Steam Deals Thread V13 ~ Star Wars Empire at War $6.80 | The Legend of Korra $10.04 | Red Faction Guerrilla $2.99 |

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Summer sale has come and gone; welcome to the Steam Deals Thread V13!
 
Stop: Before you go any further be sure you are using Enhanced Steam. It will save you a lot of time and embarrassment in the future.
 
Daily Deal
Star Wars: Empire at War Gold Edition - $19.99 $6.80

 
Yesterday's Deal

N/A

Midweek Madness
The Legend of Korra - $14.99 $10.04

Red Faction - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction II - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction Armageddon - $19.99 $2.99
Red Faction Guerrilla - $19.99 $2.99 
 
Thanks to EastX, Detruire, Psydero, and everyone else that has contributed to the thread!

 
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Krugozor over in the Sell Thread has Skyrim Legenary for $6. I am very tempted at this price and I don't think I have seen it cheaper. Any reason not to buy (finally)? His post says everything on his list is region free.
 
lostnumber said:
You'll just have to fuck it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLVYkz5WEio
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Oh there's a LOT more than that.

(Yes, I wrote that. :p)

On another note, when I got to that boss my mind was blown. It was one of the most amazing boss fights I'd ever experienced... up until the game crashed when I killed the bastard and had to do it again. All the wonder at that level just... left. :(

 
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Palinn said:
Krugozor over in the Sell Thread has Skyrim Legenary for $6. I am very tempted at this price and I don't think I have seen it cheaper. Any reason not to buy (finally)? His post says everything on his list is region free.
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I'd guess that it has been obtained using a glitch to get a region-free copy.

 
Foxhack said:
Oh there's a LOT more than that.

(Yes, I wrote that. :p)

On another note, when I got to that boss my mind was blown. It was one of the most amazing boss fights I'd ever experienced... up until the game crashed when I killed the bastard and had to do it again. All the wonder at that level just... left. :(
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I am sorry but i don't find this game interesting enough. I guess I played it back in my console day and compared to most console games, it was pretty.. run-of the mill and generic. I was also surprised to hear the PC crowd rave about Binary Domain. For me, it was another generic Gears of War clone with robot. there's nothing done there that Gears of War hasn't done bigger & better. After a while, I finally understand that not a lot of action games got ported to PC and the one got ported over was pretty crappy port. I guess beggars can't be chooser (not to say that us PC gamers are beggars but we don't have a lot to choose from compared to the console crowd i.e. Vanquish or the Gears of War series)

 
Palinn said:
Krugozor over in the Sell Thread has Skyrim Legenary for $6. I am very tempted at this price and I don't think I have seen it cheaper. Any reason not to buy (finally)? His post says everything on his list is region free.
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I got my copy of Legendary via the cesspit for $8 during the summer sale, and I haven't had any problems with it. I mean, other than the usual Bethesda problems, anyway. Didn't buy from Krugozor, but I imagine the ultimate source is similar.
 
Palinn said:
Is this a common thing or something to avoid so I don't get my key revoked?
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It's commonish (maybe 20% of traders on Steamtrades actively do it), and there is a risk that you'll end up with a region-locked copy if valve decides to crack down on it at a later date. I wouldn't say it's a big one, but it's a risk nonetheless.

 
Palinn said:
Is this a common thing or something to avoid so I don't get my key revoked?
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Thanks for reminding me about the traders. I don't really want to give Bethesda any more money than I have to so I found a trader who was trading it for 3 TF2 keys on Dispenser.tf

Activated fine in my library.

 
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pasports31 said:
im finally done with skyrim

i feel so lost now
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I thought you could play Skyrim forever. I need to get my money's worth.

Cheaplikeafox OS X said:
Thanks for reminding me about the traders. I don't really want to give Bethesda any more money than I have to so I found a trader who was trading it for 3 TF2 keys on Dispenser.tf

Activated fine in my library.
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What is the TF2 key to $$$ exchange rate if you don't mind me asking? I am not key savvy.

 
Palinn said:
I thought you could play Skyrim forever. I need to get my money's worth.

What is the TF2 key to $$$ exchange rate if you don't mind me asking? I am not key savvy.
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It ranges, though usually $1.75 to $2 is a safe bet.

I checked on Steamtrades and they have a few for $1.85 and $1.90 and others asking straight $2.

They cost usually around $2.50 on the Steam market, but it's a good way to convert card money to games since $7.50 in card money is still way cheaper than the $13.xx they are asking for on Steam.

 
agentghost said:
I am sorry but i don't find this game interesting enough. I guess I played it back in my console day and compared to most console games, it was pretty.. run-of the mill and generic. I was also surprised to hear the PC crowd rave about Binary Domain. For me, it was another generic Gears of War clone with robot. there's nothing done there that Gears of War hasn't done bigger & better. After a while, I finally understand that not a lot of action games got ported to PC and the one got ported over was pretty crappy port. I guess beggars can't be chooser (not to say that us PC gamers are beggars but we don't have a lot to choose from compared to the console crowd i.e. Vanquish or the Gears of War series)
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Well, I don't own any modern console. My last console was a PS2. So all that stuff you consider "generic"... isn't to me. I've never even played Gears of War. I skipped the Xbox generation. I've skipped the 360 and PS3. I don't play a lot of modern games.

Not to mention, the PC port doesn't have the same loading issues that console versions have. Loading a stage takes 3 to 5 seconds. And the game scales pretty well, I was playing this in 1080p on my old bucket of a computer.

I don't remember if I had a point to this. Ah well.

 
MysterD said:
One is never done with Skyrim!

Don't worry - Skyrim will came you to come back, whether it be for new mods or to just get back into the game-world.
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this is the third time i've beat skyrim...this time i finished essentially every quest in the game, all the dlc, got all the achievements, and also played some quest mods (including some of the bigger ones, like falskaar and wyrmstooth). i probably won't be playing skyrim again for a pretty damn long time, haha. if i crave getting back into an elder scrolls world i'll play oblivion or morrowind again. oblivion i think is actually my favorite elder scrolls.

 
pasports31 said:
this is the third time i've beat skyrim...this time i finished essentially every quest in the game, all the dlc, got all the achievements, and also played some quest mods (including some of the bigger ones, like falskaar and wyrmstooth). i probably won't be playing skyrim again for a pretty damn long time, haha. if i crave getting back into an elder scrolls world i'll play oblivion or morrowind again. oblivion i think is actually my favorite elder scrolls.
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can someone enlighten me what's so appealing about the Elder Scroll Series? i tried hard to get into it but for some reason it just .. seem bland to me. I prefer game like Kingdom of Amalur or if I crave for story, then the old Baldur Gate would do or if I like adventure RPG then I guess Fallout 3, Fallout Vegas or Dishonored would fit my bill.

 
agentghost said:
can someone enlighten me what's so appealing about the Elder Scroll Series? i tried hard to get into it but for some reason it just .. seem bland to me. I prefer game like Kingdom of Amalur or if I crave for story, then the old Baldur Gate would do or if I like adventure RPG then I guess Fallout 3, Fallout Vegas or Dishonored would fit my bill.
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I think the appeal for most is "exploration." Gameplay really isn't good in any TES game; similarly, you don't play for the story (though, as a TES newbie myself, I've been enjoying the books that are scattered everywhere in Skyrim). Literary character development is weak, as is mechanical character development. The aesthetic isn't particularly good (without a dozen mods, anyway), and the graphics certainly don't match up to many other AAA releases concurrent with a TES release (without a dozen mods, anyway).

What TES seems to do above and beyond "similar" games is to give the player a giant world to explore that's (usually) full of stuff to do. That said, they could really learn a lesson from Dragon's Dogma for TESVI and work on improving character movement. Getting around your environment in Skyrim (at least, probably also in the rest of the series) is so damn awkward. Coming into Skyrim immediately after Dragon's Dogma, the thing I missed more than even the combat, bow mechanics, and the epic boss fights was the ability to fluidly clamber over just about every part of my environment.

Speaking of TES and mods, anybody know if there's a modding community out there for Arena or Daggerfall?
 
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agentghost said:
can someone enlighten me what's so appealing about the Elder Scroll Series? i tried hard to get into it but for some reason it just .. seem bland to me. I prefer game like Kingdom of Amalur or if I crave for story, then the old Baldur Gate would do or if I like adventure RPG then I guess Fallout 3, Fallout Vegas or Dishonored would fit my bill.
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if you like fallout 3 and new vegas i really dont see how you cant enjoy elder scrolls

playing in and exploring a fully fleshed out, deeply lore rich world is just satisfying. i can't exactly put my finger on what it is that makes the games so fun and addicting to me, but the one thing the games do really well is the exploration factor, so i assume that's it

i will dispute the point souffrir had about the graphics, though. both morrowind and oblivion were considered to be phenomenal when they released, and skyrim more than held its own in 2011

 
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Foxhack said:
Well, I don't own any modern console. My last console was a PS2. So all that stuff you consider "generic"... isn't to me. I've never even played Gears of War.
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If you can ever find a deal on a boxed PC copy of Gears of War, you should hop on it. It's a nice little over-the-shoulder action game. The PC version even has some exclusive singleplayer content.

I know Microsoft horded the rest of the franchise for the Xbox (because they're assholes), but I have no idea why they wouldn't re-release the original PC game on Steam. I'd think they'd do pretty well with it.

When they finally got around to publishing the PC version, the game was already well over a year old and they saddled multiplayer with GFWL -- always a disaster. They blamed the poor sales on pirates. :wall:

It's definitely a game that deserves a re-release on Steam.

 
hal said:
If you can ever find a deal on a boxed PC copy of Gears of War, you should hop on it. It's a nice little over-the-shoulder action game. The PC version even has some exclusive singleplayer content.

I know Microsoft horded the rest of the franchise for the Xbox (because they're assholes), but I have no idea why they wouldn't re-release the original PC game on Steam. I'd think they'd do pretty well with it.

When they finally got around to publishing the PC version, the game was already well over a year old and they saddled multiplayer with GFWL -- always a disaster. They blamed the poor sales on pirates. :wall:

It's definitely a game that deserves a re-release on Steam.
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Oh I bought the game a month ago! Got it for like three bucks. I just haven't tried it yet.

And please, if Microsoft ported the games to Steam they'd just make us buy them all over again instead of letting us activate the game with our serial codes. Bleh.

 
agentghost said:
can someone enlighten me what's so appealing about the Elder Scroll Series? i tried hard to get into it but for some reason it just .. seem bland to me. I prefer game like Kingdom of Amalur or if I crave for story, then the old Baldur Gate would do or if I like adventure RPG then I guess Fallout 3, Fallout Vegas or Dishonored would fit my bill.
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I like it because of the sheer amount of freedom you're given to do pretty much whatever you want and go wherever you want. It's just this huge world to explore and so much of it is packed with interesting, compelling things to find so it's easy to lose yourself in it. More so than a lot of RPGs The Elder Scrolls actually feels like I'm role playing another person in a totally foreign place, and I find that really interesting. Then there's the extremely addicting, free form leveling system that let's you create God knows how many different kinds of characters, the crazy deep lore that you can literally pick up and read for hours, all the random items you can find and experiment with...there's just so much to see and do, which is what I (and I feel most others) find so compelling about it. It doesn't have the same sort of direction and back to back set pieces you see in a lot of other AAA games now, so if you like more direction in your games it might not be the sort of game you enjoy, but otherwise it's hard for me to see how most people wouldn't enjoy it or at least be able to appreciate it for what it is.

/random thoughts
 
hal said:
If you can ever find a deal on a boxed PC copy of Gears of War, you should hop on it. It's a nice little over-the-shoulder action game. The PC version even has some exclusive singleplayer content.

I know Microsoft horded the rest of the franchise for the Xbox (because they're assholes), but I have no idea why they wouldn't re-release the original PC game on Steam. I'd think they'd do pretty well with it.

When they finally got around to publishing the PC version, the game was already well over a year old and they saddled multiplayer with GFWL -- always a disaster. They blamed the poor sales on pirates. :wall:

It's definitely a game that deserves a re-release on Steam.
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be warned that the original Gears of War play like 3rd person shooter Resident Evil (at least that the vibe i got when i first co-op it with my friend on release day). But it was a gem. Epic atmophere, satisfying gameplay, polished content and have character that I actually care about. it is a shame that the franchise is console exclusive

 
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Foxhack said:
And please, if Microsoft ported the games to Steam they'd just make us buy them all over again instead of letting us activate the game with our serial codes. Bleh.
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Yeah, you're probably right now that Epic Games sold out their rights to Microsoft. Otherwise, Epic's Unreal Tournament 3 was originally one of the very few games for which you could activate a retail copy on Steam.

Fun fact: all the bonus PC singleplayer stuff was developed by People Can Fly.

 
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I like it because of the sheer amount of freedom you're given to do pretty much whatever you want and go wherever you want.
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I agree.

I never even paid much attention to the story and what not with the Elder Scrolls games, I just played them however I wanted to, and I guess that's the main point. On one hand, the Elder Scrolls games can be a buggy, ridiculous mess, but on the other hand they give you probably as much of a chance to play for a really long time, without constantly repeating yourself, as any game is going to. It's one of a few games in which you really can just wander, and even after many hours of gameplay, still stumble across something you've never encountered. The appeal is the freedom and the non-linear nature of the gameplay.

For anyone that plays games just to beat them or what not, for achievements and the like, I can see how an Elder Scrolls game would seem unappealing. Elder Scrolls games are good for people that don't want to stop playing a game.
 
MrNinjaSquirrel said:
I like it because of the sheer amount of freedom you're given to do pretty much whatever you want and go wherever you want. It's just this huge world to explore and so much of it is packed with interesting, compelling things to find so it's easy to lose yourself in it. More so than a lot of RPGs The Elder Scrolls actually feels like I'm role playing another person in a totally foreign place, and I find that really interesting. Then there's the extremely addicting, free form leveling system that let's you create God knows how many different kinds of characters, the crazy deep lore that you can literally pick up and read for hours, all the random items you can find and experiment with...there's just so much to see and do, which is what I (and I feel most others) find so compelling about it. It doesn't have the same sort of direction and back to back set pieces you see in a lot of other AAA games now, so if you like more direction in your games it might not be the sort of game you enjoy, but otherwise it's hard for me to see how most people wouldn't enjoy it or at least be able to appreciate it for what it is.

/random thoughts
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The first thing I do in almost every game that lets you explore is immediately go in the opposite direction that it tries to herd you. I think the first time I played Morrowind (never finished it) I followed the coastline around the continent. I also think I tried to cross some mountains and ended up being eaten by some dark elf thing. I need to find my discs.

 
so there's no end game in the Elder Scroll?  

no goal? no story driven plot to push the game forward?  so what do u do in there? just wander aimlessly hours after hours? 

 
cyrus386 said:
Krugozor has the Bionic Commando pack for two bucks and I'm tempted to pick it up. But there's enough very cheap games on that Capcom list that I'm kinda wondering if a bundle might be in the works.
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Waggles said:
Do it anyway, the games are fun.
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Foxhack said:
+1

Rearmed is more fun but a lot tougher than the other game. I still can't clear it.
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Foxhack said:
Oh there's a LOT more than that.

(Yes, I wrote that. :p)

On another note, when I got to that boss my mind was blown. It was one of the most amazing boss fights I'd ever experienced... up until the game crashed when I killed the bastard and had to do it again. All the wonder at that level just... left. :(
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You guys are just lining me up to be the sacrificial lamb so we get a Capcom HB. I'm not falling for it! I summon the dark powers of Mooby!

 
agentghost said:
so there's no end game in the Elder Scroll?

no goal? no story driven plot to push the game forward? so what do u do in there? just wander aimlessly hours after hours?
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There's a main quest, but that's really one of the least interesting parts of the game. There are really dozens and dozens of unique story quests that you can complete, most of which are a lot more compelling than the "main" one. Like I said, it's basically an entire world, and there are as many stories within it as that would lead you to expect (though I find the stories you create yourself are often the most memorable).
 
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/333047-done-huge-lowball/

Etrian Odyssey IV (First Print Edition) - B - $18 - Blade

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - B - $16 - Blade

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 - A - $11 - Blade
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I wanted SMT Soul Hackers at $22, but was outbid at the last second. :(

And no way. The last game I bought at retail MSRP was Tales of Symphonia for the Gamecube because it came with Legend of Zelda as a preorder bonus. The rest of my money goes to molly, bitches, and mags for my gat.

 
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Blade said:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/333047-done-huge-lowball/


[background=#23252b]I wanted SMT Soul Hackers at $22, but was outbid at the last second. :([/background]

[background=#23252b]And no way. The last game I bought at retail MSRP was Tales of Symphonia for the Gamecube because it came with Legend of Zelda as a preorder bonus. The rest of my money goes to molly, bitches, and mags for my gat.[/background]
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Unless I'm mistaken, one of those is a DS game.

And the total comes to $45. (Or $67 if you were preemptively including Soul Hackers.)
 
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Soul Hackers was $10 at Amazon last Black Friday, and yes, it was the first-print edition, so you can feel even worse about that. :p Great choice on Etrian Odyssey 4 though, one of the best 3ds games IMO.

I need to keep an eye on that lowball forum though, some people got really good deals in that one.
 
DPsycho said:
The first week I played Skyrim, I spent most of those hours reading all of the books I could find in-game.
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nerd

agentghost said:
so there's no end game in the Elder Scroll?

no goal? no story driven plot to push the game forward? so what do u do in there? just wander aimlessly hours after hours?
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like i said, if you liked fo3/nv, you should like elder scrolls. its the exact same idea just in a fantasy setting with (imho) more interesting lore. there's a definite plot, goal, etc, but the plot has never been the strength of the elder scrolls games...it's all fairly generic "save the world" stuff which serves mainly as a construct to explore the world. the games are fun because you're plopped into such a fully developed world with so many things to do that it's just really immersive and easy to get lost in...if you're somebody that requires a linearly constructed narrative then elder scrolls isn't for you.

 
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pasports31 said:
nerd

like i said, if you liked fo3/nv, you should like elder scrolls. its the exact same idea just in a fantasy setting with (imho) more interesting lore. there's a definite plot, goal, etc, but the plot has never been the strength of the elder scrolls games...it's all fairly generic "save the world" stuff which serves mainly as a construct to explore the world. the games are fun because you're plopped into such a fully developed world with so many things to do that it's just really immersive and easy to get lost in...if you're somebody that requires a linearly constructed narrative then elder scrolls isn't for you.
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It's actually the setting that keeps me from enjoying the Elder Scrolls stuff as much as I should. I absolutely love open world freedom, but I just hate any sort of fantasy elf orc goblin dragon settings. That's why I waste hours running around in Sleeping Dogs or GTA, but I just can't get into Skyrim. I keep trying though.

 
Regarding Skyrim,

One of the funnest ways I have experienced Skyrim is via having Steam chat open while someone is actively playing Skyrim. You get lots of "omg, X just happened!" or "holy crap, I just did Y" or "did you guys know about Z?"

And everyone else in chat is chuckling as we think back fondly on our memories of doin the same thing.

Granted Fedex quests are common from city-based folks, but there are also lots of things you just happen to stumble upon while roaming around. My only beef with this system is that when you first enter many areas, it uses your level at that time to determine treasure/enemies. So if you only do a quick look into a cave, leave, and come back many levels later, it will be trivial. I'd prefer a setup where a greater portion of the world is level static, and a smaller portion, maybe even just the primary quest, is level adaptive.

 
Skyrimz is vast but shallow.  Not a bad action RPG but nowhere near the OMGHOLYPOOPDISGAMEGUIZITGAVEMEORGASM people make it out to be.  Mods help a lot the wonky stuff but it still doesn't really do much for the content.  I never finished the main questline because it was pretty boring.

 
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My only beef with this system is that when you first enter many areas, it uses your level at that time to determine treasure/enemies. So if you only do a quick look into a cave, leave, and come back many levels later, it will be trivial. I'd prefer a setup where a greater portion of the world is level static, and a smaller portion, maybe even just the primary quest, is level adaptive.
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This is one of the reasons so many people still think Morrowind is the best Elder Scrolls game. Morrowind let you do what you wanted, when you wanted (if you could pull it off). So you could steal some awesome gear, and go attack some powerful entities (including breaking the main quest storyline) whenever you wanted. It wasn't going to give you some weak reward because of the point in time you did it, or permanently weaken enemies in a given area. It required playing with some discipline if you really wanted to enjoy it, but I hated the leveled stuff when they introduced it in Oblivion. I do get the limited function of it, but in Morrowind I found myself wanting to do everything, more often in Skyrim and Oblivion I found myself trying to find ways to postpone things and that's just not as fun.
 
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I've played TES Arena, Daggerfall and Oblivion (I think maybe battlespire too), and never could get much into them. Don't know why, because I had a fun time while playing.

On the other hand, I'm a Fallout addict, I spent 30hs straight (with no other game in the middle) on New Vegas before I had to force myself into taking a break (30hs, for me and my gametime, is a lot). Also spent a LOT more on FO3 (retail, at launch), but just because I had less responsibilities back then, because NV has better plots and dialogs.
 
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Cheaplikeafox OS X said:
It's actually the setting that keeps me from enjoying the Elder Scrolls stuff as much as I should. I absolutely love open world freedom, but I just hate any sort of fantasy elf orc goblin dragon settings. That's why I waste hours running around in Sleeping Dogs or GTA, but I just can't get into Skyrim. I keep trying though.
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That's funny, I feel the exact same way with some games, not Skyrim mind you. Ironically, the GTA games really don't click for me. Maybe it's the grounded in reality narrative/setting, I don't know.
 
I have played a crapload of Saints Row 2, because I enjoyed the story, but also just driving/flying around was a lot of fun. The city felt more alive to me than SR3 and some of the activities I would come across were pretty fun.

 
I enjoy Pinball FX2 because they give you a variety of vast pinball tables to explore. i still can't figure out the plot, but it's really fun anyway

 
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