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Syntax Error said:
Hell no. I'd rather waste a weekend trying to defeat the Hairy Fire Demon of Doom a thousand times than watch some squealing high-pitched Swedish guy do it once on YouTube. :speaktothehand:
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Yeah I'm not a Youtube Let's Play fan at all. These damned kids! *shakes fist*

Sorry but watching someone act like an idiot and play a character just doesn't cut it for me. And just straight watching people play most games is like watching paint dry. I either play it or don't. Occasionally I'll consult a guide but I just don't have the patience for cult of personality internet popularity contest nonsense.

 
By "Let's Play" I meant a gameplay video, of which there are plenty on YouTube. I also can't stand the star broadcasters, I just wanted to see how somebody beat that big demon on the ramparts.

Is Let's Play a dirty wordphrase? I feel like I've triggered something here.
 
spoderman said:
Did Let's Play make Five Nights at Freddy's popular? If so, I hate Let's Play
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Pretty much.

Also, whoever said when you get good at Dark Souls is becomes easy is a bit off. The vast majority of the game becomes easy, but fuck Anor Londo's boss and New Londo Ruins. I dunno, it took a while for me to really enjoy Dark Souls as well, I actually gave it up for a long time about 2/3 of the way through the game, but I picked it up and finished it last year.

 
Syntax Error said:
Dark Souls disinterested me within about an hour. I probably should have just skipped it entirely because "OMG it's SOOOOOO HARD!!!" isn't a selling point for me. I ain't got time for replaying a fight ten times just to go on to the next brutal fight; I got other shit that needs playing. But everyone raved about it and started moaning strangely when it came up so I figured I'd give it a whirl.

But I can accept that most people think it's the cat's meow and that, in this instance, I'm like the weirdo who hated Portal, Borderlands 2, Dragon Age Origins or Skyrim.
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Initially the game seems impossible and it does start out as a big uphill battle. But once you understand how the game and the enemies work it gets more interesting. To quote my Steam "review", you "feel the biggest sense of achievement upon completion".

I've played a lot of games that were made for the sake of being hard and I don't enjoy them. Dark Souls is fair and you can take on areas with a partner to make things easier.

 
I'll agree with the others that Syntax is a weirdo.

Seriously though, DS really is one of the more fair hard games as Carlton pointed out. I think the most frustrating thing with the game is while it is technically quote-unquote open world, you really kinda need to go to places in a certain order to be most efficient and cut down on needless death. There are certain areas you can access early on that really are better off visited later once you have certain items and/or better gear. That is where a guide becomes most helpful in telling you where you should/shouldn't go. Aside from that, I wouldn't say the game is easy, but like anything once you have more experience with, it definitely becomes more natural and the less you have to think, the easier it will feel. The single biggest tip in my mind is find a weapon with a move set you really like and improve it. Any of the weapons are effective, it's not like you need legendary gear, but you really need a move set that fits your play style. I tried going with what some people were swearing was OP at the time like the Great Scythe and while it can do a crapton of damage, I was constantly dying. I prefer the Gargoyle or regular Halberds and feel very comfortable with them. Same with the Balder Side Sword, I love it (even though it took a bazillion hours to get).  And yeah, it's pretty rewarding once it all finally clicks, but for many, the frustration you have to initially muddle through just isn't worth it and that's completely understandable.

 
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sunasun said:
Remakes on the drawing board for 2015 include Thunderbirds, Sliders, All in the Family, Bewitched, Greatest American Hero, Married with Children, The Courtship of Eddie’s Father, with Willie Garson, and The Odd Couple, this time starring Thomas Lennon and Matthew Perry in the roles made famous by Tony Randall and Jack Klugman and, before them, Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau.
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I would be totally down with a Sliders reboot, as long as it's not on SyFy again. Anything they have a direct hand in influencing seems to turn to crap. :( The Odd Couple has already started airing, I have not heard...well, good or bad about it. I feel like it might go the way of Bad Judge. You see a couple promos for it on TV, next thing you know, you're on Amazon a couple weeks later and seeing the complete series box set on sale and you start to think, "oh, the already started airing that?" Looking forward to the Heroes reboot, though.

 
Carlmundo said:
Initially the game seems impossible and it does start out as a big uphill battle. But once you understand how the game and the enemies work it gets more interesting. To quote my Steam "review", you "feel the biggest sense of achievement upon completion".
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I guess that part of it is that I generally don't find video games rewarding in a "sense of achievement" sort of way. Entertaining, sure and there's a reward in having successfully amused yourself for a period, but I'm not one to usually think "Man, I feel fulfilled now that I've killed that dragon" or "I've done something special in getting good at killing goblins". In other words, if the game play or story or world creation or something isn't grabbing me soon in then I'm usually not inclined to try and push through and wait for the entertainment to happen.

Again, that's a "me" thing and I know there's plenty of people who get a great deal of satisfaction from mastering the ins and outs of bad-guy slaying. No judgment there -- life's too short to seriously worry about how others enjoy their games.

I'll let it sit there though since I don't need this to be a "Everyone shower me with posts trying to convince me while I say Nuh-Uh" sort of thing. If I wanted to attention whore, I'd mention that today's my birthday :D/

 
Let me ask a question. I know what WGN is, but how do you become a member or such? I just notice WGN people who got blah get blah key. Just wondering is all....

 
Syntax Error said:
Dark Souls disinterested me within about an hour. I probably should have just skipped it entirely because "OMG it's SOOOOOO HARD!!!" isn't a selling point for me. I ain't got time for replaying a fight ten times just to go on to the next brutal fight; I got other shit that needs playing. But everyone raved about it and started moaning strangely when it came up so I figured I'd give it a whirl.

But I can accept that most people think it's the cat's meow and that, in this instance, I'm like the weirdo who hated Portal, Borderlands 2, Dragon Age Origins or Skyrim.
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motoki said:
Yeah I'm the same. Every time I see 2hard4u I just tune out. My Inner Big Fish Grandma ain't got to fo dat. So many indies seem to think that's a huge selling point too. I'll look at generic pixel platformer #3,648 and think 'Hmm I guess it could be interesting maybe kinda sorta' and then see "brutal" and "challenging" and I'm like NEEEEEEXT.

I actually bought DS a while back, even got the limited Edition in a MysterD box shipped in from the UK because it was cheap one time. I suppose I should play it someday just to say I did (after I jump through hoops to patch it because Japan :roll:) because everyone thinks it's the bee's knees, but I'm really not expecting to love it.

I'm expecting I'll need to play like 6 Hidden Object and 4 Match 3 games to cleanse my palate when I'm done.
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Dark Souls is challenging, and has a steep learning curve, but once you understand it, it's not that bad for the most part (especially if you use summons). Honestly, I love Dark Souls about as much as anyone, and the difficulty itself isn't why. I really like the atmosphere, the world, the exploration and secrets, and the lore. Interestingly, the point of the game (according to the director) was not at all to be difficult; the difficulty level just fit the game so that's how it turned out. Dark Souls has only been pushed as a difficult game once people started associating the difficulty level with it, making it a marketing tactic. This is why (although I still really liked it) Dark SOuls 2 was such a disappointment. The B team at From I don't think really understood what made DS1 so good, and focused on some of the things people liked (making the story purposely vague and making the game difficult) without getting the important details that actually made the game great.

 
Kain said:
I would be totally down with a Sliders reboot, as long as it's not on SyFy again. Anything they have a direct hand in influencing seems to turn to crap. :( The Odd Couple has already started airing, I have not heard...well, good or bad about it. I feel like it might go the way of Bad Judge. You see a couple promos for it on TV, next thing you know, you're on Amazon a couple weeks later and seeing the complete series box set on sale and you start to think, "oh, the already started airing that?" Looking forward to the Heroes reboot, though.
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Have you seen Parallels? It's a movie/potential pilot on netflix and very similar to Sliders.

 
sunasun said:
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Remakes on the drawing board for 2015 include [...] Married with Children...
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Bleah. Married With Children was a product of its time: a subversive push against the saccharine family sit-coms of the 80's with their Very Special Episodes and family-friendly TGIF entertainment. For that it worked, just as Rosanne worked at depicting an imperfect family more relatable than the Huxtables or Tanners. But we don't need a reboot of it for the same reason that we don't need a reboot of Seinfeld or Friends -- their influence is already in every sitcom coming out these days and why Modern Family isn't the same show as Step-By-Step.

 
sunasun said:
After a 13 year commercial break, the xfiles is returning.

http://www.fox.com/the-x-files/article/the-next-mind-bending-chapter-is-coming

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Remakes on the drawing board for 2015 include Thunderbirds, Sliders, All in the Family, Bewitched, Greatest American Hero, Married with Children, The Courtship of Eddie’s Father, with Willie Garson, and The Odd Couple, this time starring Thomas Lennon and Matthew Perry in the roles made famous by Tony Randall and Jack Klugman and, before them, Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau.
http://o.canada.com/entertainment/television/remakes-and-reboots-mostly-fail-but-tv-still-loves-them-with-video
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It's just like MJ coming out of retirement to play pro ball again. Nooooooo! Don't taint my precious memories of the X-Files with a remake. I'm still too fragile and bitter over the cancellation of Firefly.

 
Palinn said:
It's just like MJ coming out of retirement to play pro ball again. Nooooooo! Don't taint my precious memories of the X-Files with a remake. I'm still too fragile and bitter over the cancellation of Firefly.
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Hey, you got lucky. Serenity could've been so, so, so much worse than it was.

[Obligatory Shiny.gif]
 
spoderman said:
... RE6's DLC is completely skippable, it's all MP DLC that barely anyone (if anyone) plays anymore. While it's true RE5's DLC is coming to Steam soon, that price mistake was a hell of a deal if you had none of the games. This is coming from someone who actually played the games..

Anyway, I have none of the RE6 DLC and never once have been tempted to buy any of it.
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Huh, well dammit. I thought it included some story DLC. :(

 
Foxhack said:
Huh, well dammit. I thought it included some story DLC. :(
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Nope. RE5 has story DLC, RE6 doesn't. I would recommend buying RE5's DLC at 75% off (if it's not free for previous owners, which it likely won't be).. but not RE6's DLC.

The DLC for pretty much every RE sucks, except for RE5 and Operation Raccoon City

 
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Dark Souls is essentially an action rogue-lite. If you don't enjoy games like Rogue Legacy (platforming rogue-lite), or Binding of Issac (twin stick rogue-lite), or Legend of Grimlock (first person rogue-lite), you probably won't get anything from it. It's not really that it's "hard", they just all requires patience to figure out what to do. It's definitely a niche, but it fills it very well.

 
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You watch yourself, Firefly is sacred, gorramit. Stay shiny, Browncoats!

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

 
- Glenn - said:
Not really trying to be 'that guy' but I have to point out that the term is 'roguelike'. Because all games like that are similar to the game Rogue.
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warreni said:
Dude, I'm totally that guy every day. It's nice to shift the burden to someone else for a change.
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Sorry, guys, but I didn't coin the term.

Steam rogue-lites

The term "roguelike-like" or "rogue-lite" has been used to distinguish these games that possess some, but not all, of the Berlin Interpretation features from those that exactly meet the Berlin roguelike definition.

Roguelike versus roguelite

Rock, Paper, Shotgun roguelites

Though I'll admit, Binding of Isaac is probably considered a rogue-like and not a rogue-lite.

 
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elessar123 said:
Still more relevant than shoes.
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I liked that conversation though :(

Thanks to everybody who participated in the Dark Souls discussion today. It got me through a particularly dull day at work.

If you were bored by it, I have no words for you. Or sympathy either. This is my way of getting revenge for all that Tebowspeak you all subjected us to all those months ago.

Yes. I have a long memory. And a list of grudges.
 
elessar123 said:
The term "roguelike-like" or "rogue-lite" has been used to distinguish these games that possess some, but not all, of the Berlin Interpretation features from those that exactly meet the Berlin roguelike definition.
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And who says that video games aren't fun?

Hello, ladies. My friend and I were just discussing the Berlin Interpretation of video game roguelikes and wondered if you cared to join us...

 
dark souls is only 'hard' because the industry has gone soft since gaming went mainstream. if you grew up gaming in the pre-internet world you know what I'm talking about. once you know what your doing you can have a max melee build BEFORE you beat Sen's Fortress making the rest of the game a cake walk. speaking of the industry, I see Sony putting bloodborne in real live tv commercials. i feel sorry for all the casuals who buy this off of hype without any prior souls experience...
 
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leaderWON said:
if you grew up gaming in the pre-internet world you know what I'm talking about.
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I did. The fact that I grew up gaming in the pre-internet era is precisely the reason why I now have better things to do than spend all summer trying to beat the Fire Robot Hovercraft level of Warrior Sloths III. I'm not 13 any longer.

I assume they've "gone soft" because people with two kids and a mortgage now make up a significant part of their revenue stream.

 
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leaderWON said:
dark souls is only 'hard' because the industry has gone soft since gaming went mainstream. if you grew up gaming in the pre-internet world you know what I'm talking about. once you know what your doing you can have a max melee build BEFORE you beat Sen's Fortress making the rest of the game a cake walk. speaking of the industry, I see Sony putting bloodborne in real live tv commercials. i feel sorry for all the casuals who buy this off of hype without any prior souls experience...
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Eh, maybe.

But I think there are a lot of folks like motoki and Syntax that are old and don't really have any interest in doing something "hardcore" for its own sake. This almost certainly also applies to me, although I personally haven't tried it. I have a key I got from Amazon a while ago that I haven't activated because the game screams, "You'll hate this!" to me.

Just throwing this in on the basis of everything I've read about it and zero direct personal experience, I don't believe Dark Souls is something that could be called a "rogue-like" (whatever that means) simply because it appears be a really difficult action RPG as opposed to something like FTL or Desktop Dungeons or Dungeons of Dredmor or the several hundred other things on Steam that I think most of us can agree would be well-suited to that label.

Nevertheless, like several of the others of us past their prime on this forum, I have little patience for things that are hard for the sake of being hard anymore. It was okay when you (in the pre-internet days you allude to) had only a few games or one to play for months at a time to struggle and try over and over again to accomplish some ridiculous task only to inevitably fail and wait until you had something else to play, but even the unCAGliest amongst us now has a meaty backlog of other, possibly better or at least more entertaining games available to pick from.

EDIT: In fairness to other people who aren't me, I'll also add that I probably never had much patience for this kind of thing. Back in the days of the original Wasteland on my C64, I frantically ejected the 5 1/4" floppy from my 1541 to avoid having my Desert Rangers permanently erased when my party wiped.

I will agree that the advertising does not appear to suggest even the faintest of connections between Bloodborne and the Dark Souls games. Hell, I learned they were related from reading this thread.

 
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I think this thread in general skews a little older.  Buying a ton of games just for the hell of it with no intent of playing them is a sport for financially established people.   If you're backlogging bundle fodder while staving off scurvy from your Ramen noodles diet, you should probably prioritize your spending better.

 
warreni said:
Eh, maybe.

But I think there are a lot of folks like motoki and Syntax that are old and don't really have any interest in doing something "hardcore" for its own sake. This almost certainly also applies to me, although I personally haven't tried it. I have a key I got from Amazon a while ago that I haven't activated because the game screams, "You'll hate this!" to me.
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Man, if you're not going to use that Amazon key, I'll take it. I'd love an excuse to run through Dark Souls 1 again.

 
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