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[quote name='Ziv']I'm still liking the specislist package. I haven't found the perfect perk setup yet, but I'm getting better streaks than before. I'm using this a lot more than I thought I would. I thought is be support all the way.[/QUOTE]

i start out with SoH, hardline, steady aim, than move to Assasin, Quick Draw, Deadly Silence. all pro perks of course. thats what usually helps me get to the specialist bonus.

I usually only run specialist if I'm with my friends or FFA...otherwise i run support.


MK14 Silencer Rapid Fire has to another sick set up. 2 hit kills from any distance and low recoil. its just as good as the Type 95 IMHO.
 
Call of Duty is what went wrong with the game industry, it has saturated to the point where you will see most FPS games being compared to the COD Series and not stand alone. *Facepalm* So IMO Black Ops was and I still think is the best installment in the series. Not only did they try to make a great story, but the most balanced MP and some kickass zombie mode that I still play til this day. I haven't thought of buying MW3. I wouldn't mind another installment of the COD Series if it was purely zombies by treyarch. This horde mode in MW3 Sucks so badly.
 
[quote name='Rosterking']Call of Duty is what went wrong with the game industry, it has saturated to the point where you will see most FPS games being compared to the COD Series and not stand alone. *Facepalm* So IMO Black Ops was and I still think is the best installment in the series. Not only did they try to make a great story, but the most balanced MP and some kickass zombie mode that I still play til this day. I haven't thought of buying MW3. I wouldn't mind another installment of the COD Series if it was purely zombies by treyarch. This horde mode in MW3 Sucks so badly.[/QUOTE]

That is such nonsense. You know why there's a COD every year? Because people want one every year. Just because you don't doesn't mean the millions of hardcore COD fans don't. For a lot of people, this is their game that they play all year. That doesn't mean their any less of a gamer it just means they haven't different tastes. I'm a hardcore COD player and every year it is a big difference for me and Black Ops was really a step backwards in MP and MW3 is something completely different with the kill streak variations and new game modes. And you know why games are compared to COD, because COD is a brilliant FPS.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Treyarch sucking is pretty much fact.[/QUOTE]

Treyarch are good at supporting their games unlike Infinity Ward. There's still big problems in COD 4 and MW2 what haven't big fixed to this day. If Infinity Ward had the same support ethic as Treyarch did then they really would be the best dev.
 
[quote name='Darklurkr23']I heard that Elite is having all sorts of problems. It really worth it?[/QUOTE]

if you are going to buy the dlc anyway, them yes. if you are buying it for all the "features" it has, dont bother. at least not yet. i get frustrated at elite every time i try to do something, because some shit just doesnt work. i mean, half the time you cant even get on elite on the xbox because they are "experiencing high traffic volume, sorry" id say just make a free account, unless you plan on getting the dlc anyway. if you want dlc, may as well save $10.
 
Last night was a stuttering mess. Lag has always been a problem for me, but last night it was migrating hosts and missing frames every other match.

Would a wired connection to my router help at all? I ask because of lag compensation and all that jazz.
 
I have come to the conclusion that this game is terrible at matchmaking. IMHO, ping is priority and there is no secondary attempt at matching skill level. I will be the first to admit that I'm not great at these games, but I usually make significant improvement as I play as I gain experience. It just isn't happening in this game.

I'm also having a more difficult time picking up enemies, visually. Everything in this game just seems to be the same color to me.

I hate to blame lag (again, I know I'm not good), but there is something wrong with this game.
 
[quote name='Mayday']Treyarch are good at supporting their games unlike Infinity Ward. There's still big problems in COD 4 and MW2 what haven't big fixed to this day. If Infinity Ward had the same support ethic as Treyarch did then they really would be the best dev.[/QUOTE]

I've already stated this, but MW3 has been patched/hotfixed 4-5 times in the month it's been out. More fixes on the way. COD4 was never tweaked for balance, I'll give you that. It wasn't all that broken either. One of the big reasons MW2 was never fixed is because more than half the IW team left soon after the game's release and it had older security. Black Ops and MW3 both have the updated security, which is why both games got a lot of support. If you're talking about the glitched lobbies in COD4, well those are in WaW too.

To sum it up, Treyarch sucks.
 
[quote name='Trakan']I've already stated this, but MW3 has been patched/hotfixed 4-5 times in the month it's been out. More fixes on the way. COD4 was never tweaked for balance, I'll give you that. It wasn't all that broken either. One of the big reasons MW2 was never fixed is because more than half the IW team left soon after the game's release and it had older security. Black Ops and MW3 both have the updated security, which is why both games got a lot of support. If you're talking about the glitched lobbies in COD4, well those are in WaW too.

To sum it up, Treyarch sucks.[/QUOTE]

I really disagree that Treyarch sucks but if that's your opinion, then fair enough. There's still huge problems with MW3 though that IW have to get on. Like the spawns, what are god awful (especially in KC). The Type 95 is still WAY overpowered, those stupid fucking slo-mo lobbies and the stealth bomber glitch. Treyarch know how to handle support, but Robert Bowling is more focused on selling DLC than fixing games.
 
If they stopped making COD and BF games, I wouldn't have a need for the xbox. I buy a 2k basketball game every other year but never play any of the other ones out like Batman, Saints Row, Skyrm. I'm one of the old school 2k football fans but I broke down last year and got the madden but just didn't enjoy it. I usually have a fps game for several months before I ever get to the single player mode, if I finish it at all.
 
[quote name='Mayday']I really disagree that Treyarch sucks but if that's your opinion, then fair enough. There's still huge problems with MW3 though that IW have to get on. Like the spawns, what are god awful (especially in KC). The Type 95 is still WAY overpowered, those stupid fucking slo-mo lobbies and the stealth bomber glitch. Treyarch know how to handle support, but Robert Bowling is more focused on selling DLC than fixing games.[/QUOTE]
Treyarch murdered a perfectly good game engine, blatantly lied about customization, overhyped and underperformed on their product. They had no choice but to support Black Ops, the cat was out of the bag the second people popped the game into a retail version of the console. If Black Ops had remotely the polish that MW2 did, it would have been competent but when you can't even get smoke effect right that previously existed in the last game under the same engine...
 
[quote name='Mayday']I really disagree that Treyarch sucks but if that's your opinion, then fair enough. There's still huge problems with MW3 though that IW have to get on. Like the spawns, what are god awful (especially in KC). The Type 95 is still WAY overpowered, those stupid fucking slo-mo lobbies and the stealth bomber glitch. Treyarch know how to handle support, but Robert Bowling is more focused on selling DLC than fixing games.[/QUOTE]

I guess that shows how much you really know. The stealth bomber glitch and the slo-mo lobbies are already fixed. The spawns are godawful, yes, just like Black Ops spawns were before they patched them. The Type 95 is overpowered, I agree. The Famas from Black Ops wasn't patched until like 6 months in, and it was still overpowered/easily the best gun in the game.
 
[quote name='Trakan']I guess that shows how much you really know. The stealth bomber glitch and the slo-mo lobbies are already fixed. The spawns are godawful, yes, just like Black Ops spawns were before they patched them. The Type 95 is overpowered, I agree. The Famas from Black Ops wasn't patched until like 6 months in, and it was still overpowered/easily the best gun in the game.[/QUOTE]

and correct me if im wrong, but wasnt the g11 just as much bullshit as the type minus the rapid fire the type gets before they patched it? i remember getting 1 burst kills all the time with that thing... though i didnt use it too much as i reverted back too mw2 for the majority of my cod play.
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Hopefully they can patch the horrible maps.[/QUOTE]

EXACTLY. This is probably my main gripe about MW3, NONE of the maps are memorable compared to the previous games. I'd take 4 great maps over 16 mediocre ones any day of the week. Hopefully the DLC doesnt suck.
 
Hopefully they can patch the horrible maps.
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The maps are all too claustrophobic and too "complex" -- too many openings, doors, tunnels, whatever. I guess it's so players don't get a territorial advantage one way or another but it makes for sheer frustration since it's just impossible to see/know where the hell everyone is coming from. While I've gotten better since the game came out, I'm not settling in the way I have any of the prior COD games...and it's impossible for me to get a really long kill streak going. I'll have decent rounds but never a long streak of consecutive kills.

I went back and started replaying MW2 for the first time in over a year and immediately you can see the superior design and thought process in the maps. They're more distinct, they're more open and you don't feel like enemies are breathing down your neck every second. I also like the WAW maps and most of the Black Ops maps -- MW3 is far and away the worst lot by a wide margin IMO.

The other thing too that I notice about MW3 is how many rounds -- I'd say almost 90% of all I've played -- never make it to 10 minutes in TDM. It's over usually with a few minutes to spare. It's more frantic but it's also less fun. Other games have had a map or two like that -- but not all of them.
 
yeah i kind of agree about the maps. though there are 3 i really like. i like mission, dome, and resistance. perfect smg maps and suit my play style nicely (i like to rush alot) mission is perfect for smg's imo and so far i think its my favorite map on disc... still no scrapyard or highrise though :(
 
[quote name='crzyjoeguy']yeah i kind of agree about the maps. though there are 3 i really like. i like mission, dome, and resistance. perfect smg maps and suit my play style nicely (i like to rush alot) mission is perfect for smg's imo and so far i think its my favorite map on disc... still no scrapyard or highrise though :([/QUOTE]

Yea, I agree. Some of the maps of fun but I a lot seem very close quarters. But I think that's just because how Infinity Ward likes to pace their games.


[quote name='Trakan']I guess that shows how much you really know. The stealth bomber glitch and the slo-mo lobbies are already fixed. The spawns are godawful, yes, just like Black Ops spawns were before they patched them. The Type 95 is overpowered, I agree. The Famas from Black Ops wasn't patched until like 6 months in, and it was still overpowered/easily the best gun in the game.[/QUOTE]

I've run into a slo-mo lobbies but I guess I missed the news on the other fixes, My Bad!
 
I skipped every CoD since the first modern warfare and I'm having a hard time getting a grip on this game. I used to be a .80-1.00 K/D ratio guy (never great but I could have my big games) but now I'm lucky to get in a .80 K/D ratio game at any point.

I'm not going to call shenanigans on anyone or anything because I'm sure I'm just missing something but when I watch the kill cam after I'm killed it seems like I'm being destroyed by as little as 1-3 bullets to the chest and I've pumped a fair amount into them. So I ask, is the kill cam accurate? Are there any tips for someone that missed the last 3 iterations?
 
[quote name='ZForce915']I skipped every CoD since the first modern warfare and I'm having a hard time getting a grip on this game. I used to be a .80-1.00 K/D ratio guy (never great but I could have my big games) but now I'm lucky to get in a .80 K/D ratio game at any point.

I'm not going to call shenanigans on anyone or anything because I'm sure I'm just missing something but when I watch the kill cam after I'm killed it seems like I'm being destroyed by as little as 1-3 bullets to the chest and I've pumped a fair amount into them. So I ask, is the kill cam accurate? Are there any tips for someone that missed the last 3 iterations?[/QUOTE]

Try using a more powerful rifle (try the G36C or ACR)
 
I can't wait for that FMG9 nerf. Every time I do well with a shotgun, everybody on the other team just starts pulling out the lolsecondaries and they kill me instantly.

Apparently they are looking into patching all of my major problems with this game (Except removing deathstreaks. Goddamn garbage players need IW to wipe their asses.). Hopefully they can make this game much less rage-inducing in the future, because I don't know how much longer I'm gonna play once I max everything with the way the game is now.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']I can't wait for that FMG9 nerf. Every time I do well with a shotgun, everybody on the other team just starts pulling out the lolsecondaries and they kill me instantly.

Apparently they are looking into patching all of my major problems with this game (Except removing deathstreaks. Goddamn garbage players need IW to wipe their asses.). Hopefully they can make this game much less rage-inducing in the future, because I don't know how much longer I'm gonna play once I max everything with the way the game is now.[/QUOTE]
If you're rocking a shotgun and they have enough time to go through the FMG9 animation and kill you, you're too slow or you're giving yourself away before you fire.
 
[quote name='Mad39er']If you're rocking a shotgun and they have enough time to go through the FMG9 animation and kill you, you're too slow or you're giving yourself away before you fire.[/QUOTE]

No, I mean they start running around with the damn things. All the time.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']No, I mean they start running around with the damn things. All the time.[/QUOTE]
So then you're inadequately equipped to deal with them since they're exactly in your same range of panic spamming. Pick up a dropped SMG or use Overkill if you're intent on keeping the Speed bonus of the Shotgun/SMG class. That and learn to use C4 offensive and defensively, anybody closing the distance will learn a painful lesson that you can put on cars to make an even bigger boom.

It may be overpowered but it's not hard to beat because you know they're rushing, you just have to spot them first.
 
[quote name='Mad39er']So then you're inadequately equipped to deal with them since they're exactly in your same range of panic spamming. Pick up a dropped SMG or use Overkill if you're intent on keeping the Speed bonus of the Shotgun/SMG class. That and learn to use C4 offensive and defensively, anybody closing the distance will learn a painful lesson that you can put on cars to make an even bigger boom.

It may be overpowered but it's not hard to beat because you know they're rushing, you just have to spot them first.[/QUOTE]

Using a different gun doesn't solve the problem of shotguns not beating secondaries in gun-on-gun action most of the time. As I said, I usually die instantly, I don't even see myself firing my gun on the killcam.

The lag compensation in this game is garbage. Everybody seems to be saying I should artificially slow down my connection, or play while torrenting, since that will give me the advantage instead.

I'm probably gonna try that out tonight, we'll see how it goes.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']Using a different gun doesn't solve the problem of shotguns not beating secondaries in gun-on-gun action most of the time. As I said, I usually die instantly, I don't even see myself firing my gun on the killcam.

The lag compensation in this game is garbage. Everybody seems to be saying I should artificially slow down my connection, or play while torrenting, since that will give me the advantage instead.

I'm probably gonna try that out tonight, we'll see how it goes.[/QUOTE]
Lag switching will get you banned. Upgrade your connection because it's not lag compensation or you actually losing a gun fight, it's your connection to the Host. Once you dip into a 3 bar things get bad quickly. One of the best things you can do is when you join a lobby pay attention to the matches, if you end up in one over 50 ms, back out and search for a new set of matches. Anything over 75 I don't go into except if it's with a party from around the country.

I've found the shotguns underpowered compared to MW2, they were awesome in MW2 but completely just blech until you upgrade them for damage. Even then I won't touch them.
 
[quote name='Mad39er']Lag switching will get you banned. Upgrade your connection because it's not lag compensation or you actually losing a gun fight, it's your connection to the Host. Once you dip into a 3 bar things get bad quickly. One of the best things you can do is when you join a lobby pay attention to the matches, if you end up in one over 50 ms, back out and search for a new set of matches. Anything over 75 I don't go into except if it's with a party from around the country.

I've found the shotguns underpowered compared to MW2, they were awesome in MW2 but completely just blech until you upgrade them for damage. Even then I won't touch them.[/QUOTE]

I have an excellent internet connection. The problem is that it's TOO GOOD. The game gives people with good connections a disadvantage.

This video details the problem well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJOpFCCnv0E

This game needs some serious fucking work.
 
LOL. Are you serious? By purposely lag switching his poor playstyle you think that's lag compensation? He's fucking terrible and that video proves nothing. If you walk out widely and allow the opposing player to pie the corner on you, you deserve to get shot first.
 
[quote name='Mad39er']LOL. Are you serious? By purposely lag switching his poor playstyle you think that's lag compensation? He's fucking terrible and that video proves nothing. If you walk out widely and allow the opposing player to pie the corner on you, you deserve to get shot first.[/QUOTE]


No, lag compensation is the advantage the game gives to laggier players. By giving himself a shittier connection, the game gave him an advantage in gunfights.

Of course, you seem to be implying that he should be sitting in a corner or just looking down a hallway all game. Perhaps that's the real secret to success in this game, but I prefer to not play like a bitch.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']No, lag compensation is the advantage the game gives to laggier players. By giving himself a shittier connection, the game gave him an advantage in gunfights.

Of course, you seem to be implying that he should be sitting in a corner or just looking down a hallway all game. Perhaps that's the real secret to success in this game, but I prefer to not play like a bitch.[/QUOTE]
LOL. Just because you run around with a shotgun does not make you a good hunter/killer. Lag compensation does not make you magically move forward into their crosshairs, you do. Move like an idiot and you get lit up like a Christmas tree. Poor example of gameplay + lag switching to accomodate that style =! a good argument.
 
[quote name='Mad39er']LOL. Just because you run around with a shotgun does not make you a good hunter/killer. Lag compensation does not make you magically move forward into their crosshairs, you do. Move like an idiot and you get lit up like a Christmas tree. Poor example of gameplay + lag switching to accomodate that style =! a good argument.[/QUOTE]

You're missing the part where I say I die instantly, or the game thinks I don't fire my weapon. This is a PROBLEM.

Infinity Ward has acknowledged the advantage it gives to players with shittier connections. They haven't said if they are going to do anything about it. If Infinity Ward decides that people who pay for better internet connections should be penalized, then using a lag switch in this case isn't cheating, it's leveling the playing field.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']You're missing the part where I say I die instantly, or the game thinks I don't fire my weapon. This is a PROBLEM.

Infinity Ward has acknowledged the advantage it gives to players with shittier connections. They haven't said if they are going to do anything about it. If Infinity Ward decides that people who pay for better internet connections should be penalized, then using a lag switch in this case isn't cheating, it's leveling the playing field.[/QUOTE]
Out of sheer curiousity, what is your connection speed? I'm not going to try and diagnose you but for the sake of putting it all out there. I run a 1.73 k/d currently with a 25/25 up/down connection.
 
[quote name='Mad39er']Out of sheer curiousity, what is your connection speed? I'm not going to try and diagnose you but for the sake of putting it all out there. I run a 1.73 k/d currently with a 25/25 up/down connection.[/QUOTE]

15/5 down/up.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']15/5 down/up.[/QUOTE]
Cable? If so that's probably part of your problem, especially at peak hours.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']You're missing the part where I say I die instantly, or the game thinks I don't fire my weapon. This is a PROBLEM.

Infinity Ward has acknowledged the advantage it gives to players with shittier connections. They haven't said if they are going to do anything about it. If Infinity Ward decides that people who pay for better internet connections should be penalized, then using a lag switch in this case isn't cheating, it's leveling the playing field.[/QUOTE]

Well I am on the other end of this problem. I have a shitty connection, live in the country and use DSL because its all we can get. This game just like Black OPs before it is virtually unplayable to me. I have three bars all the time and am lucky to get into a game under 125ms. I struggle to get a 1 K/D in MW3 and BO as well. In MW2 I was over 1.5 K/D. Most of that is the stupid connection issues. I am trying my best to like this game but after dying repeatedly to people I have shot first (and hit according to my screen) I just don't know how much more I can take. Last night I walked up right behind a guy with dead silence pro, assassin pro, silenced ACR on so he had no clue I was there. Then I proceeded to shoot him which caused him to turn around and fucking knife me. The only reason he knew I was there would have been the hits he took when I shot him. There is no reason for shit like that to happen. Plus why the fuck do people still commando lunge with the knife? Who the hell thought that was a good idea to have in a game? I honestly don't know how much longer I can play this game before I have a rage induced drain hemorrhage. I hate BF3 but I think at this point I would rather play that.
 
[quote name='TheBigAndy']LOL, probably on disc DLC.[/QUOTE]

They'd never release extra perks or guns as DLC for MP, Call of Duty never has, and a LOT of people would claim it being as an unfair advantage. Probably just concepts that were scrapped and the developers were too lazy to the take them out of the game.
 
[quote name='MrPiggles']They'd never release extra perks or guns as DLC for MP, Call of Duty never has, and a LOT of people would claim it being as an unfair advantage. Probably just concepts that were scrapped and the developers were too lazy to the take them out of the game.[/QUOTE]

I could see them doing it with Elite. Maybe they'll start doing it to charge more for the map packs or to try to compete with BF. Either way, I don't know why they'd include the AK-74u in Spec Ops and not MP.
 
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