Demon's Souls - Atlus & From Software's Action RPG - October 6

Does anyone have advice for the second part of the blue dragon. If I stand under him and shoot soul arrows will they hit (the screen doesn't tilt up enough for me to see). Or is there a better place to stand to shoot him with magic?
 
[quote name='happy']Does anyone have advice for the second part of the blue dragon. If I stand under him and shoot soul arrows will they hit (the screen doesn't tilt up enough for me to see). Or is there a better place to stand to shoot him with magic?[/QUOTE]

I just stood in the doorway right underneath him locked on and shot him with the soul arrow. It took a very long time to finally take him out. Thankfully I had an obscene amount of fresh spice.
 
So last night Jodou helped me get the Rogue's Trophy (all rings) and 4 weapon upgrade trophies.

Then, Jodou, Biorr and I raped the shit out of Penetrator in NewGame+ (although I just shot back and shot arrows lol.)

So yeah, Jodou deserves some kind of good Samaritan award for Demon's Souls. Just sayin.
 
22 str. But if you really don't want to pump pts into STR, just don't. You can still weild the shield and have 100% physical cut (most important fire cut), it'll just drain a little more endurance on each block.

[quote name='DrFoo']... and I still have to beat Scirvir although I'm guessing I could at least get him to jump off a ledge or something.[/QUOTE]
For scirvir, you can just stand behind the wood supports (on your right facing scirvir). He'll end up wasting all his mp shooting fire. Eventually, he'll run out of mp (won't regenerate) and become pure melee. From there, his pattern is easy to see.
 
[quote name='Snake2715']You have a large ax?

You can hit him and it will knock him down... right when his animation shows his left hand up by his left knee swing again. He stands right up into it and gets knocked over again. If you can time it right you can finish him without taking a hit.

The one thing is to get the skeleton out of there before you do that.. you may have to cast the cloak to lure the skeleton away first without him attacking you. This gives you the entire area to fight in.[/QUOTE]

Man, I took on Satsuki about 10 times last night and most times I can get him down to a sliver, but I just can't stop him from healing. He does it so damn quickly and I always hit him just as he takes it. The problem is that you can't be too agressive or he will end up nailing you with a baskstab or something. I have no problem if I'm careful and roll/dodge. But if you do any of that when he is abotu to heal there's no way you can stop him. I think it might just not be possible now. I think I need to do WAY more damage per hit (as with the winged spear +6 I can only do about 25 per hit).

I di dtry the axe method and I can see how it might work, but the problem is you end up knocking him back and have to readjust your position every time and once he gets backed up to the rocks you end up recoiling when you hit him (and the rocks). As I was only doing 15 or so damage with a normal axe I had that was going to take forever. And invariably I would mess up the timing and then be open to a one-shot kill without my shield up.

I may try to look at the axe upgrades and see if I can get anything to +5/+10 that way and maybe try it again. Any suggestions on axe upgrades? Ie, any special upgrade paths I should pursue?

The one thing I was able to accomplish last night was finally to farm enough spiderstone shards out of the miners in 2-2 so that I could upgrade the sticky compound long bow all the way to +5. Got my first trophy from this game in a long time ;). I need to work on the shield a bit more too (still at +6 on that) but for that I need large shards of hardstone which are harder to come by.

I'm also thinking that while 2-2 is black I should try the crystal gecko nest. I'd hate to screw it up though. I have rage of god now but it seems highly ineffective. I tried it on the normal grunts in 1-1 and it seemed like you had to be really really close to them for it to work. I thought it was some sort of awesome spell? I can't even tell if it's working and it seems really slow to get going. I can't see getting all the geckos with that. Do the ones in the nest regenerate one time for each boss beaten like the others do? If so, I guess I have 4 chances there and could try it once.

I'm also thinking maybe I can try Rydell in 3-1...
 
Rydell is pretty easy. You can do the poison cloud trick on him. Although, he will notice you before you get close enough to do it, but just cast it close to him, get him to chase you through it and run away far enough so he'll lose interest. It should take 2 or 3 casts.

Firestorm is a million times better than God's Rage, in my opinion. It's stronger and it casts instantly.
 
I hear Northern Regalia with Clever Rat's Ring works real well against Satsuki. Riposte and backstab seems like the best strategy, but it does take practice to learn the timing. Also, Poison Cloud apparently mitigates heal by 50%, so using that before entering the fight should help too.

Last night I just farmed for stones for low level upgrades. Got my Scimitar to +5, my Long Sword to +5, my Compound Long Bow +1, and Purple Flame Shield to +2. I actually like farming, so I think I will try and go as far as I can with the low level upgrades before finishing up either 4-1 or freeing Sage Freke in 3-1.
 
Thanks for the advice option and chibijosh. Yeah I tried scirvir a couple of times but even with the purple flame shield his fire explosion thing one shotted me. I was thinking I'd have to use some sort of cheats with poison cloud to beat Rydell. It would be nice if it was reasonably possible to beat these phantoms in a regular 1v1 fight but they don't really give you a choice other than to abuse shit.

Also io or anybody trying to get spider stone, pure black world tendency helps so much. Maybe I've just gotten lucky but when I was near white I got 0 shards in 15 runs and now that I'm pure black I've gotten around 2 shards or chunks on the last 3 runs through the 2-2 miner tunnel.
 
I got a pure spiderstone for beating the spider in 2-1. Should I save it for something? Also, I have 3 demon's souls sitting in my storage, what should I use them on?
 
[quote name='SynGamer']I got a pure spiderstone for beating the spider in 2-1. Should I save it for something? Also, I have 3 demon's souls sitting in my storage, what should I use them on?[/QUOTE]

I believe you'll need the spiderstone if you want to
upgrade the compound low bow to sticky.
Hold on to the demon's souls until
you free Freke.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']I got a pure spiderstone for beating the spider in 2-1. Should I save it for something? Also, I have 3 demon's souls sitting in my storage, what should I use them on?[/QUOTE]



What demon souls do you have? I assume it's 1-1 (used to upgrade to Scraping Spear), 1-2 (used for Spell Warding) at least.

I'd save the spiderstone for bow ugprade, I forget which one (I think Sticky/Viscous), but it's high level.
 
having a good time with the game. got the awesome sword from the storm king world only to be disappointed when it didn't work as i had planned it to in the nexus : ( makes killing the mantas a breeze though and looks awesome.

did all the pure back stuff with relative ease yesterday except for the vinlands since I haven't played world 5 yet.

i don't understand how people can get someone down to 30% and then not beat them. a heal is a free opening to attack! satsuki in particular is incredibly easy, as you can block every single one of his attacks. maybe it'd be a little more difficult with a short range weapon like a falchion, but grab yourself a spear with some upgrades on it (or a regular one and enchant/light weapon it), constantly hold block, walk into his face to make him attack, walk backwards as he is attacking, poke him, repeat till dead. if you use a shield with a high hit res you'll never take any damage from him. if he rolls away roll after him, just constantly hold block and poke, its the beauty of the spear. if you need to recover stamina, bait an attack and instead of poking, just block and back up. usually he'll miss and you'll recover you stamina drop your shield as soon as he's missed for a sec to speed up recovery, but not necessary if you're not going crazy with attacks.
 
[quote name='DrFoo']Thanks for the advice option and chibijosh. Yeah I tried scirvir a couple of times but even with the purple flame shield his fire explosion thing one shotted me. I was thinking I'd have to use some sort of cheats with poison cloud to beat Rydell. It would be nice if it was reasonably possible to beat these phantoms in a regular 1v1 fight but they don't really give you a choice other than to abuse shit.

Also io or anybody trying to get spider stone, pure black world tendency helps so much. Maybe I've just gotten lucky but when I was near white I got 0 shards in 15 runs and now that I'm pure black I've gotten around 2 shards or chunks on the last 3 runs through the 2-2 miner tunnel.[/QUOTE]
if you've made it to the point where you can farm cloudstones, you can upgrade your purple flame shield to a dark purple flame shield which has a much better magic resistance at the cost of some hit res i believe. all the phantoms are 100% doable with "legit" tactics, they are just time consuming but its a great sense of achievement when you finally beat them if they were giving you a hard time.
 
[quote name='DrFoo']
Also io or anybody trying to get spider stone, pure black world tendency helps so much. Maybe I've just gotten lucky but when I was near white I got 0 shards in 15 runs and now that I'm pure black I've gotten around 2 shards or chunks on the last 3 runs through the 2-2 miner tunnel.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I just posted right before you how I got the bow to +5 and finally got that trophy ;). I was getting a spiderstone shard every trip or two vs once every 10-15 when it was near white. The only problem was that I was getting chunks more often than shards, and I actually needed the smaller shards and NOT chunks :lol:.

[quote name='gunm']I hear Northern Regalia with Clever Rat's Ring works real well against Satsuki. Riposte and backstab seems like the best strategy, but it does take practice to learn the timing. Also, Poison Cloud apparently mitigates heal by 50%, so using that before entering the fight should help too.

Last night I just farmed for stones for low level upgrades. Got my Scimitar to +5, my Long Sword to +5, my Compound Long Bow +1, and Purple Flame Shield to +2. I actually like farming, so I think I will try and go as far as I can with the low level upgrades before finishing up either 4-1 or freeing Sage Freke in 3-1.[/QUOTE]

OK, what is this Regalia thing? I tried clever rat's ring but thye problem is that it is very hard for me to get to 30% without simply being killed as he pretty much one-shots me. The only time I actually got to 30% was when the skeleton joined in and dinged me a bit. I also hit him with poison once but that made little difference - I think it wore off before he got to healing anyway and once he was in close range I couldn't cast it again without getting killed.

[quote name='ChibiJosh']Rydell is pretty easy. You can do the poison cloud trick on him. Although, he will notice you before you get close enough to do it, but just cast it close to him, get him to chase you through it and run away far enough so he'll lose interest. It should take 2 or 3 casts.

Firestorm is a million times better than God's Rage, in my opinion. It's stronger and it casts instantly.[/QUOTE]

How do you get firestorm? I'll try Rydell since I already took care of the WT events there anyway (so I don't need to go to the next boss today). I'm confused as to where the primevil demon is though from the walkthrough - I don't want to mess with that Yurt guy and when I got there before I just saw him in a cage and no other way to get down so I turned back.

crystal - I could do the dark purple shield as well but it seemed not as good as a fully-upgraded regular one so I think I'll stay with that. It always seems like I'm getting pounded with regular attacks vs magic so I don't want to lose the hit res.
 
I don't agree with gunm's tactic, Satsuki is too fast, the Northern Regalia is too slow, and combined with Clever Rat's ring @ 30% health, you're putting yourself in danger.

I think a 1H sword & shield is the best combo. You should NEVER have >50% equipment burden, cause being able to roll and dodge quickly is almost mandatory to play well in this game.

Just keep blocking and when he hits your shield and it bounces off, keep using your R1 weak attack till he rolls away. Your stamina should recover and you should repeat.

Word of warning, when he prepares to do his strong attack with the katana (which can one shot you), it DOES track, so if he prepares his sword and you sidestep around him it WILL lock on and hit you, so your best bet is to either block that or roll back.
 
You can get more than one purple flame shield, you can always have both on hand and switch to one when you know you'll be facing more magic. the game to be seems to be much about preparation as it is anything else. I think some people just get stubborn and try to use the same set of gear for everything rather than using all the options available to them.
 
[quote name='IRHari']I think a 1H sword & shield is the best combo. You should NEVER have >50% equipment burden, cause being able to roll and dodge quickly is almost mandatory to play well in this game.[/QUOTE]
I think the ability of the spear to attack and block at the same time makes it perfect for this phantom. His attacks do come quickly, so it is easy to make a mistake such as getting hit in the middle of an attack. With spear and shield, you cannot make this mistake unless you let go of the block button.
 
I haven't taken on Satsuki in New Game+, but I beat him the first time standing toe to toe with him with a shield and spear. It was the only time I really never used the roll tactic because if you don't roll just right he gets a clean hit on you. The spear's reach also helps close the gap when you anticipate his healing. He was by far the toughest nonboss in the game, especially since you can't cheese him like the other black phantom NPCs (except for the executioner).
 
io:

The northern regalia is a sword. I think you get it by combining the soulbrandt and the demonbrandt or something like that.
You get firestorm using the dragon demon soul (2-3 boss). And, I think you get it from the witch, not Freke (Freke gives you fireball).

I'm annoyed at how difficult it is to find blue phantoms now.
 
[quote name='IRHari']I don't agree with gunm's tactic, Satsuki is too fast, the Northern Regalia is too slow, and combined with Clever Rat's ring @ 30% health, you're putting yourself in danger.

I think a 1H sword & shield is the best combo. You should NEVER have >50% equipment burden, cause being able to roll and dodge quickly is almost mandatory to play well in this game.

Just keep blocking and when he hits your shield and it bounces off, keep using your R1 weak attack till he rolls away. Your stamina should recover and you should repeat.

Word of warning, when he prepares to do his strong attack with the katana (which can one shot you), it DOES track, so if he prepares his sword and you sidestep around him it WILL lock on and hit you, so your best bet is to either block that or roll back.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='salty tbone']I haven't taken on Satsuki in New Game+, but I beat him the first time standing toe to toe with him with a shield and spear. It was the only time I really never used the roll tactic because if you don't roll just right he gets a clean hit on you. The spear's reach also helps close the gap when you anticipate his healing. He was by far the toughest nonboss in the game, especially since you can't cheese him like the other black phantom NPCs (except for the executioner).[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I had no problem fighting him with the spear/shield combo. The only problem was that in being careful not to get hit by him I can't get to him when he heals (I mean, I miss it by a half second or so).

[quote name='ChibiJosh']io:

The northern regalia is a sword. I think you get it by combining the soulbrandt and the demonbrandt or something like that.
You get firestorm using the dragon demon soul (2-3 boss). And, I think you get it from the witch, not Freke (Freke gives you fireball).

I'm annoyed at how difficult it is to find blue phantoms now.[/QUOTE]

Well, damn, wish I had known about firestorm - all the guides say to get god's wrath because it is so awesome so I got that as soon as I saw it available - also from the 2-3 boss soul. So no firestorm for me this playthrough I guess :bomb:.
 
[quote name='IRHari']So last night Jodou helped me get the Rogue's Trophy (all rings) and 4 weapon upgrade trophies.

Then, Jodou, Biorr and I raped the shit out of Penetrator in NewGame+ (although I just shot back and shot arrows lol.)

So yeah, Jodou deserves some kind of good Samaritan award for Demon's Souls. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]/flex! :lol:

[quote name='io']OK, what is this Regalia thing? I tried clever rat's ring but thye problem is that it is very hard for me to get to 30% without simply being killed as he pretty much one-shots me. The only time I actually got to 30% was when the skeleton joined in and dinged me a bit. I also hit him with poison once but that made little difference - I think it wore off before he got to healing anyway and once he was in close range I couldn't cast it again without getting killed.[/QUOTE]
They're referring to a tactic where you intentionally get your health below 30% to stack damage bonuses to the point where every swing is deadly. Many people use it on the man-eater boss as to eliminate the first one quickly. Add black turpentine as needed.
 
[quote name='io']Well, damn, wish I had known about firestorm - all the guides say to get god's wrath because it is so awesome so I got that as soon as I saw it available - also from the 2-3 boss soul. So no firestorm for me this playthrough I guess :bomb:.[/QUOTE]
It's situational: firestorm hits randomly whereas God's Wrath is a complete 360 attack.
 
Before I get any farther in the game, was hunter a good choice of class? I went for it for speed and the bow, but I don't want to put 20 hours in with her if it's a shit class.
 
Yeah, with the Clever Rat's Ring damage stack, a few good swings with a high dmg weapon like Regalia or Meat Cleaver and your target is dead.

Puma, it's been mentioned before, but class doesn't matter except in the very beginning of the game. Once you pass 1-1 you can make your character into whatever you want.
 
If you didnt' start off as a magic using class, then you need a catalyst (wand) and at least 10 points in Magic attribute.
 
What's the best level to grind early on? I would really like to up some of my stats, tempting to make a new character and start over but I don't want to lose 10 hours.
 
Jodou mentioned it already, but the 1-2 archstone is great--you start off behind the two blue knights and can grind on them and the 3 archers into your 30s. Maybe up to 40 if you have a lot of patience I guess.

If that gets boring you could do 4-1 or 2-1. If anything, it's good practice for melee against trickier enemies.
 
[quote name='gunm']Jodou mentioned it already, but the 1-2 archstone is great--you start off behind the two blue knights and can grind on them and the 3 archers into your 30s. Maybe up to 40 if you have a lot of patience I guess.

If that gets boring you could do 4-1 or 2-1. If anything, it's good practice for melee against trickier enemies.[/QUOTE]

1-3 you mean? The Tower Knight Archstone...I'll give it a try, see how many souls I can get. I'm level 28 right now so hopefully the drops aren't too bad.

EDIT: Looking at about 1200 between the two Blue Eye Knights and the 3 things after them. Not bad, about 3-4 minutes so If I do this for a half hour or so I could probably gain a couple levels.

EDIT 2: 581 souls for each Knight so that's 1162. 1.5 minutes between loading to the level and heading back to the Nexus with the souls (1162). Not bad at all :)
 
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Alright I have a couple of decisions to make between weapons:
Winged Spear +10 vs Sharp Winged Spear +5
and
Great Axe +10 vs Quality Great Axe +5

All for a character with a soul level of around 100 with points going into mostly dexterity with around 25-30 strength (and nearly none into will/magic). It's hard for me to tell what will be the most powerful at the end of the upgrade trees. Anybody have any advice?
 
Just had a person invade me for the first time. They ended up leaving about 5 minutes later, never saw them. Odd thing was the two Blue Eye Knights I've been grinding on for about 45 minutes now came back after I had killed them but they were glowing red and had twice the health...what was that? Not sure if I got any souls for killing them, just glad I COULD kill them.
 
Usually the weapons that have a high stat bonus (like S in dexterity) end up being better than +10 weapons. Sharp Uchigatana +5 is one of the better weapons in the game for pure physical damage.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']Just had a person invade me for the first time. They ended up leaving about 5 minutes later, never saw them. Odd thing was the two Blue Eye Knights I've been grinding on for about 45 minutes now came back after I had killed them but they were glowing red and had twice the health...what was that? Not sure if I got any souls for killing them, just glad I COULD kill them.[/QUOTE]

Was your world tendency towards black, sounds like you fought phantoms and they should have given a good number of souls/decent drops.
 
Yeah, my WT is rather dark, not black, but dark. If I keep going to that level will they continue to become phantoms after I kill them?
 
Sounds like you are on black WT. Normal bonuses for those knights and the archers is less than that. Hm, I should try playing online tonight before the event ends, lol.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']They don't become phantoms, they're already there.[/QUOTE]

So what were they? I went to 1-3, killed both BE Knights and then someone invaded my game. Never saw them but then these two BE Knights outlined in red came after me near where you spawn in 1-3.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']So what were they? I went to 1-3, killed both BE Knights and then someone invaded my game. Never saw them but then these two BE Knights outlined in red came after me near where you spawn in 1-3.[/QUOTE]
They were phantoms, but things don't become phantoms because you kill them, the phantoms are there from the very beginning.

And souls and drops are better in black WT.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']EDIT 2: 581 souls for each Knight so that's 1162. 1.5 minutes between loading to the level and heading back to the Nexus with the souls (1162). Not bad at all :)[/QUOTE]
You sound like me when I farm. . .

I tell you what, playing through the game with pure black WT is a pain. I'm used to just going commando, but everything is such a pain it really slows you down. The increase in souls is seriously not worth the trouble unless you're farming. The first time I got one-shot (we're talking 1500 HP here) by a black phantom mob, I was like 'wow, that's cheap'. It's not like I get a huge boost in damage to even it out either. :\
 
This game is pretty damn bad ass. I have 15 hours in it so far and I have beat 1-1, 1-2, and 2-1. The most recent thing I did was defeating Miralda and getting the Brushwood armor at the bottom of that tower where Miralda comes from.

It took me a while to kill Miralda, since I was severely under leveled for her. Also, it was a pain in the ass getting that armor at the bottom of the tower. The first time I tried to drop down I died. My blood stain had 30 thousand souls. I was able to grab my blood stain from one of the rafters, but I died for a second time trying to get to the bottom. On the third try, I was able to grab my blood stain and get to the bottom safely.

I was so damn scared that I was going to lose 30 thousand souls; thankfully I didn't. Also, Brushwood armor is pretty damn awesome; much better than the Mirdan armor that I started with.
 
^^ Hmmm... Maybe I should have done that. I avoided Miralda since it says in all the guides that that is the last black phantom to do and since I had so much trouble with Satsuki I figured she was even tougher and I should wait. And I'm level 60 or so :lol:.

I did take care of Rydell - piece of cake with arrows, a slight backing up as he runs halfheartedly towards me, then more arrows...

I also beat Maneater tonight just for the hell of it (I hadn't even played against a boss in like 20 hours of gameplay so I figured it was time).

Speaking of which...

[quote name='Jodou']/flex! :lol:


They're referring to a tactic where you intentionally get your health below 30% to stack damage bonuses to the point where every swing is deadly. Many people use it on the man-eater boss as to eliminate the first one quickly. Add black turpentine as needed.[/QUOTE]

Yes, yes. I know that. That is why I was saying it was hard for me to do because in order to activate the Clever Rat's ring you have to be less than 30% health and Satsuki can kill me with a glancing blow at that level ;). So while the increased damage was nice, it was much harder to stay alive for any length of time. I tried him again today and no dice... I'm not sure how I'll handle that. Maybe I'll upgrade an axe all the way (because the plain one I tried yesterday only did like 16 damage). As it is, my winged spear +6 only does about 22. Is he susceptible to magic attack? Maybe I can go with the moon winged spear as I got a pure moonlight stone from a crystal gecko today!

Also, I decided to go for the gecko nest in 2-2. Rage of God worked perfectly fine in there. I got all the ones at the bottom twice - lots of sharpstones and clearstones which I have yet to find a use for. Oh well... I guess I need the sharpstones to get base weapons up to the point where you can then turn them into unique weapons with the demons' souls so I guess that is good.

As for Maneater, I got destroyed by the double team the first few times I went in there as I hadn't read up on it at all. But rather than bother with the Clever Rat's ring there is a much easier way to get rid of one of them:
Just go right up to the fog without activating it and peg him with arrows. Then go in and you just have to fight one at that point. I just hung around the fire thing in the middle and hit him with a poison cloud which seemed to stay on him a long time, soul arrow, or got him with my winged spear when he came close (which wasn't too often - mostly he just flew around).

So I made moderate use of the black WT event weekend. We'll see what happens when we fire the game up Monday. I farmed a ton of spiderstones in 2-2 in order to get my bow upgraded all thw way which was nice since I had already beaten Scirvir and gotten that world to near pure white making farming very difficult. On world 4 I had already gotten it near black before the weekend started but this saved me wasting more stones of ephemeral eyes in order to find out I can't beat Satsuki just yet. But I figured I better take care of someone else at least so I did Rydell and am all done with the WT events in 3 now as well. And I guess the door in 1-1 will stay open soI can go in there and get the stuff even if it returns to neutral and not worry about Miralda just yet.
 
[quote name='Razzuel']This game is pretty damn bad ass. I have 15 hours in it so far and I have beat 1-1, 1-2, and 2-1. The most recent thing I did was defeating Miralda and getting the Brushwood armor at the bottom of that tower where Miralda comes from.

It took me a while to kill Miralda, since I was severely under leveled for her. Also, it was a pain in the ass getting that armor at the bottom of the tower. The first time I tried to drop down I died. My blood stain had 30 thousand souls. I was able to grab my blood stain from one of the rafters, but I died for a second time trying to get to the bottom. On the third try, I was able to grab my blood stain and get to the bottom safely.

I was so damn scared that I was going to lose 30 thousand souls; thankfully I didn't. Also, Brushwood armor is pretty damn awesome; much better than the Mirdan armor that I started with.[/QUOTE]

I'm about 10 hours in and that's where I'm at too, just beat the
spider
in 2-1. Wait, Miranda is where? in 2-1? Are you referring to the tower with the platforms that are on an elevator? I died at least 5 times trying to get onto one because I finally managed to walk onto one instead of my character just jumping off :p

Also, is evacuate necessary? Couldn't I just go back the way I came (outrun my enemies) instead of wasting 20,000 souls on that right now?
 
I'm about to get the game in soon and as a person who knows very little and hasn't been following it like crazy, I was wondering if you all had any very basic tips or recommendations for someone starting out?

Whether it's something I should know, something I should be aimin' for, or little helpful tips early on.

Any help would be very helpful, thanks.
 
[quote name='io']As for Maneater, I got destroyed by the double team the first few times I went in there as I hadn't read up on it at all. But rather than bother with the Clever Rat's ring there is a much easier way to get rid of one of them:
Just go right up to the fog without activating it and peg him with arrows. Then go in and you just have to fight one at that point. I just hung around the fire thing in the middle and hit him with a poison cloud which seemed to stay on him a long time, soul arrow, or got him with my winged spear when he came close (which wasn't too often - mostly he just flew around).
[/QUOTE]
You can also get one stuck on either end of the bridge if you use thief's ring. It will just get hung up on the fog and eventually stop trying to move. He'll be a good little boy and sit in his corner until you're ready to kill him. ;)
 
[quote name='TheHiei']I'm about to get the game in soon and as a person who knows very little and hasn't been following it like crazy, I was wondering if you all had any very basic tips or recommendations for someone starting out?

Whether it's something I should know, something I should be aimin' for, or little helpful tips early on.

Any help would be very helpful, thanks.[/QUOTE]

Ranged attacks are a godsend. So Royalty is a good class to pick. Try to pick 3 stats and focus on those early on, Vitality should definitely be one those. The more HP you have, the better. Put Luck at 8 and leave it there, any more into that and it's a waste. Other than that, ALWAYS keep your shield up and Soul Arrow is your friend. Do NOT rush at enemies (unless they are down or backs to you --with thief's ring equipped--). Around corners especially be careful.

Also, the messages on the ground that players leave, be wary of what they say. Treasure ahead? Probably not, especially if there's a cliff in front of you ;) Beware of enemy ambush, better heed this warning.

My mistake in 1-1 was that I kept taking different routes after the first tower which lead to me dying often because I didn't know what to expect (and low level). If you have a decent amount of souls (a couple 1000 early on is decent), go back to the Nexus (the way you came should be clear of any enemies so long as you killed everything) and cash those souls in for some stat points :)
 
I'm stuck on the bridge to the 1-4 boss in human form with no souls signs in sight. I'm soul level 64 and I've had no luck with the boss so was hoping to rally a few troops to no avail.

I'll hop on later today and see if anyone is around.

On another note, I managed to take out BP's in 2-2 and 3-1 as well as the primevil demon so it wasn't a complete waste.
 
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