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That's what I do - i have a MF set that I swap in for the Jailor and Butcher.

Don't seem to be tough enough for Act II unless you are supposed to die every minute to sand wasps and though leaping things.
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']That's what I do - i have a MF set that I swap in for the Jailor and Butcher.

Don't seem to be tough enough for Act II unless you are supposed to die every minute to sand wasps and though leaping things.[/QUOTE]
Ha, nope. That's how I feel about act 3 atm, so unless you know it's your gear it might be time to start looking at ways to improve your spec.


So out of sheer boredom I started putting together a spreadsheet that would allow you enter credentials on a piece of gear and rank it versus what you currently have equipped or known legendary/set items. The problem I'm running into is I'm terrible at math and coming up with static variables for EP (or expected potential) is proving impossible without just bullshitting it. Giving weight to stats like percentages is incredibly difficult because crit and crit damage feed off each other, so a piece of gear with both would need a separate statistical value. I'm not worried about scaling with what's already equipped, only comparing to like items (helm, neck, etc) so if anyone out there would like to crunch some numbers, we could feasibly produce a light-weight tool for excel users for gearing. Also, the set of values would need to be weighted twice: one for tank specs and the other for DPS specs. IAS is clearly more meatier for DPS as their life depends on it and values like block % would be 0 for them, obviously. Note: I've only done this so far for the Barbarian and for now I'd keep it that way as a proof of concept.

I've kept the point scale low (0.0-4.0) so far, with 0 being awful. Any elitist jerks out there? Bueller. . .
 
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Capped at 10 auctions right now... Any barb looking for a wep?

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I have a BUNCH of crap from Inferno I need to clear out, and I need gold to get my monk up to my standards.

If anyone is looking for something specific, PM me or lemme know. I'm pretty much already listing stuff at 70-80 of market value, so you'll probably get a decent deal from me.
 
[quote name='n4styn4t3']Sorry to sound like a total noob but can someone please explain what "farming" is to me?[/QUOTE]

Farming is running stuff for the intent of finding items to sell or equip yourself with.

Grinding is running stuff for the intent of leveling your character up in some way. However, it's also occasionally inferred as farming.
 
Fuuuuck. Just had my first ever death fighting Nightmare Diablo on his Terror Realm using a DH. Made a lot of mistakes and a bad skill set.

This would've been major if it was a Hardcore character but it still hurt my pride...
 
I'm almost through Nightmare. I havent been able to play as much as I'd like, so I'm still around lvl 44 somewhere. When do you start finding Jewlcrafting tomes? I wanna level up my guy some more, but I havent found a single tome yet.
 
[quote name='Waughoo']I'm almost through Nightmare. I havent been able to play as much as I'd like, so I'm still around lvl 44 somewhere. When do you start finding Jewlcrafting tomes? I wanna level up my guy some more, but I havent found a single tome yet.[/QUOTE]

Hell.
 
[quote name='glemtvapen']Fuuuuck. Just had my first ever death fighting Nightmare Diablo on his Terror Realm using a DH. Made a lot of mistakes and a bad skill set.

This would've been major if it was a Hardcore character but it still hurt my pride...[/QUOTE]

Every death sucks and hurts the pride. I have not been playing as much as I like and had my monk ass raped by a group of elites in Act 2 of Nightmare. See what I get for trying to take that damn scoundrel with me and changing my skills. :)

All deaths suck, period. Still, thinking about starting up a hardcore character, but yet I feel the pull to finish my run through nightmare to get to hell....I'd probably be more inclined to start a hardcore character if the first half of act 1 didn't suck so much.

Speaking of Act 1, WTF is up with the Butcher? Is this the reincarnation from the original Diablo? That guy was the first thing to really annoy me in the original.
 
[quote name='jmbreci']Every death sucks and hurts the pride.[/QUOTE]

Then in Inferno, you have no pride. You'll be alive for a while thinking "Woohoo, I'm doing great!" and then you meet a rare enemy that's Invulnerable Minion, Horde, Vortex, Illusionist of some monster type you really, really hate and you're just sitting there like "fuck" as you stare at the death screen where you didn't know what the hell was going on but only see 50 enemies standing on top of your dead corpse. And to top it off, he's right at the entrance of the new place you entered and can't survive long enough to drag him out of the path or kill him.


[quote name='jmbreci']Speaking of Act 1, WTF is up with the Butcher? Is this the reincarnation from the original Diablo? That guy was the first thing to really annoy me in the original.[/QUOTE]

No, "The Butcher" is just a specific class of demon. There are many Butchers, however I do not know if there is more than one at any specific one time or not. I don't remember the specifics anymore.
 
[quote name='Draekon']Then in Inferno, you have no pride. You'll be alive for a while thinking "Woohoo, I'm doing great!" and then you meet a rare enemy that's Invulnerable Minion, Horde, Vortex, Illusionist of some monster type you really, really hate and you're just sitting there like "fuck" as you stare at the death screen where you didn't know what the hell was going on but only see 50 enemies standing on top of your dead corpse. And to top it off, he's right at the entrance of the new place you entered and can't survive long enough to drag him out of the path or kill him.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I'll be expecting to die "a lot" in Inferno and Hell. But I set up a personal challenge to not die in Nightmare with my DH. I almost succeeded too and then I died to Diablo. :wall:

Playing Hell right now and you're not kidding, those Invulnerable Minions are bad news. First time I encountered them I just ran away b/c I thought the leader also have the Invulnerable status.
 
Decided to try to push through Act II Inferno even though i was getting owned by the first sand wasps - it's not so bad i guess, working with a 5 stack valor right now.
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']Decided to try to push through Act II Inferno even though i was getting owned by the first sand wasps - it's not so bad i guess, working with a 5 stack valor right now.[/QUOTE]

That's what I'm working on as well. Fighting a big pack of sand wasps with a DH feels pretty much exactly like playing a SHMUP.

Act II is kind of making me question my build though. I found that adding a bunch of life and resist all really made a difference in Act I, but when the little bats in Act II can still one-shot me, it kind of makes me want to go pure glass cannon. Still, I think I'm going to stick with this for now since against most enemies it does allow me to take one or two hits, which can make all the difference when trying to kite.
 
[quote name='glemtvapen']Anyone willing to sell me 4 Infernal Dyes for 30k?

Don't want to wait til Inferno to be able to buy one.[/QUOTE]

I can get you any dyes you need by reloading Act IV Inferno pretty easily.
 
anyone know a good place to find out the values of gear that'll sell on the AH.

Im on act II inferno and still have no idea what im doing in the game
 
You basically need to filter the AH by the three best stats on a piece of gear that you want, then sort by buyout price ascending (or similar DPS for weapons) to figure out what the item is worth.

There is no accurate site that is compiling detailed AH data right now.
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']Decided to try to push through Act II Inferno even though i was getting owned by the first sand wasps - it's not so bad i guess, working with a 5 stack valor right now.[/QUOTE]

Then my power goes out. Bah. Did find a legendary though, but nothing I would use....gotta check and see if worth anything now.
 
Well, looks like Act II def gets better gear. The legendary only got me 250K, but just sold some rare bracers for 1.2Mil and prob could have gotten more - should be able to get myself something nice now.
 
I don't understand how people are making millions of gold because the drops I get in act 2 are considerably worse at times than act 1. I find I can make 75k gold per butcher run in half the time it takes for a belial run and get rares I can sell for 30-50k easy. I've run act 2 probably 10 times now and zero good drops. Just seems to me if I had run butcher non-stop, I would come out ahead goldwise. I even swapped up my build and gear ever so slightly so that I'm not really dying in act 2 either. I think the real problem is farming just belial with a five stack means all your eggs are in one basket versus two bosses in act 1.

I guess it's just RNG fucking me over and it pisses me off feeling like each run was a waste. That and I'm trying to find a good string of ears for 2 mil to ease the farming, but nothing is popping up with 19% or better with Vit. :(
 
[quote name='PrinnyOtaku']You basically need to filter the AH by the three best stats on a piece of gear that you want, then sort by buyout price ascending (or similar DPS for weapons) to figure out what the item is worth.

There is no accurate site that is compiling detailed AH data right now.[/QUOTE]

yea i tried to, but searching for specific names of things don't allow stats to be entered.
im trying to sell these
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and have no idea what to ask
 
[quote name='Draekon']I can get you any dyes you need by reloading Act IV Inferno pretty easily.[/QUOTE]

OK. I'm pretty new to trading outside of AH. How are we supposed to do this?
 
[quote name='glemtvapen']OK. I'm pretty new to trading outside of AH. How are we supposed to do this?[/QUOTE]

Friend me, my tag is in the opening post. I'll just buy'em and trade'em to you when I see you on.
 
@shosh: The AH right now is a shithole for selling legendaries and set items. I got no advice on how to help you, except that you should list it so that the price will end up on the first few or last few pages. No one is looking at page 10 out of 20 of an item.

I lucked out and got my 30% String of Ears for 750k before the prices shot up. Act 2 drops absolute shit gear. You CAN find any legendary or set item in act 2, but act 3/4 is where all the good rares are at.

I do still have that Barb axe for sale, but it's on the AH currently. Once it expires I'll trade/sell it if anyone wants.

I also got lucky today and found this (also for sale):
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[quote name='PrinnyOtaku']@shosh: The AH right now is a shithole for selling legendaries and set items. I got no advice on how to help you, except that you should list it so that the price will end up on the first few or last few pages. No one is looking at page 10 out of 20 of an item.

I lucked out and got my 30% String of Ears for 750k before the prices shot up. Act 2 drops absolute shit gear. You CAN find any legendary or set item in act 2, but act 3/4 is where all the good rares are at.

I do still have that Barb axe for sale, but it's on the AH currently. Once it expires I'll trade/sell it if anyone wants.

I also got lucky today and found this (also for sale):
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That looks pretty nice ;)
 
Has anyone seriously farmed act 2 and got good drops? Did you end up skipping to act 3 instead? Maybe I just need a well-geared farm buddy because the ratio of drops I'm getting from act 1 to 2 is just awful. Butcher run I generally have to clear my bags at least twice from blues/rares. I'm lucky to even fill one bag from a belial run and all my rares are usually garbage weapons with 300 damage (which is a total WTF considering the 500 dps weapons I get in act 1). That and gold is hardly existent since I'm finishing one quest and the mobs are super stingy.

Hell, I'm even down to clear act 3 with someone if they're willing to carry me. :lol:
 
[quote name='PrinnyOtaku']
I also got lucky today and found this (also for sale):
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Pretty nice and better than what I have, however there's be no way for me to afford it since almost all my auctionable gear ends up going to friends for free so I don't have to solo anymore.
 
I beat act 2 inferno with my monk a couple of days ago, so I'm stuck farming for a bit to get geared enough to kill elites in act 3. Time to challenge the new brick wall.

[quote name='Jodou']Has anyone seriously farmed act 2 and got good drops? Did you end up skipping to act 3 instead? Maybe I just need a well-geared farm buddy because the ratio of drops I'm getting from act 1 to 2 is just awful. Butcher run I generally have to clear my bags at least twice from blues/rares. I'm lucky to even fill one bag from a belial run and all my rares are usually garbage weapons with 300 damage (which is a total WTF considering the 500 dps weapons I get in act 1). That and gold is hardly existent since I'm finishing one quest and the mobs are super stingy.

Hell, I'm even down to clear act 3 with someone if they're willing to carry me. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Comparing Warden/Butcher runs to Kulle/Belial runs, I feel like act 1 is better for a steady supply of gold while act 2 is better for a chance at higher quality gear at the cost of time, mainly because act 2 takes a lot longer to complete. I also get mostly 100-400 dps weapons in act 2, but I get the rare 600-800 dps 1h every now and then that I never saw while farming act 1.
 
[quote name='glemtvapen']Anyone else think that once the RMAH comes in all of the greatest gear would be located there?[/QUOTE]

It's a possibility. Thankfully, YOU can sell gear on it as well, so you can get the money to pay for the gear you need that way.
 
So yea, I think im hitting my brick wall in Hell. I'm on quest 8 in act 1 and i'm just getting torn up by blues & yellows. I had to leave the game to de-spawn the 2 yellow chargers that each had 2 minions as well and now i'm getting raped by 3 hulks that throw up shields and litter the area with arcane.

My drops have been crap throughout the whole game, the only good eq i've been getting is on the AH but money has been a big factor. I've got 8,476 HP 4,103 armor, and 3k damage.
 
There are no legendaries or set items that are of iLvl 63, so farming act 2 will give you access to all oranges/greens, and up to tier 17 rares.

Tier 18 rares only drop in act 3/4. It's up to you to decide what act is worth farming, but I'll say this right now. Everyone who is farming act 3 or 4 is building glass cannon and cannot survive more than 2 hits from any mob.

My monk can tank normal mobs relatively easily, but champion packs... it's not happening.


EDIT: If anyone is stuck anywhere or wants some free items that are around your level, PM me. I'm down to help ppl out.
 
Well, I went ahead and upgraded by Staff of Herding to Infernal Staff of Herding... Needless to say, it's not a very friendly place for a solo Wizard on Inferno difficulty. I choose to farm Siegebreaker in Act 3 because I can survive a couple hits and there's open areas. There however, enemies have a ton of health and there's next to no room for kiting. Not to mention the enemies are fast as hell. Although I kept getting Invulnerable Minion rare rolls and some not very friendly champ rolls when I went there.
 
[quote name='G33']Comparing Warden/Butcher runs to Kulle/Belial runs, I feel like act 1 is better for a steady supply of gold while act 2 is better for a chance at higher quality gear at the cost of time, mainly because act 2 takes a lot longer to complete. I also get mostly 100-400 dps weapons in act 2, but I get the rare 600-800 dps 1h every now and then that I never saw while farming act 1.[/QUOTE]I have seen 700 DPS weapons from act 1, but that's the upper limit. Act 2 is just too risky in terms of relying completely on RNG because there's almost no gold from it. I don't kill Kulle either because he's a waste of time having to kite the adds. Until I can comfortably farm act 2 with ease, I'll stick to the 75k score plus the occasional AR armor that will sell for 300k.
[quote name='PrinnyOtaku']Everyone who is farming act 3 or 4 is building glass cannon and cannot survive more than 2 hits from any mob.[/QUOTE]
Ah, so the game isn't balanced for progression then; it's meant to be impossible. Looks like I'll slowly build up my tanking set then since 2H won't be viable without the gear farmed from those acts. I'm assuming you're using the 'body' trick to solo siegebreaker?
 
curious how I could do in act 3(prob not too well), but not having luck getting past Belial - solo or in a pub.


Also, is there a way to not autojoin the general chat channels?
 
Question for you guys:

I went to look for the whimsey ingredients in Hell. I found everything except the gibberish gemstone and the staff of herding plans that izual drops.

Afterwards, I switched to Nightmare and the merchant was selling the plan so I purchased it got 1g and went to blacksmith. It says 200k gold to make the staff. Few questions:
1) Is the 200k to make staff to access NM whimsey or is it an "upgrade fee" for the Hell whimsey?
2) If the 200k staff is to make the NM staff does that mean that if I find the plans in Hell and take it to the blacksmith he will charge me 500k to make it? I thought it was 50k to make the staff if I purchased the plans in NM? And 200k if I upgrade from normal to NM.
3) If not, does anyone have 200k gold + 500k gold they can give me gratis so I can upgrade the staff from NM to Hell?
 
Staff of Herding (Allows you to open up the secret level in Normal difficulty)
->
Nightmarish Staff of Herding (Allows you to open up the secret level in Nightmare difficulty)
->
Hellish Staff of Herding (Allows you to open up the secret level in Hell difficulty)
->
Infernal Staff of Herding (Allows you to open up the secret level in Inferno difficulty)


And the "upgrades" require the previous one to be created. So it will cost you 1.85m total to build the staff and to upgrade it completely to Inferno. And nobody here is going to give you money for you to do that. Just progress like the rest of us.

[quote name='Pookymeister']curious how I could do in act 3(prob not too well), but not having luck getting past Belial - solo or in a pub.


Also, is there a way to not autojoin the general chat channels?[/QUOTE]

The inside areas are difficult, but the outside areas are pretty easy for a Wizard. Thankfully Siegebraker farming is pretty much all outside area.

And no, you have to leave it every time you start the game. They really need to start making these things opt-in options and my god is the gold spam terrible.


Belial for me solo was a little bit tricky. I used Archon partway through Phase 1 and into Phase 2. Once Archon was off in Phase 2, he was mostly dead (past half) and I just wore him down quickly and the extra spawning mobs (which weren't very many since I burned him down pretty fast) and hit phase 3. Phase 3 is pretty much cakewalk for a Wizard. I switched out Archon for Teleport (-30% Damage) and one of my passives for Illusionist. Then just throw down Venom Hydra and dance around his ground pounds.
 
[quote name='Draekon']Staff of Herding (Allows you to open up the secret level in Normal difficulty)
->
Nightmarish Staff of Herding (Allows you to open up the secret level in Nightmare difficulty)
->
Hellish Staff of Herding (Allows you to open up the secret level in Hell difficulty)
->
Infernal Staff of Herding (Allows you to open up the secret level in Inferno difficulty)


And the "upgrades" require the previous one to be created. So it will cost you 1.85m total to build the staff and to upgrade it completely to Inferno. And nobody here is going to give you money for you to do that. Just progress like the rest of us.



The inside areas are difficult, but the outside areas are pretty easy for a Wizard. Thankfully Siegebraker farming is pretty much all outside area.

And no, you have to leave it every time you start the game. They really need to start making these things opt-in options and my god is the gold spam terrible.


Belial for me solo was a little bit tricky. I used Archon partway through Phase 1 and into Phase 2. Once Archon was off in Phase 2, he was mostly dead (past half) and I just wore him down quickly and the extra spawning mobs (which weren't very many since I burned him down pretty fast) and hit phase 3. Phase 3 is pretty much cakewalk for a Wizard. I switched out Archon for Teleport (-30% Damage) and one of my passives for Illusionist. Then just throw down Venom Hydra and dance around his ground pounds.[/QUOTE]
i have a question about the staff.

I got the plans defeating Izual (sic?) on hell mode. do i get the staff to open hell wimsyland? and do the ingredients matter which mode you got them in? or does the mode in which you get everything (including staff plans) not matter.
 
[quote name='shosh']i have a question about the staff.

I got the plans defeating Izual (sic?) on hell mode. do i get the staff to open hell wimsyland? and do the ingredients matter which mode you got them in? or does the mode in which you get everything (including staff plans) not matter.[/QUOTE]

In all difficulties Izual will drop the plans to the "Staff of Herding". It's the normal difficulty staff.
 
OK finally got a guest pass (thank you crystal afterlife), so is anyone playing that is a low level/starting a new character? I think I want a summoner, would that be the witch doctor?
 
[quote name='slowdive21']OK finally got a guest pass (thank you crystal afterlife), so is anyone playing that is a low level/starting a new character? I think I want a summoner, would that be the witch doctor?[/QUOTE]

you can only play with other guest passers (or starter editioners)
the unwashed are kept from us normies
 
[quote name='shosh']i have a question about the staff.

I got the plans defeating Izual (sic?) on hell mode. do i get the staff to open hell wimsyland? and do the ingredients matter which mode you got them in? or does the mode in which you get everything (including staff plans) not matter.[/QUOTE]
No. The plans Izual drops is for the normal Staff of Herding. To get the Hellish Staff of Herding you need to buy the Hellish Staff of Herding plans from the merchant(the one near the followers in the south east corner of town) in Act IV in Hell difficulty. The plans are only 1g for each difficulty and like Draekon said you need the previous staffs before you can get the latter ones so you need the Staff of Herding first then upgrade that to Nightmarish Staff of Herding then upgrade that to Hellish Staff of herding, etc.

And no it doesn't matter what difficulty you get the items on to make the Staff of Herding.
 
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