The Steam Deal Thread V7 - The soda wars have ended, but the deals rage on.

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Welcome to the Steam Deal Thread V7! You can find link to past threads at the bottom of this post. Read post #2 of this thread for Steam FAQs and more.

Since the V6 thread, we've decided to leave regular minor sales out of the OP. This post will keep track of major sales (Summer sale, etc.), Steam deals available through other sellers (like Amazon), Preorder deals, and Group Buys.

I would still greatly appreciate help from you folks at home in keeping this smaller-scale OP up-to-date. This is a Wiki post so anyone can contribute. Wiki instructions:
Thanks for your help! If you notice a sale has ended, feel free to delete its line from the sale list. Of course, if you see something does need to be added, then kindly add it to the list.

Make sure your changes match the thread's format! For example, every game that's on sale is part of an unordered list. When adding a game to the list, copy an existing line and update the link, title, and prices. That way, the format stays correct. Do not list percentages off! We list the original price and the sale price here. If you have any suggestions for major changes to the post/thread, PM me (EastX) about them.

Steam Sales - Updated 5/20


CAG Threads Featuring Steam Games on Sale Elsewhere - Updated 1/9


Preorder Deals - Updated 1/10
Group Buy Deals - Updated 1/9/13
Several multiplayer Steam games are available in 2-packs or 4-packs. These packs offer a discount over buying multiple copies of a game separately. We also maintain group buy trade threads for several games, so please use those threads if you're interested in setting up a group buy.


Free Stuff - List needs updating with F2P games!
There are several free games and mods on Steam. These are a few choice ones; you can find a full list here. Note that free games are not permanently attached to your Steam account like actual purchases would be. You'll need to manually download a game again from the website if you uninstall it.


Steam around CAG

If you are interested in joining the Steam CAG Community or participating in a trade or group buy with fellow Cheap Ass Gamers, please do so in the dedicated threads and not in the deal discussion thread. In the dedicated threads you will find CAGers with the same specialized interest who will be much quicker (and happier) to respond than in the Deals thread.

Past Special Sales

Visit www.steamgamesales.com to check previous sale prices on Steam games. We do keep track of some older sales here though:

Steam Retail Key List

What is a CD key and where can I find it?

Steam's explanation and list of Steam-activatable keys

The CD Key is a serial number with a combination of 13, 18, or 25 letters and numbers - it can be found on a sticker inside your game's case or printed on the game's quick reference card. The CD Key acts as your proof of purchase for the game - Steam Support may ask for it if you need to establish your ownership of an account. It is recommended that you keep your CD Key in a safe place to ensure the security of your account.

Other Keys that can be redeemed on Steam (CAG tested & verified)
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  • The Ball (bought @D2D, tested by voken)
  • Supreme Commander Forged Alliance (gives both FA and original, bought @amazon, tested by vism)

Indie Bundles thread on Steam forums (link)

Past CAG Steam Deal Threads
 
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[quote name='Eldredpe']Also keep in mind a lot of those games have been in bundles, so you can probably find many of them being sold in the Steam Group Buy/Trade thread for cheaper than you would get them even during a sale.[/QUOTE]

Yup! Although really, with indie developers like this I should probably be giving them money directly...
 
[quote name='annihilator']Yup! Although really, with indie developers like this I should probably be giving them money directly...[/QUOTE]


Well, keep in mind that most of the bundle sites do give money directly to the devs and some even give you the power to set your own price/percentage that goes to the devs.
 
[quote name='Terlan']Any reason to even consider the game of throne games? I heard they were both kinda bad.[/QUOTE]

The Genesis one is beyond bad and looks like something from the 1990s which might be okay if it was done well and was fun but it isn't. Blatant cash grab using a famous name.

It also has shitty Tages DRM with a 5 machine activation limit on it in spite of the fact that it is also a Steamworks game and uses Steam as DRM no matter where you buy it from.

The other one at least looks a little better visually, though that's not hard to do. I've heard mixed things about it though. I also heard conflicting info with regard to whether or not the Steam version has Act Control limited activation DRM. The Focus rep told Tony a while back that even the Steam version still has that DRM but then a Focus rep posted on the community forum that it doesn't. I have no idea which one is right but I know Focus tends to love crappy activation limit DRM.

Anyway, I passed on the RPG. Fool me once...
 
[quote name='Motoki']The Genesis one is beyond bad and looks like something from the 1990s which might be okay if it was done well and was fun but it isn't. Blatant cash grab using a famous name.
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If I remember correctly, GoT: Genesis didn't even start out as a GoT game. That was shoehorned in late in development. So it's pretty much the MOST blatant cash grab.
 
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For digging up old stuff I tend to do directed google searching, e.g.:
MysterD "Sacred 2" site:cheapassgamer.com
will surprise, only search cheapass gamer. You can restrict searches further with the inurl: and intitle: commands.[/quote]
Why would anyone ever search for me? :p

Interesting. Their earlier comments about the extent of their sever-side processing seemed suspicious for anything short of an MMO (considering Diablo 3 as MMO).

Also it's really interesting to hear they're using Amazon E2C, very sensible move, but then why can't they scale on demand (poor software architecture I assume).
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You remember when Amazon MP3 download service had Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" album download for 99 cents, right?
Yeah - I'm sure that's the kind of popularity people had w/ SimCity - there's just so many trying to get what they want, the servers just can't handle it, no matter what. PERIOD.
Same thing happened w/ Diablo 3.

Again - plenty of reason here for a company to NOT force the always online requirement. I'm sure many gamers just want to play their game ALONE & OFFLINE, if you give them the option to do so. I'm sure some gamers don't give 2 damns about playing w/ others; Achievements; Facebook and Origin integration; and any of that stuff.

I understand piracy sucks and that piracy stuff really hurts dev's and pub's - so they might THINK it is a logical reason to do force the "Always online" thing; but, when connections ain't good enough (and probably never will be, for that matter) and you're only hurting paying customers, you could turn those into pirates and/or boycotters of your products, too. That'd be even more lost $ for EA.
I tend to shutter at the thought of something like some OnLive w/ Cloud gaming succeeding. I hope it never succeeds.
 
[quote name='Flowette']Amusing that we get this on the day that they elect a new Pope.[/QUOTE]

Well, and don't forget - GoT HBO series is back on TV in a few weeks, too... ;)
 
[quote name='louiedog']Today's deal is the Game of Thrones Bundle at 75% off ($17.50)

Both Game of Thrones and GoT Genesis are $9.99 each.
The Beyond the Wall DLC is the only pack on sale and it's $1.25[/QUOTE]

Acoording to Enhanced Steam, the DRM is Tages, is that good? :lol:
 
[quote name='MysterD']Why would anyone ever search for me? :p
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There are certain people that just tend to be 'in the know' (and wordy ;)) about certain genres. So when I think of racers I think of Ashes and when I think of ARPGs I tend to think of you. :p

[quote name='MysterD']
I tend to shutter at the thought of something like some OnLive w/ Cloud gaming succeeding. I hope it never succeeds.[/QUOTE]


I know I am in the minority but I like Cloud gaming in some ways. It's convenient. I can transfer my game between my Android tablet or phone or PC. It also eliminates a lot of worrying about whether a person's hardware can run X game well etc. It's easier for developers too since they don't have to make multiple versions of a game. In recent years, limitations of console hardware that most big titles are designed around has hindered PC gaming a bit IMO, but you don't need to worry about that with cloud gaming. Also you don't need to worry about if Windows 7 or 8 or 9 or whatever will run some old game if you're playing it cloud based. Sony is actually said to be going the cloud route (Gaikai) for the old games on the PS4 since the hardware is not backward compatible.

Having said all that, there's absolutely no question that connection speeds and latency need to get consistently better across the board and bandwith caps need to go away or drastically be increased before cloud gaming can be viable for everyone.

There will undoubtedly be a lot of resistance at first but there was with Steam and there was with Netflix and pretty much anything new is going to get that sort of resistance at first. I do think that if ISPs can provide solid, fast, consistent connections and if the cloud gaming service provider can provide a good experience with little to no downtimes or waiting then people will eventually come around. At the moment those are big ifs though.
 
[quote name='soulkyo']Acoording to Enhanced Steam, the DRM is Tages, is that good? :lol:[/QUOTE]

They should disable any of that extra DRM crap in Steam-versions.
Steam DRM is sufficient enough.
 
[quote name='soulkyo']Acoording to Enhanced Steam, the DRM is Tages, is that good? :lol:[/QUOTE]

The Game of Thrones: Genesis game has a 5 activation limit. After you've installed it on 5 PCs, I don't think you'll ever be able to play it again.

There have been a few people in this forum who have reached the upper limit of these installs and wrote about it. Basically, Steam cannot remove the game from your account (so it cannot be re-purchased) and it can be downloaded by Steam but once you try to play it (and thus, "activate" it) the activation fails and it locks you out.

So typically, games with these types of DRM have a red banner for a reason. ;)
 
[quote name='Motoki']There are certain people that just tend to be 'in the know' (and wordy ;)) about certain genres. So when I think of racers I think of Ashes and when I think of ARPGs I tend to think of you. :p[/quote]
Thanks for the compliments. :D

I know I am in the minority but I like Cloud gaming in some ways. It's convenient. I can transfer my game between my Android tablet or phone or PC. It also eliminates a lot of worrying about whether a person's hardware can run X game well etc. It's easier for developers too since they don't have to make multiple versions of a game. In recent years, limitations of console hardware that most big titles are designed around has hindered PC gaming a bit IMO, but you don't need to worry about that with cloud gaming. Also you don't need to worry about if Windows 7 or 8 or 9 or whatever will run some old game if you're playing it cloud based. Sony is actually said to be going the cloud route (Gaikai) for the old games on the PS4 since the hardware is not backward compatible.
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Maybe I should clarify what I meant: I was referring to Cloud Gaming as a requirement, not an option.
As an extra option - Cloud Gaming actually would be cool. All you things you mention - that could be great stuff to make PC gaming easier for some people.
As a requirement period - I have no interest in Cloud Gaming. I want the option to run my games directly from my hard drive, if the option is there; especially for SP games that can be run offline.

Having said all that, there's absolutely no question that connection speeds and latency need to get consistently better across the board and bandwith caps need to go away or drastically be increased before cloud gaming can be viable for everyone.
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Agreed...
...though I don't want Cloud Gaming as a requirement for games.

There will undoubtedly be a lot of resistance at first but there was with Steam and there was with Netflix and pretty much anything new is going to get that sort of resistance at first. I do think that if ISPs can provide solid, fast, consistent connections and if the cloud gaming service provider can provide a good experience with little to no downtimes or waiting then people will eventually come around. At the moment those are big ifs though.
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Oh, Steam's a HELL of lot better than it was, when it first came out. That's for damn sure.

My problem was not when NetFlix began (since it was easy to get new movies); but I left them after it started getting popular and it got tougher to get new flicks week of release.
 
[quote name='jshackles']The Game of Thrones: Genesis game has a 5 activation limit. After you've installed it on 5 PCs, I don't think you'll ever be able to play it again.

There have been a few people in this forum who have reached the upper limit of these installs and wrote about it. Basically, Steam cannot remove the game from your account (so it cannot be re-purchased) and it can be downloaded by Steam but once you try to play it (and thus, "activate" it) the activation fails and it locks you out.

So typically, games with these types of DRM have a red banner for a reason. ;)[/QUOTE]

I think it's funny Steam allows games like that to be sold freely. You would think they would either flex their power and force devs to remove or increase activation limits or build into their system a revocation system. Obviously, Steam is motivated by nothing but money, but with all the restrictions they put on games old in their stores it'd be nice if they used some of that power to do something useful every now and then.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']I think it's funny Steam allows games like that to be sold freely. You would think they would either flex their power and force devs to remove or increase activation limits or build into their system a revocation system. Obviously, Steam is motivated by nothing but money, but with all the restrictions they put on games old in their stores it'd be nice if they used some of that power to do something useful every now and then.[/QUOTE]

I agree completely - this is a terrible form of DRM and I wish that developers would just knock it off already. Like MysterD said, Steam DRM is plenty by itself. The problem is that the developers release on platforms other than Steam, and most are not willing to make a build of the game specifically for Steam that has their own DRM removed.

The worst is that Valve can't remove a game from your account after you've reached the activation limit. Of course we all know that Steam support is worthless in general. Amazon has a great policy for things like this: if you run out of activations, contact support and they'll issue you a new key. Problem is, you can't register that key with Steam if the game is still tied to your account.

Sure would be nice if Steam cared. At best, it sure would be nice if they could remove that game from your account.
 
[quote name='jshackles']I agree completely - this is a terrible form of DRM and I wish that developers would just knock it off already. Like MysterD said, Steam DRM is plenty by itself. The problem is that the developers release on platforms other than Steam, and most are not willing to make a build of the game specifically for Steam that has their own DRM removed.

The worst is that Valve can't remove a game from your account after you've reached the activation limit. Of course we all know that Steam support is worthless in general. Amazon has a great policy for things like this: if you run out of activations, contact support and they'll issue you a new key. Problem is, you can't register that key with Steam if the game is still tied to your account.

Sure would be nice if Steam cared. At best, it sure would be nice if they could remove that game from your account.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree. AT LEAST they could remove that game from your account so you can, worst case scenario, buy it again. :hot:
 
[quote name='soulkyo']Yeah, I agree. AT LEAST they could remove that game from your account so you can, worst case scenario, buy it again. :hot:[/QUOTE]

Or give you an option to add multiple game-keys to your account for the SAME game...
 
[quote name='jshackles']Basically, Steam cannot remove the game from your account[/QUOTE]
Wha? I've heard multiple accounts of people getting Steam to remove games from their account no problem (albeit slowly, since it's Steam support).

Hell, just a few weeks ago spoder asked them to remove a Sleeping Dogs DLC and they did. Rather quickly too, iirc.
 
[quote name='Idiotekque']Wha? I've heard multiple accounts of people getting Steam to remove games from their account no problem (albeit slowly, since it's Steam support).

Hell, just a few weeks ago spoder asked them to remove a Sleeping Dogs DLC and they did. Rather quickly too, iirc.[/QUOTE]

In Valve Time, how long does it normally take for Steam Support to reply....? ;)
 
[quote name='MysterD']In Valve Time, how long does it normally take for Steam Support to reply....? ;)[/QUOTE]
Seems to always take a few weeks, but waiting a month to get a game removed isn't really that big of a deal. I'm not sure where the idea that Steam can't (or won't) remove games from your account came from.
 
[quote name='MysterD']In Valve Time, how long does it normally take for Steam Support to reply....? ;)[/QUOTE]

Anytime I've had them do anything it was in less than 24 hours.
 
[quote name='jshackles']The Game of Thrones: Genesis game has a 5 activation limit. After you've installed it on 5 PCs, I don't think you'll ever be able to play it again.

There have been a few people in this forum who have reached the upper limit of these installs and wrote about it. Basically, Steam cannot remove the game from your account (so it cannot be re-purchased) and it can be downloaded by Steam but once you try to play it (and thus, "activate" it) the activation fails and it locks you out.

So typically, games with these types of DRM have a red banner for a reason. ;)[/QUOTE]

Steam support CAN remove games from your account, it all depends on the support rep you get, and how well you explain your situation. I had Saints Row 3 Unlock DLC removed from my account, due to me not understanding what the DLC did when purchasing, and they removed it from my account with no hassle. Same applies to games.

Hell, I believe Severose got games REFUNDED from his account, so they were also removed.

I have heard of stories where people get bad support reps that won't remove games from your account, but it's mostly down to them not doing their job properly, or whoever submitted the ticket failed to explain their situation well enough.
 
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[quote name='Idiotekque']Wha? I've heard multiple accounts of people getting Steam to remove games from their account no problem (albeit slowly, since it's Steam support).

Hell, just a few weeks ago spoder asked them to remove a Sleeping Dogs DLC and they did. Rather quickly too, iirc.[/QUOTE]

I think it's a YMMV thing honestly. I can personally attest to having the most difficult time getting their 'support' to understand even simple problems/requests.

I'm sure you can get a somewhat useful and helpful rep but I honestly don't know that I ever got any the times I have used Steam support, which thankfully has not been very often but still.

Of course as was mentioned their response time is pretty awful as well.

I guess it's like trying to get EA to add on old game to your Origin account that doesn't automatically activate to Origin. You probably just have to keep trying and trying until you get a rep who will do it. Only in the case of Steam there's no live chat so with their response time that could potentially take quite some time over multiple tries.

The problem at that point become is it worth the time and hassle for some game you probably got cheap anyway or is it a case of Ain't Nobody Got Time Fo' That?
 
Anyone planning on buying Age of Empires II HD?

The more I read dev/official responses in the Steam forums, the more turned off I get. Any time someone asks about updating it with features that the RTS genre has come up with over the last 15 years the response is "we want to keep the game as close to the one you loved back in the day." Well it ain't back in the day any more. I dragged out my old discs and gave it a whirl again, I am thinking this has got to be a joke. They are going to release this with no attack-move ability, no queue for upgrades, no selecting more than 40 units at a time, no UI update, etc. It felt like I spent just as much time fighting the limitations of the interface and controls as I did the AI. ugh
 
[quote name='travathian']Anyone planning on buying Age of Empires II HD?

The more I read dev/official responses in the Steam forums, the more turned off I get. Any time someone asks about updating it with features that the RTS genre has come up with over the last 15 years the response is "we want to keep the game as close to the one you loved back in the day." Well it ain't back in the day any more. I dragged out my old discs and gave it a whirl again, I am thinking this has got to be a joke. They are going to release this with no attack-move ability, no queue for upgrades, no selecting more than 40 units at a time, no UI update, etc. It felt like I spent just as much time fighting the limitations of the interface and controls as I did the AI. ugh[/QUOTE]

Gross. I never played the original, but sounds like a blatant cash grab to me.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority, but whenever I hear of an HD version of a game I assume it's just the same game with a graphical overhaul. I think that's nicer for games where graphics are a bigger part of the equation, but for something like AoEII I wasn't expecting any change to game play elements.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Maybe I'm in the minority, but whenever I hear of an HD version of a game I assume it's just the same game with a graphical overhaul. I think that's nicer for games where graphics are a bigger part of the equation, but for something like AoEII I wasn't expecting any change to game play elements.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing. I'd expect them to update the graphics a bit, maybe fix a few bugs, and make sure it'll run perfectly on modern systems. They're doing more than I expected them to do by adding Steam achievements to the game and integrating it with the Steam workshop. It's not a full remake, so I wouldn't think that they would change any of the game mechanics.
 
[quote name='DaiMonPaul']I was thinking the same thing. I'd expect them to update the graphics a bit, maybe fix a few bugs, and make sure it'll run perfectly on modern systems. They're doing more than I expected them to do by adding Steam achievements to the game and integrating it with the Steam workshop. It's not a full remake, so I wouldn't think that they would change any of the game mechanics.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, this. Majesty Gold HD ain't got no game changing updates either, they just upped the resolution.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Maybe I'm in the minority, but whenever I hear of an HD version of a game I assume it's just the same game with a graphical overhaul.[/QUOTE][quote name='DaiMonPaul']I was thinking the same thing. I'd expect them to update the graphics a bit, maybe fix a few bugs, and make sure it'll run perfectly on modern systems. They're doing more than I expected them to do by adding Steam achievements to the game and integrating it with the Steam workshop.[/QUOTE][quote name='Idiotekque']Yeah, this. ^^[/QUOTE]

Same here. Updated graphics, bug fixes, compatibility updates, possibly achievements and things of that nature. I certainly don't expect the gameplay to be changed (aside from any changes that were as a result of bugfixes.)
 
[quote name='spoderman']Steam support CAN remove games from your account, it all depends on the support rep you get, and how well you explain your situation. I had Saints Row 3 Unlock DLC removed from my account, due to me not understanding what the DLC did when purchasing, and they removed it from my account with no hassle. Same applies to games.

Hell, I believe Severose got games REFUNDED from his account, so they were also removed.

I have heard of stories where people get bad support reps that won't remove games from your account, but it's mostly down to them not doing their job properly, or whoever submitted the ticket failed to explain their situation well enough.[/QUOTE]

can u explain about the refunded possibly like they get rid of it if u refund from another site and u want to put the right key in?
 
[quote name='tebowdragon15']can u explain about the refunded possibly like they get rid of it if u refund from another site and u want to put the right key in?[/QUOTE]

What?
 
[quote name='tebowdragon15']can u explain about the refunded possibly like they get rid of it if u refund from another site and u want to put the right key in?[/QUOTE]
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[quote name='tebowdragon15']can u explain about the refunded possibly like they get rid of it if u refund from another site and u want to put the right key in?[/QUOTE]

Are you asking if they will remove your games if you buy a game somewhere else, activate the key, and then get a refund for it? That's not cool. They have no way of knowing, but still, not a good idea. Or are you asking about refunding Russian keys so your account doesn't get banned due to region restriction? If the latter, then yes. Just contact them explaining the mistake, and hopefully they'll remove it for you.
 
[quote name='travathian']Anyone planning on buying Age of Empires II HD?

The more I read dev/official responses in the Steam forums, the more turned off I get. Any time someone asks about updating it with features that the RTS genre has come up with over the last 15 years the response is "we want to keep the game as close to the one you loved back in the day." Well it ain't back in the day any more. I dragged out my old discs and gave it a whirl again, I am thinking this has got to be a joke. They are going to release this with no attack-move ability, no queue for upgrades, no selecting more than 40 units at a time, no UI update, etc. It felt like I spent just as much time fighting the limitations of the interface and controls as I did the AI. ugh[/QUOTE]

[quote name='DaiMonPaul']I was thinking the same thing. I'd expect them to update the graphics a bit, maybe fix a few bugs, and make sure it'll run perfectly on modern systems. They're doing more than I expected them to do by adding Steam achievements to the game and integrating it with the Steam workshop. It's not a full remake, so I wouldn't think that they would change any of the game mechanics.[/QUOTE]


I hadn't been following its development, but it seems to me that recreating the game as close to the original as they can and then opening it up to Workshop to allow people to add in these optional improvements really is the ideal way to do it.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Maybe I'm in the minority, but whenever I hear of an HD version of a game I assume it's just the same game with a graphical overhaul. I think that's nicer for games where graphics are a bigger part of the equation, but for something like AoEII I wasn't expecting any change to game play elements.[/QUOTE]
When I see HD version, I think of same game with better graphics, bugfixes and maybe cheevos. Maybe bonus content (like preorder bonus videos, or developer videos), if were lucky but nothing that changes the game.
 
[quote name='Bloodbooger']Anyone take notice of "The Banner Saga: Factions," I could have sworn this was planned as a regular purchase game on Kickstarter.[/QUOTE]

It still is. This is just the multiplayer component rolled out as a free-to-play to snag some extra revenue and fine-tune the combat system.

Some people are pretty pissed about it. But the kickstarter pretty well states it planned to do something along these lines from the beginning.
 
How is it that my most played game on Steam is a 3.75$ game which can be played on a computer 10 years old. Why do i Have hundred's of dollars invested in this rig so that I can play Terraria.
Very odd.
 
[quote name='Detruire']Same here. Updated graphics, bug fixes, compatibility updates, possibly achievements and things of that nature. I certainly don't expect the gameplay to be changed (aside from any changes that were as a result of bugfixes.)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm in with these guys. The game is what it is. I still think it's the best RTS I've ever played and it's one that I played for many years. I'm not willing to play $15-20 for a Steamed version any more than I am for the BG: EE, but I can wait for a sale and pick it up at a price that's more palatable for an old game that I've already played.
 
[quote name='sleeping_lights_on']How is it that my most played game on Steam is a 3.75$ game which can be played on a computer 10 years old. Why do i Have hundred's of dollars invested in this rig so that I can play Terraria.
Very odd.[/QUOTE]


And soon you'll be able to play Terraria on a console that once cost "SIX HUNDRED US DOLLARS."
 
[quote name='sleeping_lights_on']How is it that my most played game on Steam is a 3.75$ game which can be played on a computer 10 years old. Why do i Have hundred's of dollars invested in this rig so that I can play Terraria.
Very odd.[/QUOTE]

My most hours logged are with the King's Bounty games, which now come practically free in bundles. Oh well, at least you need a graphics card to play those.
 
[quote name='sleeping_lights_on']How is it that my most played game on Steam is a 3.75$ game which can be played on a computer 10 years old. Why do i Have hundred's of dollars invested in this rig so that I can play Terraria.
Very odd.[/QUOTE]


Usually the better the graphics the crappier the gameplay. AAA publishers are more and more concerned with making interactive movies.
 
[quote name='annihilator']My most hours logged are with the King's Bounty games, which now come practically free in bundles. Oh well, at least you need a graphics card to play those.[/QUOTE]
Hate to burst your bubble, but they played great on my crappy old Dell with integrated graphics.
 
[quote name='MysterD']Why would anyone ever search for me? :p


You remember when Amazon MP3 download service had Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" album download for 99 cents, right?
Yeah - I'm sure that's the kind of popularity people had w/ SimCity - there's just so many trying to get what they want, the servers just can't handle it, no matter what. PERIOD.
Same thing happened w/ Diablo 3.
Again - plenty of reason here for a company to NOT force the always online requirement. I'm sure many gamers just want to play their game ALONE & OFFLINE, if you give them the option to do so. I'm sure some gamers don't give 2 damns about playing w/ others; Achievements; Facebook and Origin integration; and any of that stuff.

I understand piracy sucks and that piracy stuff really hurts dev's and pub's - so they might THINK it is a logical reason to do force the "Always online" thing; but, when connections ain't good enough (and probably never will be, for that matter) and you're only hurting paying customers, you could turn those into pirates and/or boycotters of your products, too. That'd be even more lost $ for EA.
I tend to shutter at the thought of something like some OnLive w/ Cloud gaming succeeding. I hope it never succeeds.
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Actually, no, I'm really that disconnected from American media/mainstream. I never bothered looking into who Gaga was until the last year.

I just /facepalm at the Diablo 3 launch. I mean seriously, have they learned nothing from running WoW?

[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Maybe I'm in the minority, but whenever I hear of an HD version of a game I assume it's just the same game with a graphical overhaul. I think that's nicer for games where graphics are a bigger part of the equation, but for something like AoEII I wasn't expecting any change to game play elements.[/QUOTE]


This. And runs without issue on modern systems.

[quote name='Bloodbooger']Anyone take notice of "The Banner Saga: Factions," I could have sworn this was planned as a regular purchase game on Kickstarter.[/QUOTE]


This is the one kickstarter I took a chance on (the others were well seasoned and proven devs that wanted to produce a sequel to their classics: Wasteland, Leisure Suit Larry, Carmageddon). Until I am handed a white handkerchief wrapped around a finger segment that used to belong to one of the Banner Saga devs (yakuza style), I cannot forgive them. Many other Banner Saga backers feel similarly.

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[quote name='asheskitty']This is the one kickstarter I took a chance on (the others were well seasoned and proven devs that wanted to produce a sequel to their classics: Wasteland, Leisure Suit Larry, Carmageddon). Until I am handed a white handkerchief wrapped around a finger segment that used to belong to one of the Banner Saga devs (yakuza style), I cannot forgive them. Many other Banner Saga backers feel similarly.[/QUOTE]

I don't get it - what are the backers complaining about? The fact that the (free) MP aspect of the game came out before SP?
 
[quote name='seamoss']I don't get it - what are the backers complaining about? The fact that the (free) MP aspect of the game came out before SP?[/QUOTE]


You, me, switchblades after school.
 
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