So from an entertainment perspective, what's the Super Bowl you want to see? Mine is pretty easy since I hate the Patriots and now can't stand the 49ers. I wouldn't mind seeing Seattle destroy New England, but I don't want them to make it at all. At least with Denver and Seattle, the winner would be someone I want to see get it.
With that logic the Niners should have no problem with Seattle and I don't see that being the case.
I want to see Seattle and Denver just because it's two teams that "aren't always in the Super Bowl". If Denver is able to get by new England and then gets dominated by Seattle (assuming they make it), then so be it. If Seattle is that good, then it should be enjoyable enough to see that defense and a QB in his second year win a Super Bowl.
Over the last 8 games they only have the best point differential in the league, 37 plays over 20 yards - best in the league, percentage of drives that result in scoring 48% - 2nd in the league.
That's the song that was playing. I was just joking around. It is ridiculous in the portrayal of fans. That crown would need riot police on hand.
Some people do but I don't equate Superbowl wins to being the greatest ever. Titles in football are more of a function of the team and coaching than individuals. It's an easier argument for guys like Michael Jordan since basketball is so star driven. In football its deeper than just quarterback. Trent Dilfer has as many titles as Peyton.
I disagree - sort of. Football is definitely a team sport and it wasn't Peyton's fault that the Ravens got a miracle 70 yard TD in the 4th quarter of the AFC Championship game but whatever - he still could have won the game in OT and the Broncos should have been ahead by more than 7 at that point anyway.
I totally disagree with this, plenty of merely just good quarterbacks have won Super Bowls, Eli and Flaaco being prime examples, even Aikman to a certain extent. Elway wouldn't have even gotten his Super Bowls if it wasn't for the running game late in his career.
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No that does not make sense, Javery. Please explain.
He is. If you had 2 minutes and no timeouts to win a SB there are probably 7 or 8 QBs I'd pick over him to try and win the game. It doesn't mean he's not great it just means he isn't in the conversation for best QB ever.Marino in the second-tier of QBs? The
He was the third best QB even during his era. I'd take Montana and Elway over him in a nanosecond.
I don't know if anybody heard about this story before but Bill Walsh once explored a trade to get the rights to John Elway before the 1983 draft. Pretty crazy but true story.
Elway couldn't win it all until Terrell Davis came along who some people argue is HOF worthy. Marino had only Clayton and Dupper as his receivers. I can't think of any running back he had. Not his fault.
Yeah people forget that a knock against Marino is that he wanted to throw the ball too much and is still criticized for not using the run game to control game tempo.
Agreed
But why is it just that HE came up short? Did his RB read all the holes right? Did his linemen provide good protection? Did his receivers run great routes and not drop any balls? Did the coaches call the right plays? Did the defense play to the best of their ability? This is what people mean when they say it's a team effort. Acting like nobody else had a hand in the outcome (how about even the other team? Did they execute a perfect game plan?) Is moronic.
Star players will always be the focal point---don't be ignorant of that.
You Pats fans are acting like Manning doesn't have a Super Bowl Ring already. The "he should have done more" is rich coming from fans of a team that went undefeated in the regular season and lost the big one.
Agreed.
Yeah - he was on those SB teams, right? I think they only overlapped for 2-3 years but Rod Smith was a good receiver.
That's the whole point though. The better teams shouldn't have to execute a perfect game plan in order to win. It is the underdogs that have to play perfect in all 3 phases plus have an awesome game plan from the coaches (like the Giants in 2007). Manning was 1 and done a TON of times and has had the #1 seed a bunch of times yet consistently comes up short. He is the leader and fair or not he is the one that will get all the glory and all the blame and history will judge him accordingly.
Probably... because Super Bowls matter. Although he had The Drive in 1987 which was instantly legendary.
dude you okay? did you hit your head? A good team/ coach goes a long way...cheating goes even further.
He's the only undrafted WR to ever break 10k yards receiving. I'd say he's in that top tier of great WRs that is currently jamming up the Hall of Fame ballots.
Not quite. The entire team is involved in his playoff losses... the entire team isn't involved in passing and scoring records. false equivalence
Right because it doesn't take 11 offensive players to contribute to offensive statistics/records and it doesn't take a solid defensive to make sure you get offensive possessions.
Do you even recognize that you're making a case on behalf of dumb fans? Yes, star players are the focal point...for people who don't have an understanding of football being a team sport and success being dictated by more than one person. Personally, I am beyond that level of comprehension...and I would hope others would strive to be as well. But if "Herp, derp...Peyton choked!" is all you can come up with, then enjoy life among the knuckle draggers.
Because Peyton is the smartest guy in the room ... and the field ... and the universe! Don't you know how smart he is? He is so smart because he studies! No one studies like he does! When he makes a mistake it is probably not his fault because he is so smart and smart people are smart and don't make mistakes because they are smart!
