[quote name='propeller_head']pictures dont lie!
also like i said, fanboys clamored for it after it came out. barely any came out in nov. they picked up in dec. now the fanboy market is satiated. THATS WHY THEY'RE SITTING ON SHELVES. so using numbers from when they were still pumping out just enough to wane the fanboy demand is misleading.[/quote]
Actually, if you care to examine the sales numbers icruise posted, you'd see that they sold just around 185,000 PS3 units in Japan in November, and since the sales figures at the end of December were just around 385,000 for the year, that's not exactly "picking up," as you said. But, again, forgive me for providing numbers. I'm just a fanboy with data. I forgot you have the power of *KOTAKU*.
watch, you will only see sales continue to fall until they're 1/2 to 2/3 what the 360 is in the US. in japan they'll hit about 1/2 of what they were in dec at best and stay that way until june.
Sales fall after christmas? Well, slap my ass and call me silly, but you're a regular god-damn Nostradamus, aren't you?
why june? because in June M$ moves to their 65nm fab and the 360 drops by $100 making it 1/2 the price of the P$3. what happens then? any1 chosing between the 2 goes for the 360; much more titles 1/2 the price, same game quality.
what will sony do? drop their price $100 2 months later after their sales tank.
WATCH! remember what i said. superglue it to the back of your brain. i want the little voice in your head that told you im right but that you pushed aside to live in fanboy world; to gloat, gloat and drive you crazy!!
MuuHAHahahHAhA! :lol:
Here's where things get interesting. Remember, of course, that *I'm* the one being accused of being a fanboy here, because I dare defend the indefensible PS3, a product only a fool would own (according to objective and detailed analysis taken from *KOTAKU*, right?).
The *ONLY* fact you're playing with above is Microsoft's switch from the current chip to a 65nm one, and that a release is forthcoming. *EVERYTHING* else you're dealing with is a carefully scripted scenario of "what ifs," while there is no evidence to suggest any of this will happen. Well, I did that five months ago with the Cincinnati Bengals, and they sure aren't making the Super Bowl.
The point is, aside from the switch to a smaller chip, everything you have suggested is mere speculation on your part. Moreover, it ignores key PS3 releases in coming months, it assumes that Sony will fail to support and update the PS3 to alleviate some of the issues people legitimately have with it, and plays into this idea of a performance that just goes to cleanly in Microsoft's favor and against Sony's. Moreover, it also ignores that Japan refuses to buy the 360. Blue Dragon has increased overall sales of the 360 almost 30% for the year, in just the last few weeks. It will take a great deal, however, and far more than a smaller chip and a lower price to entice Japanese consumers. That, of course, is the reality you choose to ignore in favor of playing out your Rube Goldberg equation of how things are going to work. There are really only two competing consoles for the next several years in Japan, and you'd be dead wrong to think that the PS3 won't be one of them. But, of course, we wouldn't want you to be inconsistent, would we?
The price drop didn't mean squat in Japan; if you want a
ing blog post, Kotaku the mighty had an article a year ago about how stores couldn't sell 360 systems for far less than retail. The price drop already happened in Japan, and it meant nothing. You can import a Core 360 with Blue Dragon (so you have the added cost of a new game as well as import markup) for the same price as a brand new Core 360 costs in the US: $299 (
http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/64S-00078.html)
Moreover, that smaller chip, quieter and cooler 360? Please do remind me when that was initially planned to be released again? I could use some prompting. 'ppreciate it.
Look, I welcome a price drop on the 360. I think it would be fantastic. That way, we can begin to discuss how overpriced the Wii is, since it would be $50 more than a core 360.
Sorry to clutter your logic up with more numbers and facts. Maybe you can dig up something at the Drudge Report to hurl back at me? Something about Nancy Pelosi, perhaps?
[quote name='icruise']This is where Sony screwed up the most, in my opinion (aside from the supply issues). If they had come out with only the 20GB of PS3 at $500, I don't think the sticker shock would have been nearly as bad.[/QUOTE]
Well, to be fair, MS started the "two-tier console" trend, and set a precedent where people buying the low-end would find that they eventually *HAD* to upgrade to do everything they wanted with the system. That's not the case with the PS3, but it appears to be quite evident that the "lower price = less than" conclusion holds fast for the PS3, as few people realize they can buy a 20GB PS3, upgrade the HDD for under $100 if they *need* the space (y'don't, yet), and the wifi and memory card readers are overrated, as is the chrome finish. I say this as a 60GB owner, full disclosure.
Guin, you's thinkin' like I'm thinkin'. It's good to see some reason in here, without any of my smarminess.
