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Hotline Miami coming to PS4 this month.  Should be cross-buy.  Would love a new trophy list though I'm doubtful...

https://twitter.com/hotlinemiami/status/497892011504979968

 
Hotline Miami coming to PS4 this month. Should be cross-buy. Would love a new trophy list though I'm doubtful...

https://twitter.com/hotlinemiami/status/497892011504979968
Finally, yay!

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Wait, there's a $20 bounty for a Breakfuss baiting post? Why didn't anyone PM me about free money?

Quick and easy one:

This is in the context of Breakfuss talking civilly with MrNinjaSquirrel about 'bias' and 'polygon' (what else?).

I'll give a few posts for context, and bold the baiting.

This is the absolute definition of a 'baiting' post -- talking to a 3rd party and publicly insulting / mentioning/ harassing people not involved in the conversation, baiting them to join in and get in some sort of pissing contest with you.
Affa, you and others may not like me or the previous positions I've taken on trophies, the gaming press or Nintendo/MSFT. I assure you, however, that it's not fucking baiting. I wasn't trying to elicit a response. What I won't do is back down because it makes you uncomfortable. Whenever the aforementioned are brought up it is not my doing.

Give a fucking example of me STARTING shit and I will pay you, no questions. Otherwise I'm not going to dignify further attempts with a response. Offer stands.
 
You were in an off-topic 1 on 1 conversation with MrNinjaSquirrely, and despite the fact that you "never bring that shit up" you throw 4 insults at people not involved in the conversation.

1) Their arguments are "banal" (because you don't agree with them, and always misstate them)
2) Their arguments are "passive-aggressive" (then what the fuck is this post?)
3) They just 'retreat' instead of debating you. (what?)
4) Personal attacks. (Yeah, and this post isn't an attack?)
So there's a 1-on-1 rule now? In a public forum?

1) The arguments are banal because they never offer anything new.
2) I can see how you might interpret my post as passive aggressive, but I leave out names SPECIFICALLY not to single anyone out. Lol, the irony is that I'm trying NOT to attack anyone directly. Unlike the people who constantly are making "breakfuss hur dur dur" snipes.
3) That's typically what would happen. Someone makes an off-handed remark about Nintnedo going out of the hardware business, or Polygon exhibiting bias, and when I provided evidence that showed the contrary, I'm told to stop arguing.
4) The 'smart ass' bit was pushing it. Fair enough. But I don't apologize for calling someone's argument misinformed or banal if that's how I see it. It's never personal. I sincerely don't dislike anyone, especially @captain or @sjd or even you. If I felt that way I wouldn't even bother responding.
 
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Is it any good?

I always debate buying it.
You already know I'm not the biggest fan of these games. Which is crazy because I really did grow up playing with LEGO. Anyway, I re-bought Marvel on PS4 during the sale (previously had it on PS3) and it's decent. If you enjoy the source material and don't mind the same 'collect this, build that' formula then I recommend it. Just don't expect anything radically different. The open world is neat, I guess, but that shouldn't be the selling point since there isn't much to do in it.

You have a Wii U, right? I've heard nothing but great things about LEGO City. In fact, I've heard several people (who've also played Marvel) agree it is the absolute best in the LEGO series. I picked it up for $10 a while back so I'll try it soon. Biggest complaint seems to be the loading times.
 
Affa, you and others may not like me or the previous positions I've taken on trophies, the gaming press or Nintendo/MSFT. I assure you, however, that it's not fucking baiting. I wasn't trying to elicit a response. What I won't do is back down because it makes you uncomfortable. Whenever the aforementioned are brought up it is not my doing.

Give a fucking example of me STARTING shit and I will pay you, no questions. Otherwise I'm not going to dignify further attempts with a response. Offer stands.
I just gave you a clear example of you STARTING shit. You were in a conversation with NinjaSquirrel and publicly talked shit about people not in the conversation.

That is the definition of baiting (drawing people into a conversation that aren't currently in it) through insulting / harassing them. It has nothing to do with your views, only that you were baiting people not in the conversation.

Pay up, admit you're wrong.

PS -- you don't make me feel "uncomfortable" and i don't know why you'd think that. i just think you're wrong on several issues.

 
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Sorry, last post. But you know what would have been awesome? LEGO/TT developing a sandbox in the vein of Minecraft. I wonder if they kick themselves over not coming up with that or at least co-opting Mojang's project at its inception.

That's honestly what I want from a LEGO game. A world where everything is constructed of blocks and you can build and destroy as you see fit. Templates (even in DLC) that mirror the sets I built as a kid. Except I wouldn't want it in first-person.
 
From your spoiler:

"2) I can see how you might interpret my post as passive aggressive, but I leave out names SPECIFICALLY not to single anyone out. Lol, the irony is that I'm trying NOT to attack anyone directly. Unlike the people who constantly are making "breakfuss hur dur dur" snipes."

Insulting people without "naming" them is BAITING.   That's exactly what it is. 

Imagine if i posted "people that defend polygon are fucking naive" in a conversation here that you weren't involved in.

That's clearly baiting you.   It's no different from the post I quoted from you, baiting a bunch of us.   You insulted us and our position when we weren't engaged in a conversation, and the fact that you didn't name anyone makes it all the more baiting.  Your statement was clearly "fighting words" -- clearly insulting other people's positions and accusing them of being various things.

You claiming "I wasn't trying to elicit a response" is inconsequential, because you can claim that about anything people point out as baiting. 

Pay up. Seriously.  You're called out.  I gave a clear example.   Admit you're wrong for once, or just wriggle out of it and renege on your word.

 
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You already know I'm not the biggest fan of these games. Which is crazy because I really did grow up playing with LEGO. Anyway, I re-bought Marvel on PS4 during the sale (previously had it on PS3) and it's decent. If you enjoy the source material and don't mind the same 'collect this, build that' formula then I recommend it. Just don't expect anything radically different. The open world is neat, I guess, but that shouldn't be the selling point since there isn't much to do in it.

You have a Wii U, right? I've heard nothing but great things about LEGO City. In fact, I've heard several people (who've also played Marvel) agree it is the absolute best in the LEGO series. I picked it up for $10 a while back so I'll try it soon. Biggest complaint seems to be the loading times.
The load time are horrendous. I was just talking to my friend about Lego City tonight and said I hope it comes to the PS4.

 
Apparently for that season, Mac decided that it would be funny if they all got fat except for Danny Devito who would get skinny (who, no lie, once walked past me without me seeing him while looking straight ahead because he is legitimately that short.)

No one else wanted to get fat with him (including Sweet Dee, whom he married, after dumping the Sweet Dee whom they decided not to hire for the show after she broke up with Mac. The Sweet Dee we all know at first turned down the role.)

PS: if this post doesn't make much sense then fuck you because I've been drinking rum for 8 hours and this already took way too much self-editing..

PPS: This is about the most drunk posting you will get from me because I've heard of a little thing known as restraint until my mind blanks out.

 
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Donatello, of course.
I was not surprised at all, but I was a little sad to see Donatello (the nerd that he is) place 4th in a fav turtles poll. Surprisingly, Michelengelo was 3rd considering Raphael is a total dick and Leonardo is all emo (things may change with the latest movie).

 
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I just gave you a clear example of you STARTING shit. You were in a conversation with NinjaSquirrel and publicly talked shit about people not in the conversation.

That is the definition of baiting (drawing people into a conversation that aren't currently in it) through insulting / harassing them.

Who the hell is talking about you "backing down" because it makes me uncomfortable (what?)

Pay up, admit you're wrong.

In fact, this post of yours is baiting too. What the hell are you talking about in regards to making me "uncomfortable"? That's baiting me into a discussion.
Affa, that post was in the middle of a much larger discussion that went for pages. I cannot bait anyone into a fucking argument that's already started. You're taking it out of context. It's not fair that people can say whatever they want (regardless of how unsubstantiated) but get defensive when I disagree. If there's anything you can say about some of my older posts it's that i knowingly took positions that some here wouldn't agree with. Not because I wanted to "argue" or "bait", but because I sincerely believe the shit I say. Perhaps that was naive and futile, but it's NOT baiting. There is a fucking difference.

The hell do I need to come here and do that for? So, no, you're not going to force me to capitulate because you see it differently. I'm man enough to admit I am wrong. Show me where I've tried to incite drama and I will gladly pay.
 
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Hotline Miami coming to PS4 this month. Should be cross-buy. Would love a new trophy list though I'm doubtful...

https://twitter.com/hotlinemiami/status/497892011504979968
I was walking around E3 with the dog not realizing they were just in a trailer outside of the convention center in 2013. If I had known I would have just barged into their trailer with the dog and hung out with those guys for a couple of free beers. That year a friend of mine was supposed to give me an E3 pass.

PS: My drunk posting is not nearly as cool as velo's.

 
Affa, that post was in the middle of a much larger discussion that went for pages. I cannot bait anyone into a fucking argument that's already started. You're taking it out of context. It's not fair that people can say whatever they want (regardless of how unsubstantiated) but get defensive when I disagree. If there's anything you can say about some of my older posts it's that i knowingly took positions that some here wouldn't agree with. Not because I wanted to "argue" or "bait", but because I sincerely believe the shit I say. Perhaps that was dumb and futile, but it's NOT baiting. There is a fucking difference.

The hell do I need to come here and do that for? So, no, you're not going to force me to capitulate because you see it differently. I'm man enough to admit I am wrong. Show me and I will gladly pay.
Nobody cares that you have different opinions than them. Most people here disagree on all sorts of stuff. It's how you present yourself and your arguments -- and more to the point, how you misrepresent the arguments of those you disagree with, because nothing irks people more than being misrepresented (for example, you assuming and claiming that you make me "uncomfortable" is out of line.)

People don't tell you to 'just stop' because they're uncomfortable with your views, but because we're sick of hearing how banal, repulsive, and looney our own views are because they don't line up with yours.

I don't care if you love nintendo. I don't care if you love polygon. I don't care if you think mickey mouse is sexist. None of those positions 'bother' me. I just think they're all wrong and/or inconsequential.

And its saddens me that you're reneging on your word. Really does. If you can't see how baiting your post was, you're either lying to yourself or to me.

But hey, since you're convinced you never bait anyone, any example people give you will just fall on deaf ears as we're told how 'no, that's not baiting' because [reasons] and how we're trying to 'force' you to do things (like keep your word).

I won't even point out how offering $20 to people to find a 'baiting' post of yours is actually... baiting. As clear as a big hook with a nice fat psn card stuck on it.

But no, no, you never bait.

 
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I'm a bit annoyed that I already sold Watch Dogs on Amazon (that's good) but the local post office might be under construction (that's bad) so I'll have to drive to the next nearest post office just to ship it out (can I go now?)

PS: I'm not going to read affa's posts either.

 
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I'm a bit annoyed that I already sold Watch Dogs on Amazon (that's good) but the local post office might be under construction (that's bad) so I'll have to drive to the next nearest post office just to ship it out (can I go now?)

PS: I'm not going to read affa's posts either.

don't you have drop off boxes? or a mailman?
 
I've already sobered up enough not to bother to read breakfuss's fucking essays about whatever etc.
See, this to me is baiting. Condescending. And just mean-spirited. People drone on and on and and on about everything and you will never see me post something like this. I just wish people extended the same respect. You can dislike or disagree with someone without having to call them out like this.. Guess I'll stop playig the victim, though.
 
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I don't care if you love nintendo. I don't care if you love polygon. I don't care if you think mickey mouse is sexist. None of those positions 'bother' me. I just think they're all wrong and/or inconsequential.

And its saddens me that you're reneging on your word. Really does. If you can't see how baiting your post was, you're either lying to yourself or to me.

But hey, since you're convinced you never bait anyone, any example people give you will just fall on deaf ears as we're told how 'no, that's not baiting' because [reasons] and how we're trying to 'force' you to do things (like keep your word).

I won't even point out how offering $20 to people to find a 'baiting' post of yours is actually... baiting. As clear as a big hook with a nice fat psn card stuck on it.

But no, no, you never bait.
I only offered the PSN credit to Cainiac because I'm tired of being thrown under the bus for things discussed months ago. I'm brought up in a trophy discussion yesterday that I only see hours later? It gets old. Especially when I've gone out of my way lately to post innocuously. His mention of me, IMO, was the baiting.

I'm not denying I've baited before. What I am saying is I don't recall doing so. That's not the type of person I am so it boggles the mind that some people here think it. But show me and I'll pay. Offer still stands.

The insinuation that the press is corrupted is "insulting" to me not only as an educated and discerning reader, but as someone who has TONS of experience in that line of work. It's like when there's a case of a rogue cop who absuses his power and everyone is like "fuck the police". As easy as it is for me to think that (even based on my own experiences with the cops), it is wrong and cheapens the conversation. And it hurts the good people who are trying to do their jobs the right way. I don't give a damn if you "like" Polygon. It's never been about that.
 
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See, this to me is baiting. Condescending. And just mean-spirited. People drone on and on and and on about everything and you will never see me post something like this. I just wish people extended the same respect. You can dislike or disagree with someone without having to call them out like this.. Guess I'll stop playig the victim, though.
no man. No one has walls of text like u. Except maybe affa
 
I'm with Tyler. Anyone that paid for Proteus is a dumb hipster. What a stupid "game". I wandered around an hour got a few trophies and said fuck this. I'm done. Started up fez but didn't play it really yet. Will see how that goes.
 
And the trophy descriptions for Proteus...um can we say serial killerish? I got one that said something about daddy and it freaked me out a little. And I am supposedly the psycho one.
 
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Got a message on my jap psn account. They're giving anyone who plays 3 of the free to play games a chance to win 500-1000 yen psn. They also have way more free to play games than we do. Would be cool to see something like that here though.

Edit: also should have mentioned, it's for vita only.
 
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From your spoiler:
"2) I can see how you might interpret my post as passive aggressive, but I leave out names SPECIFICALLY not to single anyone out. Lol, the irony is that I'm trying NOT to attack anyone directly. Unlike the people who constantly are making "breakfuss hur dur dur" snipes."


Insulting people without "naming" them is BAITING. That's exactly what it is.

Imagine if i posted "people that defend polygon are fucking naive" in a conversation here that you weren't involved in.

That's clearly baiting you. It's no different from the post I quoted from you, baiting a bunch of us. You insulted us and our position when we weren't engaged in a conversation, and the fact that you didn't name anyone makes it all the more baiting. Your statement was clearly "fighting words" -- clearly insulting other people's positions and accusing them of being various things.

You claiming "I wasn't trying to elicit a response" is inconsequential, because you can claim that about anything people point out as baiting.

Pay up. Seriously. You're called out. I gave a clear example. Admit you're wrong for once, or just wriggle out of it and renege on your word.
#mercd
 
See, this to me is baiting. Condescending. And just mean-spirited. People drone on and on and and on about everything and you will never see me post something like this. I just wish people extended the same respect. You can dislike or disagree with someone without having to call them out like this.. Guess I'll stop playig the victim, though.
Dude, you just got quoted calling other people's posts banal and having so little substance that when they're called on it, they resort to personal attacks or flee the argument.

But I guess that's way more respectful than calling a super long post an essay.
 
no man. No one has walls of text like u. Except maybe affa
You're right, I might be the worst offender. I do have a hard time letting things go, lol (obviously). But...baiting? Please. People really showing how much they dislike me if they think I'm the one starting shit around here. That's cool.

Ghosts is having 2X EXP all weekend. I'll be on later (PS4) if anyone wants to hit me up. No trophies included (at least I don't think).
 
Dude, you just got quoted calling other people's posts banal and having so little substance that when they're called on it, they resort to personal attacks or flee the argument.

But I guess that's way more respectful than calling a super long post an essay.
How is that disrespectful? The arguments about the gaming press absolutely reek of banality and petulance. It's one thing to not like Polygon or IGN or whomever, but to accuse them of corruption? Shilling? Deliberately tanking metascores? To constantly place journalism in air quotes? There are certainly problems but that kind of language takes it to a place it doesn't need to go. Just my opinion - one that I've tried to stop arguing over months ago.

What I will say is that there may have been some softness from Ameirican outlets during the X1 DRM fiasco. I think a lot of people seem pissed that it was played down. If you think that equals partiality towards MSFT, fair enough.
 
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You're right, I might be the worst offender. I do have a hard time letting things go, lol (obviously). But...baiting? Please. People really showing how much they dislike me if they think I'm the one starting shit around here. That's cool.

Ghosts is having 2X EXP all weekend. I'll be on later (PS4) if anyone wants to hit me up. No trophies included (at least I don't think).
Until a week or so ago I didn't dislike you and thought people maybe were being unfair towards you.

Shortly after I 'threadcrapped' by saying I didn't read all that shit and just scrolled past (referring to the video game journalist posts) you out of the blue posted about how having two jimbo posters made you uncomfortable. I explained why I recently changed my CAG handle to match my PSN ID never really noticed the other jimbo (now I do though)

What was the point in just posting that out of the blue? To maybe get a negative reaction out of me perhaps?

Did you ever step back for a second and wonder why you get into it with so many people? Maybe it is them but maybe there is another reason?

 
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*I'm not going to buy anyone a PS4, because I don't ant to insult anyone, but you're all trash and not worth talking to. And all you fucking idiots do is personally attack me. You're a bunch of retards, and some of you just aren't funny (TYLER) and I'm always nice to everyone and to this day have never said a bad thing about anyone. I hope you all die in a fire.
 
met a farmer that has 12 kids today at the farmer's market his wife home schools all of them and they all work at the farm.  They feed themselves entirely from their farm (with apparently they occasional trade for a pig with a neighbor).  My life sure is easy street!

 
infamous pros: I accidentally did the positive karma choice at the riot during my negative karma run and let it ride.  I'm not going to fuck up the run am I?  I just need to be at the highest negative karma level when I finish, right?

 
Until a week or so ago I didn't dislike you and thought people maybe were being unfair towards you.

Shortly after I 'threadcrapped' by saying I didn't read all that shit and just scrolled past (referring to the video game journalist posts) you out of the blue posted about how having two jimbo posters made you uncomfortable. I explained why I recently changed my CAG handle to match my PSN ID never really noticed the other jimbo (now I do though)

What was the point in just posting that out of the blue? To maybe get a negative reaction out of me perhaps?

Did you ever step back for a second and wonder why you get into it with so many people? Maybe it is them but maybe there is another reason?
Dude. I've been here for over two years and have never come across a 'Jimbo'. Within a span of a week TWO crop up in the other thread. So, yeah, I was like wtf? Haha I genuinely didn't mean anything by it and hadn't seen you mention changing your handle until you told me directly. Hell, I still don't know what your old name is. Seriously, sorry if it come off the wrong way.

Yeah, I've considered why I argue with people here. Made a thread about it on GAF (hence the mercenary joke). It's silly to come here and try to promote my brand of agnosticism. Nobody wants to hear that shit and that's cool. I get it. Which is why I have fallen back considerably.
 
You guys itt have really cocked things up. You need to learn how to talk to trolls properly. You can't expect a troll to agree to anything without first having them say it before you do.

Wrong:

Naive fool: This is green!

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Troll: No! The red/yellow balance is off, it's not green at all! It's yellow-red!

Right:

Anti-troll warrior: Is this green?

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Troll: Yep, that's green.

Anti-troll warrior: The above is green. You agreed to it. No take-backs!

Troll: fuck

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infamous pros: I accidentally did the positive karma choice at the riot during my negative karma run and let it ride. I'm not going to fuck up the run am I? I just need to be at the highest negative karma level when I finish, right?
Yeah, you're fine. Just go around healing people if you're short on good karma (which you should be doing anyway as there's a trophy for a certain number of heals, and it's quite high.)

Misread that you were going for negative karma; just attack civilians and you'll knock it down real quick. Though you also need to leech enemies for that trophy in reverse of the healing one, which also gives you negative karma.

 
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infamous pros: I accidentally did the positive karma choice at the riot during my negative karma run and let it ride. I'm not going to fuck up the run am I? I just need to be at the highest negative karma level when I finish, right?
Go on a mass murdering spree and you should be fine.

 
infamous pros: I accidentally did the positive karma choice at the riot during my negative karma run and let it ride. I'm not going to fuck up the run am I? I just need to be at the highest negative karma level when I finish, right?
I would think you would be ok as long as there was not a trophy for that particular evil choice at that event. It is much easier to get more bad karma by killing a lot of civilians and such.

I want to say there is one choice near the end that will peg you all the way evil, but if not, it just means you will have to spend some more time than you otherwise would have.

 
Yeah I played on Evil for quiet a while. Then read some of stunts are eaiser on Good so once the Bioleach 100 downed enemies popped I started healing pepople. Got to full positive karma no problem.

 
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Breakfuss you still haven't even acknowledged Topside's example of baiting, which supposedly was supposed to garner a bonus since it was directed at stotch.

 
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