The New, But Not Improved Firmware Thread: 4.00 Currently Available

[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']I'm not downloading this POS until I know it's gonna go through 100% and not fuck my system up though. Hopefully GeoHot n crew already have a workaround in the works.[/QUOTE]so am I correctly inferring that you partook in the hacking? I can't imagine why. I seems like it would be more trouble to keep up to date with the pirate firmware than it is keeping up with the official firmware. and without the pirate games I'm not really sure why? the homebrew doesn't sound as lively as the DS/PSP, and it's a lot of effort for some emu action.
 
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They need to start pushing features that are important, not just security patches that are easily bypassed. Make the hackers want to give up their custom firmware.
 
[quote name='nakanenui']Have to update just to stream netflix, thats shit.[/QUOTE]

Hey there's always the 360 where you have to pay a monthly fee for Gold on top of your monthly fee for Netflix.;)

Now that 3.56 is further dissected it would seem to be quite well done on Sony's end:

The random number 'epic fail' is now fixed and while the public (decryption) keys were found within hours the private (encryption) keys supposedly can't be found using the old method. (because the random number is now properly random)

As far as online goes; changing your DNS settings will get anyone on 3.55 spoofed and working fine on PSN as if they were on 3.56. (so the cheating ain't going away until Sony closes that hole...which keeps getting re-opened btw)

One thing of note is that 3.56 added the ability to run remotely executed code which means that Sony can change how and what this does at any time thus giving them the ability to detect and ban just about anything touching PSN.
 
[quote name='Fell Open Ian']Hey there's always the 360 where you have to pay a monthly fee for Gold on top of your monthly fee for Netflix.;)

Now that 3.56 is further dissected it would seem to be quite well done on Sony's end:

The random number 'epic fail' is now fixed and while the public (decryption) keys were found within hours the private (encryption) keys supposedly can't be found using the old method. (because the random number is now properly random)

As far as online goes; changing your DNS settings will get anyone on 3.55 spoofed and working fine on PSN as if they were on 3.56. (so the cheating ain't going away until Sony closes that hole...which keeps getting re-opened btw)

One thing of note is that 3.56 added the ability to run remotely executed code which means that Sony can change how and what this does at any time thus giving them the ability to detect and ban just about anything touching PSN.[/QUOTE]happy thoughts?
 
[quote name='Wolfkin']happy thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I was thinking autoerotic asphyxiation using an ethernet cable with a dual-shock in one hand and my dick in the other.

fuck wireless!
 
So.. my wireless randomly stopped working on my PS3 some time between the last update and this one - i honestly think the last time I turned it on was for the LAST update...

It couldn't connect to my WPA2 network using AES anymore :whistle2:/. A change on my router made it work OK, but i'm pretty sure I had it working beforehand. Anyone else have that problem?
 
[quote name='Wolfkin']so am I correctly inferring that you partook in the hacking? I can't imagine why. I seems like it would be more trouble to keep up to date with the pirate firmware than it is keeping up with the official firmware. and without the pirate games I'm not really sure why? the homebrew doesn't sound as lively as the DS/PSP, and it's a lot of effort for some emu action.[/QUOTE]
No. Unless I get a secondary PS3 I wouldn't attempt it. Even then, I would still keep physical versions of each title I would be running off my HDD, as I'd still prefer to have the physical versions in the event something happened.

So as you can see not all people are 'zomg pirates and thieves'.:booty:
 
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Shouldn't that say MS? xD


I don't get why people bitch over a update. Last one before this was almost a month and 20 days ago or at least around that. Geez You guys act like its every day. =P

You never hear people with a decent internet speed bitch about the update. Only people like Cheapest with his amazing 756k. Just upgrade your internet or leave your ps3 on straight when you think there is going to be a update. I noticed I was online playing and it doesn't kick you off or anything. If Cheapest really used his ps3 that much he would have been online before the update hit =P
 
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Shouldn't that say Capcom and the bottom Rival Schools fans?
 
I don't see why there's complaining as usual. I'm happy to update my PS3 in order to improve security cutting down on hacking or whatnot. Plus, downloading firmware is never an issue because it takes me no more than 3 minutes to download, and about 3-4 minutes to install. The last 360 update actually look me longer than every PS3 update.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I don't see why there's complaining as usual. I'm happy to update my PS3 in order to improve security cutting down on hacking or whatnot. Plus, downloading firmware is never an issue because it takes me no more than 3 minutes to download, and about 3-4 minutes to install. The last 360 update actually look me longer than every PS3 update.[/QUOTE]

That's true last time I downloaded that main 360 update it didn't want to download it and had weird issues. Then after that it was rather slow.
 
[quote name='jman619']It should say SNK and be referring to there online. :lol::whistle2:#[/QUOTE]

I dunno. At least SNK's gameplay works when it's near and it's true frame for frame. Capcom just has horrible input delay which ruins proper combos even if the gameplay appears smooth. On top of that they have people clammoring for a new Darkstalkers, Jojo, Power Stone and they're like LOL MOAR SHOTOS.
 
[quote name='Paco']I dunno. At least SNK's gameplay works when it's near and it's true frame for frame. Capcom just has horrible input delay which ruins proper combos even if the gameplay appears smooth. On top of that they have people clammoring for a new Darkstalkers, Jojo, Power Stone and they're like LOL MOAR SHOTOS.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't mind a newer power stone. :lol:

MVC3 FTW! ;)
 
[quote name='jman619']I wouldn't mind a newer power stone. :lol:

MVC3 FTW! ;)[/QUOTE]

LOL MAHVAL.

Say no to broken scrubby scrub scruba gaymes. Support another POWA STONE GWAR!
 
[quote name='Paco']LOL MAHVAL.

Say no to broken scrubby scrub scruba gaymes. Support another POWA STONE GWAR![/QUOTE]

I knew you wouldn't like my reply. Capcom hater. :lol:
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I don't see why there's complaining as usual. I'm happy to update my PS3 in order to improve security cutting down on hacking or whatnot. Plus, downloading firmware is never an issue because it takes me no more than 3 minutes to download, and about 3-4 minutes to install. The last 360 update actually look me longer than every PS3 update.[/QUOTE]
Because some of us would still rather just play games and not have to worry about Sony's insecurity as it strips out functions and/or bricks people's consoles because they don't fully test these infirmware updates before releasing them?

As for the small amount of time it takes YOU to download, that's not true for all, especially for those of us on 'Brazilian internet'.:razz:

I'd much rather be playing my games for those 30-40 minutes it'll take my system to download this crapware.
 
Hardly use my PS3 on day to day basis. Though, this update was mildly annoying because it would keep failing for some reason.

All I wanted was to try the Bulletstorm demo, which ended up being horrendous.
 
I found something else that i'm pretty sure wasn't there before the update. when you go to youtube xl from the homepage of the browser it takes you to the playstation channel.
 
I just updated from 2.76 to 3.50, had to do it so black ops would work. Good bye Linux that i will never use anyway, but should still be available.
 
I have a rare picture of Cheapest Gamer when he was told to update his internet. Let us watch.

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[quote name='Paco']I have a rare picture of Cheapest Gamer when he was told to update his internet. Let us watch.

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:shock: For a second there I thought that was Obama. I guess that's supposed to be a look alike though, huh? :lol:
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Because some of us would still rather just play games and not have to worry about Sony's insecurity as it strips out functions and/or bricks people's consoles because they don't fully test these infirmware updates before releasing them?

As for the small amount of time it takes YOU to download, that's not true for all, especially for those of us on 'Brazilian internet'.:razz:

I'd much rather be playing my games for those 30-40 minutes it'll take my system to download this crapware.[/QUOTE]

If you really wanted or needed to play games that much. Wouldn't you already be online on ps3 when the download hit?...........:cool:
 
[quote name='jman619']If you really wanted or needed to play games that much. Wouldn't you already be online on ps3 when the download hit?...........:cool:[/QUOTE]
No. I typically get on to play games around 10-11pm EST or so. When I get on and see some silly update waiting for me I sometimes either just play offline or shut the PS3 right back off.

It's so annoying that they always release it at 8-10pm EST, but I guess it goes by what time it is in Japan where Sony is based.:roll:
 
I don't really mind the update without any new features but this better be a 100 gig download. My internet connection is super fast but this is taking forever. Fix PSN download speeds Sony.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']Took about...3 minutes to download and install the update.[/QUOTE]

Again, I can understand differences in speeds for it to download depending on when you performed the download, your geographic location, and your internet speed. However, I can't see how it could download AND install in less than 3 minutes on your machine when it took more than 6 minutes just for the installation portion on my PS3. Do you have a newer slim? Mine is an original fat 60Gb with a 320Gb hard drive installed.
 
[quote name='Jasonofindy']Again, I can understand differences in speeds for it to download depending on when you performed the download, your geographic location, and your internet speed. However, I can't see how it could download AND install in less than 3 minutes on your machine when it took more than 6 minutes just for the installation portion on my PS3. Do you have a newer slim? Mine is an original fat 60Gb with a 320Gb hard drive installed.[/QUOTE]


if you treat your ps3 better itll treat you better lol. seriously though theres a number of diff reasons why it may be quicker for others try not to let it bug you.

i support the updated and firmware downloads if it keeps my ps3 safe then do what you gotta do sony. people need to be honest most hackers looking to hack into the ps3 arent doing so for good reasons. complain all you want now and then if something should happen and someone is able to hack into your ps3 accounts then youd all be whining about why sony didnt do more to stop it.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I don't see why there's complaining as usual.[/QUOTE]

Well there are two things which are of particular concern regarding 3.56:

1) Writing to lv0/1/2 is very dangerous and puts every single user who updates at greater risk of bricking their PS3.

2) The remote code execution basically amounts to having a rootkit/backdoor present on your PS3. As long as your PS3 can access the internet in any capacity, Sony can can remotely run code of any kind which can do anything they want completely without your consent/knowledge. Furthermore, applicable and specific language regarding the remote code execution does not seem to be present in the new user agreement. (Remember how Sony got the shit sued out of them for the whole 'rootkit' mess before? Well they've, arguably, just done it again.)

I have a problem with Sony adding in a backdoor to a system where the signing keys are widely available. Someone savvy enough could spoof PSN and do all manner of things to PS3s via that backdoor with remotely executed code.

When we are talking about a company whose keys were had by a massive mistake like not having their random number generator actually generate random numbers and you couple that with how absolutely simple it is to spoof your firmware version using the built-in settings in every single PS3 unit and we toss in a dash of their general history with rootkits...it all gets very risky very quickly.
 
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[quote name='lokizz']if you treat your ps3 better itll treat you better lol. seriously though theres a number of diff reasons why it may be quicker for others try not to let it bug you.

i support the updated and firmware downloads if it keeps my ps3 safe then do what you gotta do sony. people need to be honest most hackers looking to hack into the ps3 arent doing so for good reasons. complain all you want now and then if something should happen and someone is able to hack into your ps3 accounts then youd all be whining about why sony didnt do more to stop it.[/QUOTE]
Actually if I were to 'omg be a hacker on my PS3' I would only be doing so to load my games off of a HDD rather than using the Blu-Ray drive and risking that dying on me. It'd be cheaper to replace an external HDD than to replace the BR drive, unless the price to buy a replacement lens has dropped significantly since I first looked into it for the fat model systems.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Actually if I were to 'omg be a hacker on my PS3' I would only be doing so to load my games off of a HDD rather than using the Blu-Ray drive and risking that dying on me. It'd be cheaper to replace an external HDD than to replace the BR drive, unless the price to buy a replacement lens has dropped significantly since I first looked into it for the fat model systems.[/QUOTE]

eBay is turning up a lot of
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I don't see why there's complaining as usual. I'm happy to update my PS3 in order to improve security cutting down on hacking or whatnot. Plus, downloading firmware is never an issue because it takes me no more than 3 minutes to download, and about 3-4 minutes to install. The last 360 update actually look me longer than every PS3 update.[/QUOTE]about the same time for me.

[quote name='daripa']I found something else that i'm pretty sure wasn't there before the update. when you go to youtube xl from the homepage of the browser it takes you to the playstation channel.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure that was there. i remember clicking the YouTube button fromthe homepage once and ending up at the PS channel. .that's how I learned there was a PS channel.

[quote name='jman619']If you really wanted or needed to play games that much. Wouldn't you already be online on ps3 when the download hit?...........:cool:[/QUOTE]That would be the worst. I update before I go to bed. But the people who play all the time. That would suck to quit one game and then be forced to update before you could play another game online. Just imagine someone playing Burnout Paradise and then getting a party invite to Red Faction.. they switch discs.. and suddenly they get booted off PSN and have to update. ouch.

[quote name='200STM']I like Sony.[/QUOTE]whoa. whoa. whoa. Calm down. We don't take kindly to your kind round here.
 
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[quote name='Wolfkin']well Cheapest i would never call you a pirate without knowing first but it just seems like you were a little personally invested in this 'workaround' possibility[/QUOTE]
Nah. I just find it funny that so many are soooooo offended by people finding a way to hack the PS3 and that they want their console to be limited to what Sony only intended for it to do, which at this point seems to be less and less depending on whether or not the function is exploitable to hackers.:cry:
 
Happy happy, joy joy. I just received the 80010514 error several times after trying the copy of Black Ops I got from GS.com for 50% off(which was marked defective, btw).

According to THIS site it's not a hardware issue(thankfully), but rather could be due to a faulty sector on the internal HDD and/or a faulty installation of firmware/software.

Hmmmm....now who do I know that releases buggy firmware? Oh yeah. Sony. :roll:

I'm just glad that they say it's a firmware/HDD issue and NOT a hardware issue cuz if it were a hardware issue so soon after downloading/installing Sony's shitware I'd have had to book a flight to Japan n go shove this PS3 up (insert name of Sony's CEO)'s ass.
 
Sony updates are good for me they take about 5 minutes of updating and 4 minutes of install. I am wondering about something, have any of you guys done that send report thing after having the console freeze or shut off randomly. I have never really got a email them telling me what happen or what may have caused it I am just curious if Sony actually has someone check those or if you can get emails from the company on a status report. I think it would be neat if they can give u a yearly report that tells u how much times ur console turned off unexpected and how many hrs uve been online.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Happy happy, joy joy. I just received the 80010514 error several times after trying the copy of Black Ops I got from GS.com for 50% off(which was marked defective, btw).

According to THIS site it's not a hardware issue(thankfully), but rather could be due to a faulty sector on the internal HDD and/or a faulty installation of firmware/software.

Hmmmm....now who do I know that releases buggy firmware? Oh yeah. Sony. :roll:

I'm just glad that they say it's a firmware/HDD issue and NOT a hardware issue cuz if it were a hardware issue so soon after downloading/installing Sony's shitware I'd have had to book a flight to Japan n go shove this PS3 up (insert name of Sony's CEO)'s ass.[/QUOTE]

Like anyone here believes you'd spend money on a flight. You'd probably put yourself in a box with some crackers and tap water and ship yourself to japan instead.
 
[quote name='200STM']Sony updates are good for me they take about 5 minutes of updating and 4 minutes of install. I am wondering about something, have any of you guys done that send report thing after having the console freeze or shut off randomly. I have never really got a email them telling me what happen or what may have caused it I am just curious if Sony actually has someone check those or if you can get emails from the company on a status report. I think it would be neat if they can give u a yearly report that tells u how much times ur console turned off unexpected and how many hrs uve been online.[/QUOTE]I crash from time to time but I've only gotten the report thing once or twice.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']Like anyone here believes you'd spend money on a flight. You'd probably put yourself in a box with some crackers and tap water and ship yourself to japan instead.[/QUOTE]

I rarely laugh. This made me laugh. :applause:
 
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