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This thread will attempt to provide a place to discuss past/present/future PC gaming deals. While mainly focusing on Steam games, any standout sales may also be presented. I will not be updating every Daily/Weekly/etc. sale. The tools to help individuals become a smarter shopper will be provided below.

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Anyone else get "Too many requests" errors on the market? Only seems to show up when trying to view a card's page.

I can only suspect it is from Steam Economy Enhancer trying to pull prices for hundreds of items at once.
Yeah I think this is the problem I have with SEE. It uses a lot of bandwidth and is pretty laggy, I think it is trying to look up the prices of everything in my inventory at once and eventually gets blocked by Steam for making too many requests in a short period of time.

 
XCom 2 players; is Shen's DLC worth getting i.e. does it make for a better first play through or help with subsequent play throughs? I wrote off getting the other 2 DLCs were cosmetics and a random boss generator that had the habit of spawning fights at inopportune times.
I wouldnt write off the other 2 dlc just because they are cosmetic. Alot of the basis for the workshop items like entire character packs are those dlc packs, so without those you can miss out on alot of workshop content

 
It got me to upgrade... *shrug*

And if you want any of their play anywhere games that upgrade is going to be pretty much required.

Hey at least there's no family/character name with odd naming convention going on with Windows 10.
There are just too many horror stories for me to make the jump any time soon. A close friend of mine has a nice, brand new laptop that came loaded with it and a recent update completely fucked it up. Took a full reinstall of the OS and problems still persisted, and I heard similar stories from multiple people about updates inexplicably screwing things up on a semi-regular basis.

I always stick with the most reliable OS for gaming and overall stability, and for the moment 7 takes the cake there. Maybe someday 10 will be stable enough to warrant me making the switch, but for the foreseeable future... nah.

This is the most up to date statistic I could find, and granted it is for business (that's all I could really find), I'm sure it's relatively accurate to home use as well.

2017%20Operating%20System%20share%20in%20Businesses.png


That's why it seems a bit odd if they insisted on making high profile games exclusives. Some people will make the switch, sure, but MOST people aren't gonna buy (or even pirate) a new OS and make the switch simply for a game or two. That's a ridiculously massive audience they're alienating there... Kind of ridiculous, lmao.

Is that real? Wow... and some of those are way too easy common... can't believe it. 'People' is that hard to spell? Nanny? WTF?
Having grown up in Hawaii, I can verify that most peopel are really bad at spelling there.

 
There are just too many horror stories for me to make the jump any time soon. A close friend of mine has a nice, brand new laptop that came loaded with it and a recent update completely fucked it up. Took a full reinstall of the OS and problems still persisted, and I heard similar stories from multiple people about updates inexplicably screwing things up on a semi-regular basis.

I always stick with the most reliable OS for gaming and overall stability, and for the moment 7 takes the cake there. Maybe someday 10 will be stable enough to warrant me making the switch, but for the foreseeable future... nah.

This is the most up to date statistic I could find, and granted it is for business (that's all I could really find), I'm sure it's relatively accurate to home use as well.

2017%20Operating%20System%20share%20in%20Businesses.png


That's why it seems a bit odd if they insisted on making high profile games exclusives. Some people will make the switch, sure, but MOST people aren't gonna buy (or even pirate) a new OS and make the switch simply for a game or two. That's a ridiculously massive audience they're alienating there... Kind of ridiculous, lmao.




Having grown up in Hawaii, I can verify that most peopel are really bad at spelling there.
Business numbers are the worst stats to use because businesses are tied to multi year computer leases and software licenses so that tend to hold on to older OSs that they know are stable for their needs. Overall users it's around 50% using 7 and around 30% using 10. When many of those businesses migrate to 10 in the next few years those numbers will likely flip which is why it doesn't make sense for them to focus any energy or money on making games compatible with older OSs. Also, from a business standpoint with the windows store, you don't want to have a store with apps or games that are only compatible with 1 OS, but available for sale to people who own a different, older OS. It just causes unnecessary issues that likely would bring very little additional income.
 
Those upcoming 18-core i9 processors better work w/ Windows 3.1...

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Same goes for those upcoming Ryzen 32-core processors.

 
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Business numbers are the worst stats to use because businesses are tied to multi year computer leases and software licenses so that tend to hold on to older OSs that they know are stable for their needs. Overall users it's around 50% using 7 and around 30% using 10. When many of those businesses migrate to 10 in the next few years those numbers will likely flip which is why it doesn't make sense for them to focus any energy or money on making games compatible with older OSs. Also, from a business standpoint with the windows store, you don't want to have a store with apps or games that are only compatible with 1 OS, but available for sale to people who own a different, older OS. It just causes unnecessary issues that likely would bring very little additional income.
Yeah, I know those aren't the best statistics but I wasn't able to find home use stats. Did you find any? Scratch that, you were pretty close. Home use is about 49% for 7 and 26% for 10. That's including non Windows OSs, but close enough.

On the business level it makes sense, but it's just odd from a gaming market perspective. It's almost akin to Xbox or Sony releasing an Xbox One 2 and PS4 2 that are required to play new games. Not the best analogy, but the end result is a required extra purchase, switch to something new, and taking the 100% of their market looking to buy those games and cut it down to below 50%. It just seems mindless to cut your audience in half, because so many people who would have bought some of these games (myself included, if Forza 6 supported 7 I'd likely buy it on launch) will just completely write them off.

Is what it is, it's just disappointing from the gamer's perspective.

 
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Well I've got my W10 from that free W8 transfer and I don't have any kind of horror stories to tell, but for example my gf had some issues with her XB1 controller locking up the pc and there's also that ugly bug that changes your color profile to the default one.

But hey, maybe I'm happy to be in W10 because of what a nightmare W8 was.

By the way, BF1 got a new patch today so be sure to update to be ready for the #FridayNightBattlefield: https://www.battlefield.com/news/update-notes/may-update

Have you guys tried playing the Operations mode?

 
Yeah, I know those aren't the best statistics but I wasn't able to find home use stats. Did you find any?

On the business level it makes sense, but it's just odd from a gaming market perspective. It's almost akin to Xbox or Sony releasing an Xbox One 2 and PS4 2 that are required to play new games. Not the best analogy, but the end result is a required extra purchase, switch to something new, and taking the 100% of their market looking to buy those games and cut it down to below 50%. It just seems mindless to cut your audience in half, because so many people who would have bought some of these games (myself included, if Forza 6 supported 7 I'd likely buy it on launch) will just completely write them off.

Is what it is, it's just disappointing from the gamer's perspective.
Well, IMO Microsoft did better than that. They put out a PS4 2 and then said "HEY EVERYONE, HERE IS A FREE PS4 2 COMPLETELY FREE AND YOU HAVE LIKE FOREVER TO CLAIM IT AND INSTALL IT AND USE IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE A PS3 OR PS2, WE'LL STILL GIVE IT TO YOU FREE."

And yet, some people didn't want the PS4 2 because they heard stories or they don't like change or I'm sure some just liked their PS2 or PS3 better, and that's fine. But you don't really get to complain when the PS4 2 gets a game that they didn't make it backwards compatible to your PS2 because you like your PS2 better when you could have had a free PS4 2.

That's the way I see it.

I'm thankful they port over these games even if its just to the Windows 10 store because that saves me money from having to buy an XBox One to play them. And I have no problem buying a console to play console exclusive games if I really want to play a certain game.

I can't imagine Microsoft expects the people who refused a free Windows 10 upgrade to be big spenders on the Windows Store. I know CAG is an outlier, but I don't think I've ever heard MysterD run out and buy a game when it gets ported despite him spending years complaining about that game not being on PC.

 
By the way, BF1 got a new patch today so be sure to update to be ready for the #FridayNightBattlefield: https://www.battlefield.com/news/update-notes/may-update

Have you guys tried playing the Operations mode?
  • Changes to bayonet charge:
o Removed damage reduction while in charge. Weapons will now hit charging players for normal damage.

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Well, IMO Microsoft did better than that. They put out a PS4 2 and then said "HEY EVERYONE, HERE IS A FREE PS4 2 COMPLETELY FREE AND YOU HAVE LIKE FOREVER TO CLAIM IT AND INSTALL IT AND USE IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE A PS3 OR PS2, WE'LL STILL GIVE IT TO YOU FREE."

And yet, some people didn't want the PS4 2 because they heard stories or they don't like change or I'm sure some just liked their PS2 or PS3 better, and that's fine. But you don't really get to complain when the PS4 2 gets a game that they didn't make it backwards compatible to your PS2 because you like your PS2 better when you could have had a free PS4 2.

That's the way I see it.

I'm thankful they port over these games even if its just to the Windows 10 store because that saves me money from having to buy an XBox One to play them. And I have no problem buying a console to play console exclusive games if I really want to play a certain game.

I can't imagine Microsoft expects the people who refused a free Windows 10 upgrade to be big spenders on the Windows Store. I know CAG is an outlier, but I don't think I've ever heard MysterD run out and buy a game when it gets ported despite him spending years complaining about that game not being on PC.
No need to get snarky about it. It's just a difference of opinion.

Unfounded "horror stories" may not hold a lot of weight, but there's no denying the fact that every new OS is fraught with massive issues. 10 certainly hasn't been the mess that many others have been (ME, Vista, 8, etc), but it's silly to ignore the issues that there have been. I mean let's be real, the free upgrade was agreeing to beta test, and even now that it's NOT a free upgrade, people still frequently have massive issues with 10 that just plain don't exist on 7. If you wanna put it that way, it's like Xbone and PS4 said "Hey, we have a new console version that we're still tweaking and it's kind of a mess, but you can have it for free right now if you feel like dealing with our beta issues and wanna play our new exclusive games that require it! Oh, by the way, there are no hardware upgrades and miniscule software ones. Great offer, right?"

I do absolutely agree that them porting some games over is still awesome, even if it's to 10 only. That's a lot better than the alternative for sure. I just don't agree with the errant analogy that sticking with the more stable OS that can play all but a handful of exclusive M$ games is ignorantly sticking to something like a PS2 over a new console out of stubbornness, though.

 
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I can't imagine Microsoft expects the people who refused a free Windows 10 upgrade to be big spenders on the Windows Store. I know CAG is an outlier, but I don't think I've ever heard MysterD run out and buy a game when it gets ported despite him spending years complaining about that game not being on PC.
In the old days before horrible business practices got more prevalent (i.e. lots of DLC's/expansions/Season Passes; and the patch-later + release-now mentality) and with Steam + Bundle Sites devaluing the hell out of games, I bought still a decent amount of first-console games on their week of PC-later release - including GTA3, Fable 1: TLC + Jade Empire: Special Edition.

I think the last game that was a console-to-PC port that I bought pretty quickly upon its PC release was FFX+X2 Collection.

EDIT:

I could go for some big discounts on Bayonetta + Vanquish. Still waiting.

EDIT 2:

Oh, I forgot I bought Alan Wake + AN pretty quickly upon its GOG release.

 
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  • Changes to bayonet charge:
o Removed damage reduction while in charge. Weapons will now hit charging players for normal damage.

:bow:

No need to get snarky about it. It's just a difference of opinion.

Unfounded "horror stories" may not hold a lot of weight, but there's no denying the fact that every new OS is fraught with massive issues. 10 certainly hasn't been the mess that many others have been (ME, Vista, 8, etc), but it's silly to ignore the issues that there have been. I mean let's be real, the free upgrade was agreeing to beta test, and even now that it's NOT a free upgrade, people still frequently have massive issues with 10 that just plain don't exist on 7. If you wanna put it that way, it's like Xbone and PS4 said "Hey, we have a new console version that we're still tweaking and it's kind of a mess, but you can have it for free right now if you feel like dealing with our beta issues and wanna play our new exclusive games that require it! Oh, by the way, there are no hardware upgrades and miniscule software ones. Great offer, right?"

I do absolutely agree that them porting some games over is still awesome, even if it's to 10 only. That's a lot better than the alternative for sure. I just don't agree with the errant analogy that sticking with the more stable OS that can play all but a handful of exclusive M$ games is ignorantly sticking to something like a PS2 over a new console out of stubbornness, though.
I wasn't trying to be snarky, or at least not any snarkier than my usual level of snark. I totally get why some people stick with an older OS. For me though, I haven't had a Windows version where I never had any issues with it so it's just part of doing business. There's enough stuff I like about Windows 10 that I think it's worth the trade off.

 
I wasn't trying to be snarky, or at least not any snarkier than my usual level of snark. I totally get why some people stick with an older OS. For me though, I haven't had a Windows version where I never had any issues with it so it's just part of doing business. There's enough stuff I like about Windows 10 that I think it's worth the trade off.
Yeah, I understand that sentiment. It's a crapshoot kind of thing I guess, I had a system that came with Vista (the newest OS at the time) years back and had nothing but problems (especially with games). I rolled back to XP and life was good again. I adopted 7 probably in the early-mid stages and have been happy with it, and I was somewhat interested in 10, but having multiple tech savvy friends having issues with it just turned me off to it. I'm just really not a fan of dealing with computer issues.

Someday I'm sure I'll upgrade, but honestly by that point there will be Windows 12 (I guess we're skipping numbers now so why not) and 10 will be in tip top shape. Until then I guess I'll just have to stick to M$ console exclusives.

 
Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator 2 - Full Version for Steam. $36. https://www.dlgamer.com/us/games/buy-guilty-gear-xrd-rev-2-all-in-one-42445

Considering that the Deluxe of Revelator was $65 originally and this comes with all of it. Pretty reasonable deal overall. If you already own Revelator then it supposed to be $20 for the upgrade DLC to get Revelator 2. Based off of this, it appears that the regular retail price on Steam will be $45 for the standalone but Steam itself hasn't updated to reflect this just yet.

 
Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator 2 - Full Version for Steam. $36. https://www.dlgamer.com/us/games/buy-guilty-gear-xrd-rev-2-all-in-one-42445

Considering that the Deluxe of Revelator was $65 originally and this comes with all of it. Pretty reasonable deal overall. If you already own Revelator then it supposed to be $20 for the upgrade DLC to get Revelator 2. Based off of this, it appears that the regular retail price on Steam will be $45 for the standalone but Steam itself hasn't updated to reflect this just yet.
When's this going to be Humble Bundled?

 
When's this going to be Humble Bundled?
We haven't even seen any of the Blaz Blue series in a Humble Bundle. I know we had a couple of the Guilty Gears in different bundles but don't think they were in a Monthly. One was in the yogscast bundle if memory serves me correctly. I'd like to see a FGC Humble Bundle for sure though.

 
CAG furniture/patience story:

January 2017

Go to Staples, try out the chairs. Take a picture of 3 that I liked.

May 2017

Go back to Staples.

Chair 1 - $69.99, orig $149.99 in January
Chair 2 - $149.99, orig $249.99 in January

Chair 3 - no difference

Try the 3 again, end up getting chair 1. Guy is nice and overrides system to apply $5 coupon that didn't work.

2 Hours Later

Go home, look at receipt. Coupon for $30 off your $60 order, online-only.

Ordered the same chair. $43 after tax. I'm returning the one I bought today.

 
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Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator 2 - Full Version for Steam. $36. https://www.dlgamer.com/us/games/buy-guilty-gear-xrd-rev-2-all-in-one-42445

Considering that the Deluxe of Revelator was $65 originally and this comes with all of it. Pretty reasonable deal overall. If you already own Revelator then it supposed to be $20 for the upgrade DLC to get Revelator 2. Based off of this, it appears that the regular retail price on Steam will be $45 for the standalone but Steam itself hasn't updated to reflect this just yet.
Has anyone here purchased from DLGamer before? It seems like they're legit, but I just wanted to make sure before I order this.

EDIT: Well, nevermind then. Looks like the discount offer was removed.

 
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Last night the bros played Worms Clan Wars.  We started out with three (Myself, Spoder, and Idiotekque) but then Jimbo joined us for a full house.  I had a blast.  I like the Worms games a lot, but the 4 player cap makes it hard to schedule sometimes.  Idiot dominated all night, especially after he stopped jumping into the water, but I managed to sneak in a lucky win in the last round when he blew himself up with his own holy grenade.  

Tonight we tackle Minecraft Creativerse which is basically F2P Minecraft.  Ideally, we'll show up and work collaboratively to build something that will be the envy of everyone's Steam feed, but more realistically, we'll probably just fumble around for a few minutes and then quit.  

 
HIB 18 ends in an hour for anyone at risk of gilbying it.
I'm a gilby here... I guess it doesn't much matter. I couldn't remember one game in except for maybe Owlboy that was priced way too high in its 3 tier.

Anyhow, i really need to set a reminder on my phone... Or just not sweat the pennies and just buy it when it comes out.

 
Last few hours of the Black Desert Online sale.  Impressions (non-name related):

After a couple days with the game, I'd say to buy the $6 base game or the $18 Traveler's pack.  I have a hard time saying that the $30 Explorer's pack is worth it or that most people would really get the money's worth from it.  And the upgrades from Traveler's to Explorer's (permanent horse whistle, inventory expansion) are for a single character anyway.

My impressions are that combat is fun but, just shy of level 40, I still have yet to die or be challenged in combat.  Often I feel as though I could get through just holding down the left mouse button and mainly do all my special moves just to mix stuff up or take down a pile of mobs at once.  From what I hear, in the mid-40s you hit a wall where enemies become more difficult.

I played during the extra xp weekend and there's temporary Steam-only servers with xp boosts to get people caught up but I'm almost more interested in leveling my new character the slow way.  I feel as though I haven't seen much of the world and out-leveled large portions of it (both mobs and quests).  I haven't touched tradeskills yet and keep telling myself that I'm going to but then find myself running quests/grinding mobs (often the same thing) instead of figuring out how to plant corn or cut down trees.  I have what feels like (to me) a stupid amount of money with over 6mil silver banked and decked out armor and weapon worth another 12mil.  I'm sure that's nothing at the end game and I could blow it all on one or two tchotchkes for my home but I'm not wanting for basic resources or needs either.  There's stuff like a conversation mini-game to raise approval with people and unlock store items or quests or a whole "node" trade system of unlocking regions and even a little stock market to play with.  I've had fun with the conversation game and it plays to my style since it rewards exploration and talking to bunches of people (NPCs you've met are essentially your 'cards').  Basically everything you do is linked to some sort of reward, even running around, so you're constantly getting deluged with extra points here and there or little xp rewards or other stuff.  It's a bit overwhelming and addicting and probably ties into its F2P Korean origins where the cash shop is more heavily promoted (apparently they dialed it back for Western audiences and went with a base cost instead).

The game does try to pinch you a little to encourage use of the cash shop.  Inventory is limited although you'll get an extra slot here or there through quest rewards and other bonuses.  But I've filled up my bags in the field and a little button pops up in the corner "helpfully" linking to the +inv items in the store (it's not obtrusive but it's there).

I haven't tried PvP and don't have much desire to.  However, it sounds as though the risks are relatively mild (I grew up in Everquest where you had massive xp loss, naked corpse runs and PvP corpse looting) unless you lower your karma to criminal levels which I don't intend to do.

Game looks nice and it's been fun in a casual grindy way.  Despite the "Overrun" status on servers, I haven't felt crowded out yet although I've had to share quest/spawn areas a handful of times.  I feel there's a lot more to the game on the non-combat end to explore and I could spend as much time as I wanted to and not run out of things to do for a long, long time.  I'll get bored or itch to play another game long before that happens.

TL;DR -- Fun game with interesting combat and lots to do but most people won't invest enough time in it to justify $30.  Buy the base game or $18 Traveler's edition if you want to boost (free horse, extra inventory, etc).

 
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Has anyone here purchased from DLGamer before? It seems like they're legit, but I just wanted to make sure before I order this.

EDIT: Well, nevermind then. Looks like the discount offer was removed.
DLStaff from Reddit had this to say.


"Dear Community,

We've decided to run a discount to allow our users to get at least the same discount which is actually available on PS4 version.

It's the first time in 14 years, publisher is violating law. Prohibiting us to provides a special discount for our users.

We do have express our displeasure in return publisher just have decided to refuses to deliver game codes to force you to purchase at full price on Steam.

We're deeply sorry about the situation, but since we cannot provides thoses games codes we must cancel and refund your order.

If you finding this situation unfair or abnormal, you can express yourself on theirs facebook & twitter page.

https://www.facebook.com/arcsystemworksu/

Fortunately, most of publishers are respecting laws and consumers.

We doubt that we will receive activation codes in time.

Deep apologyzes"

And now that it is live on Steam the complete edition is $60. Kind of ridiculous when the PS4 version standalone is $40.
 
DLGamer is a legitimate store and takes pains to talk about how they're an authorized retailer for their publishers in their "About" section.  They just don't get mentioned much because their deals usually suck and there's no reason to mention them more than maybe once a year (sort of like how GetGamesGo used to be)

 
Last few hours of the Black Desert Online sale. Impressions (non-name related):
After a couple days with the game, I'd say to buy the $6 base game or the $18 Traveler's pack. I have a hard time saying that the $30 Explorer's pack is worth it or that most people would really get the money's worth from it. And the upgrades from Traveler's to Explorer's (permanent horse whistle, inventory expansion) are for a single character anyway.

My impressions are that combat is fun but, just shy of level 40, I still have yet to die or be challenged in combat. Often I feel as though I could get through just holding down the left mouse button and mainly do all my special moves just to mix stuff up or take down a pile of mobs at once. From what I hear, in the mid-40s you hit a wall where enemies become more difficult.

I played during the extra xp weekend and there's temporary Steam-only servers with xp boosts to get people caught up but I'm almost more interested in leveling my new character the slow way. I feel as though I haven't seen much of the world and out-leveled large portions of it (both mobs and quests). I haven't touched tradeskills yet and keep telling myself that I'm going to but then find myself running quests/grinding mobs (often the same thing) instead of figuring out how to plant corn or cut down trees. I have what feels like (to me) a stupid amount of money with over 6mil silver banked and decked out armor and weapon worth another 12mil. I'm sure that's nothing at the end game and I could blow it all on one or two tchotchkes for my home but I'm not wanting for basic resources or needs either. There's stuff like a conversation mini-game to raise approval with people and unlock store items or quests or a whole "node" trade system of unlocking regions and even a little stock market to play with. I've had fun with the conversation game and it plays to my style since it rewards exploration and talking to bunches of people (NPCs you've met are essentially your 'cards'). Basically everything you do is linked to some sort of reward, even running around, so you're constantly getting deluged with extra points here and there or little xp rewards or other stuff. It's a bit overwhelming and addicting and probably ties into its F2P Korean origins where the cash shop is more heavily promoted (apparently they dialed it back for Western audiences and went with a base cost instead).

The game does try to pinch you a little to encourage use of the cash shop. Inventory is limited although you'll get an extra slot here or there through quest rewards and other bonuses. But I've filled up my bags in the field and a little button pops up in the corner "helpfully" linking to the +inv items in the store (it's not obtrusive but it's there).

I haven't tried PvP and don't have much desire to. However, it sounds as though the risks are relatively mild (I grew up in Everquest where you had massive xp loss, naked corpse runs and PvP corpse looting) unless you lower your karma to criminal levels which I don't intend to do.

Game looks nice and it's been fun in a casual grindy way. Despite the "Overrun" status on servers, I haven't felt crowded out yet although I've had to share quest/spawn areas a handful of times. I feel there's a lot more to the game on the non-combat end to explore and I could spend as much time as I wanted to and not run out of things to do for a long, long time. I'll get bored or itch to play another game long before that happens.

TL;DR -- Fun game with interesting combat and lots to do but most people won't invest enough time in it to justify $30. Buy the base game or $18 Traveler's edition if you want to boost (free horse, extra inventory, etc).
Wow, you've all lapped me big time. lol. (Not surprised my time is real limited during my week so till I figure out what I'm doing, and what I can accomplish in an hour, I don't see myself really being able to touch it 5 days of the week.)

Do you see yourself playing another character or just sticking to one?
 
And now that it is live on Steam the complete edition is $60. Kind of ridiculous when the PS4 version standalone is $40.
Yeah, this is a point I brought up in that pricing topic on the Steam forum for the game (which has since been un-stickied). Even the $45 version doesn't make any sense. Why are we paying a $5 premium compared to the PS4 version? It's ridiculous.

I think I'm gonna pass on this game for now unless they match the price of the console version. I don't see the justification in paying more for the PC version.

 
Do you see yourself playing another character or just sticking to one?
I think I'll play another character and see how the game plays at a slower pace. Between the various xp boosts you get as rewards, the weekend boost they had running and the Steam server boost, I half feel like someone who bought a lvl 40 character rather than someone who got one by playing the game. During the trial, I started a Dark Knight and enjoyed it but then made a Maehwa on my Steam game and played her almost exclusively (I took a Sorceress to 15 but didn't like the style). So I'll probably go back to DK next. Fissfiss will yell at me to play a Striker for the reward-bribes.

Not sure when I'll start a new character. Guess whenever I feel like I'm hitting a wall or want to try other aspects of the game without farming level 10 mobs for potato seeds or something.

 
Last few hours of the Black Desert Online sale. Impressions (non-name related):
After a couple days with the game, I'd say to buy the $6 base game or the $18 Traveler's pack. I have a hard time saying that the $30 Explorer's pack is worth it or that most people would really get the money's worth from it. And the upgrades from Traveler's to Explorer's (permanent horse whistle, inventory expansion) are for a single character anyway.

My impressions are that combat is fun but, just shy of level 40, I still have yet to die or be challenged in combat. Often I feel as though I could get through just holding down the left mouse button and mainly do all my special moves just to mix stuff up or take down a pile of mobs at once. From what I hear, in the mid-40s you hit a wall where enemies become more difficult.

I played during the extra xp weekend and there's temporary Steam-only servers with xp boosts to get people caught up but I'm almost more interested in leveling my new character the slow way. I feel as though I haven't seen much of the world and out-leveled large portions of it (both mobs and quests). I haven't touched tradeskills yet and keep telling myself that I'm going to but then find myself running quests/grinding mobs (often the same thing) instead of figuring out how to plant corn or cut down trees. I have what feels like (to me) a stupid amount of money with over 6mil silver banked and decked out armor and weapon worth another 12mil. I'm sure that's nothing at the end game and I could blow it all on one or two tchotchkes for my home but I'm not wanting for basic resources or needs either. There's stuff like a conversation mini-game to raise approval with people and unlock store items or quests or a whole "node" trade system of unlocking regions and even a little stock market to play with. I've had fun with the conversation game and it plays to my style since it rewards exploration and talking to bunches of people (NPCs you've met are essentially your 'cards'). Basically everything you do is linked to some sort of reward, even running around, so you're constantly getting deluged with extra points here and there or little xp rewards or other stuff. It's a bit overwhelming and addicting and probably ties into its F2P Korean origins where the cash shop is more heavily promoted (apparently they dialed it back for Western audiences and went with a base cost instead).

The game does try to pinch you a little to encourage use of the cash shop. Inventory is limited although you'll get an extra slot here or there through quest rewards and other bonuses. But I've filled up my bags in the field and a little button pops up in the corner "helpfully" linking to the +inv items in the store (it's not obtrusive but it's there).

I haven't tried PvP and don't have much desire to. However, it sounds as though the risks are relatively mild (I grew up in Everquest where you had massive xp loss, naked corpse runs and PvP corpse looting) unless you lower your karma to criminal levels which I don't intend to do.

Game looks nice and it's been fun in a casual grindy way. Despite the "Overrun" status on servers, I haven't felt crowded out yet although I've had to share quest/spawn areas a handful of times. I feel there's a lot more to the game on the non-combat end to explore and I could spend as much time as I wanted to and not run out of things to do for a long, long time. I'll get bored or itch to play another game long before that happens.

TL;DR -- Fun game with interesting combat and lots to do but most people won't invest enough time in it to justify $30. Buy the base game or $18 Traveler's edition if you want to boost (free horse, extra inventory, etc).
You get access to the EXP servers for a month for new accounts. Also if you buy the 30 day packs you get access.

I can see spending more money on the game. I'm having a blast. Spend 3 hours last night connecting nodes and hiring workers to make me some money.

Also got my striker to 36 and warrior to 27.

Tons of fun, though I do notice that if you just left click you do about 1/4 the damage. Also, if you hit key 1-10 your abilities you do less damage than using the KBMcombos.
 
Haha, my week is an absolute clusterfuck. I'm supposed to be moving tomorrow, but short sales blow and our closing has been delayed again. Last year the sale fell through the week we were supposed to move and we had to stay here another year. This time its going through but a snag "in the paperwork" unrelated to seller/buyer has delayed us by another week most likely. We waited a month before we started unpacking boxes last year once we realized we were stuck. Because of NJ's property laws, we can't move out of state while the short sale is pending.

On another aside because of this delay, I went ahead and ordered a new MOBO due to my problem over the weekend. Its something I've been considering for a while regardless because I had limited SATA ports with the current one, but at least the new one will allow me to see if its really my GPU that's failed rather than the mobo. It gets here tomorrow, so maybe with a bit of better luck I can at least play some games if my GPU is still in working order while this stupid real estate nonsense sorts itself out. The onboard graphics don't let me play anything of merit i.e. I tried Dead Cells cause I got it late last week and what should be 60FPS+ on almost any GPU of decent merit, the onboard doesnt go over 10.

 
Tons of fun, though I do notice that if you just left click you do about 1/4 the damage. Also, if you hit key 1-10 your abilities you do less damage than using the KBMcombos.
Sure, but when stuff dies in three swipes anyway it's sort of academic. I don't suspect that it'll always be that way but the fact that the first 40 levels have been that way is somewhat surprising.

 
Sure, but when stuff dies in three swipes anyway it's sort of academic. I don't suspect that it'll always be that way but the fact that the first 40 levels have been that way is somewhat surprising.
Yea when you get to 50 it gets intense and takes a bit to kill stuff. Also takes like 8hrs to gain a level.

My biggest issue is BDO support. Going on 5 days with no response from them about my Explorers Pack mishap :/
 
Also takes like 8hrs to gain a level.
Been holding on to most of my xp scrolls and stuff for exactly that reason. No reason to blow them early on making my 4 levels per hour rate into a 5 levels/hr rate.

Bah, that stuff sucks. Hope you can at least get your box working and take one thing off your plate.

 
Been holding on to most of my xp scrolls and stuff for exactly that reason. No reason to blow them early on making my 4 levels per hour rate into a 5 levels/hr rate.

Bah, that stuff sucks. Hope you can at least get your box working and take one thing off your plate.
I don't think the Exp buffs stay. They reset every day even if you don't use them (could be wrong, but I didn't use the daily one for 2 days, when I went to use it there was only 1). I think the only thing that stays is the level specific rewards.

Unless you're talking about the 30day pearl packs (which we got 2 of :)
 
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No, the various +xp clickies from quest rewards, etc.  They stack (the scrolls, not the bonuses) and are right click to use.

Obviously you may as well use the daily rewards.  You do get some for leveling rewards (at level 20, 30, etc) that I haven't redeemed yet.

 
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So far, I've gotten a Musa to 19 and a Striker to 25. 

Right now, I really want to try to get the Striker leveled while there's all the bonuses to doing so.

As has been mentioned, so long as you're fighting stuff in the level brackets they're suggested, most mobs just fall over to clicking them to death, and using other moves when mobs surround you.

What's been really nice is that when you log in and get all of the daily log in rewards, you generally can stack it to get where you'll get the extra xp bonus for being on the newbie servers, plus another 100% because you logged in, plus another 100% for an hour or 200% for a half hour.

Moving along the Spirit's storyline chain and moving to the next area (new mobs that you're at the low end of the range for), you can fire off all those buffs, and at least in the twenties, gain 4+ levels in that half hour.  

I could see myself adding on more new characters, because with the way the Family system works, you have energy, cooperation points, and knowledge points shared between them, and I've been noticing that quests that knowledge point based ones (along with NPC amity) are also shared between characters, meaning there are some questions you only need to complete once, and after having done so, you just talk to the NPC on the new character and collect the reward for the quest immediately.

Thanks to the shared storage and houses in towns, I think later in the game I may just start tossing extra characters out there to have them sit in various far-flung places on the map and rather than traveling across the world with one character, I may just change to another just to save the time. 

I only bought the base game, and I don't feel like I'm missing out on a ton, but I could see how having a pet and not having to loot the enemies would be a nice quality of life upgrade. 

As a side note: If you're playing this game, make sure to go into the loyalty store and buy and extra character slot right now. It's a 1 loyalty reward, and you're given 100 loyalty a day. (normally it's something like 5000 loyalty).

(yet another bonus for the Striker release event.)

 
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