Gamestop - Bioshock Limited Edition pre-order (lots of neato stuff)

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I know this isnt technically a deal per se but I thought this Limited Edition pre-order looked cool and it comes with lots of little trinkets:

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=200317

Price = $69.99

What you get:

The GameStop Exclusive Bioshock Limited Edition includes:

Bioshock the game
Bioshock "Big Daddy" Figurine
Soundtrack CD featuring music of BioShock plus remixes of period music
Behind the scenes DVD

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[quote name='RockLobster']That's such a load of horse-sh*t!

I manage a GameStop and we don't do that, nor do any of the EB's or other GameStop's in my area. The only game I open when we get them, is ONE singular copy of the new releases I get so I can put them up on the various walls, the rest are kept behind my counter, still sealed, and waiting to be purchased.[/quote]
It varies by store and district. I went into get a new copy of a new release game at EB and was handed a gutted copy (it was for some obscure RPG that I can't remember that they only recieved 5 or so copies of, every one they gutted, all 5 gutted boxes on the floor shelf), when I asked for a sealed copy I was told (by the manager who I was friends with and talked with all the time) that they are now gutting every new game that is not a preorder. This was a couple years ago and was the reason I stopped buying new games at that EB. This was just this one particular store and one particular manager that decided to do this, the EB/Gamestop down the road wasn't practicing this.

So, yeah it happens.
 
[quote name='Corvin']Count me as another that has been given an open/gutted copy as new. What a joke. Gave it back and went somewhere else. Even had to run through it with the moronic employee about how it isn't new if it's open. It isn't like Target, WM, TRU, and a half dozen other stores don't have a zillion copies release week.

fuck em.[/quote] Uhmm, if the game was never played before, and is in perfect condition then it is new. Being opened doesn't make the game any worse or anything. Maybe I'm lucky though because the GS's near me don't do that.
 
[quote name='robin2099']Uhmm, if the game was never played before, and is in perfect condition then it is new. Being opened doesn't make the game any worse or anything. Maybe I'm lucky though because the GS's near me don't do that.[/QUOTE]

Well that's a matter of opinion. For me if it's been opened at all, if that MS security sticker has been tampered with at all, it is used. I don't need to accept used merchandise as new, unless I am getting a (worthwhile) discount. Period.
 
[quote name='porieux']Well that's a matter of opinion. For me if it's been opened at all, if that MS security sticker has been tampered with at all, it is used. I don't need to accept used merchandise as new, unless I am getting a (worthwhile) discount. Period.[/QUOTE]

How do you know that? How do you know the employees didn't "rent" it for a night? What about giving it a spin in store? Have you seen the paper sleeves they keep those "new" discs in? They get scratched all to hell in those.

That's great if you want to put up with it, but with a Wal-Mart, Target, CC, or BB nearby there's no reason I should put up with that practice. If I'm paying $60 for a game I'm paying for everything to be brand spankin new, including the shrink wrap.
 
[quote name='imacgod']Pre-ordered mine yesterday.

Add for anybody with a CAGWiki account (I can't register for whatever reason):

DS Games (as of 7/28/07):
- Star Fox Command - $7.00
- Contact - $8.00[/QUOTE]

I updated it for you.

[quote name='imacgod']
Why can't EB/Gamestop acknowledge when they sell a gutted copy that they're selling a display/demo copy to the customer? My sister got the 10 or 20% off thing for buying a slightly wrinkled, new and sealed copy of Karaoke Revolution: American Idol, but when she goes to buy a gutted copy of Cooking Mama, they don't discount it?[/QUOTE]

Good point. They should give a heavy discount for a preopened game. Might make them think twice about ripping them all open.

[quote name='porieux']Well that's a matter of opinion. For me if it's been opened at all, if that MS security sticker has been tampered with at all, it is used. I don't need to accept used merchandise as new, unless I am getting a (worthwhile) discount. Period.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree. I'm sick of Gamestop doing this! Half their "new" games at the stores near me are used, as they only have one copy.

I tried asking for the price on Tomb Raider: Legend (360), and the guy first goes on and on about the used version (even though I just told him I don't want it), then finally tells me the new price (which is probably actually used too). Turns out both prices are more than Toy's R Us charges for a real new copy.

By the way, nice find on the PC version! Nice to see that's available too. I just can't decide which to get.
 
By the way, nice find on the PC version! Nice to see that's available too. I just can't decide which to get.
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PC version, it isint gimped, and watered down like the 360 version is. And its 10 dollars cheaper.
 
[quote name='InuFaye']PC version, it isint gimped, and watered down like the 360 version is. And its 10 dollars cheaper.[/quote]

That's ok. I'm willing to pay $10 extra to sit comfortably on my couch with a wireless controller and enjoy Bioshock on my hdtv.
 
[quote name='InuFaye']PC version, it isint gimped, and watered down like the 360 version is. And its 10 dollars cheaper.[/quote]And how is the 360 version gimped and watered-down, exactly? :whistle2:s
 
[quote name='InuFaye']PC version, it isint gimped, and watered down like the 360 version is. And its 10 dollars cheaper.[/QUOTE]

The graphics are worse, obviously, but is there a difference in terms of gameplay or content? Maybe this'll finally help me decide :D
 
[quote name='Maklershed']That's ok. I'm willing to pay $10 extra to sit comfortably on my couch with a wireless controller and enjoy Bioshock on my hdtv.[/QUOTE]
I'm with you on that. Plus for me to play this on my PC I would have to spend $100.00+ on a new graphics card. Did I also mention the achievments? :D
 
Ugh, :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: "achievements". I wish you could turn those off on the 360.

For what it's worth PC games can include those now too :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

EDIT: Okay, my real issue with "achievements" is just that people actually compare them, and even spend money on crappy games just to get more. I had nothing against them at first, but I can't stand it when people take them seriously.
 
I'm considering buying the LE.. But after reading through this thread, I'm going to be careful if I buy it.
 
Crap!!! :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

The PC version has "activation" :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

I'm so sick of this crap. Well, 360 it is, or else wait for a PS3 version.

Microsoft had better release a quieter 360, or I am going to be very cross with them :cool:
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']Whats activation mean Wolfpup?[/QUOTE]

For this game, basically, you have to register it online the first time you play it to activate it. After that you can play without being online or communicating with them. It's to thwart piracy early on.

What does the internet activation entail? Why do you have it?
It's an anti-piracy measure that we unfortunately have to implement to curb illegal game distribution as best we can. It's a one time check and then you're done.
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[quote name='coltcannon']http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/pcblowout.html

"How does the DX10 version compare to the 360 graphics? And DX9?
The 360 and DX9 graphics are roughly equivalent. The DX10 graphics add a few additional features and image quality enhancements on top of this."

Def gimped for 360 :roll:[/quote]

doesnt matter if you dont have a PC powerful enough to play with DX10 anyways.

i have the 360 one preordered already. awaiting my Big Daddy figurine :D
 
[quote name='Reikon']For this game, basically, you have to register it online the first time you play it to activate it. After that you can play without being online or communicating with them. It's to thwart piracy early on.[/QUOTE]

Problem with it, and all online authentication schemes (including the console's online stores) is once the service is turned off-and it will be-you can't use the game anymore. (Can't install it anymore at any rate, which is essentially the same thing.)

It's why I haven't bought Half-Life 2 yet. I would have bought it almost three years ago when it launched, if not for Steam. Same type of reason I won't buy virtual console games or Live Arcade games.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']Problem with it, and all online authentication schemes (including the console's online stores) is once the service is turned off-and it will be-you can't use the game anymore. (Can't install it anymore at any rate, which is essentially the same thing.)

It's why I haven't bought Half-Life 2 yet. I would have bought it almost three years ago when it launched, if not for Steam. Same type of reason I won't buy virtual console games or Live Arcade games.[/quote]
It is only a one time check.

What does the internet activation entail? Why do you have it?
It's an anti-piracy measure that we unfortunately have to implement to curb illegal game distribution as best we can. It's a one time check and then you're done.

Can you play the game if you have to reinstall windows after you have installed it once?
Yes, this is possible.
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[quote name='Wolfpup']
EDIT: Okay, my real issue with "achievements" is just that people actually compare them, and even spend money on crappy games just to get more. I had nothing against them at first, but I can't stand it when people take them seriously.[/QUOTE]

why do you give a shit what other people do? get a life
 
[quote name='Kendro']It is only a one time check.[/QUOTE]

It's not a one time check. It happens each time you reinstall the game.

If you go over whatever their magical quota is, or they shut down the activation server (which they will), or you don't have an internet connection handy, you're screwed.
 
[quote name='coltcannon']http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/pcblowout.html

"How does the DX10 version compare to the 360 graphics? And DX9?
The 360 and DX9 graphics are roughly equivalent. The DX10 graphics add a few additional features and image quality enhancements on top of this."

Def gimped for 360 :roll:[/quote]I wouldn't call that gimped. Some small changes in eye candy aren't going to make me want to buy the game twice at launch pricing. If it's down to $20 when I have a better DX10-capable PC, then I'll think about buying it again to see the differences. For now, it's immaterial to me.

Most games with DX9/DX10 code paths aren't going to make any huge differences at this stage of the game.
 
[quote name='Corvin']How do you know that? How do you know the employees didn't "rent" it for a night? What about giving it a spin in store? Have you seen the paper sleeves they keep those "new" discs in? They get scratched all to hell in those.

That's great if you want to put up with it, but with a Wal-Mart, Target, CC, or BB nearby there's no reason I should put up with that practice. If I'm paying $60 for a game I'm paying for everything to be brand spankin new, including the shrink wrap.[/QUOTE]


You must have quoted the wrong post because I fully agree with you :applause:
 
I consider the ability to play a game in my home theater, with widescreen plasma and full on surround sound, wirelessly from my couch, to be a big upgrade over having to sit hunched over a crappy PC where I already spend way too much time (ironically I do prefer mouse and keyboard controls for FPS..but not enough to forego the other aspects)
 
[quote name='porieux']I consider the ability to play a game in my home theater, with widescreen plasma and full on surround sound, wirelessly from my couch, to be a big upgrade over having to sit hunched over a crappy PC where I already spend way too much time (ironically I do prefer mouse and keyboard controls for FPS..but not enough to forego the other aspects)[/QUOTE]

*shrug* I find the PC versions more immersive since it's more in your face. I also prefer headphones over speakers.
 
Ive also read lots of places that the AI has been gimped down, compared to the PC version.

Keyboard and mouse is the superior method of control, and for the people saying they want to play it on their Hdtv's guess what, PC montiors run that high a resoultion also.

SO PC>360.
PC
Slight Edge in Graphics.
Better AI
Faster Controls
10 dollars cheaper.

360
Achivements.
 
I actually have a PC hooked up to my home theater, but I'd still rather use the 360 in that context.
 
[quote name='InuFaye']Ive also read lots of places that the AI has been gimped down, compared to the PC version.

Keyboard and mouse is the superior method of control, and for the people saying they want to play it on their Hdtv's guess what, PC montiors run that high a resoultion also.

SO PC>360.
PC
Slight Edge in Graphics.
Better AI
Faster Controls
10 dollars cheaper.

360
Achivements.[/QUOTE]

"Keyboard and Mouse is the superior method of control"
That's one man's opinion right there. I myself prefer controller over Key and Mouse.

Also would I rather play on a Small PC screen when I can play on big HDTV? I don't think so :D
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']"Keyboard and Mouse is the superior method of control"
That's one man's opinion right there. I myself prefer controller over Key and Mouse.

Also would I rather play on a Small PC screen when I can play on big HDTV? I don't think so :D[/quote]

It is the superior method of control, with a keyboard and mouse you arent limited as much, like you are with a controller. The keyboard and mouse are the technically superior form of control for FPS, faster reactions, higher senstitivity, and higher responce time all contribute to the reasons why FPS on pc are superior then FPS on consoles.

BIOSHOCK will look and control better on a PC. Those are the hardfacts.

I think 360 fanboys are looking for reasons to justify their 10 dollars extra, give me a real reason besides "teh achivements"
 
[quote name='InuFaye']I think 360 fanboys are looking for reasons to justify their 10 dollars extra, give me a real reason besides "teh achivements"[/quote]
Many console gamers don't have a PC that can run BioShock as well as their Xbox 360. That's pretty much the only reason I'm getting it for 360. I'd rather have it run in 720p with AA than 1024 resolution, medium-low details, no AA, and no AF on my 6800GT.

Also the AI might have been toned down a bit, but only at the expense of the analog controller. As you said, mouse and keyboard are much more superior in precision so playing that version with a joystick would be unfair.
 
[quote name='Kendro']Many console gamers don't have a PC that can run BioShock as well as their Xbox 360. That's pretty much the only reason I'm getting it for 360. I'd rather have it run in 720p with AA than 1024 resolution, medium-low details, no AA, and no AF on my 6800GT.

Also the AI might have been toned down a bit, but only at the expense of the analog controller. As you said, mouse and keyboard are much more superior in precision so playing that version with a joystick would be too difficult.[/quote]

I can understand people that dont have a PC that is beefy enough to run BIOSHOCK well to buy it on the 360.

For the people who have a choice with the two versions, I cannot see why anyone would chose the 360.
 
if the figurine is actually bigger than a stick of gum, then its worth it IMO, figures themselves cost $16+ ( nice ones at least), the rest of the stuff is just gravy :D..yummy brown water
 
[quote name='InuFaye']I can understand people that dont have a PC that is beefy enough to run BIOSHOCK well to buy it on the 360.

For the people who have a choice with the two versions, I cannot see why anyone would chose the 360.[/quote]

Achievements baby! :cool:
 
[quote name='InuFaye']I think 360 fanboys are looking for reasons to justify their 10 dollars extra, give me a real reason besides "teh achivements"[/QUOTE]
The forced online authentication to install the game is a pretty big reason to avoid buying the PC version for me. I really don't trust 2K Games to keep those servers up indefinitely, and the last thing I'd want to do is try play the game a few years down the road only to find that my $50 disc is now a coaster. Especially considering what happened to a game like System Shock 2, the official website for it wasn't even up anymore a year after the game is out. Plus, while the Xbox 360 version does cost $10 more, the possibility of online authentication blocking the ability to resell it makes that cost much easier to swallow (not that I'd ever see myself selling the game, but I can definitely see some people buying it and not getting what they were expecting).

Also, the "better" controls with a keyboard and mouse is debatable, because more accurate =/= more fun. Sometimes it's nice to sit back and relax with a controller instead of having to hunch over a desk. Using a mouse may be more accurate, but which control system you enjoy more is entirely a matter of preference. Although since the PC version will presumably have Xbox 360 controller support, debate about which method of control is better is rather moot anyway.

Although you do raise an interesting question: if the Wii controller eventually reaches the point where it's superior to using a keyboard and mouse for FPS games, would PC gamers bragging about having more accuracy from a mouse all move over to the Wii?
 
70% of all primarily PC gamers are dicks, this coming from a PC gamer.
And the authentication is irritating, but at least it doesn't have to phone home constantly like Steam. And even if the authentication server is shut down at some point, I'm sure there'll be a pirated/cracked version by then to play.

Also, the figure is around 6 inches supposedly. Here are some big pictures of it. Looks like you can't pose it at all but hell, that's pretty cool looking.
http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/finalbdfigure.html
Think I might preorder a PC LE sometime soon. Already got burnt when I went to Gamestop on Oblivion's release day to pick up an LE and found them out of stock. Apparently the bastards order enough for preorders then about 5 for the store. Don't really do business with them at all any more if I can help it but hell, BIG DADDY FIGURE AND NOBODY ELSE HAS A PREORDER BONUS!
 
Im not to worried about online authentiaction, someone will come out with a crack for it if the servers go down.

You arent always hunched over a desk when you play PC games and if you are uncomfortable then something is wrong.

But you cant doubt the facts that the PC is the technically superior version.
 
[quote name='InuFaye']Im not to worried about online authentiaction, someone will come out with a crack for it if the servers go down.

You arent always hunched over a desk when you play PC games and if you are uncomfortable then something is wrong.

But you cant doubt the facts that the PC is the technically superior version.[/quote]

Technically probably ... more fun/comfortable/immersive, NO.
 
Wow. This thread is all over the map.

page 1: actual discussion about the pre-order / SE talk
page 2-3: dissolves into the Gamestop sucks debate
page 4-5: PC vs. 360 debate and which is superior

So essentially pages 2-5 could be chopped off and not be missed. lol Only page 1 pertains to the actual deal and discussion at hand.
 
[quote name='Corvin']Wow. This thread is all over the map.

page 1: actual discussion about the pre-order / SE talk
page 2-3: dissolves into the Gamestop sucks debate
page 4-5: PC vs. 360 debate and which is superior

So essentially pages 2-5 could be chopped off and not be missed. lol Only page 1 pertains to the actual deal and discussion at hand.[/quote]

This thread reflects my personality nicely .. only slightly informative and very scatterbrained and unfocused. :lol:
 
[quote name='anderton']I think I don't own a PC. I think I'll be purchasing the 360 version.[/QUOTE]

How did you post this?
 
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