2009 MLB Discussion Thread

[quote name='yukine']Christ, about damn time the Diamondbacks hit with RISP... and the ones who have been doing it are the pitchers![/quote]

Same pathetic story for the Cubs. The only time we score runs is off the long ball. 2 runs on 2 solo shots. If this keeps up the Cardinals are going to have stranglehold on the Central by the end of May!

If the Cubs are going to crap out this year I hope one of the young teams like the Pirates or Brewers win the Central. I'd throw the Reds in there but Dusty will always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Anyone but those damn Cardinals!
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']who knows what happen to Ollie. I think his commitment is an issue. He showed up to Spring Training 20 pounds overweight, did not even attempt to try and improve his sloppy delivery and he retained nothing Warthen taught him. I think he cared too much about getting paid and not improving himself. He has tremendous stuff when the green light is on, but when it shows red, it is all downhill. he should have at least worked on his mechanics...but he did nothing! that is what's pissing me off the most about him. He now is learning that he needs to improve. Didn't the past two years tell him something? If it takes him getting sent down to triple A than so be it. I hope it tells him and everyone else on the roster that they better pick up or be prepared to get shipped out..well at least the Non-core players..since i doubt Wright,Beltran,Reyes, and Delgado would go anywhere.

anyway Good win and great start from Maine tonight. Thats how i want to see him pitch. His delivery and control were spot on tonight. He dealt with the Walks and got through to the 6 and than green,putz,and k'rod shut em down. This is the way the mets need to win. oh and I am loving the energy from Omir Santos. This kid plays hard and gets it done with his pitchers. I hope the Mets keep him.

Now im worried about Castillo and Delgado. Both are now injured but i do not know how long and they are both hitting well. let's see in the rest of this series if Tatis and Cora can fill in.[/QUOTE]

Delgado has actually cooled off a bit as of late and a little rest for him I think is good. Castillo being hurt is not a surprise to me.

The Mets need to cut Sheffield. He is no better in LF than Murphy (Sheff dropped an easy fly ball last night) and he is taking away at bats from both Murphy and Church who at this point can both hit a lot better than a 40 year old Sheffield.
 
[quote name='DomLando']Delgado has actually cooled off a bit as of late and a little rest for him I think is good. Castillo being hurt is not a surprise to me.

The Mets need to cut Sheffield. He is no better in LF than Murphy (Sheff dropped an easy fly ball last night) and he is taking away at bats from both Murphy and Church who at this point can both hit a lot better than a 40 year old Sheffield.[/quote]

Yeah, I don't quite understand the love for Sheffield beyond name recognition. I was thinking maybe as a bat off the bench versus LOOGY's, but his platoon splits indicate that he isn't any better against lefties than righties.

Wasting a roster spot for the
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']If only Wakefield and his defense could be so on point the rest of the season. I swear he could pitch into his mid 50's.[/quote]


His biggest issue he has, is he inability to be somewhat consistent. You really never know which wakefield will show up, and that is due to him being a knuckleball pitcher. Personally, I would prefer to go with the young guns and let him go, or move him into the pen. I would prefer to see a staff with beckett/dice k/ lester/buckholtz/bowden with smoltz/penny as backups. But the sox have an excellent situation with him. Lifelong team option at a set really low rate.
 
[quote name='DomLando']Delgado has actually cooled off a bit as of late and a little rest for him I think is good. Castillo being hurt is not a surprise to me.

The Mets need to cut Sheffield. He is no better in LF than Murphy (Sheff dropped an easy fly ball last night) and he is taking away at bats from both Murphy and Church who at this point can both hit a lot better than a 40 year old Sheffield.[/QUOTE]

I think murph is just making rookie mistakes which is ok for me because his bat makes me forget that. Yeah i too dont get why Sheff is getting starts and they are platooning when there is no need to. Church is healthy and he is hitting well and same with Murph. What point is there to platoon if everything is ok in the OF.

Yeah castillo being hurt shouldnt surprise anyone but there is no doubt that he was getting hits when we needed him too. He has been our most consistent hitter besides Beltran. And its even better that he is hustling on every single play. I am really liking what im seeing from him so far.

[quote name='paddlefoot']Yeah, I don't quite understand the love for Sheffield beyond name recognition. I was thinking maybe as a bat off the bench versus LOOGY's, but his platoon splits indicate that he isn't any better against lefties than righties.

Wasting a roster spot for the
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Perfect time to try it, lefthander in a full windup who is very slow to the plate, 3rd baseman is at short in the shift. Posada had no idea but I'm not sure he could've done anything about it.[/quote]

That's true and all but you should never be able to steal home with a lefthanded batter at the plate. The runner has to cover 85 feet (depending on how big his lead is and how far in foul territory he is) and Posada didn't see him coming at all? There was nothing blocking his field of view whatsoever. Posada just fell asleep.

I'm pleasantly surprised that the Pirates, Royals, and Blue Jays are competitive again (at least for the time being). MLB desperately needed those franchises to have some success so they didn't have attendance figures in the triple digits in late May or June.

I just hope this isn't the same as when the ball was flying out of the yard and guys were walking around like they belonged in the WWF. With the WWE's continuing success even during a bad economy, I wouldn't be surprised if the major sports leagues came out and just admitted that the games weren't entirely fair but the product was going to be top notch. It'll be advertised along the lines that you'll always get your money's worth.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']Same pathetic story for the Cubs. The only time we score runs is off the long ball. 2 runs on 2 solo shots. If this keeps up the Cardinals are going to have stranglehold on the Central by the end of May!

If the Cubs are going to crap out this year I hope one of the young teams like the Pirates or Brewers win the Central. I'd throw the Reds in there but Dusty will always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Anyone but those damn Cardinals![/quote]
I'd love to see the Pirates or Brewers win the Central... :D

Well we lucked out yesterday, and using the running game really seemed to get into Lilly's head. The Diamondbacks have been hitting long balls as well, then not doing anything with RISP. I can't count how many times someone gets a leadoff double, only to watch the next two strikeout and the third hit an easy fly. The D-backs are like 2nd worse in the NL with RISP, first being the Nationals. :bomb:

Thank god Haren was able to get some run support though, he has been ridiculous on the mound and only has a 2-3 record to show for it.
 
[quote name='yukine']...so the game tomorrow should be interesting![/quote]

Yeah, I really wish we could bank some of those runs and carry them over into the next couple games. We scored 10 on Sunday, 2 on Monday, and now 11 again on Tuesday. It's been feast or famine for our offense all year. I honestly thought the way Zambrano struggled with his control to start the game the D-Backs were going to hammer him. Either that or I thought he was going to get tossed for barking at the ump.
 
Man the cubs got beat bad, of course I was out all day so I missed it.

The Cubs/D-backs suffer from the same ailment of getting tons of hits and runs in one game, like 10 runs or something, then struggle to scratch one or two runs in a game the next day. All I ask for is a little consistency! Felipe Lopez is our only guy getting hits on a normal basis.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']Same pathetic story for the Cubs. The only time we score runs is off the long ball. 2 runs on 2 solo shots. If this keeps up the Cardinals are going to have stranglehold on the Central by the end of May!

If the Cubs are going to crap out this year I hope one of the young teams like the Pirates or Brewers win the Central. I'd throw the Reds in there but Dusty will always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Anyone but those damn Cardinals![/QUOTE]


Now I know, as a Cubs fan you are conditioned to hate my Cards...but give them credit! The win with less than about any team around. Sure, they have Pujols who IMO is the best hitter in baseball, but he came up from our farm system. Every off-season, I get so pissed that the Cards don't make a big move, but then they still do decently with what they have. Dave Ducan is a miricle worker with what he does with pitching reeclaimation projects.


just wanted to say my piece. Hehe, I can't really hold it agaist ya. When the Cards are having a bad year, I always cheer for whoever ISN'T the Cards....and yes, I CHEERED for Bartman ;)
 
[quote name='jousley']Now I know, as a Cubs fan you are conditioned to hate my Cards...but give them credit! The win with less than about any team around. Sure, they have Pujols who IMO is the best hitter in baseball, but he came up from our farm system. Every off-season, I get so pissed that the Cards don't make a big move, but then they still do decently with what they have. Dave Ducan is a miricle worker with what he does with pitching reeclaimation projects.


just wanted to say my piece. Hehe, I can't really hold it agaist ya. When the Cards are having a bad year, I always cheer for whoever ISN'T the Cards....and yes, I CHEERED for Bartman ;)[/quote]


I will give you that. Every year the experts try and count the Cards out and every year all they do is compete. It's part of my DNA to hate the Cardinals but besides maybe the Twins and the Marlins they have done the most with the least each year.

I actually feel bad for Bartman. Yeah he should've left that ball alone but even after that play the Cubs were still up 3-0. It's not Bartman's fault that Prior imploded, Gonzales couldn't handle a tailor made double play ball, and worst of all Dusty doesn't come out to the mound until the team was buried.
 
Looks like you got an ugly Beckett tonight. Seven runs in 4 2/3 innings, yikes.
It's always amusing to see a position player take the mound in blowouts, though.

It is so ridiculous that Max Scherzer is still without his first career win in the big leagues, he was ridiculous tonight against the Brewers. Then of course the game is handed over to the bullpen (Tom Gordon) who then proceeds to walk a couple batters, throws a few wild pitches to move them up, all of which would score to cost the game. :bomb: I don't really blame Gordon though, he just came back from a long injury, I more blame Bob Melvin for keeping him in there when he was clearly struggling to get strikes.
 
A little late but...wow...the MLB Network is the greatest thing that has ever graced my television. I have barely changed the channel in two months. Between that and MLB Home Plate on XM, my brain is now leaking baseball information.
 
Anybody watching the Giant-Rockie game? I'm listening to it, and it sounds like Johnson is really on. 5ks and no hits or walks (has been a big issue for him so far) through 3.
 
I am going to nitpick a little about today's game.

well typical mets fashion. they never fail to disappoint. I wouldn't have mind if the GWR was a base knock or homer....but a WALK?! so the ghost of Aaron Heilman lives on. And another UGLY outing for Perez..sure it was only 4 runs but 6 walks in 2 1/3 inning is pretty dam bad. What sucks is that there is no one good to take his spot in the rotation. Niese has been sucking ass for Buffalo...which that minor league team sucks too(3-18)...Holt and Redding are not ready....and that leaves us back to thursday's start with Ollie again. they need to shake him up and get in to his head. Again he has absolutley no command over his pitches. if it was the first 2 than i gave him slack..but its his 4th start. he surely had enough time to improve his command and delivery. At least the Mets the fought back and tied it...but Beltran missed a gift when Cora got that triple for them.

anyway Ken Takahashi was awesome today. other than that...the mets need to a win from Maine tomorrow.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']I am going to nitpick a little about today's game.

well typical mets fashion. they never fail to disappoint. I wouldn't have mind if the GWR was a base knock or homer....but a WALK?! so the ghost of Aaron Heilman lives on. And another UGLY outing for Perez..sure it was only 4 runs but 6 walks in 2 1/3 inning is pretty dam bad. What sucks is that there is no one good to take his spot in the rotation. Niese has been sucking ass for Buffalo...which that minor league team sucks too(3-18)...Holt and Redding are not ready....and that leaves us back to thursday's start with Ollie again. they need to shake him up and get in to his head. Again he has absolutley no command over his pitches. if it was the first 2 than i gave him slack..but its his 4th start. he surely had enough time to improve his command and delivery. At least the Mets the fought back and tied it...but Beltran missed a gift when Cora got that triple for them.

anyway Ken Takahashi was awesome today. other than that...the mets need to a win from Maine tomorrow.[/quote]

Last night on the MLB Network they did a whole segment about why Perez struggles. It was a whole thing about his mechanics getting way out of whack.
 
The San Francisco Giants above .500? Woah what?

Zito pitching well? Randy Johnson shutting out teams? Teh Franchise deadlier than ever? Bengie Molina best catcher in baseball?
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']The San Francisco Giants above .500? Woah what?

Zito pitching well? Randy Johnson shutting out teams? Teh Franchise deadlier than ever? Bengie Molina best catcher in baseball?[/quote]
Think it will last?
 
Bengie Molina is constantly underrated. I voted for him for the all-star game last year, his numbers were WAY beter than the other catchers in the NL, he'll probably get snubbed again this year.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']Last night on the MLB Network they did a whole segment about why Perez struggles. It was a whole thing about his mechanics getting way out of whack.[/QUOTE]

dam i missed that. I was at work today. But i may scene it before. Was Leiter the one analyzing his delivery? if it was, than yeah...they are way out of whack. he needs to find a way to be consistent with his good delivery. he will do good for a either 1 to 4 innings but after that his knee buckles and he loses all command because his delivery starts to get sloppy. i just hope he pulls through because i really like him and we need another big pitcher besides johan and pelfry.
 
[quote name='yukine']Think it will last?[/QUOTE]

Honestly? Could go either way.....we coulda been 15-8 and we coulda been 4-19....it's all about our offense....if Pablo Sandoval keeps playing well then yeah I think we have a slight shot at the Wild Card......our pitching nucleus of Franchise/Cain/Johnson/Sanchez/Zito gives a shot any game....today for example, the offense was horrid but our pitching kept us in it....
 
I love when they break stuff down on the MLB Network. Reynolds showed the other night how drastically different Andruw Jones' approach at the plate is from last year to this year.

And I do think the Giants have a great chance of competing all year. It does really all come down to the offense. They have to find ways to scratch out some runs. That pitching staff is quite good, especially if Zito and Johnson can throw up starts like they have recently.
 
[quote name='lordwow']Bengie Molina is constantly underrated. I voted for him for the all-star game last year, his numbers were WAY beter than the other catchers in the NL, he'll probably get snubbed again this year.[/quote]


Yadier might be up there and Jose is a great backup for the Yankees.
 
Lordy... Rauch pitching against Manny with the bases loaded. This will end well.

Edit: Looks like he is finally improving! Gave up a run but I'll take that against Manny.

Just an ugly game tonight, pitching was bad, hitting, fielding, etc. Although it was cool to see the D-backs turn a triple play.
 
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[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']As a Yankee fan, I see Molina all the time, and he is a fabulous defensive catcher.[/quote]

Even after last nights terrible perfomance? That game took forever once they started and I got worried right after Joe was tossed and the Yanks hit back to back jacks on 2 straight pitches.
 
Damn, just when the Cubs seem to be gaining a little momentum Big Z gets sent to the DL. What's gotten into The Riot? He went 600+ ABs without a homer and now he's hit 3 in his last 4 games including a grand slam.

Locally it's kinda nice to see the Royals fans finally have something to cheer about. Greinke is just FILTHY!
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']Even after last nights terrible perfomance? That game took forever once they started and I got worried right after Joe was tossed and the Yanks hit back to back jacks on 2 straight pitches.[/quote]

Even after the terrible performance...what? I'm still a Yankee fan or Molina is a good backup? Both! ;)

Molina had one of his rougher game, but you can mark a lot of that up to the weather and the fact that Hughes was not his hitting his spots and, because of that, was getting a bit squeezed.
 
Well Ollie to pen to work on his mechanics and Maine had a strong performance last night. It would have been even better if Castillo didnt rush that throw to first but finally the mets came back and won. Lets see if hernandez can make it two against those pesky Braves.
 
molina should be starting...the yanks shouldn't have signed texeria, as they now have a grossly overpaid catcher that should be playing 1b but will be stuck as a DH.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']Even after the terrible performance...what? I'm still a Yankee fan or Molina is a good backup? Both! ;)

Molina had one of his rougher game, but you can mark a lot of that up to the weather and the fact that Hughes was not his hitting his spots and, because of that, was getting a bit squeezed.[/quote]

About Molina's rough outing. Wouldn't expect one game to end your fanhood. ;)
 
Giants split the series with the Cubs......

Franchise.....stop it seriously....it's not fair.....

Off to Denver to shit over the Rookies.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']molina should be starting...the yanks shouldn't have signed texeria, as they now have a grossly overpaid catcher that should be playing 1b but will be stuck as a DH.[/quote]

Grossly overpaid is stretching it a bit far. Posada is one of the best offensive catchers in baseball. He's in the top 5 amongst catchers in just about all of the major categories, as he was in 2007 and probably would have been last year if he didn't get hurt. And he's good enough behind the plate that he isn't a liability on defense. This was a freak kind of injury that should hopefully clear up in a few weeks, and he'll be back behind the plate.

Molina is not cut out to play 100+ games. The most games he appeared in before last season was 78. And last year, you could just tell he was physically beaten down by the end of the year.
 
Anybody catching this odd, somewhat dominating performance by Chamberlain? The first five Boston hitters reached:

Single
Single
Single
Homerun
Single

After that, Joba struck out 12, walked two, and gave up one hit. He just left with two outs in the 6th.
 
Wasn't a big fan of Joba throwing at Jason Bay there.

Girardi likes to burn though a lot of pitchers doesn't he? I suppose he has to, with that bullpen.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Giants split the series with the Cubs......

Franchise.....stop it seriously....it's not fair.....

Off to Denver to shit over the Rookies.[/quote]

Yeah they could've stopped the game after SF scored 3 in the first. I knew that's all the runs they need. Especially against a team like us that struggles to score runs every other night.
 
Good to see Justin Upton hitting again, he was hitting below the Mendoza line at the start of the season. Tonight he hit two home runs at PETCO, one off Peavy.

Garland was great on the mound as well.
 
dam where did this Chan Ho Park come from. He was on fire all night long...but the no run support for Johan Santana continues as the Mets can only muster 1 run off an errant throw by Werth...but Ill take it. I hope they start giving him Run Support soon because i do not know how long he can keep winning these low run games. Sooner or later it will bite the mets in the ass.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']dam where did this Chan Ho Park come from. He was on fire all night long...but the no run support for Johan Santana continues as the Mets can only muster 1 run off an errant throw by Werth...but Ill take it. I hope they start giving him Run Support soon because i do not know how long he can keep winning these low run games. Sooner or later it will bite the mets in the ass.[/QUOTE]

They only had 2 hits!!! Against Chan Ho Park. The offense was just asleep.

After the game the other day, when Delgado dropped the easy pop up I thought he would be man enough to say he was a fool for not using 2 hands. Instead he just kept telling everyone how important his 2 run single was the inning before. Carlos disappointed me.

They are on a 3 game winning streak but they don't even look good doing it. I think the expectations for this team are way to high. I feel that they will miss the playoffs again, which might be a good thing since they can then hopefully get rid of Omar.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Holy shit. Manny is supposedly suspended for 50 games for a positive substance test.[/quote]
Yeah, if this were any other time I'd probably be laughing my ass off, but since he and the Dodgers were playing so well I was getting excited to see how far they could go.

Edit: guess it's not steroids, but still not clear what it was.
 
Why is it former Red Sox players never get caught with the Red Sox on illegal drugs/steroids? I always find that amusing :D Maybe Papi isn't taking this "medicine" that Manny had him using years ago to hit those homers ;)

50 games damn lol.
 
:lol:

I hate the Dodgers, but even I have to admit that they are going to still be tough to beat, even sans Manny. Their lineup is ridiculous.
 
I would say Manny being Manny, but I'm not going to rub salt in Dodgers wounds.

I will say this though, if I was a major league palyer, making millions, I'd run EVERYTHING prescribed to me or bought over-the-counter through MLB before I take it. I don't care if it is a damn suppository.
 
But wait....I thought only Bonds/McGwire/Clemens did steroids?

Pujols just admit it before you get caught....and yes Pujols is on the juice.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'll laugh my ass off for you.

Shame he's only one of hundreds who use.[/quote]

[quote name='ph33r m3']But wait....I thought only Bonds/McGwire/Clemens did steroids?

Pujols just admit it before you get caught....and yes Pujols is on the juice.[/quote]
Every recent report on the story has all but confirmed that this is not steroids/HGH related.

I'm not saying whatever he took was okay, but I wouldn't lump him in with that certain crowd.
 
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