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bojay1997 said:
I agree that it's not likely to change, but that doesn't mean that what it has become is what it must remain. I'm also curious about this alleged childish name-calling you are referring to. if anything, the majority who has no interest in all of the business analysis has been very respectful of the handful of people who have been posting the same stuff repeatedly for the past two years.
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This forum has been a smorgasbord of eclectic posts longer than it has been a focused thread solely about the games. Frankly, I don't really remember it being anything other than that, nor do I generally have the time to provide an opinion either way. But things like "Of course, the trolls and threadcrappers here won't allow that to happen because they adore the attention too much" come across as being very abrasive and divisive, even if it is not intended to be. Most of us are here because we all share a common passion about games, collecting, and LRG in general. If people are interested in sharing their thoughts, and providing opinions or analysis of a topic related to LRG, more power to them, because we all express ourselves differently. I don't like or agree with everything in the thread, but I enjoy it for what it is, which is a group of individuals passionate enough to follow a company devoted to physical media. One can argue whether this entire thread is worthy of being considered a "deal" or not, but it's a moot point, because majority of us are here to enjoy ourselves, without getting too caught up in the minutiae of things.

 
Darshminder said:
This forum has been a smorgasbord of eclectic posts longer than it has been a focused thread solely about the games. Frankly, I don't really remember it being anything other than that, nor do I generally have the time to provide an opinion either way. But things like "Of course, the trolls and threadcrappers here won't allow that to happen because they adore the attention too much" come across as being very abrasive and divisive, even if it is not intended to be. Most of us are here because we all share a common passion about games, collecting, and LRG in general. If people are interested in sharing their thoughts, and providing opinions or analysis of a topic related to LRG, more power to them, because we all express ourselves differently. I don't like or agree with everything in the thread, but I enjoy it for what it is, which is a group of individuals passionate enough to follow a company devoted to physical media. One can argue whether this entire thread is worthy of being considered a "deal" or not, but it's a moot point, because majority of us are here to enjoy ourselves, without getting too caught up in the minutiae of things.
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I thought your avatar was a pig's nose IDKW

 
Darshminder said:
This forum has been a smorgasbord of eclectic posts longer than it has been a focused thread solely about the games. Frankly, I don't really remember it being anything other than that, nor do I generally have the time to provide an opinion either way. But things like "Of course, the trolls and threadcrappers here won't allow that to happen because they adore the attention too much" come across as being very abrasive and divisive, even if it is not intended to be. Most of us are here because we all share a common passion about games, collecting, and LRG in general. If people are interested in sharing their thoughts, and providing opinions or analysis of a topic related to LRG, more power to them, because we all express ourselves differently. I don't like or agree with everything in the thread, but I enjoy it for what it is, which is a group of individuals passionate enough to follow a company devoted to physical media. One can argue whether this entire thread is worthy of being considered a "deal" or not, but it's a moot point, because majority of us are here to enjoy ourselves, without getting too caught up in the minutiae of things.
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The problem with what you are arguing for is that it has negative consequences for the majority of us who don't want to sift through the same tired arguments about how LRG should run their business to try and find relevant information about releases or other new information. Similarly, the most serious consequence of all of this "freedom" has been to drive LRG away from this thread when they used to provide valuable insights into upcoming releases and other information about their future plans. So, you and a few others who want to do the daily LRG business case study in this thread may be enjoying yourselves, but you're doing it at the expense of the rest of us who actually want to discuss the topics this thread was created to address in the first place.

 
bojay1997 said:
The problem with what you are arguing for is that it has negative consequences for the majority of us who don't want to sift through the same tired arguments about how LRG should run their business to try and find relevant information about releases or other new information. Similarly, the most serious consequence of all of this "freedom" has been to drive LRG away from this thread when they used to provide valuable insights into upcoming releases and other information about their future plans. So, you and a few others who want to do the daily LRG business case study in this thread may be enjoying yourselves, but you're doing it at the expense of the rest of us who actually want to discuss the topics this thread was created to address in the first place.
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Nah, I rarely post here, and sift through it like everyone else. I hear you, and would love to see them back. But I also don't lump the difference of opinions and analysis into the same box as the combative accusations and negativity that drove them away. Just my opinion, but I think we can all work together on maintaining an environment that might welcome them back someday.

 
Certain LRG practices really ramped up over the last couple of years to varying degrees--lower quality games, more huge and expensive CEs, variant covers, a torrential flood of releases, hundreds of dollars of unshipped products for months at a time, etc. I'm not going to say that every complaint in here was delivered in a fair way--or even reasonable to begin with--but an awful lot of them were. That seems to be what drove them away, and I don't blame them for not wanting to read all of that constantly. At the same time, though, a lot of those trends/practices are some absolute BS, and I'm not going to fault people for expressing those; this seemed like a chance to talk to the wizard behind the curtain to hope to change things. 

As has been said, the actual discussion thread is basically dead, so people discuss here to avoid talking to themselves. Further, literally nothing in here is a deal, so either side of this discussion spouting forum rules just comes off as very silly.

 
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Buy what you want. Leave what you don't. Honestly it will likely just be RabiRabi and eventually that fighting game with the 3 kingdoms gender swaps for me, unless something amazing comes through. I'll get things when I get them. 

 
nitrosmob said:
Buy what you want. Leave what you don't. Honestly it will likely just be RabiRabi and eventually that fighting game with the 3 kingdoms gender swaps for me, unless something amazing comes through. I'll get things when I get them.
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Okay, I'm intrigued now. What the hell fighting game is that? Haha

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Was a little bit difficult to Google based on that information (haha) but I got it. I had no idea that Koihime Enbu was a RotTK gender bend--very interesting.

 
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Nothing371 said:
Remember back when LRG used to ship you the games that you bought? Man those were the times.
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I don’t think I’ve heard a single story where LRG failed to deliver someone a game they ordered. Sure it might take a while (you know that when you place the order), but the games always arrive.
 
Zaku77 said:
Certain LRG practices really ramped up over the last couple of years to varying degrees--lower quality games, more huge and expensive CEs, variant covers, a torrential flood of releases, hundreds of dollars of unshipped products for months at a time, etc. I'm not going to say that every complaint in here was delivered in a fair way--or even reasonable to begin with--but an awful lot of them were. That seems to be what drove them away, and I don't blame them for not wanting to read all of that constantly. At the same time, though, a lot of those trends/practices are some absolute BS, and I'm not going to fault people for expressing those; this seemed like a chance to talk to the wizard behind the curtain to hope to change things.

As has been said, the actual discussion thread is basically dead, so people discuss here to avoid talking to themselves. Further, literally nothing in here is a deal, so either side of this discussion spouting forum rules just comes off as very silly.
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Well, don't you think it's possible that the same things that drove away the LRG guys also drove away a lot of the people who used to post regularly in this thread? I mean it's pretty hard to be an active participant in a thread where anyone that tries to give LRG the benefit of the doubt is immediately attacked as a "white knight" or an "apologist". I also think you're off base on the forum rules. There are many threads here that have been allowed that were not strictly "deals" threads. Having said that, I'm not aware of any threads that meet that definition but then are primarily used to attack or provide advice and guidance to the very company whose products are being discussed. Moreover, the OP very specifically laid out what the scope of the thread was intended and gave anyone who wanted to go beyond that an entire separate thread to do so. The reality is that the people who want to derail and threadcrap aren't really interested in discussion, what they want is a thread where their complaints will have to be read by people who are either avid customers of LRG or otherwise would ignore such comments. It's kind of sad, but I get it. That doesn't mean the rest of us have to just tolerate it.

 
is there an update on some of the games? I have like.. 3 or 4 orders where the last email i got was "due in aug sept" but havent gotten any newsletters recently. Mainly PixelJunk Monsters and Cosmic Star Heroine. Anyone got an update??

 
bojay1997 said:
Well, don't you think it's possible that the same things that drove away the LRG guys also drove away a lot of the people who used to post regularly in this thread? I mean it's pretty hard to be an active participant in a thread where anyone that tries to give LRG the benefit of the doubt is immediately attacked as a "white knight" or an "apologist". I also think you're off base on the forum rules. There are many threads here that have been allowed that were not strictly "deals" threads. Having said that, I'm not aware of any threads that meet that definition but then are primarily used to attack or provide advice and guidance to the very company whose products are being discussed. Moreover, the OP very specifically laid out what the scope of the thread was intended and gave anyone who wanted to go beyond that an entire separate thread to do so. The reality is that the people who want to derail and threadcrap aren't really interested in discussion, what they want is a thread where their complaints will have to be read by people who are either avid customers of LRG or otherwise would ignore such comments. It's kind of sad, but I get it. That doesn't mean the rest of us have to just tolerate it.
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It's certainly possible. Again, though, many of the issues were legitimate criticisms and concerns, and many were delivered in a reasonable manner. So if that behavior drives people away, then good riddance? I still read and post in the Japanese games thread. Overwatch stuff is very regularly posted and discussed there--including some tired criticisms. It's not Japanese, and I don't like the game, but I still post there. The 10 seconds it takes me to skim those posts and move on is simply not egregious, and with the quote function many conversations can happen concurrently.

Many threads that aren't 'deals' have been allowed, and this is one of them--that's spot on. But that's tolerating an exception. I'm not sure that a tolerated exception needs to be under the scrutiny of any branch of the forum rules police. Further, I am aware of what's in the OP. But given that this is the LRG thread that actually has people posting in it--and is an exception that doesn't strictly fit in this forum anyway--isn't it a little bit weird to advocate policing the conversation to that point? Imagine talking to people in real life for just a moment with me. The first person to bring up a topic (the OP) brings it up. Ten minutes in his peers start discussing aspects of the topic that he didn't want to, so he stops them and gives them a rule sheet for which aspects of topic 'x' are allowed to be discussed based on his initial vision of bringing it up. Conversations don't work that way--even needing to have a discussion about this seems so incredibly petty and silly.

While I will completely agree that many of the complaints are the same shop worn belly aching on repeat, this simply cannot be an environment of forced positivity.

"Game X is coming out, and I like this type of game, love these types of CEs, and think it's a good value. It's out on the 16th!" - This is apparently okay

"Game X is coming out, and I do not like this type of game, hate these types of CEs, and think it's a bad value. It's out on the 16th!" - This is apparently not okay

Does that help illustrate the problem? These ancillary parts of the conversation are going to come up with anything. In other threads it's what will//won't sell out, what shipping practices are like, will 'x' get restocked, will 'y' go on sale soon. These are normal parts of a conversation, and it needs to be left at that. This is a forum. We are discussing LRG and their releases. This is all quite natural and normal for humans discussing something. We will all find a way to sleep at night if some posts don't follow the 'rules' outlined in the OP. Perhaps we can play conversation police in real life to unload some of the stress--I'm sure it will be well received with all involved parties ;).

 
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Nothing371 said:
Remember back when LRG used to ship you the games that you bought? Man those were the times.
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Yeah, back when the resellers and the insistence that they needed the resellers in order to sell out a run were common place. I don't really miss that. I did love the fairly quick turnaround time between ordering and getting a game. But the black friday feverish competition surrounding the launch minute... I'll never miss that. Maybe if I were a flipper with my bots and various accounts lined up... maybe then I'd miss it... but for me this has only ever been about getting a game physical for my collection.

I really like what LRG has done with the majority of switch games. Having an open preorder for the standard edition with a fairly large fixed period of time has taken all the stress out of buying games. Granted, not for those that want the LE versions, but there's not much fear anymore of missing a game. It's a shame the vita and ps4 markets have shrank but with longer and sometimes not disclosed ship dates spanning months it's no surprise really.

 
Zaku77 said:
It's certainly possible. Again, though, many of the issues were legitimate criticisms and concerns, and many were delivered in a reasonable manner. So if that behavior drives people away, then good riddance? I still read and post in the Japanese games thread. Overwatch stuff is very regularly posted and discussed there--including some tired criticisms. It's not Japanese, and I don't like the game, but I still post there. The 10 seconds it takes me to skim those posts and move on is simply not egregious, and with the quote function many conversations can happen concurrently.

Many threads that aren't 'deals' have been allowed, and this is one of them--that's spot on. But that's tolerating an exception. I'm not sure that a tolerated exception needs to be under the scrutiny of any branch of the forum rules police. Further, I am aware of what's in the OP. But given that this is the LRG thread that actually has people posting in it--and is an exception that doesn't strictly fit in this forum anyway--isn't it a little bit weird to advocate policing the conversation to that point. Imagine talking to people in real life for just a moment with me. The first person to bring up a topic (the OP) brings it up. Ten minutes in his peers start discussing aspects of the topic that he didn't want to, so he stops them and gives them a rule sheet for which aspects of topic 'x' are allowed to be discussed based on his initial vision of bringing it up. Conversations don't work that way--even needing to have a discussion about this seems so incredibly petty and silly.

While I will completely agree that many of the complaints are the same shop worn belly aching on repeat, this simply cannot be an environment of forced positivity.

"Game X is coming out, and I like this type of game, love these types of CEs, and think it's a good value. It's out on the 16th!" - This is apparently okay

"Game X is coming out, and I do not like this type of game, hate these types of CEs, and think it's a bad value. It's out on the 16th!" - This is apparently not okay

Does that help illustrate the problem? These ancillary parts of the conversation are going to come up with anything. In other threads it's what will//won't sell out, what shipping practices are like, will 'x' get restocked, will 'y' go on sale soon. These are normal parts of a conversation, and it needs to be left at that. This is a forum. We are discussing LRG and their releases. This is all quite natural and normal for humans discussing something. We will all find a way to sleep at night if some posts don't follow the 'rules' outlined in the OP. Perhaps we can play conversation police in real life to unload some of the stress--I'm sure it will be well received with all involved parties ;).
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Taking your real life analogy to it's natural conclusion, human beings have the ability through non-verbal cues as well as verbal ones to express that they believe a conversation is out of bounds and guide the conversation through those cues. There are also societally imposed limits on what type of discussion is reasonable within a particular environment. Unfortunately, on a message forum, those things don't have natural analogues, so it often ends up being a situation where participants must rely on rules and moderators or on common decency from other participants to effectuate the same result. Regardless, nobody is arguing that people shouldn't be free to take the discussion where it goes and if there are negative or critical points about games or LRG raised, then so be it. At the point it goes wildly off-topic and becomes a monologue, however, for example with random posts about how LRG is a terrible company or engaged in fraud or other deception without any kind of factual support, it's time to take those discussions elsewhere. It's literally not following the discussion and is instead designed to grab attention and distract from that discussion. Simply put, you don't reward the people who are ruining the discussion for everyone else by simply saying "well, it's ok because that's just how things turned out". All of us have the ability to decide what we will and won't tolerate in the discussion thread we have helped build and shape and just because you happen to enjoy where the off-topic content is going doesn't mean that the rest of us have to just accept it.

 
bojay1997 said:
Taking your real life analogy to it's natural conclusion, human beings have the ability through non-verbal cues as well as verbal ones to express that they believe a conversation is out of bounds and guide the conversation through those cues. There are also societally imposed limits on what type of discussion is reasonable within a particular environment. Unfortunately, on a message forum, those things don't have natural analogues, so it often ends up being a situation where participants must rely on rules and moderators or on common decency from other participants to effectuate the same result. Regardless, nobody is arguing that people shouldn't be free to take the discussion where it goes and if there are negative or critical points about games or LRG raised, then so be it. At the point it goes wildly off-topic and becomes a monologue, however, for example with random posts about how LRG is a terrible company or engaged in fraud or other deception without any kind of factual support, it's time to take those discussions elsewhere. It's literally not following the discussion and is instead designed to grab attention and distract from that discussion. Simply put, you don't reward the people who are ruining the discussion for everyone else by simply saying "well, it's ok because that's just how things turned out". All of us have the ability to decide what we will and won't tolerate in the discussion thread we have helped build and shape and just because you happen to enjoy where the off-topic content is going doesn't mean that the rest of us have to just accept it.
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Many of the people posting here clearly want to be talking about the things that you wish they wouldn't. So their cues expressing where the topic can go are a valid part of the brew. I'm going to simply state the direct inverse of your final sentence is also true. And I really feel that the people spouting actual nonsense are better off ignored or decisively shut down, rather than trying to dissect the ins and outs of what can/can't be discussed in an internet forum about video games; my life is worth more than that effort--prior 4 posts clearly not withstanding--and I'm sure yours is too. The discourse that you and I just had is unnecessary in every possible way.

 
Zaku77 said:
Many of the people posting here clearly want to be talking about the things that you wish they wouldn't. So their cues expressing where the topic can go are a valid part of the brew. I'm going to simply state the direct inverse of your final sentence is also true. And I really feel that the people spouting actual nonsense are better off ignored or decisively shut down, rather than trying to dissect the ins and outs of what can/can't be discussed in an internet forum about video games; my life is worth more than that effort--prior 4 posts clearly not withstanding--and I'm sure yours is too. The discourse that you and I just had is unnecessary in every possible way.
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You know I disagree and you and I have had this exact same discussion on multiple occasions. It doesn't change anything and perhaps it never will, but the reality is that by simply tolerating the off-topic nonsense, it has cost us the presence of LRG (i.e. the very audience that a lot of the off-topic criticism was aimed at) and a number of formerly active thread members. it also means that news of new releases filters here later than many other forums and sites. Again, nothing you and I say is going to change that, but choices have consequences and ultimately, by simply tolerating and sometimes encouraging those looking for attention, the value of the thread to many participants has largely been destroyed.

 
At this point, I think LRG is basically just biding its time and trying to hawk as many low quality game "preorders" as they can before their whole business model collapses or gets taken over by someone doing it better. Switch probably saved them for the time being otherwise they'd just have PS4 games, which have been saturated hard now. But even Switch magic will only last so long. I used to buy every release for a solid two years straight, but this year their service really went off the deep end with the neverending wait times, not to mention the lackluster product we were all burnt out on last year. Not hating at all, I seriously used to be their biggest fanboy, even turned quite a few of my collector friends onto them, but now when people ask, especially the switch crowd just getting in, all I can say to them is to only buy the games you really really want and to expect epicly long wait times. Really hope they turn it around but I'm pretty doubtful.
 
Revised and final release list for the rest of October is up:

October 19th
Defender's Quest (PS4/Vita)
Mages of Mystralia (PS4)

October 26th
Outlast 1 and Outlast 2 (Switch)
Dragon Sinker (PS4/Vita)

 
bojay1997 said:
Yes, but at some point, the same arguments have been made hundreds of times and there is nothing more to say about them. There is plenty to discuss including new product announcements, opinions about the games that are announced or released, etc...none of which involve a constant analysis of LRG's business practices. I mean I visit lots of other threads here and elsewhere and I don't see people constantly complaining about how Ubisoft or EA or NIS or anyone else advertises or the rate at which they sell through. There is something unique about LRG that brings out a bizarre combination of envy and self-loathing like no other company I have ever seen. I've suggested it before, but if people want to discuss LRG as a company rather than their games, they should do it within a new thread in another subforum. Of course, the trolls and threadcrappers here won't allow that to happen because they adore the attention too much.
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bojay1997 said:
Incorrect, bud. Take a look at the OP for this whole thread and this other thread started by the OP specifically for all the derailing crap that doesn't belong here.

https://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/364154-limited-run-games-youre-limited-no-youre-limited-discussion-thread/

That other thread was specifically created to deal with all of the discussion you are encouraging. This thread was supposed to be for discussion of releases. I would also echo your own statements back to you. If you aren't interested in sticking to the purpose of this thread, feel free to start your own elsewhere as those of us trying to keep on topic and who will continue to complain about all of these irrelevant back set CEO posts aren't going to change anytime soon.
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bojay1997 said:
Yes, but at some point, the same arguments have been made hundreds of times and there is nothing more to say about them. There is plenty to discuss including new product announcements, opinions about the games that are announced or released, etc...none of which involve a constant analysis of LRG's business practices. I mean I visit lots of other threads here and elsewhere and I don't see people constantly complaining about how Ubisoft or EA or NIS or anyone else advertises or the rate at which they sell through. There is something unique about LRG that brings out a bizarre combination of envy and self-loathing like no other company I have ever seen. I've suggested it before, but if people want to discuss LRG as a company rather than their games, they should do it within a new thread in another subforum. Of course, the trolls and threadcrappers here won't allow that to happen because they adore the attention too much.
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bojay1997 said:
Well, don't you think it's possible that the same things that drove away the LRG guys also drove away a lot of the people who used to post regularly in this thread? I mean it's pretty hard to be an active participant in a thread where anyone that tries to give LRG the benefit of the doubt is immediately attacked as a "white knight" or an "apologist". I also think you're off base on the forum rules. There are many threads here that have been allowed that were not strictly "deals" threads. Having said that, I'm not aware of any threads that meet that definition but then are primarily used to attack or provide advice and guidance to the very company whose products are being discussed. Moreover, the OP very specifically laid out what the scope of the thread was intended and gave anyone who wanted to go beyond that an entire separate thread to do so. The reality is that the people who want to derail and threadcrap aren't really interested in discussion, what they want is a thread where their complaints will have to be read by people who are either avid customers of LRG or otherwise would ignore such comments. It's kind of sad, but I get it. That doesn't mean the rest of us have to just tolerate it.
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bojay1997 said:
Taking your real life analogy to it's natural conclusion, human beings have the ability through non-verbal cues as well as verbal ones to express that they believe a conversation is out of bounds and guide the conversation through those cues. There are also societally imposed limits on what type of discussion is reasonable within a particular environment. Unfortunately, on a message forum, those things don't have natural analogues, so it often ends up being a situation where participants must rely on rules and moderators or on common decency from other participants to effectuate the same result. Regardless, nobody is arguing that people shouldn't be free to take the discussion where it goes and if there are negative or critical points about games or LRG raised, then so be it. At the point it goes wildly off-topic and becomes a monologue, however, for example with random posts about how LRG is a terrible company or engaged in fraud or other deception without any kind of factual support, it's time to take those discussions elsewhere. It's literally not following the discussion and is instead designed to grab attention and distract from that discussion. Simply put, you don't reward the people who are ruining the discussion for everyone else by simply saying "well, it's ok because that's just how things turned out". All of us have the ability to decide what we will and won't tolerate in the discussion thread we have helped build and shape and just because you happen to enjoy where the off-topic content is going doesn't mean that the rest of us have to just accept it.
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bojay1997 said:
You know I disagree and you and I have had this exact same discussion on multiple occasions. It doesn't change anything and perhaps it never will, but the reality is that by simply tolerating the off-topic nonsense, it has cost us the presence of LRG (i.e. the very audience that a lot of the off-topic criticism was aimed at) and a number of formerly active thread members. it also means that news of new releases filters here later than many other forums and sites. Again, nothing you and I say is going to change that, but choices have consequences and ultimately, by simply tolerating and sometimes encouraging those looking for attention, the value of the thread to many participants has largely been destroyed.
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This is definitely not shitposting. You should all follow bojay's example of how to post.

 
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bojay1997 said:
Revised and final release list for the rest of October is up:

October 19th
Defender's Quest (PS4/Vita)
Mages of Mystralia (PS4)

October 26th
Outlast 1 and Outlast 2 (Switch)
Dragon Sinker (PS4/Vita)
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Thanks, i skipped through the bs and saw this actual post. Now I'll wait for November's schedule. :)
 
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Nothing371 said:
This is definitely not shitposting. You should all follow bojay's example of how to post.
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While I don't agree with his approach, I do appreciate his viewpoints, and try to understand where he's coming from. This thread may have a few tangents and fluff here and there, but it remains a good source of news and interesting opinions. I just hope we can all maintain a certain level of respect and civil discourse. :bouncy:

 
bojay1997 said:
Revised and final release list for the rest of October is up:

October 19th
Defender's Quest (PS4/Vita)
Mages of Mystralia (PS4)

October 26th
Outlast 1 and Outlast 2 (Switch)
Dragon Sinker (PS4/Vita)
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Thanks for the list, at first I thought that said outrun. Any idea when the Wii U game is coming out?

 
falsedichotomies said:
At this point, I think LRG is basically just biding its time and trying to hawk as many low quality game "preorders" as they can before their whole business model collapses or gets taken over by someone doing it better. Switch probably saved them for the time being otherwise they'd just have PS4 games, which have been saturated hard now. But even Switch magic will only last so long. I used to buy every release for a solid two years straight, but this year their service really went off the deep end with the neverending wait times, not to mention the lackluster product we were all burnt out on last year. Not hating at all, I seriously used to be their biggest fanboy, even turned quite a few of my collector friends onto them, but now when people ask, especially the switch crowd just getting in, all I can say to them is to only buy the games you really really want and to expect epicly long wait times. Really hope they turn it around but I'm pretty doubtful.
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The games were hit and miss from the start. Or miss, miss, hit, miss, miss, miss, miss, etc. Breach and Clear, Saturday Morning RPG, Futuridium, Octodad, Xeodrifter, B&C Deadline, Lost sea. Not exactly modern classics or even games most people would consider average. Oddworld New n Tasty was the only legit game for a while. I admit I bought a lot of that early crap though. I've cut way back and sold a lot. Not having CE's for every other game or 10 games a month made it more manageable, but it was still like "what's even the point when maybe 20% of the games are good?"

Remember when they said they would slow down? Or that games would come at a quicker pace?? Everyone knew it was BS, but people still defended them.

My Slim San CE is supposed to be here Wednesday. Waiting on Cosmic Star Heroine to be shipped soon. I bought that on May 25... I always say I will still buy from them when they have something I want.

 
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Zaku77 said:
Certain LRG practices really ramped up over the last couple of years to varying degrees--lower quality games, more huge and expensive CEs, variant covers, a torrential flood of releases, hundreds of dollars of unshipped products for months at a time, etc. I'm not going to say that every complaint in here was delivered in a fair way--or even reasonable to begin with--but an awful lot of them were. That seems to be what drove them away, and I don't blame them for not wanting to read all of that constantly. At the same time, though, a lot of those trends/practices are some absolute BS, and I'm not going to fault people for expressing those; this seemed like a chance to talk to the wizard behind the curtain to hope to change things.

As has been said, the actual discussion thread is basically dead, so people discuss here to avoid talking to themselves. Further, literally nothing in here is a deal, so either side of this discussion spouting forum rules just comes off as very silly.
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I’ve found that LRG doesn’t really like to be contrite when people call them out on their own practices. On Twitter, when people were complaining about the delay in shipping out Night Trap I pointed out that while many copies were going out in October the production updates page said for weeks that the game would ship in September. I suggested it’d be better not to publish that info at all if it was going to prove inaccurate. The response was defensive rather than apologetic. LRG strikes me as a company that has grown so fast its customer service has suffered as a result.
 
trunks982 said:
im hoping 2 separate carts in one case. i didnt like what they did for Mutant Mudds for PS4/Vita. that ended up paying so much. but im glad i got the Mutant Mudds on the switch from another company.
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LRG knows they will get a lot more revenue if they do two separate releases and unfortunately here I believe that is what they will be doing.

Kind of a shame since Outlast Trinity on PS4 contained all the games for a $39.99 price (cheaper if you had GCU or Prime Discount).

 
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunGames/status/1052197963047538688

This is unexpected. I'm surprised that Pound isn't selling it through Amazon like they did with the Xbox HD Link.

Metal Jesus posted a review this morning. Seems decent but not amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAge8SidnX4&t=0s

 
All the Pound cables are decent and not amazing. They're good in a pinch, for their ease of use and if someone isn't too big on graphical/audio details, but usually a workaround works better.

 
That's a pretty cool PS1/PS2 cable.  I like it.

But I'm waiting to hear about PS5 and its rumored backwards compatibility with 1-4.  We'll see if that's a thing first.

 
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I've got good Component solutions for all of my old consoles--sans the Gamecube, as the Eon GCHD is definitely the way to go there--but I would love to start updating them to HDMI. Hyperkin has an OG Xbox HDMI cable coming out later this year that I'm hopeful for. Is there a better alternative to this Pound cable for PS2 HDMI that can compare to Component?

 
That cable seemed interesting until the fact that it doesn't do 480p. Though PS2 doesn't look very good regardless on a HD set compared to other consoles at that time.  I can see this convenient for some.

 
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Zaku77 said:
I've got good Component solutions for all of my old consoles--sans the Gamecube, as the Eon GCHD is definitely the way to go there--but I would love to start updating them to HDMI. Hyperkin has an OG Xbox HDMI cable coming out later this year that I'm hopeful for. Is there a better alternative to this Pound cable for PS2 HDMI that can compare to Component?
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I'm interested to see what kind of quality, etc. the Hyperkin cable for OG Xbox is as well. Their Dreamcast cable isn't super. I just got a new TV that doesn't have component and neither does my receiver (but has 3+ composite. What?!), so I'll either have to go with the Hyperkin cable or get a converter/upscaler to HDMI (which I do with my Dreamcast's VGA, so that isn't a bad option, just more pieces of hardware). I don't know of any other out of the box HDMI cables for PS2 though.

 
I'm curious to see how the Hyperkin xbox cable is only because I have that interference issue on mine with the pound xbox cable, be nice if the hyperkin cable knocks it out

 
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And the Pound Xbox cable doesn't pass through 5.1 audio, right? It converts all audio to two channel stereo?
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I'm not 100% that it downsamples 5.1, but it definitely does not output 5.1. I know the 1.4 xboxes are known to have the interference issue along with certain other models, been thinking about maybe sourcing another system at some point since I'm in an HDMI only input situation on my main set. Pound said they were looking into a solution on the cable side but I haven't seen any updates

 
Seems like the best overall solution for PS1 & PS2 is to just track down an original PS3 with BC. That would at least lump three systems into one HDMI.   That is, if you actually have a library of those games.

 
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Seems like the best overall solution for PS1 & PS2 is to just track down an original PS3 with BC. That would at least lump three systems into one HDMI. That is, if you actually have a library of those games.
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If you aren't super tied to using the original systems, then yeah probably. Some people swear by nuances in various versions of the systems (original ps1 systems were considered to have a really good audio dac for the price point), personally I've been fine just using my launch ps3 as my ps1/2/3 system, though I did have a YLOD scare.

 
I think I might get the PS2 HDMI cable. I'd probably enjoy the BC PS3 but I already have one and I'm not sure I can deal with the YLOD scare.

Plus I actually have my PS2 already connected through S-Video and I have a pretty stacked HD Loader. But it kinda looks like shit, that's all.

Don't mention PCSX2. Amazing tech but I don't have time for it. Need to be able to plop in any DVD on demand and just play.

 
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