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[quote name='n8rockerasu']Once it was learned that I have to actually approve all trades in the game anyway, we figured there was no harm in at least seeing if the game would allow it before needing to discuss it. People should still post the trade in here after they propose it though. It may seem redundant, but as cumbersome as the menu system is in GM Connected, I'd much rather be able to think about a trade on CAG than have to go look everything up in the game.[/QUOTE]

So I played tonights game game and lost one of my top forwards in LW Thomas Vanek for 39 games with a concussion. I needed to replace him so I went on the trade market. I proposed a trade with Columbus for LW Nick Foligno. I offered a C prospect and a 1st and a 3rd I believe (I know it sounds like a lot but they wouldn't accept anything lower, plus my farm system is stacked from recent drafts). But anyways, I just wanted to let everyone know on here, I think Nate still has to approve it. I wasn't trying to be sneaky or anything I just read the above post and I proposed the trade. If anyone has a problem with it then Nate can always Veto the trade. Again, to summarize:

Buffalo receives: LW Nick Foligno (82 overall, 24 years old, $3.085 mil cap hit for 3 years, 3.5 star potential)

Columbus receives: C Kevin Sundher (60 overall, 20 years old, $0.63 mil cap hit for 3 years, 3 star potential)
2013 1st round pick
2014 3rd round pick

(I'm 99% sure those were the picks but I could be wrong as the trade screen reset as soon as they accepted it)

Hope nobody has a problem with the trade, I know I'm overpaying here but I'm in desperate need for a good LW and I have the assets that Columbus wanted. :)
 
[quote name='DarkTower80']Yeah, that seems too lopsided for the panthers.[/QUOTE]


I tried about nine different combos and this is the only one saying league approved. For some reason if I added anyone eles or even another draft pic it said not approved.
 
[quote name='Vulcan2422']Wild

Suter/88 OVR/Age 27/ 7.540 mil/13 YL/ 4 and a half stars. Reached Potential

Harding/80 OVR/ Age 28/ 1.900 Mil/ 2 YL/ 4 Stars. Reached Potential

Panthers

Clemmensen/ 76 Ovr/ Age 35/ 1.200 Mil/ 2 YL/ 3 stars. Reached Potential
Ellerby/ 77 Ovr/ Age 23/ 0.700 Mil/ 1 YL/ 4 Star potential 50/50 Chance of reaching it.

Alan and I learned the star rating last night and I was bored. So there ya go.[/QUOTE]

I'm with everyone else on this one... It seems like Florida is getting a much better deal. Despite getting a massive contract on their plate, there is really no risk in this trade. They are getting two players that are higher rated for essentially one player that MIGHT achieve an 85 in the next two to three years before he is maxed out.

[quote name='Twick87']So I played tonights game game and lost one of my top forwards in LW Thomas Vanek for 39 games with a concussion. I needed to replace him so I went on the trade market. I proposed a trade with Columbus for LW Nick Foligno. I offered a C prospect and a 1st and a 3rd I believe (I know it sounds like a lot but they wouldn't accept anything lower, plus my farm system is stacked from recent drafts). But anyways, I just wanted to let everyone know on here, I think Nate still has to approve it. I wasn't trying to be sneaky or anything I just read the above post and I proposed the trade. If anyone has a problem with it then Nate can always Veto the trade. Again, to summarize:

Buffalo receives: LW Nick Foligno (82 overall, 24 years old, $3.085 mil cap hit for 3 years, 3.5 star potential)

Columbus receives: C Kevin Sundher (60 overall, 20 years old, $0.63 mil cap hit for 3 years, 3 star potential)
2013 1st round pick
2014 3rd round pick

(I'm 99% sure those were the picks but I could be wrong as the trade screen reset as soon as they accepted it)

Hope nobody has a problem with the trade, I know I'm overpaying here but I'm in desperate need for a good LW and I have the assets that Columbus wanted. :)[/QUOTE]

As with the FLA-MIN trade, I feel like this is kind of lopsided in favor of Buffalo. For one, I find it very unlikely that a 60 rated player is going to even break 75, let alone the 82 that Columbus would be giving up. As for draft picks, I personally am not a really big fan of trades that involve them myself seeing as 1) There is no guarantee that a comparable player would be drafted with those picks and 2) If we only get two seasons done (which hopefully isn't the case) than you pretty much just got an 82+ Player for one rated 60, and one other players that might never even play a single game once drafted.

AI GM can be smart, but more times than not it isn't. I witnessed this in my offline GM mode where I traded Jakub Kindl and two 1st Rounders to the Predators for Shea Weber (I really wish this would have happened in real life). I then traded Danny Cleary and a 2nd to Phoenix for Shane Doan and a 3rd.

I can see draft picks being included when a trade is a little bit more even, such as the TB-COL one, but once it becomes more about the picks than the actual players involved I think it is unrealistic.
 
[quote name='Mr_hockey66']Wild
Suter
And j Harding

For

Panthers

S.clemmensen g
K ellerby d (which is killing me!)
And 2nd round pick

League approved.

I get a high priced d and a better goalie

You get cap room
And a potential great d man low paid
And a draft pick.[/QUOTE]

Just want to throw it out there that I haven't agreed to this proposal and am still working out deals with several GM's. I think Mr_hockey66 may have jumped the gun slightly on our talks or may have just been looking for input at this point.
 
Winnipeg Jets here.

Anyone from florida, nahsville, or detroit want to get our games done let's setup a schedule for this weekend. Tomorrow I work from 3pm to 3am PST. Saturday I am free after 1pm and Sunday I'm free all day.
 
Maybe the addition of the goalie is causing this deal to not be league approved.

I'll try working it for sutter only. Then I'll see if I can do something for the goalie. Maybe I can get them to go thru like that.
 
Yeah, I think the logic gets wonky with goalies. Ran into the same issue with my trade with Tampa.

For the Buf-Cbj trade, kinda echo MVP's thoughts on that. I honestly am not too familiar with the Jackets roster, but I don't really think they are in any position to give up a quality player for prospects at this point in time. I could be wrong on that though. Overall, I don't think it's an overly "bad" trade...chalk it up to weird AI logic like the Calgary one.
 
I think in real life a 1st, a 3rd, and a prospect would be a lot for Nick Foligno so that's where I figured I was overpaying. Especially considering that this is early in the season and not at the trade deadline where player values tend to skyrocket. I'd like everyone's input on this trade as I don't want people to think that I'm trying to rip off the CPU, just keep in mind that he was traded to Columbus this past offseason for Marc Methot. Methot is more or less a journeyman defenseman with a 78 rating in this game.
 
[quote name='Twick87']So I played tonights game game and lost one of my top forwards in LW Thomas Vanek for 39 games with a concussion. I needed to replace him so I went on the trade market. I proposed a trade with Columbus for LW Nick Foligno. I offered a C prospect and a 1st and a 3rd I believe (I know it sounds like a lot but they wouldn't accept anything lower, plus my farm system is stacked from recent drafts). But anyways, I just wanted to let everyone know on here, I think Nate still has to approve it. I wasn't trying to be sneaky or anything I just read the above post and I proposed the trade. If anyone has a problem with it then Nate can always Veto the trade. Again, to summarize:

Buffalo receives: LW Nick Foligno (82 overall, 24 years old, $3.085 mil cap hit for 3 years, 3.5 star potential)

Columbus receives: C Kevin Sundher (60 overall, 20 years old, $0.63 mil cap hit for 3 years, 3 star potential)
2013 1st round pick
2014 3rd round pick

(I'm 99% sure those were the picks but I could be wrong as the trade screen reset as soon as they accepted it)

Hope nobody has a problem with the trade, I know I'm overpaying here but I'm in desperate need for a good LW and I have the assets that Columbus wanted. :)[/QUOTE]

I wanted to say good game and a good job to the sabres last night as they brought their awesomeness to the table. My hurricanes brought maybe their B- to the ice at best. Buffaloes defense made me look awful at points of the game.I hung in there a much as I could until 3rd period where your offense sealed in the deal with that one timer goal. I don't know what my defenders were doing at that point because they never came back to stop the passing lane of the one timer pass (I guess they wondered off into space, who knows). I was able to get one good chance of a one timer leaving an open net left side but Jordan Staal goes for the shot, he breaks his stick. Sigh... Sorry about Vanek, we mailed him some flowers and a get well soon card. Again, good game man.
 
[quote name='Flyersfan']Reading through the thread, Toronto user Homelessgamer never joined so I'm assuming it's fine to play the CPU at this point?[/QUOTE]

Anyone have a problem with this? I am working from home today and would rather be in control of my game vs simming it and probably having bryzgalov out 20 games.
 
[quote name='Flyersfan']Anyone have a problem with this? I am working from home today and would rather be in control of my game vs simming it and probably having bryzgalov out 20 games.[/QUOTE]

would probably be doing you a favor lol
 
[quote name='Ninjas in a Box']I wanted to say good game and a good job to the sabres last night as they brought their awesomeness to the table. My hurricanes brought maybe their B- to the ice at best. Buffaloes defense made me look awful at points of the game.I hung in there a much as I could until 3rd period where your offense sealed in the deal with that one timer goal. I don't know what my defenders were doing at that point because they never came back to stop the passing lane of the one timer pass (I guess they wondered off into space, who knows). I was able to get one good chance of a one timer leaving an open net left side but Jordan Staal goes for the shot, he breaks his stick. Sigh... Sorry about Vanek, we mailed him some flowers and a get well soon card. Again, good game man.[/QUOTE]

yea good game man, it was about time I actually held on to a lead and didn't blow it in the shootout. after blowing a 2 goal 3rd period lead against phoenix I was starting to doubt my team lol. and yea thanks for giving Vanek a concussion and knocking him out for 39 games (or as the iOS app likes to call it "5 weeks") in the last 5 minutes of the game nonetheless :-({|=

on a side note, Miller is an absolute beast in this game
 
Friday is here and I'm picking up a flat of beer for tonights gaming. I have Montreal and Calgary on the sched, I see no one pick the Shite Flames so i can play the pc there but if MVP is around tonight fire me a message and we will get'er done.

On a side note, The Oilers are shopping around for a top 6 power forward, and a starting goalie.

Have a great Friday boys, see you online.
 
[quote name='Twick87']would probably be doing you a favor lol[/QUOTE]

I made the switch to Leighton in our second game and he was a wall back there so you may be right lol. I've never seen a goalie like Bryz flop around so much back there in all the NHL games I've played, anyone who's played me probably has seen 3 empty nets to shoot at per game.
 
[quote name='Flyersfan']Anyone have a problem with this? I am working from home today and would rather be in control of my game vs simming it and probably having bryzgalov out 20 games.[/QUOTE]

It's fine to play the CPU. He talked about possibly joining this weekend, but at this point, he shouldn't be surprised to have some of his games played against the CPU.
 
Damn just lost two heartbreakers.

0-1 versus Jets. He scored with 30 seconds left. Very defensive battle.

Then our second game we both turned the offense up. Back and forth till the end when scores in the last forty seconds to take a 4-3 lead.

Awesome games!
 
I'd like to put forth a trade proposal for a deal with the Islanders:

Islanders receive:

LW Taylor Pyatt: 75 ovr/31 yrs old/1.55 M
C Oscar Lundberg: 60 overall/20 years old/3.5 stars potential/.675 M

Rangers receive:
LW Matt Moulson: 82 overall/28 years old/3.42 M

Both Pyatt and Moulson have maxed their potentials out. According to the trade block it is league approved. Thoughts?
 
[quote name='jza1218']I'd like to put forth a trade proposal for a deal with the Islanders:

Islanders receive:

LW Taylor Pyatt: 75 ovr/31 yrs old/1.55 M
C Oscar Lundberg: 60 overall/20 years old/3.5 stars potential/.675 M

Rangers receive:
LW Matt Moulson: 82 overall/28 years old/3.42 M

Both Pyatt and Moulson have maxed their potentials out. According to the trade block it is league approved. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

DAMN, I didn't even think of Moulson when I was looking for a LW...this may sound hypocritical given my recent trade proposal but it seems like the Isles are getting shafted. It's basically Taylor Pyatt for Matt Moulson which doesn't seem fair, maybe add a high pick to balance it out? Unless it's a salary dump by the Isles but I doubt the AI is that smart.

By the way I'm not just saying this because I want Moulson. I won't be a dbag and trade for him if your proposal gets rejected by the league.
 
Pyatt just signed with NYR this offseason, and that got me thinking...does the game know when a player has a no-trade clause? I highly doubt it...
 
[quote name='Twick87']DAMN, I didn't even think of Moulson when I was looking for a LW...this may sound hypocritical given my recent trade proposal but it seems like the Isles are getting shafted. It's basically Taylor Pyatt for Matt Moulson which doesn't seem fair, maybe add a high pick to balance it out? Unless it's a salary dump by the Isles but I doubt the AI is that smart.

By the way I'm not just saying this because I want Moulson. I won't be a dbag and trade for him if your proposal gets rejected by the league.[/QUOTE]

What type of players were each of them?
 
[quote name='Twick87']DAMN, I didn't even think of Moulson when I was looking for a LW...this may sound hypocritical given my recent trade proposal but it seems like the Isles are getting shafted. It's basically Taylor Pyatt for Matt Moulson which doesn't seem fair, maybe add a high pick to balance it out? Unless it's a salary dump by the Isles but I doubt the AI is that smart.

By the way I'm not just saying this because I want Moulson. I won't be a dbag and trade for him if your proposal gets rejected by the league.[/QUOTE]

Well, they are getting a 3.5 star potential center that the islanders were interested in. Plus they are saving three million in payroll the next two seasons.
 
[quote name='Mr_hockey66']Damn just lost two heartbreakers.

0-1 versus Jets. He scored with 30 seconds left. Very defensive battle.

Then our second game we both turned the offense up. Back and forth till the end when scores in the last forty seconds to take a 4-3 lead.

Awesome games![/QUOTE]

Nail biters to the end!! Blake Wheeler clutch both games. Man when you tied it 3-3 my player's were so bummed out they started skating slower. I thought you would take the lead but ended up with a lucky 2 on 1 break there at the end.
 
My opinion on trades is that it's fine to slightly favor one team as far as value, as long as it makes sense and it's too lopsided. Both the CBJ-BUF and NYI-NYR trades fit the bill IMO.
 
Yeah, I'm fine with both trades as well. Rob has to still take a $1.195 hit on his cap. It evens out in my book.
 
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for the NYR-NYI trade I thought it favored the NYR, but not by much. So if nobody else has a problem with it, im fine with it too.
 
[quote name='moojuice']My opinion on trades is that it's fine to slightly favor one team as far as value, as long as it makes sense and it's too lopsided. Both the CBJ-BUF and NYI-NYR trades fit the bill IMO.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think that's a reasonable standard. Honestly, I think the CPU trades are a little harder to regulate too just because you can't really discern what the CPU is trying to accomplish...or how it relates to their plans for the future.

I do have to say though, I think doing the "I'll give you a couple draft picks for a good player" method isn't really fair. I just don't want people trading picks based on the assumption that we won't be playing that long. I mean, I'd like to think we'll get through 3 seasons, but it's hard to really plan for that when we're having to slog through 82 game seasons, dealing with crazy injuries and things out of our control. Just not sure how to handle those types of trades.
 
[quote name='Vulcan2422']AJH, game tonight? Otherwise, I'll put on Auto pilot till Sunday.[/QUOTE]

I will do my best to be on a little later I cant promise anything but I will try. I have been up since 3:50am for work and I have to do it again tomorrow, so I am pretty shot.
 
The Cauucks are now 4-5 after losing 2-1 to moojuice and his Avs. Man I might have to make a big trade to shake things up.
 
[quote name='ajh2298']The Cauucks are now 4-5 after losing 2-1 to moojuice and his Avs. Man I might have to make a big trade to shake things up.[/QUOTE]


You took out Hejduk for 4 games if it's any consolation ;)

I'll try to protect the guys I'm trading, I swear, but man, it's like the UFC bug hit my team. Three straight injuries in three games ( I actually had 4 injuries total so far, one during a sim), luckily the first one in that streak was only for the remainder of the game
 
[quote name='moojuice']You took out Hejduk for 4 games if it's any consolation ;)

I'll try to protect the guys I'm trading, I swear, but man, it's like the UFC bug hit my team. Three straight injuries in three games ( I actually had 4 injuries total so far, one during a sim), luckily the first one in that streak was only for the remainder of the game[/QUOTE]

Well, too many injuries has been a common complaint on the EA forums from what I've read. So, it's not just you.

[quote name='jza1218']So should I go ahead and put the NYI-NYR trade into the game?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think everyone has generally responded positively to it. I'm fine with it.
 
New trade up for talks. Sent over to wild.

I get an improved d and a better goalie. He gets a about the same for what he had and alot of cap room.

Panthers

Ellerby d 0.7 mill 23 77 over all
Kulkov d 1.32 mil 21 83 over all
Clemmensen g 1.2 mil 35 76 over all
4th round pick

Wild

Suter d 7.5 mill 27 88 overall
Christensen c .95 mill 28 77 overall
Harding g 1.90 mill 28 80 overall
 
Just had a good game with the Ducks. Put myself in a hole the first period with 3 penalties and giving up 2 goals. Mounted a nice rally in the 3rd but want enough and lost 4-3. Ended up losing Subban for 20 and taking out Ryan for 35.
 
Really getting tired of losing games where my opponent should have spent half the game in the penalty box. I'm basically losing to teams who just hit mercilessly....most of the hits coming from behind, many straight into the glass. I get that the game doesn't call you for it, guys, but come on. At least try to play a realistic game. You can't just smash somebody into the glass. I really don't know what to do about it other than just asking that people be more honorable. If somebody is face first in the glass, you shouldn't be hitting him.
 
[quote name='moojuice'] I swear, but man, it's like the UFC bug hit my team. Three straight injuries in three games ( I actually had 4 injuries total so far, one during a sim), luckily the first one in that streak was only for the remainder of the game[/QUOTE]

Yea I've had 5 injuries so far, most of em 4-5 games but one of em is for 40 games.

[quote name='n8rockerasu']I do have to say though, I think doing the "I'll give you a couple draft picks for a good player" method isn't really fair. I just don't want people trading picks based on the assumption that we won't be playing that long. I mean, I'd like to think we'll get through 3 seasons, but it's hard to really plan for that when we're having to slog through 82 game seasons, dealing with crazy injuries and things out of our control. Just not sure how to handle those types of trades.[/QUOTE]

You're putting too much stock in draft picks. It's not like the NFL, unless your drafted in the top 20 or so you're most likely not gonna be a regular in the NHL for a couple of years at best. And the reason I was willing to move picks was because my system is deep and that's all Columbus wanted. I'm confident I can build my team in free agency/trades if I have too.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Really getting tired of losing games where my opponent should have spent half the game in the penalty box. I'm basically losing to teams who just hit mercilessly....most of the hits coming from behind, many straight into the glass. I get that the game doesn't call you for it, guys, but come on. At least try to play a realistic game. You can't just smash somebody into the glass. I really don't know what to do about it other than just asking that people be more honorable. If somebody is face first in the glass, you shouldn't be hitting him.[/QUOTE]


I hate to say it but, I think this is why Rob and I had an awesome game. We both respected each other enough to not go for the hit if it was there to injure anybody. If we saw them on the glass, we either poke checked or went into board play. My thing is, I started a rivalry with Florida, so those games are going to get dirty no matter what happens and I'm fine with that. We need some of this. Which also translates to trades. If we had a good game, expect a good trade. If we didn't, well then guess what. You're going to keep shopping. I actually tried to start a rivalry with Destro, but he was having none of it. Trying to keep it true to the real lighting rivalries. That's just my take on it honestly.
 
Me and Mr_Hockey66 have come to an agreement and are submitting for trade approval...

D R.Suter (88 overall, 27 yrs old, 7.540m, 13 YR)
C D.Powe (74 overall, 27 yrs old, 1.065m, 2 YR)
G J.Harding (80 overall, 28 yrs old, 1.9m, 2 YR)

For

D Kolikov (83 overall, 21 yrs old, 1.325m, 1 YR)
D K.Ellerby (77 overall, 23 yrs old, 0.7m, 1 YR)
G S.Clemmenson (76 overall, 35 yrs old, 1.2m, 2 YR)
 
[quote name='Twick87']You're putting too much stock in draft picks. It's not like the NFL, unless your drafted in the top 20 or so you're most likely not gonna be a regular in the NHL for a couple of years at best. And the reason I was willing to move picks was because my system is deep and that's all Columbus wanted. I'm confident I can build my team in free agency/trades if I have too.[/QUOTE]

Your trade isn't the one I was referencing. Phoenix has one proposed in game (which hasn't been posted in here) of like their 1st round pick in 2013 and their 1st round pick in 2014, for a player in the low-mid 80s (can't remember who it was). Basically, they're morgaging a future that may not come to grab a top 6 forward right now. Just not sure how I feel about that strategy...especially when it's trading with the CPU who doesn't know any different.
 
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