CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

There're codes like that for Xbox, etc. courtesy of Bing, but I don't think I've ever seen a PSN code for under $10, barring perhaps promo stuff.

EDIT: I was wrong. GS Power-Up Rewards does still have them, for 3900 points.

 
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Fayzen said:
Bought me a used VITA. The rear touchpad sucks donkey balls. The games suck mostly - i only speak about all the crossplay/PS+ games.

I hereby name my Vita "THE LITTLE BLACK INDIE GAME MACHINE".
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If you have PS+ (and haven't decided you hate it on the PS4), you should try out Binding of Isaac: Rebirth. I'll admit that the pixel-art graphics don't fit quite as well as the original's, but it's still a fun timewaster with plenty of content and rage-inducing losses. If you like shooters I found Killzone Mercenary to be better than I was expecting, and pretty good looking at times to boot.

 
RoyTheAlmighty said:
Pretty much this. Discussing whether we should promote locked spots within the community is perfectly fine, but the moment everyone starts accusing each other of their shares coming from unknown sources, I would say it's starting to get pretty hostile.
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I don't think anyone made accusations. People just wrongfully associate argument with negative vibes regardless of if it is reasonable or not. People shoving something like this under the rug or acting like it's a topic that has to be diffused immediately is how people get taken advantage of. Nobody seems to care until it happens to them. I feel I made some pretty good points and if people wanna ignore it then whatever. But nobody made accusations
 
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Fayzen said:
Bought me a used VITA. The rear touchpad sucks donkey balls. The games suck mostly - i only speak about all the crossplay/PS+ games.

I hereby name my Vita "THE LITTLE BLACK INDIE GAME MACHINE".

Here is my testing results, purely objective, full of hatespeak etc pp:

  • Pix the Cat: Good funky great music aaarrghh wtf why are the controls start to lag if i am on lv20 and on FEVER. FK.
  • The Swapper: Not my kind of game (read: It sucks)
  • Luftrausers: Awesome. Now i own the game on PC/PS3/PS4/Vita. Trophies still bugged though.
  • Hotline Miami: Awesome. Same as above^^
  • Titan Attacks: Would never pay a cent for Galaga remix. fk that.
  • Resogun: Wtf is this. Me no like. Looks pretty though.
  • Minecraft: Drop some acid, makes the "game" more fun. Also, all my houses look like shit. I cant Minecraft at all.
  • Little King Story: Goofy translation. Good game.
  • Soul Sacrifice: Atrocity. What the hell does this game want to be. Fk. I regret the download time.
  • Fifa Football: Surprisingly good! And i never play football games. Manager mode is awesome. Trophies bugged :(
  • PS All-Stars Battle Royale: If you want this crap, drop me a line. I may even ship the game to you for free, my level of disgust is that high.
  • NFS Most Wanted: Same as PS3 version. May be good, may be bad. I say, above average. And bad soundtrack.
  • Dragons Crown: Yeah. No. If you want to look at wobbling drawn tits of monstrous proportions, then this is the game for you. A hint: You can also watch real porn on the vita without problems.
  • PIxeljunk Shooter: Ugly crap.
  • Pixeljunk TD: Surprisingly good. Not all games with Pixeljunk in the title are JUNK indeed. HUEHUEHUE.
  • Street fighter X Tekken: Pretty, but shallow and laggy. And what the fuck with the gems, like seriously. If you ever try online, get some lube first. A whole bucket is a good amount i think.
  • Uncharted Golden Abyss: Finally a game where everything is nice. If you dont have it, buy it.
  • Rogue Legacy: Good, hard, rage inducing and ugly. If you can take it, play it.
  • All the LEGO Games: Shit. If you see one, you saw all.
  • Kick and Fennix: Too tight jumpcontrols. Hard is good, but ALMOST FKING IMPOSSIBLE is pure rage. Not good.
  • Joe Danger: Ehhhh...5minute fun. Try for free, buy if you like.
  • Rainbow Moon: Bad story, good grind game for long train tours. Dont buy orbs from sony!
  • Muramasa Rebirth: Cant install, looks pretty though.
  • Sonic All-Star Racing: Crap in my humble hating opinion.
  • Rayman Origins: I hated the Rayman games on the PSone. And i love this one. Maybe thats because i got older and senile or because they finally decided to make Rayman games not only pretty but fun, too. Great game. Really.
  • Touch My Katamari: What the fk is this game. I cant even...O_O But, the chaos is FUN. Like, REAL FUN. Try it :)
  • Jax and Dexter Trilogy: Same as PS3. Good controls, pretty graphics, nice sound.
  • Sly cooper: Same as above.
  • FEZ: Dungpile. Tries too hard to be a hipster piece of shit. It works, it IS a hipster piece of feces. Dont waste your precious memorycard space.
  • Velocity 2X: Woaaaaahhh prrreetttyyy. And fast. Good game.
  • Unit 13: Nice looking shooter.
  • Oddworld: Strangers Wrath: Too much weirdness for me. Cannot form an opinion.
  • Moto GP 13: Very good if you like bike racing. Otherwise, pass.
  • Dynasty Warriors: Same as above. Ill pass on this one.
  • Sine Mora: Strange name for a damn good game.
And now to my favourite part of the Vita: Remote Play. Damn, this is good. If the game which you are streaming supports controls (aka not the shitty L2R2 L3R3 on the rear pad) you can actually play a PS4 game WHILE SITTING ON THE WHITE THRONE OF POWER. Glorious.
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Hmm so if you already have a ps4 what you're saying is don't get a vita cause the only game you won't have played would have been uncharted. Got it. Heh, I've become such a 3ds fanboy since I got one. It's sooo good
 
wpress said:
I'll probably get a new 3DS in a couple of weeks, but no Amiibos. My first purchase will undoubtedly be Mario Golf
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If you don't care about amiibos just get a refurb 3ds xl I think they're 140 now. New 3ds ain't significantly better imo. 3ds load times are already near instant on the old xl and only one exclusive names for the new 3ds. Only advantage is being able to see 3d at a wider angle. I didn't think id enjoy the 3ds as much as I do. Put more time into new leaf than any ps4 game
 
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I was going to buy the new 3DS XL but they were sold out everywhere, and it's not like I live in a small area. Average 700,000 population and not a single one in stock anywhere. I'll wait for a Black Friday/Cyber Monday deal I guess. Not paying $300 for one on eBay & it's not like I'm short of games to play. I still have a backlog of 200+ PS1/PS2/PS3 games I haven't played/finished. Will probably get a Wii U first anyway just because Xenoblade Chronicles X looks so amazing.

 
3DS has a bunch of good first-party titles, plus some great RPGs and SRPGs. Vita has mediocre RPGs but some good console ports, great VNs (although cloud saving and lack of game-breaking glitches aside, an inferior version of Virtue's Last Reward), plus much better indie support. They've both got a bunch of great games, I just wish Atlus would step up their Vita support instead of saddling it with shit like Persona 4: The Dancing.

 
Pravado said:
If you don't care about amiibos just get a refurb 3ds xl I think they're 140 now. New 3ds ain't significantly better imo
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The 3D on the new 3DS is leaps and bounds better than the original model. If a person doesn't use or care about the 3D, then absolutely just grab the original XL for less.

EDIT: But, there will be games released that won't run on the older model.
 
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FEGuy said:
3DS has a bunch of good first-party titles, plus some great RPGs and SRPGs. Vita has mediocre RPGs but some good console ports, great VNs (although cloud saving and lack of game-breaking glitches aside, an inferior version of Virtue's Last Reward), plus much better indie support. They've both got a bunch of great games, I just wish Atlus would step up their Vita support instead of saddling it with shit like Persona 4: The Dancing.
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Vita is dead bro. No install base = nobody gonna make games for it. Sony announced nothing new for it at ps experience. Its got like 2-3 games that aren't already on ps4 worth playing. Even guys that slaved over vita like Greg miller claim it's dead. Main reason I went with the 3ds
 
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I won't argue that retail support, at least, is a lot lighter than it should be. But there's still a hell of a lot of indie support, plus we're finally getting a portable English version of Steins;gate. And you can't tell me you're not excited for Hatoful Boyfriend on Vita.

 
Pravado said:
I don't think anyone made accusations. People just wrongfully associate argument with negative vibes regardless of if it is reasonable or not. People shoving something like this under the rug or acting like it's a topic that has to be diffused immediately is how people get taken advantage of. Nobody seems to care until it happens to them. I feel I made some pretty good points and if people wanna ignore it then whatever. But nobody made accusations
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Don't get me wrong, I don't think we should just take whatever someone has to offer and ignore where does it come from, however I believe that vets like QDizzle and Raiborg have earned themselves enough trust around here that we don't need to get suspicious just because Raiborg offers cheap timeshares. Also people may easily feel negative vibes when in the middle of a discussion about locked spots half of your elaborate post suddenly changes topic to Raiborg and the source of his shares.

 
Only thing that interested me about Vita is remote play, but that can be done on nearly any rooted Android device. No need for an Xperia phone or Vita for it. Even my old Galaxy S3 has remote play running flawlessly so I can poop and play Super Stardust Ultra without missing a beat, lol.

 
RoyTheAlmighty said:
Don't get me wrong, I don't think we should just take whatever someone has to offer and ignore where does it come from, however I believe that vets like QDizzle and Raiborg have earned themselves enough trust around here that we don't need to get suspicious just because Raiborg offers cheap timeshares. Also people may easily feel negative vibes when in the middle of a discussion about locked spots half of your elaborate post suddenly changes topic to Raiborg and the source of his shares.
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Clearly you weren't around for zaspera. He had more rep than either of those guys and one day broke bad and screwed a lot of ppl over out of nowhere. Anyone will tell you he was a made man, fully trusted up to that point.

I also made a second post explaining how I wasn't calling out raiborg, merely using him as an example, and I never once called out qd wtf
 
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Pravado said:
Vita is dead bro. No install base = nobody gonna make games for it. Sony announced nothing new for it at ps experience. Its got like 2-3 games that aren't already on ps4 worth playing. Even guys that slaved over vita like Greg miller claim it's dead. Main reason I went with the 3ds
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Vita games released so far this year in NA: 19

3DS games released so far this year in NA: 2

Vita is dead. I might as well throw mine out.

 
I absolutely loved my Vita. I lost it or it was stolen. I've missed it much. If Sony would just pretend like it existed, I'd buy another one.
 
Thermopyle said:
Vita games released so far this year in NA: 19
3DS games released so far this year in NA: 2

Vita is dead. I might as well throw mine out.
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That's very much false there are new releases on the eshop every week. Plus quality over quantity. Who wants to play games like titan attacks or pix the cat over majoras mask and monster hunter 4 lol
 
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Thermopyle said:
Vita games released so far this year in NA: 19
3DS games released so far this year in NA: 2

Vita is dead. I might as well throw mine out.
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Quantity does not equal quality. If Sony actually put some power behind the machine and believed in it, they'd have a hit. As it stands, fans can't have too much faith in the system with the lack of attention it gets at events.
 
Eh, i dont know. I still have my fat old psp and it works like a charm. Just thought i go with the times and get me a modern mobile gaming console. I was wrong. Sad day for me, because i cannot stand anything from Nintendo, it is just not my cup of coffee.

Hey Sony! Listen here, heres is free good marketing advise for the PSvita:

1. Pay some factory in Taiwan and start mass producing cheap memcards.

2. Re-release psp/PS2 games. Like, a LOT of them.

3. Watch people buy Vitas left and right and cry for even more.

4. ???

5. Dance around a campfire and sing the Leprechaun song.

 
Pravado said:
@raiborg (and p much everyone else should read this wall of text as well)


He's merely saying that offering locked slots promotes practices that should not be allowed because it's a situation where a cheapskate preys on the poor to get a game for a significant discount. Naturally that's going to tick people off that play by the rules.

All parties in the group benefit at the time (one far more than the other two), but any future resell owner isn't seeing any benefit for the past/current risk on that account due to a locked spot. A future purchaser of that resell slot doesn't fully own the account they paid for. And if the new owner changes the pass (as all ps4 resell owners should when they buy a resell due to one active slot) then the locked spot bitches they lost access to something they paid for and demand payment. And when you refuse payment, nobody knows how to handle the situation. Do we screw over the guy who properly paid for the locked slot, or do we screw over the guy who just paid for a slot that he didn’t know had a locked slot attached and expected full control of the acct? If we demand the buyer of the resell be refunded for misinformation and the seller truly didn’t know, how do we punish them if they refuse to refund? Simple answer is that we can’t, so why bother allowing something we can’t enforce once problems arise?

You're forced to accept the risk without getting any discount bc of said risk, potentially on any ps4 resell you attempt to purchase, so long as we allow locked spots. The inital group is getting a game cheaper at the expense of future buyers of that resell. Total bs considering we continue to exist based on the ability to resell past games. It's incredibly hard to sell accts with locked slots on them, so I assume most ppl would just lie about it and feign ignorance since they can’t be punished after the fact and they already have the buyers money. If you do this, you’re a cheap shithead and you should feel bad.

Here's another great example of why we shouldn't allow them. Raiborg, you always seem to have new releases to timeshare (how? we never see you join groups? but i digress..) You could easily just be using locked spots yourself and then renting out the resell slot. You would still get to play the game using the locked spot while other people play on the resell slot and pay off your expenses. That's gaming the system in a really shitty way. If you're doing $2.50/wk rentals, within a month you would have paid what a phantom did for that share, still played the game during that month, and can further timeshare it/sell it outright on top of continuing to play it on either the resell or locked slots. There's no incentive to buy a phantom in this regard if we allow locked slots. Just shell out $10 more and you’ll benefit far more. If you take away the incentive for phantoms, less and less groups get filled and people stop coming here as a result. You have more people repeatedly asking for resells outside of groups and the topic becomes unbrowsable.

Also, why else would you buy a game on day one and not play it and then rent it out on day one for so cheap that it would take months to make your money back? If you truly were doing it to benefit the community those games would be in the library rented out for free. You refuse to give a solid answer to this anytime it's brought up. QD is exempt from this bc I can see that he's not playing the games he's renting out since he's on my FL. His rates are also more than double. I don’t exactly know his motivations either, but I can say for sure they’re not sketchy. Now while you could be telling the truth, there's no proof in front of us since nobody knows your PSN because you operate from the shadows. My point is If it's hard for me to trust a thread vet with stuff like this, imagine how hard it is to trust semi-regulars or newbs


Took me an hour to type out and edit. Hopefully someone agrees with it. There's plenty of reasons why locked spots should be forbidden.
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Can someone please explain the difference between a phantom and a locked slot? I thought they were the same? And why is a locked slot looked down upon but phantoms are not? I'm really liking this sharing thing as it seems to benefit all parties. I just want to be totally informed as toy risks etc in case I want to buy and share as well buying shares. Thanks!
 
Pravado said:
@raiborg (and p much everyone else should read this wall of text as well)


He's merely saying that offering locked slots promotes practices that should not be allowed because it's a situation where a cheapskate preys on the poor to get a game for a significant discount. Naturally that's going to tick people off that play by the rules.

All parties in the group benefit at the time (one far more than the other two), but any future resell owner isn't seeing any benefit for the past/current risk on that account due to a locked spot. A future purchaser of that resell slot doesn't fully own the account they paid for. And if the new owner changes the pass (as all ps4 resell owners should when they buy a resell due to one active slot) then the locked spot bitches they lost access to something they paid for and demand payment. And when you refuse payment, nobody knows how to handle the situation. Do we screw over the guy who properly paid for the locked slot, or do we screw over the guy who just paid for a slot that he didn’t know had a locked slot attached and expected full control of the acct? If we demand the buyer of the resell be refunded for misinformation and the seller truly didn’t know, how do we punish them if they refuse to refund? Simple answer is that we can’t, so why bother allowing something we can’t enforce once problems arise?

You're forced to accept the risk without getting any discount bc of said risk, potentially on any ps4 resell you attempt to purchase, so long as we allow locked spots. The inital group is getting a game cheaper at the expense of future buyers of that resell. Total bs considering we continue to exist based on the ability to resell past games. It's incredibly hard to sell accts with locked slots on them, so I assume most ppl would just lie about it and feign ignorance since they can’t be punished after the fact and they already have the buyers money. If you do this, you’re a cheap shithead and you should feel bad.

Here's another great example of why we shouldn't allow them. Raiborg, you always seem to have new releases to timeshare (how? we never see you join groups? but i digress..) You could easily just be using locked spots yourself and then renting out the resell slot. You would still get to play the game using the locked spot while other people play on the resell slot and pay off your expenses. That's gaming the system in a really shitty way. If you're doing $2.50/wk rentals, within a month you would have paid what a phantom did for that share, still played the game during that month, and can further timeshare it/sell it outright on top of continuing to play it on either the resell or locked slots. There's no incentive to buy a phantom in this regard if we allow locked slots. Just shell out $10 more and you’ll benefit far more. If you take away the incentive for phantoms, less and less groups get filled and people stop coming here as a result. You have more people repeatedly asking for resells outside of groups and the topic becomes unbrowsable.

Also, why else would you buy a game on day one and not play it and then rent it out on day one for so cheap that it would take months to make your money back? If you truly were doing it to benefit the community those games would be in the library rented out for free. You refuse to give a solid answer to this anytime it's brought up. QD is exempt from this bc I can see that he's not playing the games he's renting out since he's on my FL. His rates are also more than double. I don’t exactly know his motivations either, but I can say for sure they’re not sketchy. Now while you could be telling the truth, there's no proof in front of us since nobody knows your PSN because you operate from the shadows. My point is If it's hard for me to trust a thread vet with stuff like this, imagine how hard it is to trust semi-regulars or newbs


Took me an hour to type out and edit. Hopefully someone agrees with it. There's plenty of reasons why locked spots should be forbidden.
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Can someone please explain the difference between a phantom and a locked slot? I thought they were the same? And why is a locked slot looked down upon but phantoms are not? I'm really liking this sharing thing as it seems to benefit all parties. I just want to be totally informed as toy risks etc in case I want to buy and share as well buying shares. Thanks!
 
Broke. Need $$$. $20 per phantom. :cry:

Turk February said:
Not expecting any interest in this anymore but what the hell, I gotta try. Will keep my posting to a minimum...



Selling phantoms of my main *which includes RE hd and Advanced Warfare*. Have a LARGE selection of games *both purchased and freebies from ps+*. Looking for $30 (but willing to consider reasonable offers) in either paypal or psn cards. Here is what I have:




PS1 Games
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
Medal Of Honor
Tomb Raider
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Final Fantasy VII
Castlevania Chronicles
Resident Evil: The Director's Cut
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
Syphon Filter
Silent Hill
Castlevania: Symphony Of The Night
PS2 Games
Max Payne
Primal
Odin Sphere
GrimGrimoire
Maximo: Ghosts to Glory
Twisted Metal Black
GTA Vice City Stories
GTA Vice City
GTA San Andreas
GTA 3
Persona 3 FES
Fatal Frame
Castlevania: Lament Of Innocence
PS3 Games
Resident Evil HD
Fez
Rogue Legacy
Call Of Duty Advanced Warfare
Doki Doki Universe
Flow
The Walking Dead Season 2
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag Gold Edition
Tetris
Alice: Madness Returns
Puppeteer
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow- Mirror of Fate HD
Dead Island Riptide
Dead Island
Call Of Duty: Ghosts
Battlefield 4
Castle Of Illusion
rain
Spelunky
Lone Survivor: Director's Cut
Bioshock Infinite Season Pass
Superfrog HD
Portal 2
Max Payne 3
Dishonored
Cloudberry Kingdom
Stealth Inc: Clone In The Dark
DuckTales Remastered
Prince Of Persia Classic Trilogy HD
Prince Of Persia: Sands Of Time
Hotline Miami
Mortal Kombat
Sly Cooper: Thieves In Time
Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon
Thomas Was Alone
Dragon Fantasy Book 1
Skyrim dlc (all)
Knytt Underground
Hitman HD Collection
The Cave
LBP Karting
Devil May Cry HD Collection
Labyrinth Legends
Mass Effect
Hasbro Family Game Night
Spec Ops: The Line
Puddle
Borderlands 2 Season Pass (dlc)
Battlefield 3 Premium (dlc)
Dyad
Killzone HD
Dead Space 2
Crysis
Unfinished Swan
Doom 3 BFG Edition
Borderlands 2
Retro City Rampage
Revenge of Shinobi
Resident Evil 5 Gold Edition
Hell Yeah! Wrath of the Dead Rabbit
Max Payne 3 Season Pass (dlc)
Zen Pinball 2 (plus dlc)
Saints Row The Third
Rainbow Moon
Resident Evil Chronicles HD Collection
Amy
Dragon's Dogma (dlc)
Batman: Arkham City
Call of Duty: Black Ops dlc (Map packs 1-3)
Bejeweled 3
Sonic CD
I Am Alive
Rayman 3 HD
Just Cause 2 Ultimate Edition
Journey
Phineas and Ferb: Across The Second Dimension
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 plus dlc
inFamous: Festival of Blood
Resident Evil: Code Veronica X
Resident Evil 4
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Penny Arcade Adventures Episodes 1&2
Flower
Darksiders
GTA 4 Complete Edition
Saints Row 2
L.A. Noire Season Pass
Sideway New York
Costume Quest & dlc
Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection
Medal of Honor Frontline
Far Cry 2
Call of Duty Classic
all Bioshock 2 dlc
Assassin's Creed 2
Outland
Limbo
Press Your Luck
Borderlands & all dlc
Lumines Supernova & dlc
Burnout Paradise
LittleBigPlanet
inFamous

PS+ freebies (valid thru 6/2016):

Deadly Premonition
the Binding Of Isaac: Rebirth
SteamWorld Dig
Kingdoms Of Amalur
DmC: Devil May Cry
LittleBigPlanet 2
NBA 2K14
Dead Space 3
Dragon's Crown
Terraria
Tomb Raider (2013)
Modnation Racers: Road trip
Metro: Last Light
Bioshock: Infinite
Grid 2
Scott Pilgrim
Trine 2
Demon's Souls
Shift 2 Unleashed
NBA Jam: On Fire Edition
Shank 2
NFL Blitz
Battlefield 3
Payday: The Heist
Lara Croft and The Guardian Of Light
Tomb Raider Underworld
Hitman Absolution
Sleeping Dogs
Quantum Conundrum
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
Mega Man 9&10
Bioshock 2
XCOM: Enemy Unknown
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine
Bloodrayne Betrayal
Back To The Future
Closure
inFamous 2
Ico & Shadow Of The Colossus
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One

This account will not be reset again for 6 months, so you don't have to download everything at the same time. Oh and same rules apply: No noobs, please have 10 positive feedback, nobody suspected of being shady, blahblahblah...
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Pravado said:
That's very much false there are new releases on the eshop every week. Plus quality over quantity. Who wants to play games like titan attacks or pix the cat over majoras mask and monster hunter 4 lol
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Subjective tastes are subjective tastes. And throwing out two tiny titles against two big hitters is a tad unfair.

PS - Persona 4: Golden alone is better than anything on 3ds combined :p
 
I know, hurts me, too. I was really in on Turk's PS4 phantom but CAG didn't notify me of the PM and someone else snagged it.

I just don't bother much with PS3 anymore but what the heck, sign me up. Drop me your PayPal, Turk. It might take me some time to download and go through the list but, like you said, I appreciate that you don't mind.
 
Turk February said:
Broke. Need $$$. $20 per phantom. :cry:
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Dammit Turk!

At least organize this shit.

Very enticing list but I'm in the same boat; broke.

Organized:
PS1 Games:
Castlevania Chronicles
Castlevania Symphony Of The Night
Final Fantasy VII
Medal Of Honor
Oddworld Abe's Oddysee
Persona 2 Eternal Punishment
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3 Nemesis
Resident Evil The Director's Cut
Silent Hill
Syphon Filter
Tomb Raider

PS2 Games:
Castlevania Lament Of Innocence
Fatal Frame
GrimGrimoire
GTA 3
GTA San Andreas
GTA Vice City
GTA Vice City Stories
Max Payne
Maximo Ghosts to Glory
Odin Sphere
Persona 3 FES
Primal
Twisted Metal Black

PS3 Games:
Alice Madness Returns
all Bioshock 2 dlc
Amy
Assassin's Creed 2
Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag Gold Edition
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
Batman Arkham City
Battlefield 3 Premium dlc
Battlefield 4
Bejeweled 3
Bioshock Infinite Season Pass
Borderlands & all dlc
Borderlands 2
Borderlands 2 Season Pass dlc
Burnout Paradise
Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare
Call Of Duty Advanced Warfare
Call of Duty Black Ops dlc Map packs 1-3
Call of Duty Classic
Call Of Duty Ghosts
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 plus dlc
Castle Of Illusion
Castlevania Lords of Shadow- Mirror of Fate HD
Cloudberry Kingdom
Costume Quest & dlc
Crysis
Darksiders
Dead Island
Dead Island Riptide
Dead Space 2
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Devil May Cry HD Collection
Dishonored
Doki Doki Universe
Doom 3 BFG Edition
Dragon Fantasy Book 1
Dragon's Dogma dlc
DuckTales Remastered
Dyad
Far Cry 2
Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon
Fez
Flow
Flower
GTA 4 Complete Edition
Hasbro Family Game Night
Hell Yeah Wrath of the Dead Rabbit
Hitman HD Collection
Hotline Miami
I Am Alive
inFamous
inFamous Festival of Blood
Journey
Just Cause 2 Ultimate Edition
Killzone HD
Knytt Underground
L A Noire Season Pass
Labyrinth Legends
LBP Karting
Limbo
LittleBigPlanet
Lone Survivor Director's Cut
Lumines Supernova & dlc
Mass Effect
Max Payne 3
Max Payne 3 Season Pass dlc
Medal of Honor Frontline
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection
Outland
Penny Arcade Adventures Episodes 1&2
Phineas and Ferb Across The Second Dimension
Portal 2
Press Your Luck
Prince Of Persia Classic Trilogy HD
Prince Of Persia Sands Of Time
Puddle
Puppeteer
rain
Rainbow Moon
Rayman 3 HD
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 5 Gold Edition
Resident Evil Chronicles HD Collection
Resident Evil Code Veronica X
Resident Evil HD
Retro City Rampage
Revenge of Shinobi
Rogue Legacy
Saints Row 2
Saints Row The Third
Sideway New York
Skyrim dlc all
Sly Cooper Thieves In Time
Sonic CD
Spec Ops The Line
Spelunky
Stealth Inc Clone In The Dark
Superfrog HD
Tetris
The Cave
The Walking Dead Season 2
Thomas Was Alone
Unfinished Swan
Zen Pinball 2 plus dlc

PS+ freebies (valid thru 6/2016):
Back To The Future
Battlefield 3
Bioshock 2
Bioshock Infinite
Bloodrayne Betrayal
Closure
Dead Space 3
Deadly Premonition
Demon's Souls
DmC Devil May Cry
Dragon's Crown
Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen
Grid 2
Hitman Absolution
Ico & Shadow Of The Colossus
inFamous 2
Kingdoms Of Amalur
Lara Croft and The Guardian Of Light
LittleBigPlanet 2
Mega Man 9&10
Metro Last Light
Modnation Racers Road trip
NBA 2K14
NBA Jam On Fire Edition
NFL Blitz
Payday The Heist
Quantum Conundrum
Ratchet & Clank All 4 One
Scott Pilgrim
Shank 2
Shift 2 Unleashed
Sleeping Dogs
SteamWorld Dig
Terraria
the Binding Of Isaac Rebirth
Tomb Raider 2013
Tomb Raider Underworld
Trine 2
Warhammer 40 000 Space Marine
XCOM Enemy Unknown
 
Pravado said:
That's very much false there are new releases on the eshop every week. Plus quality over quantity. Who wants to play games like titan attacks or pix the cat over majoras mask and monster hunter 4 lol
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Let me take two games that didn't even come out this year on Vita and compare them to the two biggest games in 3DS.

And Pix the Cat is an awesome game, you really should play things before passing judgement and just assuming something is crap because it's an indie game.

Oh and I played Majoras Mask when it was on N64.

Raiborg said:
I'll respond to the rest of your post later, but for now:

Ohhhhhhh shit, we have a winner :whee:

I've been holding the contest for a few months now. I was beginning to think no one would ever win it.

I am about to send you your prize, but one thing:

I don't recall it ever being brought up. If someone other than you did it bring it up, let me know so I can send them the credit instead.
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How come when you call someone out on something, you demand a public response for everyone to see, but when your methods are questioned, you dance around the issue and don't have to practice what you preach?

Oh and last thing before I go to bed (triple post!!!):

How come we tell people it's not cool to make a profit on shares, and that we're not gamesharing as a business and to make money, but then we have people renting out the same games for years, well after they've paid for the cost of the game, and are clearly turning a profit on them at this point?
 
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Raiborg said:
I'll respond to the rest of your post later, but for now:

Ohhhhhhh shit, we have a winner :whee:

I've been holding the contest for a few months now. I was beginning to think no one would ever win it.

I am about to send you your prize, but one thing:

I don't recall it ever being brought up. If someone other than you did it bring it up, let me know so I can send them the credit instead.
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How come when you call someone out on something, you demand a public response for everyone to see, but when your methods are questioned, you dance around the issue and don't have to practice what you preach?
 
Oh and last thing before I go to bed (triple post!!!):

How come we tell people it's not cool to make a profit on shares, and that we're not gamesharing as a business and to make money, but then we have people renting out the same games for years, well after they've paid for the cost of the game, and are clearly turning a profit on them at this point?
 
HyeVltg3 said:
Dammit Turk!

At least organize this shit.

Very enticing list but I'm in the same boat; broke.

Organized:
PS1 Games:
Castlevania Chronicles
Castlevania Symphony Of The Night
Final Fantasy VII
Medal Of Honor
Oddworld Abe's Oddysee
Persona 2 Eternal Punishment
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3 Nemesis
Resident Evil The Director's Cut
Silent Hill
Syphon Filter
Tomb Raider

PS2 Games:
Castlevania Lament Of Innocence
Fatal Frame
GrimGrimoire
GTA 3
GTA San Andreas
GTA Vice City
GTA Vice City Stories
Max Payne
Maximo Ghosts to Glory
Odin Sphere
Persona 3 FES
Primal
Twisted Metal Black

PS3 Games:
Alice Madness Returns
all Bioshock 2 dlc
Amy
Assassin's Creed 2
Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag Gold Edition
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
Batman Arkham City
Battlefield 3 Premium dlc
Battlefield 4
Bejeweled 3
Bioshock Infinite Season Pass
Borderlands & all dlc
Borderlands 2
Borderlands 2 Season Pass dlc
Burnout Paradise
Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare
Call Of Duty Advanced Warfare
Call of Duty Black Ops dlc Map packs 1-3
Call of Duty Classic
Call Of Duty Ghosts
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 plus dlc
Castle Of Illusion
Castlevania Lords of Shadow- Mirror of Fate HD
Cloudberry Kingdom
Costume Quest & dlc
Crysis
Darksiders
Dead Island
Dead Island Riptide
Dead Space 2
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Devil May Cry HD Collection
Dishonored
Doki Doki Universe
Doom 3 BFG Edition
Dragon Fantasy Book 1
Dragon's Dogma dlc
DuckTales Remastered
Dyad
Far Cry 2
Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon
Fez
Flow
Flower
GTA 4 Complete Edition
Hasbro Family Game Night
Hell Yeah Wrath of the Dead Rabbit
Hitman HD Collection
Hotline Miami
I Am Alive
inFamous
inFamous Festival of Blood
Journey
Just Cause 2 Ultimate Edition
Killzone HD
Knytt Underground
L A Noire Season Pass
Labyrinth Legends
LBP Karting
Limbo
LittleBigPlanet
Lone Survivor Director's Cut
Lumines Supernova & dlc
Mass Effect
Max Payne 3
Max Payne 3 Season Pass dlc
Medal of Honor Frontline
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection
Outland
Penny Arcade Adventures Episodes 1&2
Phineas and Ferb Across The Second Dimension
Portal 2
Press Your Luck
Prince Of Persia Classic Trilogy HD
Prince Of Persia Sands Of Time
Puddle
Puppeteer
rain
Rainbow Moon
Rayman 3 HD
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 5 Gold Edition
Resident Evil Chronicles HD Collection
Resident Evil Code Veronica X
Resident Evil HD
Retro City Rampage
Revenge of Shinobi
Rogue Legacy
Saints Row 2
Saints Row The Third
Sideway New York
Skyrim dlc all
Sly Cooper Thieves In Time
Sonic CD
Spec Ops The Line
Spelunky
Stealth Inc Clone In The Dark
Superfrog HD
Tetris
The Cave
The Walking Dead Season 2
Thomas Was Alone
Unfinished Swan
Zen Pinball 2 plus dlc

PS+ freebies (valid thru 6/2016):
Back To The Future
Battlefield 3
Bioshock 2
Bioshock Infinite
Bloodrayne Betrayal
Closure
Dead Space 3
Deadly Premonition
Demon's Souls
DmC Devil May Cry
Dragon's Crown
Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen
Grid 2
Hitman Absolution
Ico & Shadow Of The Colossus
inFamous 2
Kingdoms Of Amalur
Lara Croft and The Guardian Of Light
LittleBigPlanet 2
Mega Man 9&10
Metro Last Light
Modnation Racers Road trip
NBA 2K14
NBA Jam On Fire Edition
NFL Blitz
Payday The Heist
Quantum Conundrum
Ratchet & Clank All 4 One
Scott Pilgrim
Shank 2
Shift 2 Unleashed
Sleeping Dogs
SteamWorld Dig
Terraria
the Binding Of Isaac Rebirth
Tomb Raider 2013
Tomb Raider Underworld
Trine 2
Warhammer 40 000 Space Marine
XCOM Enemy Unknown
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How was it not organized? I did it the way I did so that anyone interested could see each game according to platform. Someone who doesn't care about PS1 games? Why should they have to scroll thru them to find what they care about?

 
ProfessorStotch said:
Oh and last thing before I go to bed (triple post!!!):

How come we tell people it's not cool to make a profit on shares, and that we're not gamesharing as a business and to make money, but then we have people renting out the same games for years, well after they've paid for the cost of the game, and are clearly turning a profit on them at this point?
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Not the same. Thats risk and reward as opposed to a quick guaranteed profit turn.

The buy the game and expect to timeshare it out. They very well may not ever pay the game off by sharing it over the course of the next while. They may end up not even timesharing it at all and losing money. Thats risk vs reward. Good on them if they make a few bucks for their efforts.

Whereas, the guys buying shares and instantly flipping them for a profit have very little or no risk, and its pretty much just a douche thing to do.

 
ProfessorStotch said:
Oh and last thing before I go to bed (triple post!!!):

How come we tell people it's not cool to make a profit on shares, and that we're not gamesharing as a business and to make money, but then we have people renting out the same games for years, well after they've paid for the cost of the game, and are clearly turning a profit on them at this point?
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Not the same. Thats risk and reward as opposed to a quick guaranteed profit turn.

The buy the game and expect to timeshare it out. They very well may not ever pay the game off by sharing it over the course of the next while. They may end up not even timesharing it at all and losing money. Thats risk vs reward. Good on them if they make a few bucks for their efforts.

Whereas, the guys buying shares and instantly flipping them for a profit have very little or no risk, and its pretty much just a douche thing to do.

 
Responses in the wall of text.

Pravado said:
He's merely saying that offering locked slots promotes practices that should not be allowed because it's a situation where a cheapskate preys on the poor to get a game for a significant discount. Naturally that's going to tick people off that play by the rules.

All parties in the group benefit at the time (one far more than the other two), but any future resell owner isn't seeing any benefit for the past/current risk on that account due to a locked spot.

The future resell owner would be getting the slot at a reduced rate. If the initial resell ends up paying $25 for their slot, the next resell would be paying that much or less.

A future purchaser of that resell slot doesn't fully own the account they paid for.

Same goes for cross-buy groups. Potential buyers should be made aware of other owners before they buy.

And if the new owner changes the pass (as all ps4 resell owners should when they buy a resell due to one active slot) then the locked spot bitches they lost access to something they paid for and demand payment.

They would know there was another owner before buying. Changing info after having that knowledge would be theft.

And when you refuse payment, nobody knows how to handle the situation. Do we screw over the guy who properly paid for the locked slot, or do we screw over the guy who just paid for a slot that he didn’t know had a locked slot attached and expected full control of the acct? If we demand the buyer of the resell be refunded for misinformation and the seller truly didn’t know, how do we punish them if they refuse to refund?

If a member were to sell a resell and not mention a locked slot owner was attached, they would have to repay the locked owner.

Simple answer is that we can’t, so why bother allowing something we can’t enforce once problems arise?

You're forced to accept the risk without getting any discount bc of said risk, potentially on any ps4 resell you attempt to purchase, so long as we allow locked spots. The inital group is getting a game cheaper at the expense of future buyers of that resell.

Already answered. You make it sound like locked slots would be on every group. They would only be on groups that chose to use them.

Total bs considering we continue to exist based on the ability to resell past games. It's incredibly hard to sell accts with locked slots on them, so I assume most ppl would just lie about it and feign ignorance since they can’t be punished after the fact and they already have the buyers money. If you do this, you’re a cheap shithead and you should feel bad.

Here's another great example of why we shouldn't allow them. Raiborg, you always seem to have new releases to timeshare (how? we never see you join groups? but i digress..) You could easily just be using locked spots yourself and then renting out the resell slot.

What if I am?

You would still get to play the game using the locked spot while other people play on the resell slot and pay off your expenses. That's gaming the system in a really shitty way.

No trophies, no save data, required to be online and unavailable when PSN gets unstable. It's more that renters are paying for the advantages of a primary slot rather than paying to play the game.

If you're doing $2.50/wk rentals, within a month you would have paid what a phantom did for that share, still played the game during that month, and can further timeshare it/sell it outright on top of continuing to play it on either the resell or locked slots.

I haven't charged more than $1.50/week and I sell phantoms for $20. Again, you're looking at it as paying to play instead of paying for a primary slot.

There's no incentive to buy a phantom in this regard if we allow locked slots. Just shell out $10 more and you’ll benefit far more.

That's the setup now without locked slots.

If you take away the incentive for phantoms, less and less groups get filled and people stop coming here as a result. You have more people repeatedly asking for resells outside of groups and the topic becomes unbrowsable.

Also, why else would you buy a game on day one and not play it and then rent it out on day one for so cheap that it would take months to make your money back?

Because I'm a boss?

If you truly were doing it to benefit the community those games would be in the library rented out for free.

I'm not running a charity and renting them out myself allows me to decide who has access to it, but also makes it so if something goes wrong, it'll be my fault.

You refuse to give a solid answer to this anytime it's brought up.

It's never been brought up. I recall you hinting at it, but you didn't name names, so...

QD is exempt from this bc I can see that he's not playing the games he's renting out since he's on my FL.

Why can't he be using the locked slot? But as before, so what if he is?

His rates are also more than double. I don’t exactly know his motivations either,

The same as any other renter? Recoup some of the initial cost why also providing members with an alternative?

but I can say for sure they’re not sketchy. Now while you could be telling the truth, there's no proof in front of us since nobody knows your PSN because you operate from the shadows.

My point is If it's hard for me to trust a thread vet with stuff like this, imagine how hard it is to trust semi-regulars or newbs
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Pravado said:
Again, if you *really* need that extra $5 you’d get from a locked spot, just friggin timeshare the game
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You're using the $10 pricing, but there is no rule saying it has to be that much. With the $10 locked slot, it's not just $5 for the resell, but $5 for the phantom - you know, the ones getting the short end.

RoyTheAlmighty said:
Don't get me wrong, I don't think we should just take whatever someone has to offer and ignore where does it come from, however I believe that vets like QDizzle and Raiborg have earned themselves enough trust around here
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No such thing as enough trust. If someone does something shady, they did something shady. It would be surprising if the member in question was a long time/highly trusted member, but to say 'X couldn't have done this' because of perceived trust is wrong.

ProfessorStotch said:
How come when you call someone out on something, you demand a public response for everyone to see, but when your methods are questioned, you dance around the issue and don't have to practice what you preach?
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Care to specify where I have demanded a public response for something without giving some amount of proof? In this case, the only 'proof' stated is 'Something doesn't feel right. Explain yourself.'

ProfessorStotch said:
Oh and last thing before I go to bed (triple post!!!):

How come we tell people it's not cool to make a profit on shares, and that we're not gamesharing as a business and to make money, but then we have people renting out the same games for years, well after they've paid for the cost of the game, and are clearly turning a profit on them at this point?
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Hisashiburi dana, Jabroni-san.

Nothing wrong with profit. The problem comes when other members are affected by the pursuit of it. Bought a share from a user for $10 only to sell it to someone for $15? You prevented someone from saving $5 for no reason other than personal gain. On the other hand, let's say someone bought a game on an account during a flash sale, but no other members were in the group and the buyer decides to sell later down the line: Does the buyer have to sell at the sale rate? No. It would be great if they did, but there is nothing wrong if they don't, since their original purchase didn't negatively affect anyone.

Gamesharing as a business is when the owner has no intention of playing the game themselves. As long as other members aren't negatively affected, I don't see the issue here. There is one member here who has admitted to selling for money. While it would be in poor taste if that member prevented regulars from filling groups, what if someone is looking for a slot and no one has it but that particular seller?

Turk February said:
How was it not organized? I did it the way I did so that anyone interested could see each game according to platform. Someone who doesn't care about PS1 games? Why should they have to scroll thru them to find what they care about?
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Wasn't alphabetized.

SmoothJazz said:
[PS4] NBA2K15 - $29.49

Resell $19

SmoothJazz

Phantom $11

?

Looking for host too.
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Didn't Rolandino1 join your group already?

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Raiborg said:
Didn't Rolandino1 join your group already?
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He can't host just like me that's why he quit.

Anyone interested in making a group of Dragon age and Shadow of mordor? both are in sale and I will take the resell spot. If host has plus then it will be I think $5 more cheaper.

 
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