The Wii feels like such a buggy console to me

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Maybe its just mine, but a friend's is bad too.

First of all, most of the games in Wii Sports do not work well for me. Golf has a delay from what you see on the screen. Boxing does not pick up even my most exaggerated movements. Bowling seems to spin to the left no matter how straight I throw it.

Excite Truck simply does not control at all. I mean literally, it doesn't control. Gas, brake, and turbo work, but forget turning, it simply does not pick up anyone's movments when my friends come over to play.

Wii Update isn't working for me right now. First of all, I got 3-4 different error codes before I consistently got 51330. Then I'd have to keep trying to connect until about five tries later I could update. But then, at the update screen, my Wii froze. It froze again and the third time it finally updated.

I've had the console freeze when going into my messages as well.

Anyone else just have a generally buggy Wii console? I'm thinking of sending mine in.
 
Hmm odd. It could be your Wii-mote. Also check out the options in your Wii and make sure you've got the sensor bar positioned in the right place (above/below tv). I was having some problems with my Wii sensor bar, but that was fixed by scooting it up to the edge of the TV. Error codes happen all the time for me with the internet. No clue why.

I haven't had any problems with Excite Truck.
 
Mine seems to be fine on Wii Sports and Excite Truck. The only issue is with Wii Sports Boxing is a lil buggy on responses, but thats a known issue. I sometimes have problems getting my two controllers to sync up at the same time, but its usually not a problem. The only big gribe I have is not being able to exit out of Gamecube Mode easily. It has some room for improvement, but I wouldn't flat out call it buggy.
 
I know what your saying about Excite Truck. I sometimes feel a little out of control on that one, but I never feel like I don't have ANY control. Wii sports works perfectly, except for the Boxing which is a known issue, and I never play it.

As for the system itself I have never had any problems.
 
Wii Golf works perfectly for me. Boxing doesn't respond very quickly, especially when you're already throwing a punch. I've never had problems that you've mentioned though.
 
I've had the same problem with bowling, I throw a hook no matter what I do. This isn't a problem with the game though since almost everyone else I play it with can throw the ball straight no problem, using the same Wiimote.
 
[quote name='lionheart4life']I've had the same problem with bowling, I throw a hook no matter what I do. This isn't a problem with the game though since almost everyone else I play it with can throw the ball straight no problem, using the same Wiimote.[/QUOTE]
I used to do the same thing. I was turning my wrist at the last second, cuz I kept thinking I was gonna hit the TV :oops:
 
[quote name='xghostsniperx']Maybe its just mine, but a friend's is bad too.

First of all, most of the games in Wii Sports do not work well for me. Golf has a delay from what you see on the screen. Boxing does not pick up even my most exaggerated movements. Bowling seems to spin to the left no matter how straight I throw it.

Excite Truck simply does not control at all. I mean literally, it doesn't control. Gas, brake, and turbo work, but forget turning, it simply does not pick up anyone's movments when my friends come over to play.

Wii Update isn't working for me right now. First of all, I got 3-4 different error codes before I consistently got 51330. Then I'd have to keep trying to connect until about five tries later I could update. But then, at the update screen, my Wii froze. It froze again and the third time it finally updated.

I've had the console freeze when going into my messages as well.

Anyone else just have a generally buggy Wii console? I'm thinking of sending mine in.[/quote]

Honestly, hearing some of those complaints, it kinda just sounds like you suck. No offense intended, but statements such as "Golf has a delay..." means that you're probably just up there hacking and aren't holding your back swing long enough, or being smooth enough on your front swing.

"Boxing does not pick up even my most exaggerated movements." is at least similar to a problem people are aware of. You just have to learn how the game reacts. I didn't play boxing at all for the first month and a half I had my Wii, but now, once I took the time to learn it's nuances, I love it. Again, you can't just go up there and wail away. Your punches have to be more calculated and tactical. It's kinda crazy...but the game actually makes you box. Not like Fight Night where you can go toe to toe and just slug it out.

Finally, my favorite complaint from people who have no idea what they're doing "Bowling seems to go left no matter how straight I throw it." For one, it doesn't matter how straight you "throw it" if you wrist turns at any point during your follow through. Bowling is one of the most accurately represented experiences in Wii Sports, and I haven't seen a single person with good bowling fundamentals in real life not do well in Wii Bowling. My dad bowled a 195 his first game.

To sum up, while I won't deny the possibility of a remote/sensor bar problem in other facets of the game, all of those mini games use the accelerometers, so more than likely any problem being had is from "operator malfunction". Or more simply put: you just suck.
 
In Excite Truck, you can only turn up to a vertical position. Once you go past that (more that 90 degrees) it stops responding. Subtle movements! If that doesn't work, then it's your system/remote because that game controls great once you get the hang of it.
 
I've never had any problems (besides the nature of boxing, but you just have to learn it). It seems like you're either unwilling to learn how to play the games or your remote/Wii is broken in some odd way.
 
I got Wii Boxing to work better if you clutch the Wiimote and nunchuck in each fist, and hold them like you would if you were really boxing. I was holding them the regular way before that.
 
yeah - I mean I think you just have to get "in tune" with the system and learn how it works.

As for the slow internet - Mine was slow too - I have a few year old router with not so great signal strength - I added an external directional antenna and pointed it at the wall which the signal has to pass through to get to the wii and now it goes much, much faster - near instant. So I'd say signal strength from your router is likely the culprit with your internet connection.
 
I think Wii Sports is amazing and I hate the fact they made us pay more because it's bundled with it.

If you move your hand a little while playing Wii Baseball the bat moves with you. I think it's great and not at all sluggish.
 
Sounds like the sensor bar needs to be moved around a bit, I had to try a few different locations before I found one that was perfect. Hell i've had no problem with any game once I did that, bowling like a pro now
 
The sensor bar has nothing to do with any of his problems. :) The sensor bar only is used for pointing (like on the main menu, Zelda, etc.) which is not utilized in Excite Truck at all or in Wii Sports games (though the menus do use it).

I have to concur with the above post that it's just User Error. Get out your Excite Truck manual. Are you holding the remote properly? I playthed through the whole of the game, and while I may have sucked at times, it was my fault, not the controller.

If you want to pick on the system as being "buggy," there are more legitimate things to complain about. Sometimes the systems is really slow to get into a channel. The remotes, every now and then, will totally lose their sync. "WiiConnect24" at times feels liek "WiiConnectWhenWiiFeelLikeIt"--meaning lagging updates to weather and at times slow message delivery. For your update issues, make sure your wireless is transmitting on channels 1 or 11. It made no sense to me either, but that little change fixed all my problems.

This whole post brings back memories of playing NES/SNES/Genesis games with friends and someone would die in Mario or Soinc and there'd be a 3 minute rant about how the button was pressed but it didn't do anything! Stupid controller/console/TV/Pepsi!! It's ok if you suck at the games. Don't blame the system though. ;)
 
I was thinking this was going to be a discussion on the menus and OS. I've had enough problems with those.

Never really had issues with responsive controls. You have to understand the limitations of the game's design, which has little to nothing to do with the 'mote capabilities. I.e., boxing is not 1:1 movement. So you can't flail around furiously and then get mad when it's not performing those same actions on screen.

Meanwhile, I've had the system lock up a few times, fail to load some channels, and have an odd error where it wouldn't shut down except through unplugging.

[quote name='daroga']
This whole post brings back memories of playing NES/SNES/Genesis games with friends and someone would die in Mario or Soinc and there'd be a 3 minute rant about how the button was pressed but it didn't do anything! Stupid controller/console/TV/Pepsi!! It's ok if you suck at the games. Don't blame the system though. ;)[/QUOTE]

My favorite was always "YOU DISTRACTED ME!" when someone died somewhere, when you were doing nothing but sitting in the room watching them play. Generally this was during a platforming game, where you only had one tile to land on, and so it took a lot of timing and precision.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Honestly, hearing some of those complaints, it kinda just sounds like you suck. No offense intended, but statements such as "Golf has a delay..." means that you're probably just up there hacking and aren't holding your back swing long enough, or being smooth enough on your front swing.

"Boxing does not pick up even my most exaggerated movements." is at least similar to a problem people are aware of. You just have to learn how the game reacts. I didn't play boxing at all for the first month and a half I had my Wii, but now, once I took the time to learn it's nuances, I love it. Again, you can't just go up there and wail away. Your punches have to be more calculated and tactical. It's kinda crazy...but the game actually makes you box. Not like Fight Night where you can go toe to toe and just slug it out.

Finally, my favorite complaint from people who have no idea what they're doing "Bowling seems to go left no matter how straight I throw it." For one, it doesn't matter how straight you "throw it" if you wrist turns at any point during your follow through. Bowling is one of the most accurately represented experiences in Wii Sports, and I haven't seen a single person with good bowling fundamentals in real life not do well in Wii Bowling. My dad bowled a 195 his first game.

To sum up, while I won't deny the possibility of a remote/sensor bar problem in other facets of the game, all of those mini games use the accelerometers, so more than likely any problem being had is from "operator malfunction". Or more simply put: you just suck.[/quote]smartest post by a cag in training. evar.
 
[quote name='Strell']
Meanwhile, I've had the system lock up a few times, fail to load some channels, and have an odd error where it wouldn't shut down except through unplugging.



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I haven't ever had it lock up, but I did have one error one time (I can't for the life of me remember what it said, and this was the only time anything has ever happened), where I couldnt eject the disc and the only way out was to unplug it. Before I unplugged it I thought my kids had done something serious to it, but it turned out to be nothing.

I have even had a Gamecube and a PS1 Disc pop out of there at the same time (have to love 2 and 3 yr olds) and nothing has gone wrong with the system.
 
Are you playing on a tv with a native resolution that isn't 480i? If that is the case, and you are using composite cables, then that may be where the lag is coming from. I had the same problem when I first played PS2 on my plasma. Since the tv has to upconvert the signal to it's native resolution, this can cause lag. This generally is only a problem when upconverting 480i. If you are playing in 480p the tv can do this instantly, with little to no lag. Perhaps try using component cables if you are using an HDTV.
 
I've never had many problems with my Wii, the odd lock up but thats about it. Wii Sports controls fine, Excite Truck is super easy to control once you get the hang of it.
 
It is a bit buggy for me sometimes, in that it freezes up more than I'd like, and sometimes will sit on a black screen for a good minute before loading whatever channel or game I was trying to open.

I seem to get it more when I've had Wiconnect24 off, so I'm going to try leaving it on more (just don't like that it stays warm and uses more power since I've barely touched the Wii the past month.

No real problems with the controls, other than I agree Wii Boxing isn't as responsive as it could be leading to you having to fight pretty slow and strategically. Guess that could be good for some, but I'd rather just dodge and slug it out ala a Punch Out! type of game.
 
You're holding the wiimote wrong when playing excitetruck. I had the same problem. You just flip it on its side with the buttons facing you and hold it in that position.. like a steering wheel. I had mine tilted at an angle and it didn't work at all.
 
All my friends think Wii Golf is a piece of shit and is basically broken. I, on the other hand, have a 1200 ranking and a -1 handicap right now. I fucking HATE real golf, and have only played it twice (once in P.E. in high school).

You *have* to understand what the game wants you to do. In Golf, you MUST pull back slowly, pause at the top of your wind-up, and then swing fluidly through. You cannot whip the remote up to your shoulders and whip it through the swing in one movement.

In Boxing, you cannot punch with both hands at the same time. Oh, how many times I have seen my friends flail with both hands as quickly as they can, only to get no response at all. You must punch, wait for the punch to go through the forward motion ON-SCREEN, and from there you can punch again with your other hand. To punch with the same hand, the punch must be fully completed. You know, just like in real life.

With Excite Truck or NFS: Carbon, both of which use the same control style, you can only hold the controller with the buttons facing directly up or with the buttons facing you. Holding it somewhere in between results in virtually no response.

All of these specific motions sound picky and surprisingly specific for a gaming console geared towards newbies, but think about it: In a fighting game, you cannot do the half-circle motion and press the corresponding button at the exact same time, nor can you do the half-circle motion and then wait too long before pressing the corresponding button. You must do the half-circle motion and press the corresponding button immediately afterwards to get that precious HADUKKEN! fireball.

When you throw a baseball, you can't just whip your arm forward and expect to make it from center field to home plate. You have to bring your arm back and, in the swing forward, make an L-shape with your arm and flick your wrist forward almost simultaneously as you swing your arm down. Muscle memory is just a part of games, dude, and you just have to know what motions the game requires before you jump in - or before you start bitching about it.
 
Supershammy gets it.

Boxing and Golf aren't broken. They just aren't adhering to what people what them to do. All my friends had no issues with them, and that ran the gamut from nongamers and gamers alike.

People are expecting 1:1 when the game isn't designed that way. Why is it not designed that way? I dunno. Prolly saving that for a future game.
 
If you're having lag and you are on an HDTV, it's your TV. Someone in the thread posted what to do I think (basically get component cables).

Wii Sports: I know plenty of people can't throw straight in bowling! You aren't alone, and to tell you the truth, it's because... well... you suck... :whistle2:# You could say the Wii Remote is sensitive, but it definitely reads the slightest turns in your hand. This was so that you can add spin. I have friends that can turn it right, turn it left, or go straight on. We even did an experiment where we did a granny throw and got it straight on. Learn to control the spin and possibly move your Mii to the left or right to compensate.

Golf has its issues when I putt. Otherwise, it's reading my movements pretty well. And as someone mentioned, boxing may be just buggy, which it seems.

Excite Truck: The very first time I played it and the every first time I played a Wii, I felt the steering wasn't all that great. But I got used to it. It definitely wasn't meant to be a simulator and it does end up working out. In fact, when I was first playing, it was probably because I made lots of sporadic moves.

The fact you mentioned Golf has a delay and Excite Truck controls don't seem like they're working suggests me you got lag.

The only bug I have encountered on my Wii so far was in Boxing. It froze up after I won a match against my friend. A quick power down and up fixed it though.
 
Finally got back from my friend's house. I brought my controllers and my Wii over to his house just to see if it was my controllers of the console.

After tons of testing with various combinations (my controllers synched to his Wii, different sensor positions, etc), I think it is the control problems are because of rechargable batteries. Even though I am using the ones Nintendo reccomends, regular AA batteries seem to be more sensitive.

Let me explain my gripes in Excite truck in a more detailed manner, though. In the manual, it does not say to angle your controller as if you are driving a car. It says to hold it flat, horizontally. But I found the best way to get the most response it to angle it toward you slightly and play standing up.

I still cannot fix Wii golf. I've watched videos of real people playing it, and I still get the delay. I've played golf for 10+ years, its not like I can't swing a golf club. Basically, I do a normal swing, but by the time I'm fully through with my swing, it hasn't even registered on the screen.

But to defend myself, I didn't know that rechargable batteries would screw it up so much. Looks like Nintendo didn't either. I'm happy that I figured out though.

Looking through this thread is pretty depressing though. Tons of people just outright saying "You just suck". All it does is make you look ignorant. Its not my fault for being an intelligent consumer and buying rechargable batteries.

[quote name='6669']http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125887
So OP, your Wii is so bad, you're looking for a PS2 a half hour later?[/quote]

I don't know what the hell this is about. Just because I had a few problems with my Wii means I can't be buying other video game related stuff?
 
[quote name='xghostsniperx']Looking through this thread is pretty depressing though. Tons of people just outright saying "You just suck". All it does is make you look ignorant. Its not my fault for being an intelligent consumer and buying rechargable batteries.[/quote]I think (hope) those comments were all in jest. I know mine were. :)

What type / brand of rechargeables were you using? I've been using Duracell and Energizer's NIMH rechargables in the wiimotes since almost day 1 and not had any problems with them.
 
[quote name='daroga']I think (hope) those comments were all in jest. I know mine were. :)

What type / brand of rechargeables were you using? I've been using Duracell and Energizer's NIMH rechargables in the wiimotes since almost day 1 and not had any problems with them.[/quote]

Yea, I'm using the Energizer ones. Its weird, because I just let a pair charge overnight yesterday, just to make sure they were FULLY charged, and when I put them in the Wiimote today, they were already two bars depleted. Maybe buying a massive 48-pack of regulars are the way to go.

Seperate topic:

To anyone with Excite Truck...if you wouldn't mind looking in your manual for me at the controls section. The pictures seem to show the Wiimote in a flat position, right? Not angled towards your face? Because when I hold it perfectly flat, I get almost no response. But when I angle it towards me, it works fine.

I also find that standing up gives me more sensitivity.
 
[quote name='keithp']So the answer was post #6! Ding, ding, ding--we have a winner!! :D[/quote]

Haha, only not really. I check the battery meter all the time, and when there's one bar left I put a new set in. Changing my battery type? That's what fixed it.
 
[quote name='xghostsniperx']Yea, I'm using the Energizer ones. Its weird, because I just let a pair charge overnight yesterday, just to make sure they were FULLY charged, and when I put them in the Wiimote today, they were already two bars depleted. Maybe buying a massive 48-pack of regulars are the way to go.[/quote]Hmmm, that's really weird. Are they new? Mine aren't too new (about 7 months or so--but hardly used) and they register at full power when I put them in. Granted, they deplete faster than a regular alkaline, but they don't suddenly drop their power. It may be more something wrong with the batteries or the charger rather than the remote....?

Your issues with Excite Truck confuse me though. I played both difficulty levels keeping the remote pretty much with the buttons facing straight up all the time and had no issues. Maybe all your Wii-related tech is ganging up against you! RUN!!
 
[quote name='xghostsniperx']Haha, only not really. I check the battery meter all the time, and when there's one bar left I put a new set in. Changing my battery type? That's what fixed it.[/QUOTE]

Spoilsport! :roll:

Anyway, glad you fixed it!
 
[quote name='xghostsniperx']Looking through this thread is pretty depressing though. Tons of people just outright saying "You just suck". All it does is make you look ignorant. Its not my fault for being an intelligent consumer and buying rechargable batteries.[/quote]

While I appreciate the attempt, I use rechargable batteries (Tenergy brand from www.all-batteries.com) in my Wii remotes as well, and they work fine...get really good mileage out of them too. I'm sorry if I broke your spirit, but you're not the first person to complain about this kinda stuff (mostly the bowling and boxing). I guess I just hate it when people blame the technology. Like someone else alluded to earlier, nobody likes those "What the hell?!? I pressed A!!!" people. Anyway, all-batteries has good deals on the rechargables (I'd never pay Wal-Mart's prices), and many people have had success with them. They might be worth a look.
 
I'm using 3 different brands of (NIMH) rechargable batteries interchangeably amongst my Wii remotes and my Wavebirds. Most are 2-3 years old (got them for the Wavebirds). While I have to recharge them quite often, they never cause sensitivity problems for me. They definitely run down MUCH faster in the Wii remotes than in the Wavebirds, but that's as expected (though somewhat shocking as to how much difference there is).
 
I've used rechargeable NiMH's almost exclusively since launch, the only exception being the pack-in alkalines. I've never noticed any sensitivity problems with the NiMH's (both Sony and Juice brands).

The only thing is the longevity of the NiMH's is poorer than alkalines, but I can live with that. If you're not using rechargeables, you're throwing your money away. Mine are coming very close to paying for themselves after just a couple of months with the Wii. I've been giving the Wii a huge workout between Zelda/Wii Sports/Elebits/Rayman, the VC games, and all of the other features which I'm absolutely addicted to.

Also, for those of you who *do* use alkalines, please recycle them!! Battery specialty stores like Batteries Plus and a lot of other stores offer free recycling drop-off.
 
Just got my wii today, and i'm having the same problem with wii bowling.

Didn't however have the problem at my friends.

I'm almost positive it's something to do with my setup.
 
[quote name='xghostsniperx']
I also find that standing up gives me more sensitivity.[/quote]whoa! let's keep it G-rated please :whistle2:#
 
[quote name='MillerTime2523']Just got my wii today, and i'm having the same problem with wii bowling.

Didn't however have the problem at my friends.

I'm almost positive it's something to do with my setup.[/quote]

I'm afraid it's all in your head. Bowling has nothing...and I repeat NOTHING to do with the sensor bar. Like the other four Wii Sports, it relies on the accelerometers inside the remote for its motion sensing. There are so many factors that could throw off your game there's no point in "finding the answer". Maybe the change in carpeting is making you offbalance. Or the different lighting is causing you to turn your head at the last second. Either way, consistency in your technique is your only ally.
 
I am also having some problems with my Wii that I just got today. I have been in an endless checking internet loop (I even had to unplug it after 30 min because it wouldn't shut off in the loop), won't detect remote movements on a fresh boot twice and a few other minor bugs.
 
I know what you mean with wii golf, seems something gets off with the motion. sometimes I swing backwards and my club goes forward. This weekend about 5 of us got together includeing 1 person who hasn't touched a console in probally 20 years, and he loved the wii, he was sold on tennis and homerun derby. I think nintendo knew if they made Golf to good some of the people who would rather buy a mario golf rather than a tiger woods would never buy a mario golf when/if they make it, and the same for Boxing if the boxing was perfect I might consider not buying a Final Fight game if EA produces one. I think Wii Sports is more about demo to sell friends on Wii rather than giving the purchaser of the wii a super intense dead on game. And it not being the absolute best quality at all aspects is still better than the lack of any game the other consoles give. Though I notice Xbox360 is bundleing Madden07 or Gear of War now with the Pro version, makes me consider 360 sooner than later, I just have to many Wii games comeing this year yet to buy another console.
 
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