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I've yet to see anyone say that the app's and games will prove the kinect is worth it. We have said that a 100% install base will result in more games utilizing the device... that's called common sense.
Will they be better then Kinect 1.0? Most likely. Will they convert those who don't want motion control's? Who freaking cares.
It's extremely hard to prove something's "worth" to everyone, since everyone's desires in a console are different. There were games that were mind blowing on Kinect 1.0... Child of Eden specifically, and I cant wait to see what Tetsuya does with 2.0. (Assuming he goes back into the development role, which I heard he is taking a break from last year)
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That's one of the worst things about PS3 imo. For PS4 It's supposed to be fixed though since you'll be able to download a small amount and start playing right away while it continues downloading.For those getting a PS4 I really hope the download/install situation is better.
I started downloading MGS Rising (18gb) at 7 pm and I am just now at 55%!
That never happens on my 360.(
That's one of the worst things about PS3 imo. For PS4 It's supposed to be fixed though since you'll be able to download a small amount and start playing right away while it continues downloading.
I hope it does get better. Where I was anxious to play now I have to wait until tomorrow to do the install then play. 65%...
I hope it does get better. Where I was anxious to play now I have to wait until tomorrow to do the install then play. 65%...
It will most likely be leaps and bounds ahead of the ps3 speed. My Vita's download speed on the same internet connection is substantially faster, like 4-6 times the download speed of my ps3.For those getting a PS4 I really hope the download/install situation is better. I started downloading MGS Rising (18gb) at 7 pm and I am just now at 55%!That never happens on my 360.
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PS4 has a dedicated ARM processor that handles downloads and save power. You can choose to download either the single or multiplayer portion first and begin playing when the first few GBs are downloaded.
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Ok I wasn't opening the flood gates for the PS4 praise machine. Just saying that is extremely lacking. That and the fact that game updates are 3 and 4 gigs sometimes when they are never over a gig on the 360.
I had to make space on my PS3 and in my utility file there were 7 gigs worth of updates to Heavy Rain alone! Ridiculous.
I had to make space on my PS3 and in my utility file there were 7 gigs worth of updates to Heavy Rain alone! Ridiculous.
100% wrong.
Yeah, well, I bought these for my family and they sit unopened. I eventually sold or traded some in. I'm still stuck with a few though (Dance Central 2 is staring at me from my shelf right now). My daughter, who actually is a dancer, never wanted to play these dance games. She's actually at a dance camp right now and is one of the better dancers on her high school dance team. No interest in these games though. (Not to mention she would be horrified if I ever danced with her "and her friends"
).She did, however, the other day, out of the blue, suggest that she would like to play some Mario Kart (Wii) with my 5 year-old. A great time was had by all (and without a single bit of "motion" gaming by the way, WV Matsui). So while your experience is that these dance games have been great for your family, I'd counter that Nintendo couch-multiplayer games hold that position in mine (not just Mario Kart, but SSBB, Mario Party, and several others). My son and I have been playing Animal Crossing New Leaf daily together since release.
To bring this back around to the X1 - that is definitely not the system I would get for local multiplayer. There have been very few such experiences for us on the 360 (or even PS3 - LBP excepted).
Freaking fetus! No wonder your comments are so immature38
Yup we old! :lol:
. (Though seriously I'm wondering how you can remember playing the Atari at launch if you are that young - I barely remember it myself even though it was my first gaming system also).
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360 updates just cache the information, w a 5 mb limit. Any larger and they need multiple updates (which costs the dev more money to put out).
PS3 has no restrictions, so the patches are usually larger.
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I think with the 20+ million Kinect 1.0's that were sold - if something was going to be made innovative and popular for Kinect it would already be out that. There will probably be some experimentation with Kinect 2.0 but the most likely result will be more of the same. Wow, so in Mass Effect you can say something instead of choosing it on the dialog wheel. Not exactly what I would call "innovation" considering you're paying $100 for this thing ($150 when Kinect 1.0 was released!). Being able to verbally say what you could chose with a controller is not worth $100, this is especially true when you could do ALL that bullshit with a microphone that is included with the PS4. Hell, I have a Kinect and never use it for my games that are "better with Kinect". The only thing that Kinect gets used for are Kinect required games (in my h ouse, children's games).
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Kinect 1 wasn't a failure. It caused a lot of people to buy the 360 who would never have purchased a console before. I suppose I can only speak for what I've seen, but Kinect games we're really popular with people who game casually, or didn't game at all.
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There's a patch size limit on 360. This is why the 360 versions of PC games never get any of the cool PC updates (Monday Night Combat, Team Fortress 2, etc etc etc). There are very few games that get around this by offering the patch as DLC (Battlefield 3, Burnout Paradise, Kane & Lynch). The biggest patch for a game that I've seen was the 50ishmb one for MoH:Warfighter. The only patches that actually save to the HDD are ones over 4mb IIRC, and once the cache is full you'll have to sign out and redownload the patches for every new game you put in. This is a pain in the ass for me since I flip to different games...it will sign me out every damn time which pisses me off. Plus once 360 XBL goes down the patch improvements are gone forever for the titles that got pushed out of your cache(hoping they change this). I get why they designed it this way back in 05, but it's 2013 now...free game updates are the norm, not the exception. I would much rather have a big patch that I download once and keep on my HDD forever than a small one that signs me out every damn time I put the disc in.
He never said it was a failure, in fact he said 20 million units. All he said was that nothing truly innovative has been done with it, so more than likely nothing truly innovative, or anything that really adds to the gaming experience, will come out of Kinect 2. Probably should read the post before you get defensive.
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edit: Oops Aptanor already replied while I was typing out my comment.
What Aptanor said is pretty much what I initially typed. Truth is, I'm at least willing to admit that something MIGHT come from Kinect 2.0 but I really doubt much will. They outright lied about Kinect 1.0 capabilities prior to launch so anyone that goes into Kinect 2.0 and believes them should curb their enthusiasm and wait for the actual products to launch.
What Aptanor said is pretty much what I initially typed. Truth is, I'm at least willing to admit that something MIGHT come from Kinect 2.0 but I really doubt much will. They outright lied about Kinect 1.0 capabilities prior to launch so anyone that goes into Kinect 2.0 and believes them should curb their enthusiasm and wait for the actual products to launch.
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How did I get defensive? I also never said he stated it was a failure. I was just adding to his conversation.
Edit: the Funny thing about this is I meant to reply to the thread and not his post in general, but after seeing how many times he can throw the word "
" around to make it seem like a big deal it turned out to be funny.
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Well, to me, the "Atari" is the first home system - before they stuck numbers on it (the 2600). It was just the "Atari" when I was a kid. Not sure what you mean by 6 million. There was the original, then the 5200. It played cartridges and had 100's of games just like the NES that followed. My favorite system back then was the Colecovision though - what an awesome step up in graphics compared to the old Atari
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You should hear me in person, I sayHow did I get defensive? I also never said he stated it was a failure. I was just adding to his conversation.
Edit: the Funny thing about this is I meant to reply to the thread and not his post in general, but after seeing how many times he can throw the word "
so much that it was my kid's first word! 
I had a 2600. Nothing more disappointing than getting a game that requires the paddle and never getting the controller.Well, to me, the "Atari" is the first home system - before they stuck numbers on it (the 2600). It was just the "Atari" when I was a kid. Not sure what you mean by 6 million. There was the original, then the 5200. It played cartridges and had 100's of games just like the NES that followed. My favorite system back then was the Colecovision though - what an awesome step up in graphics compared to the old Atari
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I think Kinect 2.0 will get more use from developers than the first 1 simply because every X1 owner will have one and have to keep it hooked up. So there should be more Kinect specific games and more use of it in regular games (hopefully optional rather than forced).
But it's still moot for someone like me who loathes motion controls, as it can only be a negative for me (if it gets forced into regular games, and isn't optional in some etc.) as I'm not going to like them regardless of how much more accurate etc. it is than current gen motion controllers.
But being packed in should be good news for those who like motion controls as it should lead to more games--even if they aren't much different than current Kinect games.
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I think everyone is forgetting that its not a 100% installbase for third parties, because they also have ps4, wiiu and pc to think about (and current gen consoles at the moment).
The question is, will they put in the work to take advantage of one console addon when other ones dont. And if so, will it be first priority (dev for X1 thrn port to others) or will it be the "throw-on" perk after its developed for pc/ps4?
The question is, will they put in the work to take advantage of one console addon when other ones dont. And if so, will it be first priority (dev for X1 thrn port to others) or will it be the "throw-on" perk after its developed for pc/ps4?
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That's especially true the first few years when the install bases are not great. They might have sold 20+ million Kinect 1.0's but they won't sell that many 2.0's in the first year.
Just saw that you can't turn the lightbar off on the front of the DS4. Definitely don't see the benefit in that bar without the camera. They had to have been thinking about including it far into development. It basically serves no purpose now.
And don't tell me about the showing health thing. Who is going to look at the back of the controller while getting blasted by infected in the Last of Us?
Not saying this is a huge issue but it definitely shows what they were thinking in development and how far along they were when they decided to not include the PS4 camera.
And don't tell me about the showing health thing. Who is going to look at the back of the controller while getting blasted by infected in the Last of Us?
Not saying this is a huge issue but it definitely shows what they were thinking in development and how far along they were when they decided to not include the PS4 camera.
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Well, to me, the "Atari" is the first home system - before they stuck numbers on it (the 2600). It was just the "Atari" when I was a kid. Not sure what you mean by 6 million. There was the original, then the 5200. It played cartridges and had 100's of games just like the NES that followed. My favorite system back then was the Colecovision though - what an awesome step up in graphics compared to the old Atari .
I was making fun of you Atrai aged folks I actually need to add Atrai to my systems. Pitfall pissed me off so much!
.I was making fun of you Atrai aged folks
I actually need to add Atrai to my systems. Pitfall pissed me off so much!In a tweet to a follower, Shuhei Yoshida revealed that the PlayStation 4 controller's light cannot be turned off – even to save battery.
The light sensor is used in conjunction with the PlayStation 4 camera to detect movement. Some developers also plan to use the sensor for game mechanics. For example, Killzone: Shadow Fall will use the sensor to display the player's health.
While initial reactions to this news has been negative, it is worth noting that editor Matt Helgeson had a favorable experience with the new Dual Shock in his hands-on preview.
[Source: Twitter via Gamespot]
Our TakeThe Dual Shock 4 light sensor's "always-on" policy is leaving some gamers wondering what to do in the case of reflective TV screens. After all, a colorful light can show up as a distracting, reflective glare. And how energy efficient can the controller be with a large light endlessly using up power? The real question is, since the PlayStation 4 camera doesn't come standard, what's the point of keeping the light sensor on at all times? Whether or not Sony reconsiders adding an option to turn off the light is a question that will be answered this holiday season.
The light sensor is used in conjunction with the PlayStation 4 camera to detect movement. Some developers also plan to use the sensor for game mechanics. For example, Killzone: Shadow Fall will use the sensor to display the player's health.
While initial reactions to this news has been negative, it is worth noting that editor Matt Helgeson had a favorable experience with the new Dual Shock in his hands-on preview.
[Source: Twitter via Gamespot]
Our TakeThe Dual Shock 4 light sensor's "always-on" policy is leaving some gamers wondering what to do in the case of reflective TV screens. After all, a colorful light can show up as a distracting, reflective glare. And how energy efficient can the controller be with a large light endlessly using up power? The real question is, since the PlayStation 4 camera doesn't come standard, what's the point of keeping the light sensor on at all times? Whether or not Sony reconsiders adding an option to turn off the light is a question that will be answered this holiday season.
Last I checked, this is a XBone thread. Why do you keep bringing up the PS4? It's like you are obsessed with it, and to repeatedly post about it only does disservice to your opinions about the XBone.
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Wow you are really reaching now. I seriously doubt it'll drastically effect battery life or cause any significant glare issues (it's not even that bright).
A lot of folks on Gaf seem to think so
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=616981
A lot of folks on Gaf seem to think so
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=616981
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only time you would see a reflection of ps4 light on controller would be like during black load screens
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i doudt it will use more power the 360 controller has a light on it but that led light might have some tech power draining in it seeing its used on ps eye
i doudt it will use more power the 360 controller has a light on it but that led light might have some tech power draining in it seeing its used on ps eye
That light is much bigger than the 360 light. It will be just as bright as the move sphere which is pretty bright in the dark.
I think the point is that it's useless and for some annoying with dark play or a glossy TV.
It's a shame the tech was wasted.
That light is much bigger than the 360 light. It will be just as bright as the move sphere which is pretty bright in the dark.
I think the point is that it's useless and for some annoying with dark play or a glossy TV.
It's a shame the tech was wasted.
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Says the guy who has the biggest boner for Kinect 2.0 :lol:. Last time I checked that thing can't be turned off either, the console won't even FUNCTION without it. That doesn't seem to bother you so much. Anyway, I'm sure the light on the DS4 will be patched in a firmware update so you can turn it off if you want, no biggie.
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I can tell you where to buy some electrical tape....
Says the guy who has the biggest boner for Kinect 2.0 :lol:. Last time I checked that thing can't be turned off either, the console won't even FUNCTION without it. That doesn't seem to bother you so much. Anyway, I'm sure the light on the DS4 will be patched in a firmware update so you can turn it off if you want, no biggie.
My Kinect isn't shinining aing light at me! Glad you always attack me not the issue that I bring up...
My Kinect isn't shinining a
ing light at me! Glad you always attack me not the issue that I bring up...
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For someone who says he hates trolls, yet doesn't realize he's one of the biggest around, you're pretty pathetic. What's even more sad is that you act this way while you're pushing 40 years old.
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seeing that thing is built into ps4 controller i really do think sony was planning to package in ps eye with the system and once they seen the backlash ms was getting because of that they changed their stance on it. No way you include a tech in the controller if it was only for a optional add on.
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The light does look annoying. Hopefully they make an option to turn it off. I'd just cover it up if I had to but that's certainly not ideal.
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they have already said kinect can be turned off but still has to be connected to system so it hears the xbox on/off command
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he is also the guy that turns video game convo in too personal things. he has said some nasty things to people on this website
he is also the guy that turns video game convo in too personal things. he has said some nasty things to people on this website
Seems like it... And who is anyone to judge me for who I am in an Internet forum. Everyone needs a place to get away from it all. I have an extremely busy life and being able to debate and talk to folks on this site help me deal with all that I do on a daily basis. But apparently I should have been working harder at impressing this likes of him all this time...
I was just trying to bring up one bad point about the PS4. If this was the case with something with the X1 it would be bashed pretty bad in this thread.
Seems like it... And who is anyone to judge me for who I am in an Internet forum. Everyone needs a place to get away from it all. I have an extremely busy life and being able to debate and talk to folks on this site help me deal with all that I do on a daily basis. But apparently I should have been working harder at impressing this likes of him all this time...
I was just trying to bring up one bad point about the PS4. If this was the case with something with the X1 it would be bashed pretty bad in this thread.
Mako1215
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Jesus Christ would all you drama queens stfu. Every time I come here to look at something useful it's filled with nothing but bullshit and whining. /rant /offtopic
On topic.
Just put some electrical tape over the light, and just move the Kinect so it's out of the way and you see nothing.
On topic.
Just put some electrical tape over the light, and just move the Kinect so it's out of the way and you see nothing.
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you can't talk about anything positive about x1 here you will get bashed even if this is a xbox one forum
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