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After playing both Wake and Lunnye Devitsy... :whistle2:k

Wake was a few notches above bad and pretty underwhelming. Maybe it would have slightly helped to have designed the game without a heavy coating of stylistic blur effect. I felt like I wasn't wearing contacts while playing. I gave it a chance and finished it rather than idle (yeah, I'm pretty tolerant) but I was left feeling empty just like the ending scene of the mechanic guy floating on a raft all alone after the ship went down. The game is designed for multiple plays on various difficulty levels. Once was more than enough for me. :shock:

Lunnye Devitsy was much much better than Wake (if we're comparing the two). As a little alien dude you drop from the Moon and you walk around this floating mountain and interact with the environment until things start to make sense (if they ever do). There's no menu and no settings other than use 'F' to make the game go full screen. The concept is interesting, but if not seen before in other indie games. You collect moons, rocket pieces, and try to reach the moon in six different ways. It's not terribly difficult or mind bending to solve. It could've been better but it isn't really all that bad as some people claim. 8-[

However, you're probably better off sinking some time into better indie games like Rogue Legacy, Fly'n, Bastion, Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack, Legend of Grimrock, The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing, FTL, Don't Starve, etc...

A helpful hint: If anyone does give this game a try you'll want to find the 'Sprint' and the 'Double Jump' commands/actions by searching the areas below where you land.

Also, if you want a Map of the area and the game's soundtrack (MP3 320 or Flac) go to into your Steam directory (steam/steamapps/common/Lunnye Devitsy/Bonus folder) to find them. It's pretty cool that the developer, Boss Baddie, includes the game soundtracks free with each of their games.

 
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I wish they'd drop the price on Oblivion/Morrowind a bit more.  They've been at sales at this price for the past 2 years, I think.  Maybe next year I'll go ahead and purchase them, I'm sure they'll be at this price again then as well...

 
INCyr said:
I wish they'd drop the price on Oblivion/Morrowind a bit more. They've been at sales at this price for the past 2 years, I think. Maybe next year I'll go ahead and purchase them, I'm sure they'll be at this price again then as well...
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I understand where's you're coming from, but they are AAA games (okay, just Morrowind, but Oblivion is needed for Morroblivion) with hundreds of hours of gameplay... not your over-and-done in 10-20 hours game. I seriously doubt Bethesda would get much more sales by dropping them lower.

 
asheskitty said:
I understand where's you're coming from, but they are AAA games (okay, just Morrowind, but Oblivion is needed for Morroblivion) with hundreds of hours of gameplay... not your over-and-done in 10-20 hours game. I seriously doubt Bethesda would get much more sales by dropping them lower.
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Morrowind: GOTY and Oblivion: GOTY Deluxe both EACH have taken over 130 hours of my life each, AT LEAST.

Skyrim w/ no DLC has taken around 100+ hours of my life.

Yeah, these games are EASILY worth the $, if you like them. They're one of the few series of games that I have no problems dropping more $ on than most games that I actually drop money on. These games offer so much content - and a great deal of it is great.

I love these time-sinks.

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I just....can't take them all in one at once, though. I spread them out - b/c they're so long, so big, and b/c there's so much to do. After a while, I just need a break from a ES game.

My process for ES games goes like this:

Step 1 - I might play a Elder Scrolls game for whatever my fill is (anywhere from 10-30 hours, normally - sometimes it's more, sometimes less);

Step 2 - Get away from them for a while (maybe a week or so; maybe a month or 2 or 3) to play some other games.

Step 3 - Go back to Step 1.

Actually, those 3 steps also often apply to TDU2 and The Sims series of games.

 
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I dunno.  With the update mods out there, both Oblivion and Morrowwind can essentially be top of the line, just released this year, kinda games.  Especially if you've never played them before.  You'd seriously dump a couple hundred of hours into each.  Don't devalue such a great product.

 
IkedaTeramusa said:
I dunno. With the update mods out there, both Oblivion and Morrowwind can essentially be top of the line, just released this year, kinda games. Especially if you've never played them before. You'd seriously dump a couple hundred of hours into each. Don't devalue such a great product.
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Given the amount of time a player can invest in these games if they like these games...

At 75% off - Oblivion: GOTY Deluxe & Morrowind: GOTY, are a bloody STEAL.

There's 100's of hours w/ each of these packages.

I'm not even counting the likely more time you can get out of these games by modding them.

 
Alright.  I've already got Skyrim tied to my account, basically unplayed.  I still have unredeemed keys to Morrowind and Oblivion from the GG fiasco.  I've never played any Elder Scrolls games, because a) I generally don't look for games I can dump 100 hours into, I prefer shorter ones with clear ends in sight and b) I like my rpgs tightly plotted like Witcher and Mass Effect.  Story and characters are important to me.  Thus, I suspect open-world isn't my style, and for that reason I haven't played either of the Fallouts either.  Does anybody want to try to change my mind?

 
annihilator said:
Alright. I've already got Skyrim tied to my account, basically unplayed. I still have unredeemed keys to Morrowind and Oblivion from the GG fiasco. I've never played any Elder Scrolls games, because a) I generally don't look for games I can dump 100 hours into, I prefer shorter ones with clear ends in sight and b) I like my rpgs tightly plotted like Witcher and Mass Effect. Story and characters are important to me. Thus, I suspect open-world isn't my style, and for that reason I haven't played either of the Fallouts either. Does anybody want to try to change my mind?
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I won't try and change you mind, but I'll say this. Mass Effect is my absolute favorite game (series actually) and Skyrim (haven't delved deep into the others) is easily my second favorite. I have at least 1000 hours in each between console and PC. And me and my A.D.D. are not too big on really open world games (GTA, AC, etc.). FWIW
 
Annihilator,

I don't really WANT to change your mind.  It's either the game style you like, or not.  Of all the Fallouts, the only one with a clear start and end (without DLC) was FO3.  That games was like.. GAME OVER and that was it.  It left a bit to be decided and actually, on initial release, caused a HUGE stir because it just ended. 

So for you, maybe these aren't your games.  I always go in and no matter HOW many times I replay, I end up finding stuff I didn't see previously.  Skyrim I pick a direction and run.  Sometimes into the mountains, sometimes I swim underwater constantly.  Morrowwind is similar.  I didn't care for the scaling of Oblivion too much.  (i.e. as you get stronger, so do the enemies).  I PREFER games where I can accidentally walk into a cave and get stomped by something that I shouldn't be fighting fresh off the boat.  I always thought that about MMO's as well.  I prefer MMO's that aren't area driven (i.e. this area is for level 45-50).

That being said, all of those games have EXCELLENT stories.  If played strictly for the stories and no side missions were accomplished.  I have to say I enjoyed Skyrim but STORYLINE-wise I think I prefer:  FO:NV, Morrowind, FO3, Skyrim, Oblivion.

 
annihilator said:
Alright. I've already got Skyrim tied to my account, basically unplayed. I still have unredeemed keys to Morrowind and Oblivion from the GG fiasco. I've never played any Elder Scrolls games, because a) I generally don't look for games I can dump 100 hours into, I prefer shorter ones with clear ends in sight and b) I like my rpgs tightly plotted like Witcher and Mass Effect. Story and characters are important to me. Thus, I suspect open-world isn't my style, and for that reason I haven't played either of the Fallouts either. Does anybody want to try to change my mind?
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I absolutely DON'T recommend you play these games for LONG extensive periods of hours w/out playing anything else.

Get your fill, whatever it might be (could be 10 hours; could be 20; could be 30; whatever) - and when you are done and you know you've hit your fill, go away for it for a bit.

And then play other stuff for a fair number of hours.

Eventually, you'll come back to an ES game - and then repeat this process again...and again...and again...and again....

ES games often feel like offline MMO's, that often have fetch quests galore, not that great storytelling and characters. There are some quests that are the complete opposite, though - and do story-telling and decision-making stuff.

(Oh, the quest in Split for Oblivion is VERY memorable, hehe).

I do recommend if you do play Oblivion - do the Dark Brotherhood quests. Same goes for Skyrim, as well - that Dark Brotherhood quest-line in both of those games are AWESOME.

The ES games feel like a game w/ just TONS of side-quests. There are some quick side-quests; and then there are the longer side-quest strings (i.e. Dark Brotherhood & Thieves' Guild quests). This even feels true for most of the main quests, as well - it honestly feels like just another long strings of side-quests. Also, often a lot of the DLC's/expansions seem to have more focused, shorter, & more quality-controlled content than the base game. I found this to be true for Morrowind expansions (Tribunal + Bloodmoon) + Oblivion expansions (Shivering Isles + KOTN).

 
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IkedaTeramusa said:
I dunno. With the update mods out there, both Oblivion and Morrowwind can essentially be top of the line, just released this year, kinda games. Especially if you've never played them before. You'd seriously dump a couple hundred of hours into each. Don't devalue such a great product.
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honestly this is the reason I'm not getting these right now. Another 100+ hour game is just more than I care to undertake right now :whee:

 
IkedaTeramusa said:
Annihilator,

I don't really WANT to change your mind. It's either the game style you like, or not. Of all the Fallouts, the only one with a clear start and end (without DLC) was FO3. That games was like.. GAME OVER and that was it. It left a bit to be decided and actually, on initial release, caused a HUGE stir because it just ended.

So for you, maybe these aren't your games. I always go in and no matter HOW many times I replay, I end up finding stuff I didn't see previously. Skyrim I pick a direction and run. Sometimes into the mountains, sometimes I swim underwater constantly. Morrowwind is similar. I didn't care for the scaling of Oblivion too much. (i.e. as you get stronger, so do the enemies). I PREFER games where I can accidentally walk into a cave and get stomped by something that I shouldn't be fighting fresh off the boat. I always thought that about MMO's as well. I prefer MMO's that aren't area driven (i.e. this area is for level 45-50).

That being said, all of those games have EXCELLENT stories. If played strictly for the stories and no side missions were accomplished. I have to say I enjoyed Skyrim but STORYLINE-wise I think I prefer: FO:NV, Morrowind, FO3, Skyrim, Oblivion.
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Storyline-wise, plot-wise, and character-wise - on those aspects, I think technically FO:NV Ultimate is MUCH better and MORE consistent at those things than all of those other Bethesda games. Obsidian (who made FO:NV) is just tons better at all of that stuff, when compared to Bethesda.

Don't get me wrong here - when it comes to pushing ridiculous amounts of content in a base game w/ tons to do and a huge game to get lost in, Bethesda is impossible to top at that.

 
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When looking into Van Helsing on the SSS, there were a lot of posts on SPUF about coop bugs, fyi.
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Good to know. I know I'll get another copy next time the game goes on sale for the hubby...but I'm not sure I can wait that long to play more Van Helsing.

Motoki said:
OTOH then sometimes I go ahead on some games that are meh (Shadowrun Returns) or complete and utter festering piles of garbarge (Realms of Arkania).

Sometimes I wish I had a time machine to go back and fix my bad purchases and get my buyer's regret sales I passed on.
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But if someone doesn't buy these things, how will we know if they're good? And how will they get Humble Bundled? :D

 
MrNinjaSquirrel said:
honestly this is the reason I'm not getting these right now. Another 100+ hour game is just more than I care to undertake right now :whee:
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When dealing w/ Bethesda games - Don't take 50-100 hours in a row w/out playing another game! Most of the ES games feel like a bunch of strings of side-quests. Space 'em out every few months!

 
MysterD said:
When dealing w/ Bethesda games - Don't take 50-100 hours in a row w/out playing another game! Most of the ES games feel like a bunch of strings of side-quests. Space 'em out every few months!
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I put 450 continuous hours into Skyrim. What does that say about my psyche?
 
MysterD said:
When dealing w/ Bethesda games - Don't take 50-100 hours in a row w/out playing another game! Most of the ES games feel like a bunch of strings of side-quests. Space 'em out every few months!
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what do you think I've been doing with Skyrim ;) maybe by next Quakecon I will have finished more than the main quest...

 
Neuro5i5 said:
I put 450 continuous hours into Skyrim. What does that say about my psyche?
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If you can do that and not lose interest; not be burned-out; and not lose interest - go right ahead! More power to you! :D

It's all really about finding one finding their personal "fill" for a game.

I just can't handle doing Bethesda games for ridiculous #'s of hours in a row anymore (think over 50 hours) w/out playing other games in-between anymore! I have to space these big ES games out. While their games have drastically improved in so many ways over the years, their game's style & formula hasn't really changed super-duper much since Morrowind.

 
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MrNinjaSquirrel said:
what do you think I've been doing with Skyrim ;) maybe by next Quakecon I will have finished more than the main quest...
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Maybe by the next QuakeCon, I'll actually work more on Skyrim's Main Quest. ;)

I been doing pretty much everything else, for the most part!

I don't know what it is - but the Main Quests in the ES games often are nowhere as good as some of the shorter side-quests or the side-strings like The Dark Brotherhood quest-line.

 
Eldredpe said:
New Vegas is incredibly well-written. That's to me the Beth game that get's closest to Bioware quality when it comes to story (Obsidian has worked with both Bioware and Bethesda now, to be fair).
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I expect extremely well-written stuff, especially when Chris Avellone is involved. That dude's work since Fallout 2 has been, for the most part, outstanding (Fallout 2 + PST at Black Isle; KOTOR 2 + NWN2: MOTB + the underrated Alpha Protocol + FO:NV). I just wish Obsidian would, in many cases, have a better QA department and stomp-out more technical problems before a game's released.

That always reminds me of THIS comic:

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For anyone that's played Morrowind recently, how well does it hold up? I always keep passing on it because it looks dated and I'm afraid that it wouldn't hold up well to similar more recently released games.

 
MysterD said:
Maybe by the next QuakeCon, I'll actually work more on Skyrim's Main Quest. ;)

I been doing pretty much everything else, for the most part!

I don't know what it is - but the Main Quests in the ES games often are nowhere as good as some of the shorter side-quests or the side-strings like The Dark Brotherhood quest-line.
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I have a story to tell about The Dark Brotherhood.

I always play the good guy in video games. Being the villain never appeals to me.
When that lady showed up to make me kill one of those people in that shack and started all that Dark Brotherhood mess, I was VERY unhappy. I refused to kill the people, so I had to kill her. It took me at least 10 tries. She could kill me so easy. Finally, I tricked the A.I. by standing on a dresser. She ran across the room away from me, and I took her out with my bow. Later, I infiltrated the Dark Brotherhood and killed every person in it.

My Skyrim is Dark Brotherhood free. :twoguns:

 
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INCyr said:
I wish they'd drop the price on Oblivion/Morrowind a bit more. They've been at sales at this price for the past 2 years, I think. Maybe next year I'll go ahead and purchase them, I'm sure they'll be at this price again then as well...
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Not sure if someone's posted this already, but Gamefly seems to be matching the Steam sales right now for the downloads. If you use the code GFDAUG20 you get an extra 20% off. I used it yesterday to get New Vegas Ultimate edition for 4 bucks vs 5 at Steam. Not sure if Oblivion/Morrowind are Steam activated or not though, and if they aren't, if that'd be a problem for you.

 
utopianmachine said:
I have a story to tell about The Dark Brotherhood.

I always play the good guy in video games. Being the villain never appeals to me.

When that lady showed up to make me kill one of those people in that shack and started all that Dark Brotherhood mess, I was VERY unhappy. I refused to kill the people, so I had to kill her. It took me at least 10 tries. She could kill me so easy. Finally, I tricked the A.I. by standing on a dresser. She ran across the room away from me, and I took her out with my bow.

Later, I infiltrated the Dark Brotherhood and killed every person in it.

My Skyrim is Dark Brotherhood free. :twoguns:
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Man, that's an AWESOME story from Skyrim! :D

Though, you probably should've spoiled-tagged some of that stuff.

 
pasports31 said:
Not sure if someone's posted this already, but Gamefly seems to be matching the Steam sales right now for the downloads. If you use the code GFDAUG20 you get an extra 20% off. I used it yesterday to get New Vegas Ultimate edition for 4 bucks vs 5 at Steam. Not sure if Oblivion/Morrowind are Steam activated or not though, and if they aren't, if that'd be a problem for you.
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IIRC, Skyrim was the first Bethesda-developed game to require Steam. Sure, FO:NV was the first Bethesda-published game (developed by Obsidian) to require Steam. And I recall Brink and RAGE (also part of the Zenimax club) also require Steam.

I don't think Oblivion and Morrowind are Steam-versions there on GameFly.

There's a note on there on GameFly for each.

For Oblivion: GOTY - Deluxe:

http://www.gamefly.com/Download-The-Elder-Scrolls-IV-Oblivion-Game-of-the-Year-Edition-Deluxe/5000740/#.Uf2Td56ZfIU

Certain modifications that edit the main executable are not supported.
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For Morrowind: GOTY:

http://www.gamefly.com/Download-Morrowind-Game-of-the-Year-Edition/5000122/

The downloadable version of this game may not be compatible with 3rd party modifications.
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Wake+Lunnye = 2deep4u arthouse crap.  It's funny I beat Wake in 38 minutes on Easy (you have to beat it once before you select harder difficulties) and only got 2 of the 7 card drops in that time.  Uninspired platformer with seizure inducing post processing (thankfully which can be turned off) where pretty much all of the mechanics go unexplained but aren't too hard to figure out.  Bundle fodder, do not buy separately.  Lunnye... had no idea what was going on.  I walked around a bit then fell into a pit with water.  After trying to get out for around fifteen minutes I gave up and just idled.

 
jimbodan said:
For anyone that's played Morrowind recently, how well does it hold up? I always keep passing on it because it looks dated and I'm afraid that it wouldn't hold up well to similar more recently released games.
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Man, I ain't played Morrowind in years...Can't really spoke on how it holds up today, on modern OS's and whatnot!

Combat-wise, Morrowind is nowhere as great as Oblivion + Skyrim. It's, by today's standards, VERY clunky. Also, many NPC's don't read like NPC's - many NPC's sound like encyclopedias w/ giant walls of text similar to something I might actually write - but of course, w/ tons less personality! Worst of all - many of those encyclopedia-like texts, are actually "global" variables - so one NPC on one side of Morrowind in Balmora might say the same exact thing someone else from the other side of the country in Vivec! WTH?

And of course, Skyrim's combat is nowhere as great as KOA:R or Dark Souls: PTD.

There is an argument that has been going around for years - Morrowind has one of the best & most interesting-looking game-worlds, architectures, & settings found in a ES game. Yep, for the most part, I pretty much agree w/ this sentiment - Morrowind is a very unique and off-beat place, when compared to other areas like Skyrim and Oblivion (those two feel a bit more like traditional and more standard). Skyrim looks very Nordic-inspired, while Oblivion often felt like I was in Rome.

The only other game-world that I really fell in love w/ in a ES game was that landmass in The Shivering Isles (Oblivion expansion). That game-world - it's just flat-out insane, in every way you can imagine!

Also, Morrowind's areas seem way more hard-coded - in a sense, it's too bad it doesn't tell you when you should hit an area. Hell, when I hit level 35 and reached the final boss (Dagoth Ur) in Morrowind (base game) - I killed him in like 3 swings. That felt WAY too easy. The final battle in Tribunal (expansion for Morrowind) was A LOT harder than the battle w/ Dagoth Ur. Oblivion has a scaling-system - so when you level, enemies level with you. Skyrim seems to have found a happy middle b/t what Morrowind and Oblivion did.

 
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Yep, TES games have never had amazing combat but the combat in Morrowind is particularly clunky.  I've also never cared for the TES character system, either.  Where Morrowind really shines is world design and atmosphere.  Oblivion was a huge step down and far more generic.  Have yet to play Skyrim.

 
Great discussion on the Elder Scrolls going on here. Skyrim was the first Elder Scrolls game I ever got into and I was hooked right from the start. Just an awesome experience and game to play. I've sunk in about 239 hours thus far on the PC and that's before any major modding or DLC. I remember the first thing I did after leaving the first village was climb mountains and explore. I didn't even care if I was too ill-equipped to battle enemies or bears or dragons, it was just fun to hike into the snowy mountain tops and look down below (and sometimes jump off). No, I never did that... well actually I think I did once, by mistake. All in the name of fun and freedom of course. ;)

Man, I'm very tempted to pick up Oblivion as it still looks pretty good. I think I might wait as it's been $6.24 before (Dec. 2012) and pick up Dragonborn DLC from Gamefly.

 
MysterD said:
Man, I ain't played Morrowind in years...Can't really spoke on how it holds up today, on modern OS's and whatnot!

Combat-wise, Morrowind is nowhere as great as Oblivion + Skyrim. It's, by today's standards, VERY clunky. Also, many NPC's don't read like NPC's - many NPC's sound like encyclopedias w/ giant walls of text similar to something I might actually write - but of course, w/ tons less personality! Worst of all - many of those encyclopedia-like texts, are actually "global" variables - so one NPC on one side of Morrowind in Balmora might say the same exact thing someone else from the other side of the country in Vivec! WTH?

And of course, Skyrim's combat is nowhere as great as KOA:R or Dark Souls: PTD.

There is an argument that has been going around for years - Morrowind has one of the best & most interesting-looking game-worlds, architectures, & settings found in a ES game. Yep, for the most part, I pretty much agree w/ this sentiment - Morrowind is a very unique and off-beat place, when compared to other areas like Skyrim and Oblivion (those two feel a bit more like traditional and more standard). Skyrim looks very Nordic-inspired, while Oblivion often felt like I was in Rome.

The only other game-world that I really fell in love w/ in a ES game was that landmass in The Shivering Isles (Oblivion expansion). That game-world - it's just flat-out insane, in every way you can imagine!

Also, Morrowind's areas seem way more hard-coded - in a sense, it's too bad it doesn't tell you when you should hit an area. Hell, when I hit level 35 and reached the final boss (Dagoth Ur) in Morrowind (base game) - I killed him in like 3 swings. That felt WAY too easy. The final battle in Tribunal (expansion for Morrowind) was A LOT harder than the battle w/ Dagoth Ur. Oblivion has a scaling-system - so when you level, enemies level with you. Skyrim seems to have found a happy middle b/t what Morrowind and Oblivion did.
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Thanks! That was kind of what I was worried about, but at least that it seems with mods the game still looks really good. It might be worth picking up just to check out the world.

IkedaTeramusa said:
If you wanna see pretty, check this out: http://kotaku.com/5947989/morrowind-just-got-even-prettier-with-this-new-graphical-overhaul

That's a year ago but still.

Looks nice. :)
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That looks really nice! I think I may actually pick it up.

 
Mooby said:
Yep, TES games have never had amazing combat but the combat in Morrowind is particularly clunky. I've also never cared for the TES character system, either. Where Morrowind really shines is world design and atmosphere. Oblivion was a huge step down and far more generic. Have yet to play Skyrim.
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What really even more so made Morrowind combat's clunky is early on -- i.e. namely before Level 10 -- your character sucks. The game treats you like a No0B very badly. And this is against enemies also even right within your level! The game feels like it actually dice-rolls on you w/ a loaded-dice where 5 sides are for "Miss" and the sixth side of the die is "Hit". It just does this so often very poorly for attacks. When you actually aim your bow and shoot someone in the head dead-on w/ an arrow after taking your time to set-up the shot; or swing a weapon dead-on and connect - there's a pretty good chance you WILL actually get a "MISS." That just doesn't feel right, in a game where you're actually doing literally hands-on mouse-looking and aiming for attacking. At least in Oblivion or Skyrim, on most enemies, you'll do some damage when you're a low-level - even if it's VERY little.

 
Deuterium7 said:
Great discussion on the Elder Scrolls going on here. Skyrim was the first Elder Scrolls game I ever got into and I was hooked right from the start. Just an awesome experience and game to play. I've sunk in about 239 hours thus far on the PC and that's before any major modding or DLC. I remember the first thing I did after leaving the first village was climb mountains and explore. I didn't even care if I was too ill-equipped to battle enemies or bears or dragons, it was just fun to hike into the snowy mountain tops and look down below (and sometimes jump off). No, I never did that... well actually I think I did once, by mistake. All in the name of fun and freedom of course. ;)

Man, I'm very tempted to pick up Oblivion as it still looks pretty good. I think I might wait as it's been $6.24 before (Dec. 2012) and pick up Dragonborn DLC from Gamefly.
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Oblivion's still great - especially the equipment you get from KOTN & the Shiv Isles content.

If you're planning to do Oblivion, I also recommend you get either Darnified UI; Dark UI; or the combo-version DarkUI'd Darn.

I used DarkUI'd Darn back in the day. :D

 

MysterD said:
Skyrim (base game) [Retail Box] was $10 during October 2012 at TRU when they did their PC Games Blowout.
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Yeah, that's where I got mine. Well, from price matching at Best Buy, as well as Starcraft 2: WoL, Diablo 3, and Modern Warfare 3 for the same price. Also Microsoft was selling the game for the same price on their website about a month later.

And let's not forget the GamersGate Bethesda fiasco. ;)

 
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Oblivion's still great - especially the equipment you get from KOTN & the Shiv Isles content.

If you're planning to do Oblivion, I also recommend you get either Darnified UI; Dark UI; or the combo-version DarkUI'd Darn.

I used DarkUI'd Darn back in the day. :D
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Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely make a note of that.

 
MysterD said:
What really even more so made Morrowind combat's clunky is early on -- i.e. namely before Level 10 -- your character sucks. The game treats you like a No0B very badly. And this is against enemies also even right within your level! The game feels like it actually dice-rolls on you w/ a loaded-dice where 5 sides are for "Miss" and the sixth side of the die is "Hit". It just does this so often very poorly for attacks. When you actually aim your bow and shoot someone in the head dead-on w/ an arrow after taking your time to set-up the shot; or swing a weapon dead-on and connect - there's a pretty good chance you WILL actually get a "MISS." That just doesn't feel right, in a game where you're actually doing literally hands-on mouse-looking and aiming for attacking. At least in Oblivion or Skyrim, on most enemies, you'll do some damage when you're a low-level - even if it's VERY little.
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I've only played Morrowind once (and it was back in 2005 when I was in University), and I remember this being extremely frustrating. I looked into modding the combat and the Morrowind die-hards who still frequent the forums said, "Lol, it's not that bad, just dump points into your weapon. I'm glad the combat is like this and not like that console-trash Oblivion/Skyrim!" I'm sure it's fine and dandy once you level up and can get a hit 9 times out of 10, but I'm not sure how much patience I would have to get to that point. And I swear, if I run into one Cliff Racer, I'll egg Todd Howard's house in retaliation.

 
Neuropod said:
Yeah, that's where I got mine. Well, from price matching at Best Buy, as well as Starcraft 2: WoL, Diablo 3, and Modern Warfare 3 for the same price. Also Microsoft was selling the game for the same price on their website about a month later.

And let's not forget the GamersGate Bethesda fiasco. ;)
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Yeah, from last early October 2012's TRU PC games blow-out, I bought MW3 + D3 + StarCraft 2: WoL for $10 each. :D

 
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I've only played Morrowind once (and it was back in 2005 when I was in University), and I remember this being extremely frustrating. I looked into modding the combat and the Morrowind die-hards who still frequent the forums said, "Lol, it's not that bad, just dump points into your weapon. I'm glad the combat is like this and not like that console-trash Oblivion/Skyrim!" I'm sure it's fine and dandy once you level up and can get a hit 9 times out of 10, but I'm not sure how much patience I would have to get to that point. And I swear, if I run into one Cliff Racer, I'll egg Todd Howard's house in retaliation.
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LOL @ Cliff Racers galore. Yeah, there were tons of those in Morrowind.

I haven't bought Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim yet - I wonder if there's any Cliff Racers there. ;)

Yeah, the learning curve for Morrowind is steep before you hit Level 10 - and I hope you actually have, hopefully by then, practiced whatever skills you want to eventually master + dumped more points into THOSE same skills at Level-Up time.

 
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