We won! Harmonix's Patch to Allow GH3 Guitars in Rock Band Finally Coming Out 9/11!!!

[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Don't start talking bullshit. Spider-Man 2 was great. .[/quote]

If you consider one of the worst games of all time great, then yeah.
 
[quote name='007']A dick move, for certain, but there's no denying that it's a smart one.[/QUOTE]

Lamentably, I agree with this. Besides, EA/Harmonix are spot the hell on with their DLC, and it's (kinda/sorta) competitively priced compared to GHIII. Cheaper and more frequent - more attention and money for EA. They're making Red Octane look like chumps so far.
 
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6184016.html?part=rss&tag=gs_news&subj=6184016

The game industry's newest feud has escalated into a full-scale open argument. Earlier this week, Harmonix laid the blame squarely on Activision for the lack of compatibility between Activision's Les Paul Guitar Hero III controller for the PS3 and the recently released Rock Band. Harmonix claimed Activision had "objected" to releasing a patch which would fix the compatibility issue. But Activision has hit back, claiming it's actually Harmonix and parent company MTV Games/Viacom which haven't come to the party.

In a press statement, Activision claims that Harmonix and MTV Games had recently "declined Activision’s offer to reach an agreement that would allow the use of Guitar Hero guitar controllers with Rock Band". "We have been and remain open to discussions with Harmonix and MTV Games/Viacom about the use of our technology in Rock Band. Unfortunately for Rock Band users, in this case Harmonix and MTV Games/Viacom are unwilling to discuss an agreement with Activision," the statement said.

"Activision’s top priority is to provide consumers with a seamless marriage of best-in-class hardware and software. We are focusing our efforts on innovating hardware and software that are designed to work together, work flawlessly and provide an enjoyable gaming experience."

The statement provided no other details on exactly what sort of agreement Activision was seeking from the makers of Rock Band.
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Surprisingly, Activision's blaming Harmonix for the blocked patch.
 
]The statement provided no other details on exactly what sort of agreement Activision was seeking from the makers of Rock Band.
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If you can't figure out what kind of "agreement" Activision is looking for, you're the thickest person in the world. Not you, Frisky, but anyone reading that paragraph who may think "I wonder what Activision wants in return?"
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If you can't figure out what kind of "agreement" Activision is looking for, you're the thickest person in the world. Not you, Frisky, but anyone reading that paragraph who may think "I wonder what Activision wants in return?"[/QUOTE]

Hmm, call me crazy but I think they want lots and lots of these-$
 
Haha is Activision that stupid to think even idiots can't see through their terrible marketing scheme in that press release? Even morons can figure out hey, there's a patch ready, but we'll block it until Harmonix/MTV Games pays us a shit load of cash.
 
Activision spokeswoman Maryanne Lataif said her company was willing to work with Harmonix to make the various game controllers fully compatible with one another. "Unfortunately for Rock Band users, Harmonix has been unwilling to discuss an agreement that will allow us to provide that option in a manner that maintains the high standards people have come to expect from Activision," Lataif said.

She added that any agreement will involve someone at Harmonix writing a check. "We believe we should be compensated for the use of our technology," said Lataif.
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http://www.boston.com/business/tech...tandoff_hits_a_sour_chord_with_gamers/?page=1

fuckin' A, man! Demanding compensation for someone else's work?!?!?!?! I know it's Sony Europe's dumbass slogan, but *THIS* is living!

"yeah, well, we're so fuckin' balls deep in cash and you guys sold...70K? hmm. wow. So, anyway, I know you patched the game and all but...yeah. No go until you fork over the money."
 
Eh. Considering the Harmonix "Contractual obligation album" that was Guitar Hero: Rocks the '80s, I can't imagine this isn't some kind of payback for half-assing that title.
 
Hmm. Could very well be a receipt, trq. A valid point. But one that assumes Activision is concerned with being looked upon as a "roster update" developer (which may or may not be correct) - and one that assumes Activision is willing to forsake its goodwill and penalize consumers for what a developer presumably did.

Well, there's little "presumable" about RT80s being a piping hot disc of disappointment, but at the same time it is quite possible that Activision said "QUICKLY WITH THE NEW GAME!" and insisted upon a genuine "roster update" title to get on shelves.

Either way, I'm still steamed, free hesher version of "We Three Kings" or no free hesher version of "We Three Kings."
 
Activision is scared, simply put, EA outdid Activision in almost every way with Rock Band.

Of course, now that Activision is now Activision Blizzard, things'll get very interesting with these two publisher mega corporations competing with one another. Previously there was no big competitor to EA, just smaller publishers that EA was trying to swallow up (Ubisoft).
 
[quote name='Thomas96']I wish they could just "leak" the patch somewhere online![/quote]

This is really hush hush but a little birdie told me speedy is working on this!
 
I'm suprised Activision doesn't sue already since the 360 version works with their controller. And without them receiving payment too.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']I'm suprised Activision doesn't sue already since the 360 version works with their controller. And without them receiving payment too.[/quote] THIS is the mind-boggling thing. They block it for the PS3 yet have no words for the 360 compatability >.>
It's actually the only thing that keeps me from buying GH3

Sooo, where do we go complain? :mrgreen:
I'll probably call from a payphone, curse at them until they hang up, then do it again, just for everyone's sake :p
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']THIS is the mind-boggling thing. They block it for the PS3 yet have no words for the 360 compatability >.>
It's actually the only thing that keeps me from buying GH3

Sooo, where do we go complain? :mrgreen:
I'll probably call from a payphone, curse at them until they hang up, then do it again, just for everyone's sake :p[/QUOTE]Nyko is making a guitar that works with GH3 AND Rock Band, while the two companies fight.
 
periphreals working w/ the PS3 is something that Sony should have worked out a long time ago. It sucks that no 3rd party periphreals work with the PS3. no taiko drum, no beatmania, none of the gh controllers.

Activision is blocking rock band cause they don't want them to sale any copies of the 59.99 game that was released for the PS3. IF this patch is never released, then there's absolutely no market for game only versions of rock band on PS3
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If it works w/ PS2 GH games on the PS3, I'll buy it - even if it is a Nyko product.[/quote]
You might want to reconsider after seeing the guitar itself. Mad Catz will be making official RB guitars, but that means it probably won't work with GHIII either, so you'll have very limited options for now.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']You might want to reconsider after seeing the guitar itself. Mad Catz will be making official RB guitars, but that means it probably won't work with GHIII either, so you'll have very limited options for now.[/quote]I'm assuming you're not a fan of the Gibson Explorer body style.
 
[quote name='lanzarlaluna']I'm assuming you're not a fan of the Gibson Explorer body style.[/quote]
If it's meant to look that crappy, then maybe I am. The official one that came with GHII on the 360 looks 100 times better than the Nyko guitars.
 
I hate to sound whiny, but I fuckin' dig everything about the Les Paul controller so bloody much, and I don't use the effects or solo buttons on the Fender on Rock Band.

So fuck you very much, Activision, for not letting me use your controller on Rock Band. I know which game I'll be supporting more, and that I'll be damned sure to buy any future GH game used so as to deprive you of any royalties you would derive from a new one. I know I'm just one person, but I'm not giving them a fuckin' dime for a new product.
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']THIS is the mind-boggling thing. They block it for the PS3 yet have no words for the 360 compatability >.>
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it has something to do with the fact that on the 360, it is reconized as a controller, and not something tied to a game...not sure the exact reason behind it as I have heard it talked about on 1up and allgames podcasts....shane bettenhause alleged that red octane was working on a patch that would block it on the 360 as well...granted that was about a month ago
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I hate to sound whiny, but I fuckin' dig everything about the Les Paul controller so bloody much, and I don't use the effects or solo buttons on the Fender on Rock Band.

So fuck you very much, Activision, for not letting me use your controller on Rock Band. I know which game I'll be supporting more, and that I'll be damned sure to buy any future GH game used so as to deprive you of any royalties you would derive from a new one. I know I'm just one person, but I'm not giving them a fuckin' dime for a new product.[/quote]

Same here, I won't pick up any of their stuff until they get their shit together. Do they have any idea how many sales they are depriving themselves of just because they have hard heads?

[quote name='ryanbph']it has something to do with the fact that on the 360, it is reconized as a controller, and not something tied to a game...not sure the exact reason behind it as I have heard it talked about on 1up and allgames podcasts....shane bettenhause alleged that red octane was working on a patch that would block it on the 360 as well...granted that was about a month ago[/quote] You know what, even though I have a relative who has it on the 360 and we all play together once in a while when we meet up, I believe they should release a patch to block it on the 360 just to get the point across. Once you have PS3 AND 360 owners "up-in-arms" about compatability issues, then maybe Activision will get their "Act" together because this is annoying >.>
 
I'm angry with Activision for doing what they do.
I'm angry with SCEA for their hands-off approach to this matter (which is just further reinforcing the idea that the 360 is the go-to platform for multiplatform titles this gen).
I'm angry with EA/RO for not pushing the matter harder.

[quote name='Inf^Shini']Same here, I won't pick up any of their stuff until they get their shit together. Do they have any idea how many sales they are depriving themselves of just because they have hard heads?[/QUOTE]

6 at the most. Gamers are pretty well known for feigning outrage and following up with resigned passive acceptance (see also: Madden sales post NFL 2K5, Guitar Hero DLC, Xbox 360 hardware). So they'll bitch, but not follow through. I may buy an Activision game, but I'll be damned sure to buy it used. I'm a savvy dude, and the boxes have the publisher on the box pretty bloody big, so I won't be making any errors.
 
It's mildly annoying, because I can still use the Fender - but I'd *prefer* to use the Les Paul. On the plus side, I could sell the Fender for a mint on eBay because of all the poor bastards who have software-only copies of the game. Poor kids.
 
From shane bettenhause, it wasn't so much activision as red octane and there disgust with harmonix...while most of the dirty laundry from the breakup hasn't come out...harmonix has mentioned something along the lines that red octane just made the guitar...I remeber red octane being really pissed about that (around e3) as they claim to not only help out with the game as well as making the guitar....kinda funny that harmonix guitars quality sucks after there comments this summer
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'm angry with Activision for doing what they do.
I'm angry with SCEA for their hands-off approach to this matter (which is just further reinforcing the idea that the 360 is the go-to platform for multiplatform titles this gen).
I'm angry with EA/RO for not pushing the matter harder.[/QUOTE]The truth of the matter is, I do put most of the blame on EA/Harmonix for no PS3 4 player Rock Band. If the game is made for 4 players, it should come with two guitars (and Rock Band bundles aren't even scarce, so I know there's enough out there). Although it's true Activision is being rude over this matter, they shouldn't be liable for no 4 players in Rock Band, because it isn't even their game or their problem (only EA/Harmonix's problem).

As for SCEA, what can they do? EA and Activision are two publishers you do not want to piss off. Their games are important to any PS3 success (PS3 needs Madden, CoD series, etc.).
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']The truth of the matter is, I do put most of the blame on EA/Harmonix for no PS3 4 player Rock Band. If the game is made for 4 players, it should come with two guitars (and Rock Band bundles aren't even scarce, so I know there's enough out there). Although it's true Activision is being rude over this matter, they shouldn't be liable for no 4 players in Rock Band, because it isn't even their game or their problem (only EA/Harmonix's problem).[/quote]

Your understanding of events is confused. Harmonix made the patch, making "4 player Rock Band" a reality. Would have happened, too...except Activision stepped in the way and said "no way, Jose."

As for SCEA, what can they do? EA and Activision are two publishers you do not want to piss off. Their games are important to any PS3 success (PS3 needs Madden, CoD series, etc.).
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Call their bluff, because they rely on the sales of those games to make a profit - and there's not a chance in hell they would drop support for the PS3.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Your understanding of events is confused. Harmonix made the patch, making "4 player Rock Band" a reality. Would have happened, too...except Activision stepped in the way and said "no way, Jose."[/quote]What I'm trying to say is that Harmonix tried to use a GH controller to solve their solution to allow for 4 player Rock Band. IF Rock Band was suppose to be made for 4 people, then it should have come will all controllers to allow for four player Rock Band. I know this would have made Rock Band more expensive, but that's the way I see it. Although, allowing a competitors guitar to work sounds like an excellent idea, but 4 player Rock Band on PS3 should be solved before using other accessories. This is kind of like me wanting to play a 4 player PS3 game with several people (and let's say I have 3 controller), and me expecting someone else to bring me a controller (when it would be nice for them to do it, but since I didn't have 3 controllers of my own, it's my fault there's no 4 player multi-player, not the people who didn't bring a controller).

Call their bluff, because they rely on the sales of those games to make a profit - and there's not a chance in hell they would drop support for the PS3.
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GH3 sold the least on PS3, and if Sony did upset them, I could see Activision pulling the plug on the 4th, when Sony really needs the series on their platform.

Anyway, I'm 100% behind Sony's open policy on accessories using the USB ports. It has nothing to do with the Rock Band situation, but one other accessories. An example being I'm a big DDR fan. The pads made by Konami, Mad Catz, and other 3rd parties are terrible. On the 360 right now, due to the closed policy MS has, my only choices are Konami and Mad Catz, so I can't exactly have a good DDR experience due to no metal pad or no good ignition pad (Mad Catz tried to make one, but the quality is pretty bad and it's priced way too high). Since they PS3 has an open policy, there has been small companies making good quality Ignition dance pads that can work on PS3, so I can use them on PS2 DDR games. This is one example. And like the PS2 situation, almost anyone can make a dance pad, giving us DDR fans many choices and not having to stick with two of the worst dance pad makers.
[quote name='seanr1221']I can't imagine how annoying this must be for you PS3 RB guys. The whole situation is truly mind boggling.[/QUOTE]I'm going to buy the game on PS3, but I only plan to play it online when I play others (most I may ever have in one room is 2).
 
I know because of this I have bought no DLC for GH3, it also helps that there's barely any and what they do have is pretty lame. I have been buying alot of RB DLC though. I have to say, I don't even play GH3 that much cause it was a fun party game for me and my roomates but I have no way of getting a guitar besides buying the game again. the only reason I'm keeping it is because I'm hoping theyll release the patch soon so I don't have to buy yet another guitar. I don't need 6 fake guitars in my apartment, the ladies don't find them as cool as real ones.
 
This may be an old thread and all, but I think it's worth it just for this bit of news:

A PS3 patch will be coming out this Thursday, September 11th, which will allow RB1 song export, in addition to updating DLC to our RB2 standards (so you can continue to rock the newer content in RB1 if you so choose!) This title update will also patch for the use of the Guitar Hero III Les Paul PS3 Controller with RB1 on the PS3. We're excited to release this, as controller compatibility is something we've been working towards for a long time.
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http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77842

Looks like Sony's finally stepped up with their pledge for better instrument compatibility on the PS3.
 
I am curious. Does the Guitar Hero 3 controller work with Guitar Hero 1 and 2 when played on a backwards compatible PS3? If so this would allow two controllers to work with all Guitar games with a minimum of expense.
 
[quote name='Purkeynator']I am curious. Does the Guitar Hero 3 controller work with Guitar Hero 1 and 2 when played on a backwards compatible PS3? If so this would allow two controllers to work with all Guitar games with a minimum of expense.[/QUOTE]Nope. It shuts off when you play a PS2 game.
 
Don't thank Activision since they caused this nine month delay for the release of the patch.

I think the only way to get the new guitars to work with GH1, GH2, and GH80's would be driver updates for the PS3's firmware so that the dongle would be recognized by the games as controllers.
 
[quote name='FrankTheFrowner']So does this mean that the GH: Aerosmith guitar would work also?[/quote]

Yes. The GH Aerosmith guitar is just a Les Paul with a different face plate.

One thing that hasn't been reported as much is that GH Aerosmith now works with the Rock Band Stratocaster after a recent patch. (GH3 still does not.)
 
[quote name='xeex']Yes. The GH Aerosmith guitar is just a Les Paul with a different face plate.

One thing that hasn't been reported as much is that GH Aerosmith now works with the Rock Band Stratocaster after a recent patch. (GH3 still does not.)[/quote]
Link? I only recall it being 360-only.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Link? I only recall it being 360-only.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, don't have a link. I'm just reporting my own experience after renting the game this weekend. A patch (version 1.10) was released on Friday or Saturday that suddenly let me use the Strat in the game.

Maybe someone else could verify that.
 
PAX PACK
This leads us to the PAX pack which was released yesterday on the PlayStation Store. Due to technical issues with the submission of "Livin on the Corner of Dude and Catastrophe" by MC Frontalot, users who downloaded that track or the entire pack found that they were not able to play this content in the game. Furthermore, downloading the pack meant that all 3 songs in the pack failed to load.

We're aware of this issue and are taking multiple steps to fix it. We are resubmitting the tracks to Sony today and hope to have fixed content up on the PlayStation store as soon as possible. Users will then be able to replace the broken tracks by re-downloading this content for no additional charge. If you don’t feel like re-downloading this content and can wait a week, the title update that is launching on 9/11 will fix it automatically. We appreciate your patience.
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Too little too late for Activision. I would have bought GH3 with the les paul LAST YEAR. Instead I just got another RB strat. It didn't help that I did buy GH3 last year only to have the guitar crap out on me within an hour of playing. It immediately went back to the store and left a very bad taste in my mouth. Anywho, looking forward to RB2 :D
 
[quote name='xeex']Sorry, don't have a link. I'm just reporting my own experience after renting the game this weekend. A patch (version 1.10) was released on Friday or Saturday that suddenly let me use the Strat in the game.

Maybe someone else could verify that.[/quote]
If that's true, then that's good news. I'm still waiting on GH3 to get RB support so I can just stick with game-only versions of GH games and not have any more guitars in here.
 
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