AMC's The Walking Dead - S3 2nd half starts 02/10/13 9PM ET

sendme said:
I'm to the point of just watching to see how bad it gets. The good episodes seem few and far between. The best one so far has been the first one with the governor. I really expected something different. I was thinking maybe he was trying to change and blacked out when he did what he did. Then he took over the camp.
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Felt the same way, this finale sucked something fierce. Guess we were too spoiled by how good those few Governor only episodes were.

cranky2 said:
I hate to be a hater, but I kinda thought this finale sucked.

It was kind of like watching a new director's vision of last season's "meh" prison battle... this one being only a little more eventful. How is it we're in the apocalypse, and yet Governor can still raise two derp armies from the same local population? How did these morons survive this long? Why are the idiots blasting random holes into random walls with a random, antiquated tank (whch, somehow, happens to have ordinance?) - if the entire purpose of attacking the prison is to... have its walls for protection?

Losing Hershal sucks, but I also hated Dale dying, too. Maybe someone else will fill that void. Ole dudes from The Wire are both good actors, I could see either of them suddenly being the "moral center" for the group. Assuming the group reforms.
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Lol, that tank was shooting at everything but ricks group which would have ended this "war" in 2 minutes.

-Of course a zombie somehow absorbs assault rifle bullets to protect Daryl didn't we have this same garbage a couple of seasons back

 
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Finally got caught up on the last two episodes last night. Thought they were great and lived this half season. Really looking forward to seeing where they go next.
 
Ok I just watched the final two episodes...I knew what was going to happen to
Hershel because of the comics (different character/same death). Anyone else think that his death was like obi wan? The smile and acceptance of his death as well as reflecting on his protege (Rick)? It's the hero's journey, so the mentor has to die.

I hope they have some type of rendezvous point, you think they would have learned after the farm, but I would have closed my cell door every night, so maybe they didn't learn anything.

It looked like too much blood for the baby to have been picked up, but maybe the medic or someone else that was wounded picked her up. 

Still think the medic is the rat person. If they end up saying it was the girl, I'll be pissed because the flashlight was obviously adult height.

I was right about the tank (different tank I suppose), but I think that was in the comics too.

I assume the lesbian sister and the govenor's ex made it out alive (though the one might have hearing damage from the grenade).

If I were Rick I would have tried to explain that "the gov killed all his people and the rest they took in" a little more clearly.

I initially thought the little girl found a makeshift wood coffin, but I guess they had to lay out the flood area sign to explain the walker.

Where the fuck is Carl's shooting skills, they should have been able to peg the gov from there. I'm not a gun person, but Darryl's had a dot scope on it.

I really want to see a spoof with Kenan Thompson as tyreese. Maybe saying something like "Thank you little white girl for saving me!" I wouldn't mind a 'hammertime' reference either.

These are my first thoughts, but I may think of something else later on. Overall I enjoyed the finale.

 
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I enjoyed Michone's parts of the episode; but I wouldn't mind if Rick and Carl just weren't on the show anymore. 

"You could die and I would be just fine." - Carl. I know how he feels. 

 
Vinyl said:
It was alright, nothing too special. It was one of those character development type episodes.
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i just hope the first 4 episodes are not like this and just showing how they all get back together.

boring as hell. do the zombies smell people or what . How did they know they was in that house

dude carl is going to be pooping pudding for a long long time also if you have not ate for days and then ate all of that food you be in so much pain

 
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slidecage said:
i just hope the first 4 episodes are not like this and just showing how they all get back together.

boring as hell. do the zombies smell people or what . How did they know they was in that house

dude carl is going to be pooping pudding for a long long time also if you have not ate for days and then ate all of that food you be in so much pain
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If the next episode is just Maggie looking for Glenn then I'll probably skip out the next couple episodes haha

IIRC that was when Carl was yelling at Rick to wake up right? The noise probably attracted them.

 
slidecage said:
boring as hell. do the zombies smell people or what . How did they know they was in that house
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To a degree they can sense/smell "living flesh" but not for long distances. That's why a few times you see them coat themselves in zombie guts to avoid them. But for noises they will relentlessly try to get were the sound was made unless they get distracted. Even following gun shot bangs for miles.

 
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pitfallharry219 said:
Teen-angst Carl looks like he's 25.

I love how #KillCarl is a trending topic on Twitter right now.
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Haha, it still amuses me that some people don't understand that Carl is the main character in the entire series...not Rick...not Daryl, etc. The show is about Carl.

slidecage said:
i just hope the first 4 episodes are not like this and just showing how they all get back together.

boring as hell. do the zombies smell people or what . How did they know they was in that house
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I realize that this is a slidecage post, but again...if you want to bitch about the show, at least pay attention. Carl was screaming at the top of his lungs when the zombies started banging on the door. That MAY have had a hand in attracting their attention.

As for Carl in general, he was a super dick in this episode...which is exactly how I'd expect a 14-15 year old to act when he's angry at his father and feeling full of himself. He was also 100% putting up a front and was actually scared out of his mind. Even when trying to man up and show how tough he was, he broke down into tears. It's sad that these things go over people's heads. Yes, Carl was obnoxious in this episode. But he was SUPPOSED to be obnoxious. It's part of the character arc for Christ's sake.

 
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Rodimus said:
So Carl eats like a gallon of chocolate pudding? I don't care how hungry you are, the kid should be barfin' up a storm
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He should have held on to that can because I'm sure the house's plumbing doesn't work anymore and the majority of that pudding is on it's way out the back. I'm sure the noise from that literal shit storm is going to attract at least a few more walkers. Just picture the Dumb and Dumber Turbo-Lax scene.

 
n8rockerasu said:
Haha, it still amuses me that some people don't understand that Carl is the main character in the entire series...not Rick...not Daryl, etc. The show is about Carl.

I realize that this is a slidecage post, but again...if you want to bitch about the show, at least pay attention. Carl was screaming at the top of his lungs when the zombies started banging on the door. That MAY have had a hand in attracting their attention.

As for Carl in general, he was a super dick in this episode...which is exactly how I'd expect a 14-15 year old to act when he's angry at his father and feeling full of himself. He was also 100% putting up a front and was actually scared out of his mind. Even when trying to man up and show how tough he was, he broke down into tears. It's sad that these things go over people's heads. Yes, Carl was obnoxious in this episode. But he was SUPPOSED to be obnoxious. It's part of the character arc for Christ's sake.
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The zombie crowd isn't known for it's appreciation of nuance. I do have to disagree about Carl being the main character though. This is an ensemble show with no true main (lead) character. That's why there's a constantly shifting spotlight from character to character.

 
n8rockerasu said:
Haha, it still amuses me that some people don't understand that Carl is the main character in the entire series...not Rick...not Daryl, etc. The show is about Carl.

I realize that this is a slidecage post, but again...if you want to bitch about the show, at least pay attention. Carl was screaming at the top of his lungs when the zombies started banging on the door. That MAY have had a hand in attracting their attention.

As for Carl in general, he was a super dick in this episode...which is exactly how I'd expect a 14-15 year old to act when he's angry at his father and feeling full of himself. He was also 100% putting up a front and was actually scared out of his mind. Even when trying to man up and show how tough he was, he broke down into tears. It's sad that these things go over people's heads. Yes, Carl was obnoxious in this episode. But he was SUPPOSED to be obnoxious. It's part of the character arc for Christ's sake.
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The zombie crowd isn't known for it's appreciation of nuance. I do have to disagree about Carl being the main character though. This is an ensemble show with no true main (lead) character. That's why there's a constantly shifting spotlight from character to character.

 
neocisco said:
The zombie crowd isn't known for it's appreciation of nuance. I do have to disagree about Carl being the main character though. This is an ensemble show with no true main (lead) character. That's why there's a constantly shifting spotlight from character to character.
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Well, I meant more in terms of the entire TWD universe. For people who read the comics, it's a little more obvious. But I talked about it with my wife (who hasn't read the comics), and she said she could see how it could be more about Carl...if you're looking at it from the perspective of how the zombie apocalypse shapes a person during their most influential years. And honestly, to me, that makes for a better story than "Cop tries to protect his family, goes crazy, and loses almost everything".

The scene with Carl and the video games from this episode was a great example of this. Things that used to seem so normal to him are now just a "resource". And the things he does now to survive will basically be reflexes for the rest of his life. If Robert Kirkman and AMC really have aspirations of carrying this show on for a decade (or more), there will without question come a time when Carl takes over and becomes leader. That seems clear as day to me.

 
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As far as long term potential for the series, I think that's a good assessment.  In it's current incarnation, though, I still think he's (for the time being) just a part of the whole with the possibility of growing into a larger role.

In a related note, it's somewhat ridiculous that people take the kid to task for his acting.  He's not bad, just inexperienced.  Besides, he's gotten noticeably better since the show started.  How many kids are good at anything at that age?

 
I enjoyed the character development and back-story for Michonne.
We are finally shown how those two collared walkers from her introduction were related to her, and the fact that she lost a child (though there were hints of this in past episodes).
It was a bit of an emotional roller coaster, but she realized there are people she cares for even in this post-apocalyptic world.  Losing the prison and her friends, we can see why she had to emotionally harden herself again, only to break out when she realizes that is not her anymore.

Carl's development was alright.  I think there a lot of reasons why Carl annoys us, but it mainly boils down to two reasons for me.  Firstly, the acting is a bit sub-par, but sloooowly getting better each season.  I kinda give it a pass because you know, kid actors.  The other reason is the character itself is in those awkward pre-teen/ rebellious teen years that NOBODY really enjoys.  In real life, whenever you see one of those kids, the immediate reaction (besides wanting to punch them) is "what a dick, he needs to grow up", "his parents ain't raised him right," or  "this is why I condone parental corporal punishment."  At least by the end, he realizes that being a man is not about being able to do things alone, but realizing that he can't.  Unfortunately, I'm sure we'll see him struggle more with his daddy issues as the season progresses.

From the preview, it looks like they'll alternate episodes between the splintered groups, maybe for the rest of the season (?).   I don't mind it, since it is an opportunity to highlight some characters that didn't get much screen time last half-season. It gives us a breather from those annoying ones doing the same routine too.  Being out in the open again means more action, and nothing wrong with that.

 
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CarnivalMadness said:
I enjoyed the character development and back-story for Michonne.
We are finally shown how those two collared walkers from her introduction were related to her, and the fact that she lost a child (though there were hints of this in past episodes).
It was a bit of an emotional roller coaster, but she realized there are people she cares for even in this post-apocalyptic world. Losing the prison and her friends, we can see why she had to emotionally harden herself again, only to break out when she realizes that is not her anymore.

Carl's development was alright. I think there a lot of reasons why Carl annoys us, but it mainly boils down to two reasons for me. Firstly, the acting is a bit sub-par, but sloooowly getting better each season. I kinda give it a pass because you know, kid actors. The other reason is the character itself is in those awkward pre-teen/ rebellious teen years that NOBODY really enjoys. In real life, whenever you see one of those kids, the immediate reaction (besides wanting to punch them) is "what a dick, he needs to grow up", "his parents ain't raised him right," or "this is why I condone parental corporal punishment." At least by the end, he realizes that being a man is not about being able to do things alone, but realizing that he can't. Unfortunately, I'm sure we'll see him struggle more with his daddy issues as the season progresses.

From the preview, it looks like they'll alternate episodes between the splintered groups, maybe for the rest of the season (?). I don't mind it, since it is an opportunity to highlight some characters that didn't get much screen time last half-season. It gives us a breather from those annoying ones doing the same routine too. Being out in the open again means more action, and nothing wrong with that.
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pretty sure they said before the two zombies was her boyfriend (husband) and brother would rather had a flashback to what happened at her camp

 
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Vinyl said:
Abraham :hot:

I hope Lizzie gets killed off soon, she has some bad blood in her.
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I'm expecting her and her sister to be versions of the twins from the book and will have similar fates.

And is it me or is Abraham's crew a little off, almost like a they just picked up some cosplayers from comicon?
 
yeah..I found it a little disturbing that the kid would try to suffocate the baby like that.  The other girl running off reminded me what happened to that other girl who ran off in season 2 only to be brought back as a walker. 

 
I really hope Maggie was somewhat standing at a angle cause ol dude putting a cap  in zombies eye should have nailed her as well.

 
You know what kinda is starting to bother me is that when they stab walkers in the head at close range.  Some times its in response to a sneaky walker but I am really surprised that NO ONE has yet to stab themselves or another member of the group by accident. 

Felt sorry for the old guy on the tracks.  They should have put him out of his misery...knowing what's to come. 

I have a bad feeling about this safe spot.  It can't be the Alexandra Safe Zone....they are way too far from VA/DC.  Plus in this world who in their mind would advertise such a place knowing how bad some people are now that the world has ended.

The next episode better give an update of what happened to the government/military and rest of the world. 

 
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ITDEFX said:
I have a bad feeling about this safe spot. It can't be the Alexandra Safe Zone....they are way too far from VA/DC. Plus in this world who in their mind would advertise such a place knowing how bad some people are now that the world has ended.
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Maybe it's a trap set up by the cannibals? Possibly something unrelated to the book, like the CDC in Season 1?

 
sp00ge said:
Maybe it's a trap set up by the cannibals? Possibly something unrelated to the book, like the CDC in Season 1?
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Good call on the cannibals. Maybe the group from the comic.

The little girls will probably end up like the twins from the comic or maybe Carol will have to put her down.

The three at the end did look pretty hokey. Like really awesome cosplay from Comic-Con, but not quite right for the show.

Yesterday was a good example of depending on the situation/person the zombies act so much different. Against unknowns zombies are able to pretty much overwhelm people very quickly and take bites out of arms, necks, legs, etc. Against main characters you have about a 25 second wrestling match before they get knifed in the head. Like with the little blonde girl with Daryl.

Glenn pretty much just plows through thirty of them like he is a 350 lb linebacker. There was no stopping the Glenn Train.

 
sp00ge said:
I'm expecting her and her sister to be versions of the twins from the book and will have similar fates.

And is it me or is Abraham's crew a little off, almost like a they just picked up some cosplayers from comicon?
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Abraham defiantly does, but they got the look down so there's some fan service which the show doesn't normally do. But the other two look fine to me. Then again they're on the screen for a whole 2 seconds.

The older of the two girls is going to try something crazy and Carol's going to put her down. Calling it.

 
yeah that revealing shot of Glen in the Riot Gear suit totally made me LOL.  Wait weren't there any trucks from the invasion still around?

 
Rodimus said:
Abraham defiantly does, but they got the look down so there's some fan service which the show doesn't normally do. But the other two look fine to me. Then again they're on the screen for a whole 2 seconds.

The older of the two girls is going to try something crazy and Carol's going to put her down. Calling it.
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I think it'll be the younger sister.

The show seems to be building her up from a weakling to someone who attains the inner strength needed to survive in that world.

I can see it now.

Older Crazy Sister is about to put down an ill Carol for what she thinks is the betterment of the group. The Younger Sister deliberates, sobbing, and finally finds it within herself to end her sister's madness. Bang. She says a thank you as the Older Crazy Sister dies.

 
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