EB Games clerk murdered, no one notices for hours

[quote name='Blackout542']How is it any different from someone getting killed at KFC or Burger King?[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure there's always more than 1 person at any of these establishments at any given time.
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']They don't give you the hours to do that. Especially right after the Christmas season. Right now, other then the manager and assistant manager, everyone is working like 8 hours a week. Which means they open the store and are alone until about 2:30. There's usually no more than two people working at a time, and when you have to deal with customers you just don't have time to clean the store. We can't even stay late to do it because they don't want to pay us.
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Yeah, I know that. I started to work there when they started to cut hours. Then they would just keep doing it more and more. Hell I would only work like 10 hours a week at my prime. They really just don't give a shit. No other company that I've seen tries to cut costs in such a way they completely alienates their employees like GS does.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Companies are out to make money, but they SHOULD have to do so in manor with some kind of ethics. When they dont it SHOULD be our job as Americans to complain about it, and in an ideal system actually take steps to fix things. So how bout instead of bitching about us you get annoyed with the right thing. Grow up, stop being lazy and realize things are not perfect, need to be fixed and stop having the childish attitude of "o well there are evil people in the world". Thats the kind of attitude that just allows evil people to get away with this kind of shit.[/quote]

ok and what about gamestop's side of this is unethical? wow they only have 1 person open up the store. meanwhile from 10-12 they are lucky to sell 2-3 games at retail value. which they make about 5$ each on. which is just enough to pay the 1 person that is working the store at the time. if two people are working they would be losing money.

there is nothing to be fixed here. you tell me to grow up, realize things are perfect and stop having a childish attitute meanwhile i am just being real. this is how things are. murders happen. then you say my attitude is what allows people to do this kind of shit. if everyone thought like you thought. guess what. there would still be murders and robberies every minute of every day.
 
So, the bottom line is that GS killed her? Because all I see is bitching that points in that direction. The killer is still out there, and I guess he's excempt from punishment because GS should have had more people on.
 
[quote name='nativetongue88']ok and what about gamestop's side of this is unethical? wow they only have 1 person open up the store. meanwhile from 10-12 they are lucky to sell 2-3 games at retail value. which they make about 5$ each on. which is just enough to pay the 1 person that is working the store at the time. if two people are working they would be losing money.

there is nothing to be fixed here. you tell me to grow up, realize things are perfect and stop having a childish attitute meanwhile i am just being real. this is how things are. murders happen. then you say my attitude is what allows people to do this kind of shit. if everyone thought like you thought. guess what. there would still be murders and robberies every minute of every day.[/QUOTE]

If your only selling 3 games at $5 each during that time then dont fucking open the store. Common sense. Again my fiancees store often only pulls in $700 a day and thats not including the cash they put out for what they purhcase from the costumers yet they run on a profit and always have 2 or 3 people working at higher wages then gamestop pays. So screw this stupid idea that gamestop cant afford to have two people working. They are a billion dollar company at this point probally and if not still worth millions with a store on every corner so Id ont want to hear that shit.

Never4Ever like I told him, grow up, stop putting words in peoples mouths. No one said that the guy that killed her isnt to blame. But that doesnt mean gamestop doesnt need to step up. If someone sells a gun illegally which is then used in a murder the person who sold the gun as well as the person who pulled the trigger are held legally responsible in our system. In this case the work enviroment that provided an unsafe working situation that allowed this to happan should ALSO be held responsible with the murderer himself.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']

Never4Ever like I told him, grow up, stop putting words in peoples mouths. No one said that the guy that killed her isnt to blame. But that doesnt mean gamestop doesnt need to step up. If someone sells a gun illegally which is then used in a murder the person who sold the gun as well as the person who pulled the trigger are held legally responsible in our system. In this case the work enviroment that provided an unsafe working situation that allowed this to happan should ALSO be held responsible with the murderer himself.[/QUOTE]

Read my post before you decide to retort, or do not retort at all.

I said the bitching points speaks for itself, which it does. Look over the thread, all I see is the same "evil coporation with its evil coporate idea of making money kills this woman" bitching. The cold hard truth is that GS had nothing to do with this, at all. That point isn't even arguable. Someone killed that woman and that person alone is responsible. There is no arguement, there is no retort, there's just the sad fact.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']Read my post before you decide to retort, or do not retort at all.

I said the bitching points speaks for itself, which it does. Look over the thread, all I see is the same "evil coporation with its evil coporate idea of making money kills this woman" bitching. The cold hard truth is that GS had nothing to do with this, at all. That point isn't even arguable. Someone killed that woman and that person alone is responsible. There is no arguement, there is no retort, there's just the sad fact.[/QUOTE]

Yes if your stupid enough to buy into the idea tht nothing could have prevented this. The rest of us have brains and know places with security and multiple employees dont have as many murders or even thefts for that matter. Gamestop keeps shit behind the counter to prevent theft, maybe they should just buy into your shit happans idea and keep games in the boxes and trust the consumer *rolls eyes*
 
Just a short update for those who care. Gamestop Inc. is offering $50,000 for an anonymous tip that will lead to a conviction, plus $5,000 from CrimeStoppers. A list of items taken from store:

* 2 Sony PlayStation 3 (60 gig) consoles
* 1 X-Box 360 console
* Need for Speed: Carbon OLC
* Call of Duty 3
* Fight Night Round 3 OLC
* NBA 07
* Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2007 OLC
* Madden NFL 2007 OLC
* Genji: Days of the Blade
* Tony Hawk's Project 8
* Marvel Ultimate Alliance
* Full Auto 2 OLC
* Blazing Angels OLC
* NBA 2K7
* Mobile Suit Gundam Crossfire
* Ridge Racer 7
* Reistance: Fall of Man
* NHL 2K7

Wonder what the guy is going through now that the bounty on his head is 20 times worth than what he took. Hope they find the fucker.
 
[quote name='SolidSnakeX99']Just a short update for those who care. Gamestop Inc. is offering $50,000 for an anonymous tip that will lead to a conviction, plus $5,000 from CrimeStoppers. A list of items taken from store:[/QUOTE]

I certainly think this is a good move on GS part, though some people will bemoan that it's too little, too late. At any rate, I'd just like to point out that "$50,000 reward" and "anonymous tip" aren't exactly compatible concepts.

I hope they do find the person that did this. Contrary to my thoughts earlier, the list of stuff really seems to suggest that this person planned exactly what they wanted to do, which is steal items for resale on eBay.
 
I can't believe the murder was just to rob the place. I was expecting (hoping?) that it was an ex-boyfriend or something and that the murder was personal (since most of them are). God I hope they catch this douche. Couldn't someone run a check on ebay users who have listed/sold these items in the last 2 weeks or something?
 
damn, that list of stuff is definitely not worth someone's life. What the hell was going on in the head of the person that committed this crime. Especially since he suffocated her which is pretty gruesome and personal way to kill someone. It's a damn shame this sort of stuff happens in the world.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I can't believe the murder was just to rob the place. I was expecting (hoping?) that it was an ex-boyfriend or something and that the murder was personal (since most of them are). God I hope they catch this douche. Couldn't someone run a check on ebay users who have listed/sold these items in the last 2 weeks or something?[/QUOTE]

They could work backwards - of the stock still in store, what are the missing serial numbers on those three systems? If one of them is registered online, contact the person using it to find out where/how it was purchased.

It ain't CSI, but then, the real world ain't that way anyhow. The only way this wouldn't work is if (1) those three systems never went online and/or (2) GS can't identify the serial #s of the stolen consoles. I really don't think either of those scenarios is too likely. This ought to be pretty easy, in reality.
 
PLEASE update us once something happens in this case, I really want to see this sick maniac behind bars, well, actually I want to see him with corkscrews in his fucking temple and eyes.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']The reason why I say GS should get a lot of the blame is because, like I said, with high-priced goods, of course there's gonna be more likelihood of getting robbed. Without security, that's putting a single clerk who is opening the store all by her lonesome at great risk in one of the cities with the highest murder rates in the country.
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48th?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
 
Just like the guy in New York that died while on the subway in the morning and no one figured out he was dead till night time
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']I'm sure rape is in there somewhere as well. Poor Girl.[/quote]

The only reason I'm quoting Mookyjooky is because that is one of the greatest pics I have ever seen! ROFL!!! But too bad for that girl. That's why banks always do "dual control" for everything. Not only to make sure no one steals, but to keep safe.
 
At 18, I was a keyholder, opening the store alone, closing the store alone, and being there for hours before any coworkers came by.
 
I made it through the first 4 pages of this sad story and wasn't going to flame the I hate GS fire. But I enjoyed the argument so I decided to chime in. Here's a list of who's at fault and why.
1. Murderer=Criminal=Felony
2. Accomplices=Criminal=probably a felony for murder
3. GameStop=Civil=Negligence + OSHA

First and most importantly, I feel it is in poor taste to use this woman's murder as another reason to further your personal crusade against GS. You hate GS for whatever reasons and that's you own issue but THIS CRIME was committed by the murderer and GameStop will be have to fight CIVIL negligence. And if you dislike a company's practices and policies, you shop somewhere else and voice your opinion with what matters most to a business: Money. I disagree with a lot of what Walmart stands for so I shop elsewhere and choose to spend more but they still have a right to make money from people who don’t feel as strongly as I do. I rarely frequent a GS as I have no need for them unless there’s a great deal and those are few and far between but I understand why some people shop there. The people who do not know a lot about videogames get what they consider better service there than at any of the Big Box retailers.

Now, like it or not a company’s only responsibility is to its shareholders. Social responsibility is a secondary thought for most companies and each struggles to value it and thus each values it differently. While it makes sense to have a multiple people in a high value target, it also makes sense to not have more employees on staff than you can afford. This is why during the slowest months (for retail, Jan-Mar and into April at times) it makes sense to not have a ton of labor costs and cut hours and people. Hello, negative social responsibility. But how many people would run a business that operates in the negative? Would you employ 3 people and lose $1,000 or employ 2 people and make $500? Would you run a store that wasn’t open whenever any customer wants to purchase a product and lose that sale to a competitor? Would you pay for security if it meant never making a profit? Every company is in business to make money, even non-profit organizations have to make money. The only problem I would have is if many of the executives chose to cut jobs or security to fatten their own wallets or if someone had some sort of prior knowledge and failed to report it.

The basic argument I keep seeing is that every store that uses a camera never gets robbed nor does any store that maintains multiple staff members at all times. While cameras and additional personnel may have been the answer to this problem, neither are an absolute deterrent. Cameras are used after the fact and would have helped catch the killer but may have not stopped this crime. If there were 2 people, a person could have subdued the stronger person first and you're back to just this woman. Then we'd say there should have been 3 people. If this person had enough desire to commit the crime they would have found a way to commit the crime regardless of whatever counter measures were in place. There is no absolute deterrent in a free society without removing the freedoms that make it a free society. Hello, ankle bracelet.

In my opinion, the missing merchandise makes it look like a smash and grab gone awry but murder and robbery are rarely connected so I still have my doubts about the real motive.

Overall, for me this is an anomaly which warrants me expressing my condolences for the loss this family has suffered and my outrage over what this person did and nothing more. This does not warrant me stating that society is crumbling or the gaming industry is becoming as vile and ruthless as the illegal drug industry or that any one thing could have prevented this. This is an isolated incident that claimed a young woman’s life and that is what is truly important.
 
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