rollercoaster. It may be gone tomorrow but it's here today. Are you going to not take the ride on the rollercoaster because it's a temporary thrill or are you going to pay the money and enjoy the ride? Will you be bitter when the park closes the ride or closes permanently? It's easy to want to put money into things that last forever but nothing lasts forever. Games, even physical games, break or just die. Plus you are only one house fire, tornado, theft or whatever from losing it all. Then there is one other major issue, you. Will you be here 10 years from now to still want to download old purchases? Will I be here? Will I die on the way home today? Will I live another 50+ years? We are all taking gambles with our purchases... buying more than we can possibly play... watering down the entire experience of being a gamer because there is just so much to play and we don't want to miss out on a potential great experience.

 
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Tweeg said:
So apparently MiKandi Japan doesn't plan to update everyone on the pledge status of Libra of the Vampire Princess until this coming Friday. Makes sense when considering we were told to expect weekly updates and the BacketKit campaign is set to close on Friday, March 18th, to give updates on Friday's.

So just a refresher that the collective pledge total as of, Monday, February 22nd was at.: $198,626

$183,105 - KickStarter Campaign

$ 15,521 - Initial three days of BackerKit pledges.

Which just left $11,374 needed to reach the Vita stretch goal at that time.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mikandijapan/libra-of-the-vampire-princess-visual-novel-english/posts/1496132
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Hope they make it, I'll pledge as soon as a Vita release is confirmed. Or maybe it'd be best for those of us waiting to pledge to drive the total over the goal? If it doesn't make it we could always cancel before the Backer Kit gets locked down, right?

nightc1 said:
I equate modern gaming with a Rollercoaster. It may be gone tomorrow but it's here today. Are you going to not take the ride on the rollercoaster because it's a temporary thrill or are you going to pay the money and enjoy the ride? It's easy to want to put money into things that last forever but nothing lasts forever. Games, even physical games, break or just die. Plus you are only one house fire, tornado, theft or whatever from losing it all. Then there is one other major issue, you. Will you be here 10 years from now to still want to download old purchases? Will I be here? Will I die on the way home today? Will I live another 50+ years? We are all taking gambles with our purchases... buying more than we can possibly play... watering down the entire experience of being a gamer because there is just so much to play and we don't want to miss out on a potential great experience.
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That's a fair argument, it does come down a lot to the individual. I place a great deal of importance on ownership and collecting, but sure everyone is different. I'm not willing to pay a premium for convenience when it comes at the expense of the things I value, but I do see how it can be appealing.

There are a lot of hypothetical situations, but I value the first hand experience I've had more. When I bought the Xbox Live DLC I wasn't thinking about playing it in 2010 (when the serves went offline) or later, but there have been a few times since I wish I had access to it. Sure, I could mod an Xbox if I wanted to, but that shouldn't be the only way to access content that was paid for.

I've also never had a physical game stop working since I started on the NES. A few consoles yes, which are easily replaceable. Of course it is possible for a disc/cartridge to break, but I'll take my chances there.

 
nintendospy said:
That's a fair argument, it does come down a lot to the individual. I place a great deal of importance on ownership and collecting, but sure I've also never had a physical game stop working since I started on the NES. A few consoles yes, which are easily replaceable. Of course it is possible for a disc/cartridge to break, but I'll take my chances there.
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NES era used masked ROM, which have a much much much longer life than the carts we use today (since the DS).

So NES/SNES/GBA etc carts will outlast DS/3DS/Vita carts. That's not even a question at this point. The question is how fast the flash carts actually degrade.

 
Tweeg said:
So apparently MiKandi Japan doesn't plan to update everyone on the pledge status of Libra of the Vampire Princess until this coming Friday. Makes sense when considering we were told to expect weekly updates and the BacketKit campaign is set to close on Friday, March 18th, to give updates on Friday's.

So just a refresher that the collective pledge total as of, Monday, February 22nd was at.: $198,626

$183,105 - KickStarter Campaign

$ 15,521 - Initial three days of BackerKit pledges.

Which just left $11,374 needed to reach the Vita stretch goal at that time.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mikandijapan/libra-of-the-vampire-princess-visual-novel-english/posts/1496132

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When is the final day to submit backerkit again? I forgot.

 
nintendospy said:
I've also never had a physical game stop working since I started on the NES. A few consoles yes, which are easily replaceable. Of course it is possible for a disc/cartridge to break, but I'll take my chances there.
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A lot of game carts no longer save due to batteries. Most NES games that had battery saves are already needing repairs. They may still work but are crippled in the overall experience. Same for SNES, GB & some GBC games. I don't have any broken N64 games yet, but I'd imagine they will be next along with GBA games that used batteries. Optical media has it's own questionable life... mainly because of manufacturing differences along with environmnetal factors. Once the reflective layer starts to oxidize and deteriorate the disc can quickly become useless. But it's crapshoot. Discs from the early 80s could still play while random other discs from 10 years ago could already have issues. Still, even the best made discs have an expected life span and it isn't forever.

But modern games are in some ways worse because so many release with major bugs and without those online servers getting to play them will be an issue even when you have the physical version and all the hardware in working condition.

Still, none of it really matters. Enjoy it while you have it for whatever reason.

 
nightc1 said:
I equate modern gaming with a Rollercoaster. It may be gone tomorrow but it's here today. Are you going to not take the ride on the rollercoaster because it's a temporary thrill or are you going to pay the money and enjoy the ride? Will you be bitter when the park closes the ride or closes permanently? It's easy to want to put money into things that last forever but nothing lasts forever. Games, even physical games, break or just die. Plus you are only one house fire, tornado, theft or whatever from losing it all. Then there is one other major issue, you. Will you be here 10 years from now to still want to download old purchases? Will I be here? Will I die on the way home today? Will I live another 50+ years? We are all taking gambles with our purchases... buying more than we can possibly play... watering down the entire experience of being a gamer because there is just so much to play and we don't want to miss out on a potential great experience.
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nightc1 said:
A lot of game carts no longer save due to batteries. Most NES games that had battery saves are already needing repairs. They may still work but are crippled in the overall experience. Same for SNES, GB & some GBC games. I don't have any broken N64 games yet, but I'd imagine they will be next along with GBA games that used batteries. Optical media has it's own questionable life... mainly because of manufacturing differences along with environmnetal factors. Once the reflective layer starts to oxidize and deteriorate the disc can quickly become useless. But it's crapshoot. Discs from the early 80s could still play while random other discs from 10 years ago could already have issues. Still, even the best made discs have an expected life span and it isn't forever.

But modern games are in some ways worse because so many release with major bugs and without those online servers getting to play them will be an issue even when you have the physical version and all the hardware in working condition.

Still, none of it really matters. Enjoy it while you have it for whatever reason.
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elessar123 said:
NES era used masked ROM, which have a much much much longer life than the carts we use today (since the DS).

So NES/SNES/GBA etc carts will outlast DS/3DS/Vita carts. That's not even a question at this point. The question is how fast the flash carts actually degrade.
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What type do they use? I would think they would last more or less the same since you can't write where the game is stored if I remember correctly and uses other stuff for the saves in some carts prob flash or eeprom.

 
nightc1 said:
But modern games are in some ways worse because so many release with major bugs and without those online servers getting to play them will be an issue even when you have the physical version and all the hardware in working.
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Never thought about the inability to download all the patches and fixes. Many games launch with day one patches that fix potentially game breaking bugs. What a bummer.
 
mailman27 said:
Never thought about the inability to download all the patches and fixes. Many games launch with day one patches that fix potentially game breaking bugs. What a bummer.
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That's another concern, for sure. The good thing is many GOTY/Definitive editions include patches on the disc.

Carlanga said:
What type do they use? I would think they would last more or less the same since you can't write where the game is stored if I remember correctly and uses other stuff for the saves in some carts prob flash or eeprom.
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I'm curious about this too.

 
mailman27 said:
Never thought about the inability to download all the patches and fixes. Many games launch with day one patches that fix potentially game breaking bugs. What a bummer.
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Yeah... even more reason though to really play and enjoy the kinds of games you love now. It's like that rollercoaster comparison, those rollercoasters will break down and be gone. Maybe they will be replaced by better coasters... maybe not. Live life to the fullest and enjoy what you can while you can... and waste as little time as possible on lesser experiences. I think my problem in the past was feeling like I put money into a game so I had to play it... now I'm hunting for what really makes me say "wow" and puts a smile on my face and not settling.

And really reflecting on the Dreamcast sort of helps. I was there during the DC's life. I had a large group of online friends on IGN and we met up in PSO online and had a blast. We played Starlancer online and other games too. I would randomly play some Unreal Tournament and I had my keyboard and mouse controllers. It was great. Much of that is completely gone (the friends and the games), yet I'm perfectly ok knowing that that's in the past because having it now would be 1/10th the experience.

 
Carlanga said:
What type do they use? I would think they would last more or less the same since you can't write where the game is stored if I remember correctly and uses other stuff for the saves in some carts prob flash or eeprom.
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Don't know, but it is for sure flash. Probably some form of EPROM, since the type used in SSDs degrade like in two years.

 
Physical copies don't last forever, but as long as you take care of them they'll likely last longer than the servers for digital games will.

And just for the record, I'm still not totally against digital games or anything. I just vastly prefer physical. If there's a game I want and it's only available digitally, I'll still buy it.
 
Considering picking up RE2 for playing on the Vita since it is on sale this week. I have never played any of the pre-RE4 entries in the series. Is it worth it? Is it dated to the point of being unplayable?
 
mailman27 said:
Considering picking up RE2 for playing on the Vita since it is on sale this week. I have never played any of the pre-RE4 entries in the series. Is it worth it? Is it dated to the point of being unplayable?
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Depends on your tolerance for old games I suppose. It's still a good game but it has not aged well graphically and has a very specific play style that most would consider antiquated. Plus the translations in the first couple games can make them a bit hokey at times.

 
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EldritchOnRye said:
Depends on your tolerance for old games I suppose. It's still a good game but it has not aged well graphically and has a very specific play style that most would consider antiquated. Plus the translations in the first couple games can make them a bit hokey at times.
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Thanks for the take. I will probably give it a try since it is so cheap. I don't mind dated graphics and I grew up in the 8-bit era so I am pretty tolerant of older mechanics, if they are done well.
 
mailman27 said:
Thanks for the take. I will probably give it a try since it is so cheap. I don't mind dated graphics and I grew up in the 8-bit era so I am pretty tolerant of older mechanics, if they are done well.
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For the price if you can tolerate PS1 games it's still worth it. It's probably the modern era that's aged the worst so far though so they can be a bit rough.

 
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mailman27 said:
Never thought about the inability to download all the patches and fixes. Many games launch with day one patches that fix potentially game breaking bugs. What a bummer.
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yeah physical wise some games could be unplayable in the future or very difficult to play like so4 since the dino planet needed a patch.

 
To those interested in Airship Q, I contacted the developers and was told to expect an announcement on the upcoming English patch "very soon," and that the patch will be for both the Asia and Japan versions.
 
To those interested in Airship Q, I contacted the developers and was told to expect an announcement on the upcoming English patch "very soon," and that the patch will be for both the Asia and Japan versions.
 
nintendospy said:
They will at some point in the not too distant future.

Look at Xbox Live on the original Xbox. Lots of money was spent and none of the content is available to download. I bought the Ninja Gaiden Hurricane Pack, and if I were to turn on my Xbox today I couldn't download it. Which sucks because it was AMAZING. If Ninja Gaiden Black had got a GOTY release with the DLC included, I'd be able to play it. Now the PSP came out a few years after the Xbox, so the timelines are a little offset, but of course that content will be removed eventually.

As much as we'd like to believe they'll be around forever, there comes a point where the costs for Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo will not be worth keeping them online, regardless of how we feel. The Wii Shop Channel is still functioning, because I'm sure they make enough money from the tens of millions of Wii's out there to justify it, but what about the Vita, which has 1/10th of the lifetime sales? That clock will be shorter.

There's always rumors of Microsoft moving away from gaming consoles. which has been a money sink since the beginning. Sony was almost bankrupt after what the PS3 did to them. Is there any guarantee all 3 console makers will still be in the industry 10 years from now? And if they're not, what incentive is there to still operate PSN, Xbox Live, or the eShop?
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You forgot something. The games that you bought digitally can be played forever as long as you already downloaded it. I have already downloaded every game I bought digitally. It's stupid not to. So when PSN on the PSP and PS3 comes crashing down, I will still be able to play all my digital games.

 
Narukami said:
You forgot something. The games that you bought digitally can be played forever as long as you already downloaded it. I have already downloaded every game I bought digitally. It's stupid not to. So when PSN on the PSP and PS3 comes crashing down, I will still be able to play all my digital games.
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Will you? People have had trouble recently playing ANY digital games they purchased. If the servers go offline and you can't sign in, will they work? We won't know until it happens.

And for the systems that do have an actual offline mode, yes you can continue to play them, as long as the system keeps working, or you don't need to restore the OS, or replace the hard drive, or upgrade your Vita memory card, etc....

And with the Vita, 64GB is the largest memory card size. Is it even feasible for many people to fit ALL of the digital vita games they've bought on the memory card at one time? What about the stock PS4 systems with 500GB hard drives? Will that be able to hold everyone's entire digital library? Of course not.

Storage is already an issue and games have to be deleted and re-downloaded. Someday that won't be possible.

 
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Narukami said:
You forgot something. The games that you bought digitally can be played forever as long as you already downloaded it. I have already downloaded every game I bought digitally. It's stupid not to. So when PSN on the PSP and PS3 comes crashing down, I will still be able to play all my digital games.
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Remember that little thing with PS Mobile yesterday?...
 
Narukami said:
You forgot something. The games that you bought digitally can be played forever as long as you already downloaded it. I have already downloaded every game I bought digitally. It's stupid not to. So when PSN on the PSP and PS3 comes crashing down, I will still be able to play all my digital games.
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Just because you have the games now, don't mean you will later. I accept "digital" for what it is currently, but once gaming goes 100% digital, I might throw in the towel at that point and stop gaming.

Your Memory card can get corrupted, your device may get lost, stolen, or just stop working at some point. To think you'll be able to play all of your digital games 10, 20 or even 30 years from now is pie in the sky.

I know some people may not care to play certain games so far in the future, but I have to agree with those users who state digital as an extended rental program.

With each new generation, you'll run the risk of older games just going away. I can't see any of these big companies leaving access to their libraries for an infinite period of time, I just don't. Maybe, now that everyone has a system in place(PSN, Live, App Store, e-shop, etc), maybe they will continue to leave access long term, as it's doubtful something like "live" will ever end at this point, it will pretty much stay the same as long as MS is making games, but who knows.

 
We should just step away from this whole "forever" concept as a valid argument for either side of this debate.

Doesn't really feel like it contributes much to any of these conversations anymore, and it has kind of lost its meaning from being overused so much by everybody.

Find another point people!

 
Squarehard said:
We should just step away from this whole "forever" concept as a valid argument for either side of this debate.

Doesn't really feel like it contributes much to any of these conversations anymore, and it has kind of lost its meaning from being overused so much by everybody.

Find another point people!
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What do you mean? I plan to outlive these 2099 license expirations on my PSN games!

 
Squarehard said:
We should just step away from this whole "forever" concept as a valid argument for either side of this debate.

Doesn't really feel like it contributes much to any of these conversations anymore, and it has kind of lost its meaning from being overused so much by everybody.

Find another point people!
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There just seems to be a difference between physical releases which are at the whims of entropy, the eternal certainty that will slowly claim all the works of man and god, and digital releases which are at the whims of a profit margin. My NES games will one day die because Time is a bastard, my PSStore games will one day die because Sony is a bastard. I see no reason to look more fondly on either party just because they work on a different time frame.

 
^I feel like people are willfully ignoring the PS Mobile situation now.

Digital storefronts will shut down one day; that's a known fact. Beyond that, there are other extenuating circumstances that would render your digital games inaccessible.

Sony screwed up their system security so badly that one simple, common act makes you lose your games forever. And they actively chose to do nothing about it. That goes beyond inherent digital risk or profit margins, and is just the company being an asshole. It happened, just yesterday, and it could happen any other time. Making backups is completely useless in that case.
 
keyblader1985 said:
^I feel like people are willfully ignoring the PS Mobile situation now.

Digital storefronts will shut down one day; that's a known fact. Beyond that, there are other extenuating circumstances that would render your digital games inaccessible.

Sony screwed up their system security so badly that one simple, common act makes you lose your games forever. And they actively chose to do nothing about it. That goes beyond inherent digital risk or profit margins, and is just the company being an asshole. It happened, just yesterday, and it could happen any other time. Making backups is completely useless in that case.
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I agree, this was a HUGE **** move on their part, no question. I just bought some of these PS Mobile games within the last 6 months, and if I ever need to change my memory card, or have any issues, those games are gone. The least they could do is offer a refund for any of those games in a worst case scenario, but we all know that ain't happening. LOL

 
EldritchOnRye said:
Depends on your tolerance for old games I suppose. It's still a good game but it has not aged well graphically and has a very specific play style that most would consider antiquated. Plus the translations in the first couple games can make them a bit hokey at times.
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Squarehard said:
We should just step away from this whole "forever" concept as a valid argument for either side of this debate.

Doesn't really feel like it contributes much to any of these conversations anymore, and it has kind of lost its meaning from being overused so much by everybody.

Find another point people!
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So anyone have Digimon on the Vita and prefer it to playing on the big screen?

Debating if it's worth the extra cash for the portability.
 
theking_13 said:
So anyone have Digimon on the Vita and prefer it to playing on the big screen?

Debating if it's worth the extra cash for the portability.
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I've got the game digitally on Vita, put a good 30+ hours into it so far and enjoying it. Tons of loading though, not so sure about the PS4 version. If you don't mind the loading then I'll say it's worth it for the portability. Just careful though, DLCs would have to be on both versions of the game to use the cross save features.
 
Got modnation racers for free.
Had $5 off coupon at gamestop and game was $5.
Okay game, just have to used to it.
It was free not much complaining from me.
 
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